Has anyone heard of the 18 in 4 diet ??

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I hate this stupid thread.

I'll do everything in my power to make fun of it to prove a point. If you don't get the point... I feel sorry for you and your dieting attempts.

6 lbs in 4 days.

Big whoop.

Short term thinking.

Yay for you.

Water loss.

Awesome.

I could have someone lose 20 lbs in 2 weeks.

What would that do for them in the long run?

This thread is a display of idiocy at it's finest.... and I'm not speaking to any one person directly.

Saying that Mal and I are here only to bully people and cause drama on the forum proves said idiocy.

The degree of clueless-ness is really sad, to be honest.

I'll tell you what... I'll find one positive here. There's hope!

There's hope for individuals such as myself who hold themselves out as a professional in the field of training and weight loss. That hope lies in the fact that if I ever need to sell out of my values and beliefs in order to make a buck, there will be a shit-ton of bat-shit crazy suckers who I can con out of forking over their cash in exchange for their hopes and desperations.

Good to know.

It's no wonder this industry is in such shambles. The end-user (the consumer) demands very little in terms of fact and competence in so that the companies and the trainers don't feel accountable to their customers.
 
Oh yea...

And the truth is in the pudding.

Go through this entire thread and see how many people who participated in it have less than 5 posts.

For you suckers, I'd bet your logic would assume they're off being happy and skinny, saved by the 18in4 diet.

Ya....

Right.
 
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Steve said:
Oh yea...

And the truth is in the pudding.

Go through this entire thread and see how many people who participated in it have less than 5 posts.

For you suckers, I'd bet your logic would assume they're off being happy and skinny, saved the the 18in4 diet.

Ya....

Right.
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Bully... totally bully.
 
There's hope for individuals such as myself who hold themselves out as a professional in the field of training and weight loss. That hope lies in the fact that if I ever need to sell out of my values and beliefs in order to make a buck, there will be a shit-ton of bat-shit crazy suckers who I can con out of forking over their cash in exchange for their hopes and desperations.
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But alas, we know that's not gonna happen - ethics and values are part of those rippling biceps of yours - you work hard at them and they aren't going anywhere


It's no wonder this industry is in such shambles. The end-user (the consumer) demands very little in terms of fact and competence in so that the companies and the trainers don't feel accountable to their customers.
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I've said elsewhere - desperate people, and I was one of them for entirely too many years, in the absense of good knowledge are willing to beleive a mirage and fork over money for said mirage - but it is just that...a mirage that doesn't last... knowledge lasts... and will do everything in my power and vocabulary to prevent people from making the sam
 
God forbid someone shoots straight at someone.

I mean, I'm sure I'm coming across as irritated. I'm not though. I'm used to this sort of nonsense. It's the same story written on a different paper. They all sell the same snake oil and cause the same problems.

It's really funny too.

The people who finally come here throwing their hands up in desperation looking for honest help....

They all tried these same gimmicky products. They were as the individual above was claiming "I lost 6 lbs in 4 days." Because of this, they claim the diet 'works*.'

And look where it gets these 'experienced' people. Right back here asking for real help. They understand that the fads and short-term approaches don't lead to long-term success.

*I'm damn happy there are a few people who actually understand my definition of 'works'

Any fool knows that any 'diet' works as long as it puts you in a caloric deficit. But what's the big deal... if that were the only criterion required to prove the efficacy of diet, we'd be in a world of hurt.
 
Exactly... and the smart leaders of this forum will steer people from using those gimmicks and snake oils (such as some of the conversation we are currently having). I applaud you for speaking up and sticking to your beliefs without letting people shit on your PROVEN track record.

And I applaud Mal for also keeping a cool head when she knows better... I suppose I just don't have the same patience as some people do :)
 
They were as the individual above was claiming "I lost 6 lbs in 4 days." Because of this, they claim the diet 'works*.'
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and ya know they did it 12 times - every time they used the diet it worked - but - I tend to define works as something that keeps the weight off for good -not a short term thing to fit into a dress..

though there is that dress hanging in my closet... hmmm.. :D
 
maleficent said:
and ya know they did it 12 times - every time they used the diet it worked - but - I tend to define works as something that keeps the weight off for good -not a short term thing to fit into a dress..

though there is that dress hanging in my closet... hmmm.. :D
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You know my responses to "dresses"... bahahahaha.
 
it's probably fit you - your boobs are smaller.. and you have pointed out morethan once that I'm fatter :D it's pretty - very classy and elegant black dress :)
 
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it's probably fit you - your boobs are smaller.. and you have pointed out morethan once that I'm fatter :D it's pretty - very classy and elegant black dress :)
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Never pointed that out Miss Thang! You have been doing the finger pointing if anything...

And actually I have a great pair of pumps to go with that thing... so send it my way. :D
 
What a laugh!

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I'm so entertained by how you all get so worked up by all this, it makes me laugh. I love a good argument but you guys just can't stop. Don't give me lectures about sport and long lasting weight loss as I worked as an aerobic instructor for 14 years. Oh yes people in the fitness industry do also do fad diets to loose weight.

Fuck sake I did a 4 day diet to fit comfortably into a new dress and it worked, big deal. I'm happy and that's all that matters! Sorry we can't all be as perfect as you, Mal (the honorded one!) and Steve.

Guess what Steve I think people only stick around for maybe 5 posts because you give them so much abuse and scare them off. You probably have a lot of good advice to give but really there's better ways to promote yourself and give healthy advice.

You guys don't wind me up at all, it's actually extremely entertaining. I'll be sticking around and have you ever thought that all this bullying actually helps the person become more determined to keep the weight off after doing this diet cause it's sure as hell having that effect on me! Yo baby yo!
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Haha, your point of reference for your absurd judgments of how I 'do business' is based on a fad diet thread. One thread of thousands.

That's smart.

And I'm not worked up either.

I'm just chatting, no different than you.

Chatting and laughing.
 
Hahahaha... worked up. Cute. In what way do you think I was bothered by your shit thread?

In the same breath, if you were an aerobic trainer for 14 years... you obviously weren't very good.

OOOH, I was lumped in with Steve and Mal?!?! I am flattered... in no way do I think I am on their level at all. But thanks for the compliment.
 
It was probably your use of the word 'fucking' that got her attention...that and your obvious intelligence ;)
 
Why does it amuse me that both Darthy and I are both flattered to be lumped in the same class as steve when being insulted :) I think that insult kinda backfired :)

Oh yeah and I so don't think i'm perfect - far from it...
 
FunGirl9 said:
Guess what Steve I think people only stick around for maybe 5 posts because you give them so much abuse and scare them off.
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Steve's saying it like it is. It's true that Steve doesn't always come off as the biggest sweetie, but you need to suck it up and realize he has offered us some very valuable information. He's given us the honesty that many people haven't. I've learned a lot from him, and I'm very glad that he's on this forum.

Don't give me lectures about sport and long lasting weight loss as I worked as an aerobic instructor for 14 years.
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Then get off the internet and do your business.
 
Day 3

I'm just starting my 3 day and I'm amazed that if you stick to it ...You can see results.:smash: Although I do not have a lot of weight to lose, it is working (even if it is only for a short term). I started on Monday weighing 133lbs, yesterday I had lost 3 1/2 lbs, this morning I was down another 2 1/2 lbs, which brings me to 127 lbs...Yipee... Woohoo... I had been trying programs that were working so slowly and I feel that this will give me a kick start to getting where I want to be....
 
“Education...has produced a vast population able to read but unable to distinguish what is worth reading, an easy prey to sensations and cheap appeals.”
 
I like that quote - same author
The best job goes to the person who can get it done without passing the buck or coming back with excuses.
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I think you've stolen my quote database :D
 
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