Evolution or ID

What do you believe in?

  • evolution

    Votes: 43 61.4%

  • creation

    Votes: 17 24.3%

  • not sure

    Votes: 10 14.3%
  • Total voters
    70
I can't help it, every time i click new posts i see someone else reply to it...and i can't help but click to see :p

Dont worry..im going to bed in 5 minutes.
 
Its providing me with entertainment. When people dance around debate and redirect without actually replying, I find it humorous.

Im just wondering when the statement, "Well I think my world class professors" is gonna come up.
 
Derwyddon said:
For anyone who doesn't know, Richard Dawkins (the guy matt keeps toting as a genius and his love master) thinks that religion is the basis of all wrong doing in the world and people who believe in god and religion are immoral and unintellegent.
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Very not true. Maybe you should read some of his books or videos and gain a better understanding. As sam harris put it it is the unessaary part of whats wrong, with almost half the people of america believing god will come back to earth in the next 50years is pretty freightining, considering armageddon or a world gone nuts is a precursor.

You put it excellent phate, a disease of the mind.
 
I guess your entitled to your opinion. Dawkins is actually retiring from the public understanding of science, interesting to see who gets in next.
 
Thats the problem with "faith" it harbours a sanctionary for fundementalist to flourish. "because i have faith you have to just accept and respect it"

People like this make me sick.
 
LeiYunFat said:
Successful troll is successful!
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He is a mighty lolrus. I dig it. When evo said something about him having an extensive vocabulary... Oh, man. The hilarity almost consumed me. Good thing it didn't, though, because I'm high in saturated fat and that's bad for you rite.

I mean, he makes it clear that he doesn't even understand half the words he's using or - and I'm not sure which is better - misuses them intentionally. The lulz are strong in this one.
 
Phate89 said:
Religion is a leap of faith.
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Slight disagree here. Religion is a leap of BLIND faith. The difference being if I turn this tap on I have faith that water will come out, the reason is there is sound scientific basis as to why this water would come out.

Evolution and Creationism are completely mutually exclusive. If you have your own views ie God created man and he has evolved, well thats not Creationism by definition.

At the end of the day, if the 'pearly gates' do exist, all you've got to say to whatever or whomever is there, well you've equipped me with the rational to decide whether you existed or not so its actually your fault:)
 
Well said,

although there will be no gates, just a transition to nothingness like you were for an infinite time before you were born ;)
 
matt182 said:
Well said,

although there will be no gates, just a transition to nothingness like you were for an infinite time before you were born ;)
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Nice to see that you have some ' beliefs' as well Matt - in this case, a belief that no can prove or disprove.;)
 
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ciarzy_boy said:
Slight disagree here. Religion is a leap of BLIND faith. The difference being if I turn this tap on I have faith that water will come out, the reason is there is sound scientific basis as to why this water would come out.
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I would say that it isn't so much ' faith ' you rely on when it comes to your water at home - but rather, a ' reasonable and rational ' expectation of a high probability that water will come out. And, it's based on a prior history of that event occurring as well as other various other facts and supporting evidence etc....or as you said " there is sound scientific basis as to why this water would come out ". So, you're right, the expectation that water will come out is based - primarily - on logic, science and rationality. It has less nothing to do with ' faith ' and more to do with reasonable and rational expectations IMO.

Again, a belief in GOD is valid, not based on logic and rationality or based on any " sound scientific basis " - but rather, religious faith.
 
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Wrangell said:
I would say that it isn't so much ' faith ' you rely on when it comes to your water at home - but rather, a ' reasonable and rational ' expectation of a high probability that water will come out. And, it's based on a prior history of that event occurring as well as other various other facts and supporting evidence etc....or as you said " there is sound scientific basis as to why this water would come out ". So, you're right, the expectation that water will come out is based - primarily - on logic, science and rationality. It has less nothing to do with ' faith ' and more to do with reasonable and rational expectations IMO.

Again, a belief in GOD is valid, not based on logic and rationality or based on any " sound scientific basis " - but rather, religious faith.
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Good point. I agree that a belief in god in valid, whichever god you may believe in, but does your belief completely depend on circumstance because if it does it doesnt really have much merit IMO. I was born in Ireland, so by default I was baptised a Christian, I had no input into it(if I did I probably would have went Hindu, I mean tell a 5 year old child about an elephant with a load of arms, I know who he's going to believe in:))

Honestly I'm a sceptic about most things, an engineer by profession, so I feel a need for scientific reasoning for belief...of which religion doesnt really rely on
 
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theGOOCH said:
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Awesome :yelrotflmao:
 
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