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You went to the DR. about your Lat, correct? Did you have an scans done or possibly x-rays of the back? What did he/she say about your back situation other than laying off 6 to 8 weeks.

Was there any other problem noted when he/she saw you?

Laying off 6 to 8 weeks is a pretty strong reccomendation from the DR., and if its in reference to ONLY your lat, I would think, then, that it is more than likely the connective tissue and surrounding support structure of the back that works WITH the lat that has problems.

If this is the case, if you think about it PB, your back gets involved in just about all weight lifting movements in training, either directly or indirectly. And, if the DR is just speaking of your back and there are no other problems discussed, then there appears to be a good reason he/she is recommending you lay off. Your age (your still growing over all at 16) and the condition of the injury (and overall placement of the injury) is more than likely the reason for the rest period--unless there is something else not known.

Other than getting a second opinion, it is difficult to go against a professional DR's opinion. There MUST be a good sound medical reason for advising you to lay off, unless the DR is over estimating or underestimating his viewpoint on the injury.

Get a second opinion, if your parents allow.

Meanwhile, I do not advise you to do squats (think on how the entire body structure gets involved in the squat, PB). I would advise not to do them.

Can you be more specific on what the DR told you? What type of injury did he/she say you had? Where at? Localized where? PLease give more information.

It would be a dis-service to you to advise you to go against a DR opinion and not layoff the time period he/she advised. I recommend doing so, and getting a second opinion, unless you provide other information to the contrary.

Im off to do some things today for my much-better-half, and will be gone most of the day (im on vacation)

I will check back later


Meanwhile, you HANG IN THERE! Keep the head up! THis will be only a brief period in the totality of your life; this wont even be a blip on the radar screen when its all said and done. You must NOT mess with your body at anytime, especially when growing and maturing at 16.

PB:

In life, one must lift his eyes from the troubles and look to where he is going because if he keeps his eyes on the pain, there is a high possibility that he will quit." - Author Unknown YOU MUST KEEP FOCUS, open your eyes and soak in its complexities of indirect but potentially self induced wisdom waiting to be received by an open mind--Chillen
 
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July 3rd, 2007--Thoughts for the day

You, yes--YOU must be in control at all times: The chains of habit are generally too small to be felt until they are too strong to be broken:

"Nothing tastes as good as being in control feels."

Plato:
The first and the best victory is to conquer self

You may delay, but time will not--author unknown

(Time will always move forward despite any event, circumstances and/or troubles; it is persistant regardless of age, skin color, sex, and/or any belief; by peering into time, it can be the teacher of the cogntive observer--Chillen)

Control yourself, it is this very thing that will make or break your goals you pursue:
Ralph Marston
Your goals, minus your doubts, equal your reality.
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A Comment on Procrastination (a control issue)

Procrastination can only exist where action does not take place.

Think about that for a moment. Any time we can stop being a victim and take control, we should. If we view procrastination as something real or out of our control, then we give it power that it does not have.

Procrastination does not exist by itself. It only exists if we are not taking action. It's like an empty chair. The chair is only empty when someone is not sitting in it. You have the power to sit in the chair!

We only give procrastination power (in other words, make it real), when we fail to act. Take action now!

Marvin Phillips:
The difference between try and triumph is just a little umph! (FF doesnt lack this, LOL)

Vincent Lombardi:
The good Lord gave you a body that can stand most anything. It's your mind you have to convince.

We must accept finite disappointment, but we must never lose infinite hope. (PB pay attention, my friend!)

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Persons whom are successful in diet and training, have learned to control themselves effectively. If you dont have this, you are only left with uncontrol. And, your results will mirror this uncontrol---Chillen

Rock on! Stay in control at all times! Dont let yourself down! Lift yourself UP and be proud!

“If you make friends with yourself you will never be alone on your journey"

Know how to carry your pain on your journey!

“People are afraid of themselves, of their own reality; their feelings most of all. People talk about how great love is, but that's bull****. Love hurts. Feelings are disturbing. People are taught that pain is evil and dangerous. How can they deal with love if they're afraid to feel? Pain is meant to wake us up. People try to hide their pain. But they're wrong. Pain is something to carry, like a radio. You feel your strength in the experience of pain. It's all in how you carry it. That's what matters. Pain is a feeling. Your feelings are a part of you. Your own reality. If you feel ashamed of them, and hide them, you're letting society destroy your reality. You should stand up for your right to feel your pain.”--Max

Chillen
 
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Ants have the POWER!

Take a look at this pic, after you quit laughing, there is a lesson here;




This ant is carrying probably 3 to 4 times its physical weight and is still moving forward.

No matter the weight of your troubles and the persistance of time, you have it in you to carry the burden and move forward and make the decision of the progressive resistance of time---Chillen

I have my cat Chillen Out when I chill on the cycle:
 
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July 3, 2007--Continued

The carrot and the stick---------may never be the same.


Getting Motivated to Diet and Exercise
By David Junno Psy.D.

Not having motivation is the most common response I get when I ask people what gets in the way of starting a diet or an exercise routine. This raises the question- what is motivation and how to do we get motivated? Motivation is actually a fairly complex process. This is the first in a series of articles on motivation.

The Carrot and the Stick

The two major factors influencing motivation can be boiled down to the carrot and the stick. The carrot is what we want, what we are going after. The stick is what we want to avoid. The stick is a powerful motivator. Fears about our health, bad feelings about our weight, all make us want to do something. Often times it is fear that gets us started. The problem is that fear alone cannot sustain our efforts. To sustain our efforts we need carrots. We need rewards. We do more of the things we get rewarded for. This is one of the fundamental findings of behavioral psychology.

But it gets complex when it comes to our making self-change. There has to be a balance of carrots and sticks for us to start and stick to something. If we are not seeing much bad in what we are doing we are not likely to change it. So one of the first things we need to do is open our eyes to the consequences of doing nothing.

The Sticks

The following questions can help us look at the consequences:
What are the costs of not making changes to my diet, or physical activity level to my health?
What are the costs to how I feel about myself?
If I stay the same what will my life look like in the next five years?
The Carrots

Next we have to look at the carrots. Let’s face it, few of us are willing to face deprivation and physical discomfort unless there are some good reasons. What are we going to get out of dieting and exercising? For example let’s look at some of the things we might get out of losing weight:


More energy.
Better sleep.
Decreased risk for a variety of medical conditions including: high blood pressure, diabetes, heart disease, etc.
Decreased dependence on medications, even if we have a medical problem- this can be a life long savings.
Fitting better in our clothes.
Increase in self-esteem.
Feeling more responsible.
Increasing our attractiveness to others, both because of our appearance, but more importantly because we are feeling better about ourselves.
There are many other reasons, and each of us may have reasons unique to us. The bottom line is we need to be aware of what we are trying to avoid and what we are hoping to get.

Action Step

Write your own list of carrots and sticks. If you are having trouble coming up with reasons to change chances are you not going to. To be on the safe side get some opinions from others on the potential risks of not making health related changes. Talk to your doctor, read up on the potential risks associated to a poor diet or lack of exercise.

If you are having trouble coming up with the rewards of making these changes ask other people. Get their ideas about potential rewards. If you know someone who’s made health related changes talk to them. Find out what they’ve gotten out of it.

Keep you list with you and add items as they come to you. Developing your personal list of carrots and sticks will be very important to starting to increase your motivation to diet and exercise.
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If you exile motivation, you put youself in exile--Chillen
 
July 3, 2007--Continued 3

“Finding Comfort in a Bite of Cookie”
© 2005 Sandra Ahten


It feels like the world is spinning out of control. War, hurricane, a stampede, our jails filled, my heart sinking. I want comfort. I want a chocolate chip cookie. I wish I could give the world a big ol’ batch of chocolate chip cookies and make everything better. But cookies aren’t a solution; or are they?

Just as some people have sharp eyesight or a dull sense of smell, taste sensation is also on a continuum. Perhaps that explains why some people are not that interested in food. Let me assure you that I am not one of them. I eat because I love food. I also eat to procrastinate, to celebrate, to drown my sorrows, and to calm my nerves. I eat to socialize. Sometimes I eat because I’m tired, and often I eat for comfort. It’s easy to see why I gained weight, isn’t it?

Today I wanted the world to stop spinning out of control. I couldn’t make that happen and so I just had a cookie. Not a little wimpy cookie either, but a big soft decadent white chocolate chip macadamia nut cookie. Did it take the weight of the world off of my shoulders? Frankly, yes! I did feel some comfort from its sweet goodness. I knew I was indulging. Transported, I closed my eyes and I savored every minute of it. I was determined to extract every bit of comfort that I could from my favorite comfort food.

There was a time when I wouldn’t have been able get any comfort from a chocolate chip cookie. Why? Guilt. Guilt because I never had just one or two. Guilt because they were an indulgence, on top of other indulgences, on top of other indulgences, and the result was an increasingly unhealthy weight.

How did I make peace with chocolate chip cookies? It has been a journey that is, of course, about more than chocolate chip cookies. It is about growing up and, ironically, although I may use cookies to escape now and again, it is about living in reality.

My reality is that cookies are a red-light food. No cookie in my home lasts more than 24 hours. A chocolate chip cookie can beckon me out of sound sleep at 2am. So, simply, I no longer have them in my home. When I want a cookie I go out, I buy one, I eat it, it’s gone.

My reality is that I had to learn how many calories I could eat to maintain weight and how many to lose, and how many calories a cookie contained. I had to train myself to become a conscious eater.

My reality was that I had to learn to be patient with myself and not abandon all the good habits that I was trying to establish, just because I had a trying day, week, or even a difficult month.

My reality is that I had to learn alternative methods of comfort, and even other methods of procrastination, and of drowning my sorrows.

I had to live in the grown-up reality that cookie binges would not stop unless I took measures to stop them. Only with these discoveries and practices in place could I get rid of the guilt and make peace with chocolate chip cookies - and, hence, peace with myself. With my own peace of mind intact and feeling a bit of comfort instead of despair, I am able then to show up for duty to do my own small part to stop the spinning out of control world. I can collect donations, call my representative, or write a prisoner. I can do my part. So I guess the bottom line is that, yes, cookies can be a solution. Got milk?
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ROCK ON, Everyone..........Hope your day went well, and all of your personal goals met or exceeded today! You have the control, you have it in you; you just have to believe in yourself!

Chillen
 
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July 3, 2007: Continued 4

A Creed to Live By
(one the most classic motivational poems)

Don't undermine your worth by comparing
yourself with others,

It is because we are different that each
of us is special.

Don't set your goals by what other people
deem important,

Only you know what is best for you.
Don't take for granted the things closest
to your heart

Cling to that as you would your life, for without
them life is meaningless.

Don't let your life slip through your fingers by living
in the past or the future.

By living your life one day at a time, you live all the
days of your life.

Don't give up when you still have something to give
Nothing is really over … until the moment
you stop trying.

Don't be afraid to admit that you are less
than perfect,

It is the fragile thread that binds us to each other.
Don't be afraid to encounter risks,

It is by taking chances that we learn how to be brave.
Don't shut love out of your life by saying it's
impossible to find.

The quickest way to receive love is to give love.
The fastest way to lose love is to hold on too tightly,
And the best way to keep love is to give it wings.
Don't dismiss your Dreams. To be without
dreams is to be without hope.

To be without hope is to be without purpose.
Don't run through life so fast that you forget
where you've been,

But also know where you're going.
Life is not a race, but a journey to be savored
every step of the way.
Author Unknown
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Within all of you there is a creed of some sort that you follow. Through this creed, it directs your path, and its the same with diet and training, folks


Chillen
 
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July 3, 2007 continued 5

24 Interludes of Life

1. Don't go for looks, they can deceive. Don't go for wealth even that fades away. Go for someone who makes you smile.
2. There are moments in life when you really miss someone that you want to pick them up from your dreams and hug them. Hope you dream of that someone.
3. Dream what you want to dream, go where you want to go, be what you want to be, because you have only one life and one chance to do all the things you want in life.
4. May you have...Enough happiness to make you sweet
Enough trials to make you strong
Enough sorrow to keep you human
Enough hope to make you happy
And enough money to keep you comfortable.
5. When one door of happiness closes, another opens. But we often took so long at the closed door, that we don't see the one which has been opened for us.
6. The best kind of friend is the one you could sit on a porch, swing with, never saying a word and then walk away feeling like that was the best conversation you've had.
7. It's true that we don't know what we've got until we lose it, but it's also true that we don't know what we've been missing until it arrives.
8. Always put yourself in other's shoes. If you feel that it hurts you, it probably does hurt the person too.
9. A careless word may kindle a strife;
A cruel word may wreck a life
A timely word may level stress
A lovely word may heal and bless.
10. The beginning of love is to let those we love be perfectly themselves and not to twist them with our own image, otherwise we love only the reflection of ourselves we find in them.
11. The happiest people don't necessarily have the best of everything, they just make the most of everything that comes along the way.
12. Maybe God wants us to meet a few wrong people before meeting the right one so that when we finally meet the right person, we should know how to be grateful for that gift.
13. It takes a minute to have a crush on someone, an hour to like someone and a day to love someone, but it takes a lifetime to forget someone.
14. Happiness lies for those who cry, those who hurt, those who have searched and those who have tried. For only they can appreciate the importance of people who have touched their lives.
15. Love is when you take away the feeling, the passion, the romance and find out you still care for that person.
16. A sad thing about life is that when you meet someone who means a lot to you only to find out in the end that it was never bound to be and you just have to let go.
17. Love starts with a smile, develops with a kiss and ends with a tear.
18. Love comes to those who still hope even though they've been disappointed, to those who still believe even though they've been betrayed, need to love those who still love, even though they've been hurt before.
19. It hurts to love someone, and not to be loved in return but what is most painful is to love someone and never finds the courage to let the person know how you feel.
20. The brightest future will always be based on a forgotten past. You can't go on well in life until you let go of your past failures and heartaches.
21. Never say goodbye when you still want to try;
Never give up when you still feel you can take it;
Never say you don't love that person anymore when you can't let go.
22. Giving someone all your love is never an assurance that they'll love you back. Don't expect love in return, just wait for it to grow in their hearts but if it doesn't, be content it grew in yours.
23. There are things you love to hear but you would never hear it from the person whom you would like to hear it from, but don't be deaf to hear it from the person who says it with his heart.
24. When you were born, you were crying and everyone around you was smiling. Live your life to the fullest so that when you die, you're smiling and everyone
around you is crying.
Author Unknown
 
For FlyingFree's--FREE SPIRIT

For your strength, FlyingFREE:


"To keep our faces toward change and behave like free spirits in the presence of fate is strength undefeatable”

"They can try to chain my spirit, but spirit runs free; Walls can't contain it; Laws can't restrain it and authority has no power over it!”

“The Spirit is the living body seen from within, and the body is the outer manifestation of the living free spirit.”

"'I'd rather fail daring to be great; for a life without risk is a spiritless existence"
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Keep trying FlyingFree, your spirit is relentless and as such your gearing toward successful accumulation of body and soul.
 
omg thank you so much CHILLEN!!! you made me feel stronger! i never let myself start getting down about my back because i honestly kept on remembering this thread and what you said.

but anyway, the doc told me anotehr 6-8 weeks knowing that i already had it for a month. he told me that any weights will likely aggrivate it and slow healing...he said it looked fine optically. he said i tore a muscle i think...i forgot T.T no scans. no x rays.

he said that i overexerted myself and did a weight that was too heavy and that i have to ease into it(i know...). i know it was just bad form. he said that it would take the back a longer time to fully heal so thats why 6-8 weeks :/ he didnt say anything about where it locallized.

he talked to me alot about how i cant just jump into something i cant handle (i didnt i just fudged up my form!) he said that i could swim as long as it isnt aggresive. he didnt want me doing any rough sports like football or anything that aggrivates it.

well thanks for the reccomendation chillen. i guess i wont squat :(
i'm going to do stepups though. with a weighted vest. im pretty sure that wont aggrivate it! what do you think!?

thanks again for the encouragement!!! i could hug you!
 
Good Morning Everyone! July 4th, 2007

Todays Thought for the day coming later in the day!

How is everyone this morning!

Head strong and full of willpower and progressive resistive to any negative thoughts on diet---Correct?--------GOOD! ROCK THE HELL ON!
 
July 4th, 2007: Thoughts for the day

We have mental battles every day. YOU determine which one dominates on a consistant basis each day and KNOW whether it is positive or negative in the goal you seek.

"Let your inner vision cultivate your ultimate exterior expression" —Chillen

"The strongest inner feeling that prevails will result in the exterior expression" --Chillen


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Our experiences are composed of illusions that wisdom acquired (someone else)

I let this statement from someone else speak for itself:

"The way to develop self-confidence is to do the very thing you do not want to and face your fear; get a record of successful experiences behind you. Destiny is not a matter of chance, it is a matter of choice; it is not a thing to be waited for, it is a thing to be achieved."
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Your dedication will not be a sacrifice.
It will be an exhilarating experience
because it is an intense
effort applied toward a meaningful end.
Dr Thomas Dooley
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An EXCELLENT statement:

If you wish success, make
perseverance your bosom friend,
experience your wise counselor,
caution your elder brother
and hope your guardian genius.
Joseph Addison
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Experience, what can this teach us?

Experience is not what happens to a man. It is what a man does with what happens to him. ~Aldous Leonard Huxley, Texts and Pretexts, 1932

“To regret one's own experiences is to arrest one's own development. To deny one's own experiences is to put a lie into the lips of one's life. It is no less than a denial of the soul.”

“One of the greatest moments in anybody's developing experience is when he no longer tries to hide from himself but determines to get acquainted with himself as he really is”

“Perhaps the single most important element in mastering the techniques and tactics of yourself is experience. But once you have the fundamentals, acquiring the experience is a matter of time”

"To make the right choices in life, you have to get in touch with your soul. To do this, you need to experience solitude, which most people are afraid of, because in the silence you hear the truth and know the solutions."
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"By three methods we may learn wisdom: First, by reflection, which is noblest; Second, by imitation, which is easiest; and third by experience, which is the bitterest."
Confucius
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"All our thoughts and concepts are called up by sense-experiences and have a meaning only in reference to these sense-experiences. On the other hand, however, they are products of the spontaneous activity of our minds; they are thus in no wise logical consequences of the contents of these sense-experiences. If, therefore, we wish to grasp the essence of a complex of abstract notions we must for the one part investigate the mutual relationships between the concepts and the assertions made about them; for the other, we must investigate how they are related to the experiences."
Albert Einstein

"All truly wise thoughts have been thoughts already thousands of times; but to make them truly ours, we must think them over again honestly, till they take root in our personal experience."
Johann Wolfgang von Goethe
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Your cultivation and manifestation of thought accumulated within your reasoning will determine your outcome----Chillen

Think these over. These can be essential keys to your success in diet and training.................ROCK ON! I hope everyone had a great day, and no bad experiences.

Hope all goals were met or exceeded. I wish you all the best as always-everyday.
 
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July 4, 2007--2

What can the ant teach us (2):

The tiny ant teaches us many lessons:

1) It is self-motivated and highly industrialized. The ant doesn't need another to make sure it gets its work done.

2) It collects its food in the proper seasons; it is prudent.

3) It is fond of its young, and takes care of them.

4) It has foresight for others and shows kindness.

5) It works quietly without show and until the work is done. In this, it teaches us perseverance.

6) It works in cooperation and organization with others. In union there is indeed strength.

7) It keeps its home meticulously clean.

8) It knows its job and does it.

9) The ant has initiative, that wonderful virtue of resourcefulness that knows the how and when.
 
Thank you, Brandi.

I am very pleased that it is inspirational to you and hope it assists you helping yourself in the goals you seek. I just firmly believe that once the fundelmental understanding of diet and training are understood (and still pursing its education on it), it is a battle of the "internal mental game" within the self that determines the outcome.

This thread hits a different area of diet and training that doesnt get much press or recognition as the logistics of diet and the differing types of training does. Its a shame, because in the end of things (when things are considered equal, and playing the average percentages), its the mental battles that normally doom the person from obtaining there goals--when they were achieveable in the first place.

Hope you enjoyed your day.
 
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Chillen said:
Thank you, Brandi.

This thread hits a different area of diet and training that doesnt get much press or recognition as the logistics of diet and the differing types of training does. Its a shame, because in the end of things (when things are considered equal, and playing the average percentages), its the mental battles that normally doom the person from obtaining there goals--when they were achieveable in the first place.

Hope you enjoyed your day.
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Yes it does, and if it weren't here, my experience would not be as rich as it has been!

Flyinfree
 
I promised a while back to show the arm, the tricep any hoot (its pitiful).

Deficit dieting, though of course growth restrictive, has been good to me at the higher deficit ranges, I wish I knew I had the genetics in my prime (take a lesson here young ones).

Arm size is really relative to several bodily factors such as upper body size and overall body weight coupled with appropriate stimulous and with a correct diet surplus. I have not scene a 140lb person with 19" guns, lol.

In this pic, everything is relaxed, except the back of the right arm. Just a different pic showing the tri trying to take shape under duress from deficit dieting (which has been changed to zigzag, the last couple of weeks).

In the attempt to hit different muscle fibers and to enhance muscle endurance, I have implemented what I call FreeForm Training into my weight training. I can do 82 pushups (full, chest touch to full extension) without rest (not bad for an old man, LOL).

You get to see my ugly mug for the first time. Whats really funny is when the beads of sweat roll off of my skin head, and when wet, it can reflect images, lol. Just ask my wife.......
 
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82 pushups eh?? I'll take that challenge. Let me try that tonight!! I have a fitness eval thingy at the gym and then I will try the pushups. 82 is alot!! chest touch to all the way up!!! nice!


are you up for a try here Doc?

and hey, my firend Chillen,,, it's not about who can do more, it's about what we do to our bodies trying!!

Good to see your face, you look just like I would have though, had I of given it any thought.
 
Todays, Thoughts for the day forth coming (but, first I have to get some body weight belts, for my newly incorporated training technique called FreeForm blended into my weight training)

Todays, MAIN THOUGHT:

"Today's preparation determines tomorrow's achievement."
~ Unknown

More to follow, ROCK ON!
 
flyinfree said:
82 pushups eh?? I'll take that challenge. Let me try that tonight!! I have a fitness eval thingy at the gym and then I will try the pushups. 82 is alot!! chest touch to all the way up!!! nice!


are you up for a try here Doc?

and hey, my firend Chillen,,, it's not about who can do more, it's about what we do to our bodies trying!!

Good to see your face, you look just like I would have though, had I of given it any thought.
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I'lll watch on this one for a bit-- trying to get myself in an established routine with lifting...and still working on finding a trainer I feel I can trust that appears compentent. Seems the trainers that are available like to call themselves trainers, but can't grasp the idea of a FBW or that I've had surgery and the ones that seem they *would* know how to work with me aren't available.

Anyway, it'll work out in the end-- just gotta keep at it and not screw myself up in the interim.

I'll be watchin' though...always watchin'.... :p
 
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