The ChillOut Log
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nah chillen, im not gay, no matter what comments have been going round on my threads...
anyway, my pics are here, and i was wondering, given im 5'8" and 125lbs ish whether u could have a crack @ my body fat % and also pluck out a figure for where my weight and such ought to be before i do my 1st cut. i know it will be ages, like probably just under a year or such, but it always helps me to have targets to aim 4...
Gratias Ago Tibi
спасибо
bedanken
merci
תודה
grazie
gracias
cant say it in any other languages...
i hope u get the message...
Josh
anyway, my pics are here, and i was wondering, given im 5'8" and 125lbs ish whether u could have a crack @ my body fat % and also pluck out a figure for where my weight and such ought to be before i do my 1st cut. i know it will be ages, like probably just under a year or such, but it always helps me to have targets to aim 4...
Gratias Ago Tibi
спасибо
bedanken
merci
תודה
grazie
gracias
cant say it in any other languages...
i hope u get the message...
Josh
Let me go back and re-examine your thread. On the surface, TLOG, being Male, 5' 8", and 125lbs, is IMO undeweight.
TLOG, it took me over a year to accomplish my initial goals, because I had put my then current starting position in proper perspective and allowed patience and a realistic time frame to guide me.
I had given short and long term goals-------segments of time, with absolute focus to achieve them; however, the time frame was still open ended, because this was life style change with the purpose that once the goal was achieved I would have something in place to maintain it.
Within the COL, I have personally written about this many times.
I wasnt going to put all that work in, just to have it erased in a few short months of going back to bad habits, rather I had a plan of action to maintain what I had earned.
When I started I was about 190ish pounds (5' 7"), I now weigh 161, and have more muscle on me and weigh about 30 pounds less, not to mention 10X stronger. I am not a skinny 160 pounder I can assure you
When I started, I didnt know didly squat about dieting and fitness. Within my quest, I also adding in educating myself on diet and fitness (to assist me to become my own personal trainer) and this was absolutely KEY.
If an old man can do it and learn it--YOU CAN TOO.
I will look at your thread (again) and get back to you young man.
By the way: You are welcome
Best wishes,
Chillen
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I look forward to your pics, Marko!
I have been waiting for your response, my friend.
I hope you didnt take my post in the wrong manner, I mean well.
I was just giving you a perspective to think about, and one I believe is SMART. We just have to make the BEST choice among the ones available when life throws us curve balls using our educated base in diet and fitness to guide us.
Best wishes to you, my friend
Chillen
June 4th, 2008: Thoughts for the Day (1)
by John M Berardi
Today's message is an important one for anyone who's ever gone to see a doctor in their lives. Uh, that's right, this means you.
A Little Background
We recently brought on 3 new members of the Precision Nutrition team. Interestingly, one of the 3 has epilepsy.
Having no experience with epilepsy, but having a deep curiousity, I've asked this new team member a ton of questions. Further, I've done a lot of independent study.
I wanted to know what epilepsy is, how it impacts people's lives, and which treatments are available for those living with epilepsy.
Interestingly, during my research, I discovered that there's actually a dietary treatment for epilepsy!
Indeed, the research is now showing that, in adults, a ketogenic (very low carb diet) can reduce the incidence of seizures in epileptics by about 80-90%. This is huge...it means that if you normally had 10 seizures per day, you'd have just 1 or 2.
If you know anyone living with epilepsy, ask them what that would mean to
their lives.
They Kept This From You?
Of course, I assumed our new team member was either following this approach or had tried it in the past.
When I inquired, the answer shocked me. Not only hadn't she tried a ketogenic diet, her doctors had never even mentioned the diet to her!
Instead, they decided to "manage" her epilepsy with 1 highly invasive brain surgery and a never-ending stream of prescription meds.
Highly pissed, we called up her doc and did a little 3-way conference call.
"Thanks, Dr. Berardi for your concern. However, the ketogenic diet is much too difficult for adults to follow. So rather than wasting time with this, I recommend another surgery."
Highly pissed barely describes my response.
This doc was actually recommending more meds AND another surgery - yet wouldn't even consider giving her a month or two to try the dietary approach!
Ketogenic Diets and The Physique Community
At this point, let's take a quick step back so we can be clear on what this wild, wacky, impossible-to-follow diet consists of.
A ketogenic diet is basically a diet that's high in lean proteins and healthy fats while also being fairly low in carbs. Uh, that's it.
As anyone that's been involved in the physique community intimately knows, whether they want to step on the fitness and/or figure stage or whether they simply want to look great on the beach, this is the exact diet that most folks use when trying to get lean.
So, when I heard the doc dismiss this diet as "impossible for adults to follow" I almost lost my mind.
Sure, it certainly takes some effort to learn how to follow a ketogenic diet. Especially if it's much different from your "normal" intake. But IMPOSSIBLE? I think not.
Docs and Diet
After I cooled off and gave this situation some rational thought, I realized that this isn't at all unusual. In fact, it's just the way that the medical system works.
Got type 2 diabetes? Take these pills.
Got heart disease? Here's a bypass surgery and 5 bottles of pills.
Got epilepsy? Here's a brain surgey and 3 more bottles of pills.
Nowadays, most docs don't even mention the fact that all 3 of these disorders/diseases are treatable with diet. It's just not on the menu of options.
Isn't that really scary? Nowadays, adults aren't even given the info to make a choice. And if they do ask, they're even discouraged from discussing their options.
Unless, of course, the options are surgery and pills.
But Why Bother
You know what, though. What else should we expect. After all, what if the docs actually did start recommending dietary treatments? Without some guidance and support, people would be doomed to failure anyway.
Can you imagine having epilepsy and having your doc say the following:
"You know, a ketogenic would help you reduce your seizures significantly. Just stop eating carbs and you're all set."
Uh...thanks doc...
Can I get those pills instead?
Figure It Out Yourself?
Here's another apt analogy. Imagine that we've just hired you on as a member of the PN Customer Service Team. And when you show up for work the first day, there's a note on your desk.
"Welcome to the team...there's a phone on your desk and a computer, too. Customers will call and email with questions. Make sure they all get answered."
Imagine that's the extent of your job training. No instruction on how to answer the phones, no instruction on how to access your email account, no instruction on how to respond to the questions themselves, no nothing.
How could you possibly succeed in that environment? Hint: you couldn't. Then, isn't the same true when it comes to fitness and nutrition?
Support Is The Key
Truthfully, the only way to succeed in something new is with support.
In the case of our new staff member living with epilepsy, a good doc would not only tell her all about her dietary options, he'd also provide support such as a referral to a top-notch nutrition coach.
After all, following a ketogenic diet (or any other disease related dietary treatment plan), requires more than a list of what to eat and what not to eat. It almost requires an occupational therapy approach.
In an ideal world, someone would come into your home, do an inventory of what must change to accommodate your new plan,and then help you make this plan part of your life.
They'd teach you the dos and don'ts.
They'd teach you how to grocery shop.
They'd help you with the appliances and utensils.
They show you how to eat out at restaurants.
They'd discuss what to do at dinner parties.
And they'd show you how to make the food taste so good that your family will also want to eat this way.
It's like on-the-job training. It isn't a "bonus," it's a necessity.
Is it any wonder that 95% of the folks who lose weight through diet and exercise interventions, gain all the weight back and then some.
The road to changing our lifestyle patterns is long, hard, and perilous. Alone, most people are destined to fail. With support, there's actually a chance to succeed.
Best regards to ALL!
Chillen
The Hopeless Doctor
by John M Berardi
Today's message is an important one for anyone who's ever gone to see a doctor in their lives. Uh, that's right, this means you.
A Little Background
We recently brought on 3 new members of the Precision Nutrition team. Interestingly, one of the 3 has epilepsy.
Having no experience with epilepsy, but having a deep curiousity, I've asked this new team member a ton of questions. Further, I've done a lot of independent study.
I wanted to know what epilepsy is, how it impacts people's lives, and which treatments are available for those living with epilepsy.
Interestingly, during my research, I discovered that there's actually a dietary treatment for epilepsy!
Indeed, the research is now showing that, in adults, a ketogenic (very low carb diet) can reduce the incidence of seizures in epileptics by about 80-90%. This is huge...it means that if you normally had 10 seizures per day, you'd have just 1 or 2.
If you know anyone living with epilepsy, ask them what that would mean to
their lives.
They Kept This From You?
Of course, I assumed our new team member was either following this approach or had tried it in the past.
When I inquired, the answer shocked me. Not only hadn't she tried a ketogenic diet, her doctors had never even mentioned the diet to her!
Instead, they decided to "manage" her epilepsy with 1 highly invasive brain surgery and a never-ending stream of prescription meds.
Highly pissed, we called up her doc and did a little 3-way conference call.
"Thanks, Dr. Berardi for your concern. However, the ketogenic diet is much too difficult for adults to follow. So rather than wasting time with this, I recommend another surgery."
Highly pissed barely describes my response.
This doc was actually recommending more meds AND another surgery - yet wouldn't even consider giving her a month or two to try the dietary approach!
Ketogenic Diets and The Physique Community
At this point, let's take a quick step back so we can be clear on what this wild, wacky, impossible-to-follow diet consists of.
A ketogenic diet is basically a diet that's high in lean proteins and healthy fats while also being fairly low in carbs. Uh, that's it.
As anyone that's been involved in the physique community intimately knows, whether they want to step on the fitness and/or figure stage or whether they simply want to look great on the beach, this is the exact diet that most folks use when trying to get lean.
So, when I heard the doc dismiss this diet as "impossible for adults to follow" I almost lost my mind.
Sure, it certainly takes some effort to learn how to follow a ketogenic diet. Especially if it's much different from your "normal" intake. But IMPOSSIBLE? I think not.
Docs and Diet
After I cooled off and gave this situation some rational thought, I realized that this isn't at all unusual. In fact, it's just the way that the medical system works.
Got type 2 diabetes? Take these pills.
Got heart disease? Here's a bypass surgery and 5 bottles of pills.
Got epilepsy? Here's a brain surgey and 3 more bottles of pills.
Nowadays, most docs don't even mention the fact that all 3 of these disorders/diseases are treatable with diet. It's just not on the menu of options.
Isn't that really scary? Nowadays, adults aren't even given the info to make a choice. And if they do ask, they're even discouraged from discussing their options.
Unless, of course, the options are surgery and pills.
But Why Bother
You know what, though. What else should we expect. After all, what if the docs actually did start recommending dietary treatments? Without some guidance and support, people would be doomed to failure anyway.
Can you imagine having epilepsy and having your doc say the following:
"You know, a ketogenic would help you reduce your seizures significantly. Just stop eating carbs and you're all set."
Uh...thanks doc...
Can I get those pills instead?
Figure It Out Yourself?
Here's another apt analogy. Imagine that we've just hired you on as a member of the PN Customer Service Team. And when you show up for work the first day, there's a note on your desk.
"Welcome to the team...there's a phone on your desk and a computer, too. Customers will call and email with questions. Make sure they all get answered."
Imagine that's the extent of your job training. No instruction on how to answer the phones, no instruction on how to access your email account, no instruction on how to respond to the questions themselves, no nothing.
How could you possibly succeed in that environment? Hint: you couldn't. Then, isn't the same true when it comes to fitness and nutrition?
Support Is The Key
Truthfully, the only way to succeed in something new is with support.
In the case of our new staff member living with epilepsy, a good doc would not only tell her all about her dietary options, he'd also provide support such as a referral to a top-notch nutrition coach.
After all, following a ketogenic diet (or any other disease related dietary treatment plan), requires more than a list of what to eat and what not to eat. It almost requires an occupational therapy approach.
In an ideal world, someone would come into your home, do an inventory of what must change to accommodate your new plan,and then help you make this plan part of your life.
They'd teach you the dos and don'ts.
They'd teach you how to grocery shop.
They'd help you with the appliances and utensils.
They show you how to eat out at restaurants.
They'd discuss what to do at dinner parties.
And they'd show you how to make the food taste so good that your family will also want to eat this way.
It's like on-the-job training. It isn't a "bonus," it's a necessity.
Is it any wonder that 95% of the folks who lose weight through diet and exercise interventions, gain all the weight back and then some.
The road to changing our lifestyle patterns is long, hard, and perilous. Alone, most people are destined to fail. With support, there's actually a chance to succeed.
Best regards to ALL!
Chillen
I would never ignore you, Jackie.
Congrats on your driving test!
ROCK ON!
I wont say BLAST OFF......because you may get into a wreck.
And we do not want that.
Chillen
Havnt dropped in here for a week or so , hows it all going chillen. There's noway i can keep up with this journal
Good to see ya, BigTom.
There is some good reads in this log, that could help you.
I want you to meet your goals.
I want you to know how this feels.
Its better than a beer BUZZ any day of the week.
Best wishes,
Chillen
June 06, 2008: Thoughts for the Day (1)
The most difficult part of dieting to lose weight is staying determined. Often we start a diet full of energy at the hope of losing weight but that energy and determination quickly dies down and flat lines.
Staying determined when trying to lose weight on a diet requires 2 things. The right diet plan that will produce results and of course a way of staying determined. Luckily this article will show you an excellent method that I've used to stay focused and determined.
I've developed a method to help train your brain to stay determined and keep you motivated.
It's one of the best "Train Your Brain" methods I've adapted from the motivation guru himself - Tony Robbins.
On a piece of paper, finish off the following sentences.
1. I want to Lose __ lbs (It could be 10 lbs or even 200 lbs)
2. If I fail __________________________ (Be brutally honest with yourself)
Examples
1. I want to Lose 20 lbs.
2. If I fail I will waste another summer feeling fat and ugly.
1. I want to Lose 200 lbs.
2. If I fail I will potentially shorten my life and could die a weight related death.
Put that piece of paper somewhere you will see everyday. Try to put it somewhere you will see for most of the day when you have a bit of time to day dream. I'm a programmer and I work at home so it was stuck at the top of my computer screen. It doesn't have to be some where like this but you get the idea.
I was quite overweight and needed to lose a lot of weight, and the 2nd example is actually what I wrote down and put in front of me everyday. I was brutally honest with myself.
2 things will happen.
Looking at that piece of paper daily will switch your brain into overdrive.
1. Your brain will try and figure out a way to achieve your goal.
2. Your brain will start to associate pain with what you've written down if you fail and it will force you to try your hardest to avoid the pain.
Let me give you an example... Have you been asked to go to the beach but you were embarrassed about your ugly fat?
If you made up an excuse NOT to go to the beach, that's you brain subconsciously trying to avoid the pain of being in a swimsuit and being embarrased!
Now... if you see everyday what will happen if you fail you will increase your drive to avoid the pain because you've made the consequences of failure clear. (Remember you have to be brutally honest with yourself).
To increase your determination further read what you've written down OUTLOUD (in your head if people are around you and you are embarrased) several times - everytime you see that piece of paper.
I hope this helps anyone trying to lose weight but not being able to stay determined at losing weight.
John Blaykes has successfully overcome his struggle with weight loss and is now trying to help every overweight person to succeed with their struggles. To see his story visit Diet Success Story and find out how he can help you lose weight.
(by John Blayke)
(Remember to always read between then lines, and spin-off ideas from the bases presented--Chillen)
Hope your day went well today!
Chillen
One view on Training your Brain
The most difficult part of dieting to lose weight is staying determined. Often we start a diet full of energy at the hope of losing weight but that energy and determination quickly dies down and flat lines.
Staying determined when trying to lose weight on a diet requires 2 things. The right diet plan that will produce results and of course a way of staying determined. Luckily this article will show you an excellent method that I've used to stay focused and determined.
I've developed a method to help train your brain to stay determined and keep you motivated.
It's one of the best "Train Your Brain" methods I've adapted from the motivation guru himself - Tony Robbins.
On a piece of paper, finish off the following sentences.
1. I want to Lose __ lbs (It could be 10 lbs or even 200 lbs)
2. If I fail __________________________ (Be brutally honest with yourself)
Examples
1. I want to Lose 20 lbs.
2. If I fail I will waste another summer feeling fat and ugly.
1. I want to Lose 200 lbs.
2. If I fail I will potentially shorten my life and could die a weight related death.
Put that piece of paper somewhere you will see everyday. Try to put it somewhere you will see for most of the day when you have a bit of time to day dream. I'm a programmer and I work at home so it was stuck at the top of my computer screen. It doesn't have to be some where like this but you get the idea.
I was quite overweight and needed to lose a lot of weight, and the 2nd example is actually what I wrote down and put in front of me everyday. I was brutally honest with myself.
2 things will happen.
Looking at that piece of paper daily will switch your brain into overdrive.
1. Your brain will try and figure out a way to achieve your goal.
2. Your brain will start to associate pain with what you've written down if you fail and it will force you to try your hardest to avoid the pain.
Let me give you an example... Have you been asked to go to the beach but you were embarrassed about your ugly fat?
If you made up an excuse NOT to go to the beach, that's you brain subconsciously trying to avoid the pain of being in a swimsuit and being embarrased!
Now... if you see everyday what will happen if you fail you will increase your drive to avoid the pain because you've made the consequences of failure clear. (Remember you have to be brutally honest with yourself).
To increase your determination further read what you've written down OUTLOUD (in your head if people are around you and you are embarrased) several times - everytime you see that piece of paper.
I hope this helps anyone trying to lose weight but not being able to stay determined at losing weight.
John Blaykes has successfully overcome his struggle with weight loss and is now trying to help every overweight person to succeed with their struggles. To see his story visit Diet Success Story and find out how he can help you lose weight.
(by John Blayke)
(Remember to always read between then lines, and spin-off ideas from the bases presented--Chillen)
Hope your day went well today!
Chillen
Thankyou Chillen again, yeah i would like a bit more help with mastering oneself. How do u track every calorie? a lot of the time i just think **** it, and eat something i shouldnt lol
Jackie xx
I will post more thoughts on how to master yourself in upcoming thoughts for the day, just for you. If you take a look back in the COL, there are many posts about this very thing.
I have already posted how I track my calories and what I use. I will locate this for you to save you some time and add in other information that may assist you.
We will work on trying to solve your own personal science, and get this thing ROCKED-OUT! Once and for all!
ROCK ON!
Chillen
Hey Chillen. Hope things are well with you and the family.
Jackie:
A brand new commitment to PERSONAL EXCELLENCE:
(by Chillen)
1. Courage
To erase the inconsistency of the past, one has to be consistent with the goals of the present. One has to exercise internal courage to experience growth of courage: Visionary Courage.
2. Dedication
There is valuable information inside. Make room for only one tyrant: YOU. Your inner voice: A powerful stimulant with unlimited potential. It will give you the ultimate thrill, sizzle you hot, create self-reliance, and send a internal message to your five senses that you are totally committed: Stimulated Dedication.
3. Persistence
Enthusiastic resistance. Realizing through your own eyes, that the real prize are supplies that are inside; distinguishes the strong from the weak; the twin sister of dedication. Cutting edge of action and results: Persistent Resistance
4. Determination
All-in-one sowing seed of the human-will.
Determination delegates the rules, to deliver the results, while demanding the your personal best and can be designed to sell: Amazing results. Superpower of the human-will
5. Heart
The human survival-Kit: If you fall down get up an infinate and unconditional amount of times that it takes to endure and ensure your unlimited personal potential.
6. Create your Internal Music
Remove the "mental fences" around the "five senses":
No one can see it. But you can feel it.
No one can hear it. But you can listen to it.
No one can touch it. But you can sense it.
No one can smell it. But you can sniff it.
No one can taste it. But you can savor it.
The 6 Takes:
Take action
Take charge
Take control
Take one moment and Take the challenge
and you Take the lead
(Chillen)
True Power is Mastering yourself.
Stand and Deliver Today! And, kiss the past negatives goodbye.
Written by,
Chillen
When you wake up in the morning and throughout the day, you BREATHE:
A brand new commitment to PERSONAL EXCELLENCE:
(by Chillen)
1. Courage
To erase the inconsistency of the past, one has to be consistent with the goals of the present. One has to exercise internal courage to experience growth of courage: Visionary Courage.
2. Dedication
There is valuable information inside. Make room for only one tyrant: YOU. Your inner voice: A powerful stimulant with unlimited potential. It will give you the ultimate thrill, sizzle you hot, create self-reliance, and send a internal message to your five senses that you are totally committed: Stimulated Dedication.
3. Persistence
Enthusiastic resistance. Realizing through your own eyes, that the real prize are supplies that are inside; distinguishes the strong from the weak; the twin sister of dedication. Cutting edge of action and results: Persistent Resistance
4. Determination
All-in-one sowing seed of the human-will.
Determination delegates the rules, to deliver the results, while demanding the your personal best and can be designed to sell: Amazing results. Superpower of the human-will
5. Heart
The human survival-Kit: If you fall down get up an infinate and unconditional amount of times that it takes to endure and ensure your unlimited personal potential.
6. Create your Internal Music
Remove the "mental fences" around the "five senses":
No one can see it. But you can feel it.
No one can hear it. But you can listen to it.
No one can touch it. But you can sense it.
No one can smell it. But you can sniff it.
No one can taste it. But you can savor it.
The 6 Takes:
Take action
Take charge
Take control
Take one moment and Take the challenge
and you Take the lead
(Chillen)
True Power is Mastering yourself.
Stand and Deliver Today! And, kiss the past negatives goodbye.
Written by,
Chillen
Jackie:
What is Precision Tuned? Lets see.
1. Out of nowhere, Jackie, realizes she is the ground breaker and the formula for success, and is fully loaded with infinite potential, because she:
A. Is geared up and knocks her socks off when she trains: Hair-raising Gung Ho syndrome.
B. Has developed "spine tingling inside secrets" to produce "searing hot action packed results", that amazes the professionals.
The shocking truth: Throw away the RULES, Jackie is taking all to SCHOOL's because he has all the physical TOOLS.
C. She knows what's in her soup:
Super-duper Pooper Scooper: (Scoop the Poop, baby!)
Whoop! You are the TROOP to remove all POOP from your personal noodle SOUP!
Therefore, reGROUP and SCOOP all the environmental POOP and jump through motivational HOOLA-HOOPS and throw your fitness into brand new LOOPS!
HEHE, ha, ha, he, :jump1:
OH!
I hope you smiled today, young lady!
ROCK ON!
Written by
Chillen
Jackie is Precision Tuned
What is Precision Tuned? Lets see.
1. Out of nowhere, Jackie, realizes she is the ground breaker and the formula for success, and is fully loaded with infinite potential, because she:
A. Is geared up and knocks her socks off when she trains: Hair-raising Gung Ho syndrome.
B. Has developed "spine tingling inside secrets" to produce "searing hot action packed results", that amazes the professionals.
The shocking truth: Throw away the RULES, Jackie is taking all to SCHOOL's because he has all the physical TOOLS.
C. She knows what's in her soup:
Super-duper Pooper Scooper: (Scoop the Poop, baby!)
Whoop! You are the TROOP to remove all POOP from your personal noodle SOUP!
Therefore, reGROUP and SCOOP all the environmental POOP and jump through motivational HOOLA-HOOPS and throw your fitness into brand new LOOPS!
HEHE, ha, ha, he,
:jump1:OH!
I hope you smiled today, young lady!
ROCK ON!
Written by
Chillen
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