Yeah it is, and yh i agree this forum needs this thread, thankyou.
I think people wanting to change their ways in diet and training to get better, and stronger should read this thread.
Jackie
xx
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Yeah it is, and yh i agree this forum needs this thread, thankyou.
I think people wanting to change their ways in diet and training to get better, and stronger should read this thread.
Jackie
xx
First of all, there was no personal attack. I simply asked if your comment to FF was an attempt at humor - as it seemed otherwise ( at least to me ). Secondly, I asked - " with all due respect ' - what grade you were in as a simply query of your background - mostly as a result of how you structure posts, the use of " Rock On " & " Dude " ( i.e as this is what my 17 & 18 year olds often might say ), etc. etc. No offense intended. And, I have read your thread actually.
After reading it, I only first posted a comment after you said..........
" I am one of those that do not have sympathy for one that cant handle their diet..... sympathy isnt what one needs "
" Most of us understand what causes diet complications; understanding isn't what one needs "
" Most of us understand what causes diet complications; understanding isn't what one needs "
I for one, have a slightly different view - at least on this point. I DO have sympathy for those who have a tough time sticking to a diet or meeting their diet goals. And depending on the context, I think sympathy and empathy for the many failures one may face along the road toward their goals has it's place. Behavior modification that results in sustainable change is wrought with varying degrees ups and downs, of 2 steps forward and 1 step back etc. etc.
Ditto for understanding. I find " understanding " is a key component for sustained change IMO. If one is trying to reach goals set out by a third party or trainer, then you are right , all you need is ' action ' and blind obedience. The ' just do it ' approach. But, if people are left to their own devices, knowledge is very important. This is benefit of forums like this in which specific advice can be given with to respect to " hows " and ' why " at heart of the science behind health and fitness. There are good & bad and optimal and mythical approaches one might employ in attempts to reach one's goal. if you are trying to meet your goals on your own - one has to have an " understanding " of all such things IMO.
I'd also suggest one has to gain some knowledge of what it means to set realistic expectations and to develop a knowledge of how to manage those expectations. To the extent we have control of and can directly determine the consequences of our actions , not everyone will always meet their goal. All these multiple ' ra - ra ' ' cheerleading ' quotes you endlessly cite - and that I too once used when I was coaching 25 years ago and subsequently stopped - MAY have their place in confirming what is possible under certain circumstances. But, they do not work in all cases and are limited as a motivational tool based on my experience coaching ( and based on some advice we got from sports psychologists ).
Actually, as I pointed out above - I simply feel that motivating people to reach health & fitness goals by way of behavior modification is a very complex undertaking and as a result can be a very long journey for some people. This is why I tend to have a higher tolerance level for " sympathy " and " knowledge " in contrast to what youcited in your quotes. In fact, the only reason I responded in the first place, was to ask you about those 2 very points and so that i could expand on those points a bit more.
I can't speak for the other poster as to what he meant by " weird " , but the " weird " is in no way in reference to the intent of the thread at all IMO. We all agree that any thread that discusses health and fitness issues has to opportunity to provide some value. As for this thread, I seems your intention is to provide some kind of daily motivational / inspirational shot in the arm for those who may need it. And that intent is anything but weird - but rather, very commendable. Well done. The weird ( at least for me ) has only to do with how the posts themselves are structured - the seemingly endless barrage of quotes representing a variety of different themes seems to blur the focus a bit and the message tends to be drowned out in the animated cheer leading of positive thinking rhetoric by way of motivation by quotes. In other words, the presumed intent of your message is ' spot-on '.....it's just the delivery is ( at times) al over the map .... rambling, disjointed etc. etc.
Nothing in this thread assists me in any way ( so far ). Been there / done that. For example...I put much less emphasis on ' motivational ' quotes as a tool in goal setting and motivating people than you do. But that's just me.
I would hope that you too would " open your mind to the surroundings " and be willing to engage in dialogue not only with posters who support some of the philosophies and statements you make , but also to those who may have questions about them or even those who might challenge them in some way.
This is a forum after all.
Well, I'm not. This is simply another thread open to feedback. Initially, I simply had a somewhat different view on the topics of sympathy and knowledge - prompting my post to ask you to elaborate on your statements.
No worries there...I met all my personal health and fitness goals and coaching goals years ago.
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hahahahhaa this chick is so FF'in funny. just had to poke it didn't cha!!!
good grief woman!
hahahahahahaaa
OOPS!........Im not in a hurry to be 47..........I mean 17......ROCK ON! (LOL)
I changed it........a year is a bit long......LOL And, changed it to July. OH boy!.....(bangs head on table)
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Thank you, FF. Whether you know it or not, I have a rather huge nose, and take in alot of air, so breathing is all good!
It has a calming effect....and the statement is so correct............ROCK FORWARD FF!Chillen
July 12th, 2007: Thoughts for the day!
We on the forum are blessed to have one another in one spirit. Feed correctly off one another to reach our goals and paths we want to take. As always, I wish all of you the best everyday.
Today we reach into varying degrees of progress and differing views on how to deal with it:
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Thomas A. Edison:
Restlessness and discontent are the first necessities of progress.
The path to our destination is not always a straight one. We go down the wrong road, we get lost, we turn back. Maybe it doesn't matter which road we embark on. Maybe what matters is that we embark.
Barbara Hall
Every day you may make progress. Every step may be fruitful. Yet there will stretch out before you an ever-lengthening, ever-ascending, ever-improving path. You dont know for sure that you will get to the end of the journey. But this, so far from discouraging, only adds to the joy and glory of the climb.
Sir Winston Churchill (1874 - 1965)
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Intellectually, as politically, the direction of all true progress is towards greater freedom, and along an endless succession of ideas.
Christian Nestell Bovee
(I believe there is no such thing, as trying everything, if you have a mental composite of trying new ideas and continue searching for new ideas in your diet and training)
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Progress is the activity of today and the assurance of tomorrow.
Ralph Waldo Emerson
It is for us to discharge the high duties that devolve on us, and to carry onward. To be no better, no wiser, no greater than the past is to be little and foolish and bad; it is to misapply noble means, to sacrifice glorious opportunities for the performance of sublime deeds, to become cumberers of the ground.
William Lloyd Garrison
Progress has not followed a straight ascending line, but a spiral with rhythms of progress and retrogression, of evolution and dissolution.
Johann Wolfgang von Goethe
Look up and not down; look forward and not back; look out and cogntively within; and lend a hand.
Edward Everett Hale
(RIGHT ON!) THink about this one.
Progress is man's ability to complicate simplicity.
Thor Heyerdahl
(FF likes simplicity)
Cost is the father and compensation the mother of progress.
Josiah Gilbert Holland (used pseudonym Timothy Titcomb)
Not because I raise myself above something but because I raise myself to something, do I approve myself.
Hermann Jacobi
We are never present with, but always beyond ourselves. Fear, desire, and hope are still pushing us on towards the future.
- Michel Eyquem de Montaigne
What follows I flee; what flees I ever pursue.
[Lat., Quod sequitur, fugio; quod fugit, usque sequor.]
Ovid (Publius Ovidius Naso), Amorum (II, 19, 36)
Row on [whatever happens].
[Lat., Vogue la galere.]
Francois Rabelais, Gargantua (I, 3)
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world: the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
George Bernard Shaw, Man and Superman
If you strike a thorn or rose,
Keep a-goin'!
If it hails or if it snows,
Keep a-goin'!
'Tain't no use to sit and whine
'Cause the fish ain't on your line;
Bait you hook an' keep on tryin',
Keep a-goin'!
Frank Lebby Stanton, Keep a-goin'
We cross our bridges when we come to them and burn them behind us, with nothing to show for our progress except a memory of the smell of smoke, and a presumption that once our eyes watered.
Tom Stoppard
Moral excellence is the bright consummate flower of all progress.
Charles Sumner
Fundamental progress has to do with the reinterpretation of basic ideas.
Alfred North Whitehead
Press on!--"For in the grave there is no work
And no device"--Press on! while yet ye may!
Nathaniel Parker Willis,
From a Poem Delivered at Yale College
(l. 45)
I never saw a discontented tree. They grip the ground as though they liked it, and though fast rooted they travel about as far as we do. They go wandering forth in all directions with every wind.
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And I Leave you with this last one:
MARK TWAIN:
If I were required to guess off-hand, and without collusion with higher minds, what is the bottom cause of the amazing material and intellectual advancement of the last fifty years, I should guess that it was the modern-born and previously non-existent disposition on the part of men to believe that a new idea can have value.
(if stagnated in some portion of diet and training, you may want to consider a new idea and give it value and thus give it a shot and a chance to improve your present condition)
========================================================
ROCK ON! Each and everyone. Progress forward, ever forward, no retreat as this is obsolete and allows self cheat. Be persistant.........you will be rewarded. Dont let your self down. Develop progessional strengths against your personal weaknesses, you WILL be stronger.
Wish all of you the best. I hope your day went well.
I have a good issue for tommorrow, sort of taylored to recent activities.
Jackie........Keep your chin up girl, it is there for you, you are on the right path
FF......I want your adrenoline (MS)...........come on give it up.....
CCR how is this week progressing for you?
PB.........how is your lat?
CHILLEN...................ROCK THE HELL FORWARD!........................
We on the forum are blessed to have one another in one spirit. Feed correctly off one another to reach our goals and paths we want to take. As always, I wish all of you the best everyday.
Today we reach into varying degrees of progress and differing views on how to deal with it:
========================================================
Thomas A. Edison:
Restlessness and discontent are the first necessities of progress.
The path to our destination is not always a straight one. We go down the wrong road, we get lost, we turn back. Maybe it doesn't matter which road we embark on. Maybe what matters is that we embark.
Barbara Hall
Every day you may make progress. Every step may be fruitful. Yet there will stretch out before you an ever-lengthening, ever-ascending, ever-improving path. You dont know for sure that you will get to the end of the journey. But this, so far from discouraging, only adds to the joy and glory of the climb.
Sir Winston Churchill (1874 - 1965)
======================================================
Intellectually, as politically, the direction of all true progress is towards greater freedom, and along an endless succession of ideas.
Christian Nestell Bovee
(I believe there is no such thing, as trying everything, if you have a mental composite of trying new ideas and continue searching for new ideas in your diet and training)
======================================================
Progress is the activity of today and the assurance of tomorrow.
Ralph Waldo Emerson
It is for us to discharge the high duties that devolve on us, and to carry onward. To be no better, no wiser, no greater than the past is to be little and foolish and bad; it is to misapply noble means, to sacrifice glorious opportunities for the performance of sublime deeds, to become cumberers of the ground.
William Lloyd Garrison
Progress has not followed a straight ascending line, but a spiral with rhythms of progress and retrogression, of evolution and dissolution.
Johann Wolfgang von Goethe
Look up and not down; look forward and not back; look out and cogntively within; and lend a hand.
Edward Everett Hale
(RIGHT ON!) THink about this one.
Progress is man's ability to complicate simplicity.
Thor Heyerdahl
(FF likes simplicity)
Cost is the father and compensation the mother of progress.
Josiah Gilbert Holland (used pseudonym Timothy Titcomb)
Not because I raise myself above something but because I raise myself to something, do I approve myself.
Hermann Jacobi
We are never present with, but always beyond ourselves. Fear, desire, and hope are still pushing us on towards the future.
- Michel Eyquem de Montaigne
What follows I flee; what flees I ever pursue.
[Lat., Quod sequitur, fugio; quod fugit, usque sequor.]
Ovid (Publius Ovidius Naso), Amorum (II, 19, 36)
Row on [whatever happens].
[Lat., Vogue la galere.]
Francois Rabelais, Gargantua (I, 3)
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world: the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
George Bernard Shaw, Man and Superman
If you strike a thorn or rose,
Keep a-goin'!
If it hails or if it snows,
Keep a-goin'!
'Tain't no use to sit and whine
'Cause the fish ain't on your line;
Bait you hook an' keep on tryin',
Keep a-goin'!
Frank Lebby Stanton, Keep a-goin'
We cross our bridges when we come to them and burn them behind us, with nothing to show for our progress except a memory of the smell of smoke, and a presumption that once our eyes watered.
Tom Stoppard
Moral excellence is the bright consummate flower of all progress.
Charles Sumner
Fundamental progress has to do with the reinterpretation of basic ideas.
Alfred North Whitehead
Press on!--"For in the grave there is no work
And no device"--Press on! while yet ye may!
Nathaniel Parker Willis,
From a Poem Delivered at Yale College
(l. 45)
I never saw a discontented tree. They grip the ground as though they liked it, and though fast rooted they travel about as far as we do. They go wandering forth in all directions with every wind.
========================================================
And I Leave you with this last one:
MARK TWAIN:
If I were required to guess off-hand, and without collusion with higher minds, what is the bottom cause of the amazing material and intellectual advancement of the last fifty years, I should guess that it was the modern-born and previously non-existent disposition on the part of men to believe that a new idea can have value.
(if stagnated in some portion of diet and training, you may want to consider a new idea and give it value and thus give it a shot and a chance to improve your present condition)
========================================================
ROCK ON! Each and everyone. Progress forward, ever forward, no retreat as this is obsolete and allows self cheat. Be persistant.........you will be rewarded. Dont let your self down. Develop progessional strengths against your personal weaknesses, you WILL be stronger.
Wish all of you the best. I hope your day went well.
I have a good issue for tommorrow, sort of taylored to recent activities.
Jackie........Keep your chin up girl, it is there for you, you are on the right path
FF......I want your adrenoline (MS)...........come on give it up.....
CCR how is this week progressing for you?
PB.........how is your lat?
CHILLEN...................ROCK THE HELL FORWARD!........................
July 12th, 2007 Thoughts of the day (2)
Some thoughts on Weight loss motivation with using the alphabet:
Motivation - the heart of self improvement
Pain may sometimes be the reason why people change. Getting flunked grades make us realize that we need to study. Debts remind us of our inability to look for a source of income. Being humiliated gives us the 'push' to speak up and fight for ourselves to save our face from the next embarrassments. It may be a bitter experience, a friend's tragic story, a great movie, or an inspiring book that will help us get up and get just the right amount of motivation we need in order to improve ourselves.
With the countless negativities the world brings about, how do we keep motivated? Try on the tips prepared from A to Z...
A - Achieve your dreams. Avoid negative people, things and places. Eleanor Roosevelt once said, "the future belongs to those who believe in the beauty of their dreams."
B - Believe in your self, and in what you can do.
C - Consider things on every angle and aspect. Motivation comes from determination. To be able to understand life, you should feel the sun from both sides.
D - Don't give up and don't give in. Thomas Edison failed once, twice, more than thrice before he came up with his invention and perfected the incandescent light bulb. Make motivation as your steering wheel.
E - Enjoy. Work as if you don't need money. Dance as if nobody's watching. Love as if you never cried. Learn as if you'll live forever. Motivation takes place when people are happy.
F - Family and Friends - are life's greatest 'F' treasures. Don't loose sight of them.
G - Give more than what is enough. Where does motivation and self improvement take place at work? At home? At school? When you exert extra effort in doing things.
H - Hang on to your dreams. They may dangle in there for a moment, but these little stars will be your driving force.
I - Ignore those who try to destroy you. Don't let other people to get the best of you. Stay out of toxic people - the kind of friends who hates to hear about your success.
J - Just be yourself. The key to success is to be yourself. And the key to failure is to try to please everyone.
K - keep trying no matter how hard life may seem. When a person is motivated, eventually he sees a harsh life finally clearing out, paving the way to self improvement.
L - Learn to love your self. Now isn't that easy?
M - Make things happen. Motivation is when your dreams are put into work clothes.
N - Never lie, cheat or steal. Always play a fair game.
O - Open your eyes. People should learn the horse attitude and horse sense. They see things in 2 ways - how they want things to be, and how they should be.
P - Practice makes perfect. Practice is about motivation. It lets us learn repertoire and ways on how can we recover from our mistakes.
Q - Quitters never win. And winners never quit. So, choose your fate - are you going to be a quitter? Or a winner?
R - Ready yourself. Motivation is also about preparation. We must hear the little voice within us telling us to get started before others will get on their feet and try to push us around. Remember, it wasn't raining when Noah build the ark.
S - Stop procrastinating.
T - Take control of your life. Discipline or self control jives synonymously with motivation. Both are key factors in self improvement.
U - Understand others. If you know very well how to talk, you should also learn how to listen. Yearn to understand first, and to be understood the second.
V - Visualize it. Motivation without vision is like a boat on a dry land.
W - Want it more than anything. Dreaming means believing. And to believe is something that is rooted out from the roots of motivation and self improvement.
X - X Factor is what will make you different from the others. When you are motivated, you tend to put on "extras" on your life like extra time for family, extra help at work, extra care for friends, and so on.
Y - You are unique. No one in this world looks, acts, or talks like you. Value your life and existence, because you're just going to spend it once.
Z - Zero in on your dreams and go for it!!!
By - Stephen Pierce
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Should be something in there for at least one fellow member! ROCK ON EVERYONE!
Chillen
Some thoughts on Weight loss motivation with using the alphabet:
Motivation - the heart of self improvement
Pain may sometimes be the reason why people change. Getting flunked grades make us realize that we need to study. Debts remind us of our inability to look for a source of income. Being humiliated gives us the 'push' to speak up and fight for ourselves to save our face from the next embarrassments. It may be a bitter experience, a friend's tragic story, a great movie, or an inspiring book that will help us get up and get just the right amount of motivation we need in order to improve ourselves.
With the countless negativities the world brings about, how do we keep motivated? Try on the tips prepared from A to Z...
A - Achieve your dreams. Avoid negative people, things and places. Eleanor Roosevelt once said, "the future belongs to those who believe in the beauty of their dreams."
B - Believe in your self, and in what you can do.
C - Consider things on every angle and aspect. Motivation comes from determination. To be able to understand life, you should feel the sun from both sides.
D - Don't give up and don't give in. Thomas Edison failed once, twice, more than thrice before he came up with his invention and perfected the incandescent light bulb. Make motivation as your steering wheel.
E - Enjoy. Work as if you don't need money. Dance as if nobody's watching. Love as if you never cried. Learn as if you'll live forever. Motivation takes place when people are happy.
F - Family and Friends - are life's greatest 'F' treasures. Don't loose sight of them.
G - Give more than what is enough. Where does motivation and self improvement take place at work? At home? At school? When you exert extra effort in doing things.
H - Hang on to your dreams. They may dangle in there for a moment, but these little stars will be your driving force.
I - Ignore those who try to destroy you. Don't let other people to get the best of you. Stay out of toxic people - the kind of friends who hates to hear about your success.
J - Just be yourself. The key to success is to be yourself. And the key to failure is to try to please everyone.
K - keep trying no matter how hard life may seem. When a person is motivated, eventually he sees a harsh life finally clearing out, paving the way to self improvement.
L - Learn to love your self. Now isn't that easy?
M - Make things happen. Motivation is when your dreams are put into work clothes.
N - Never lie, cheat or steal. Always play a fair game.
O - Open your eyes. People should learn the horse attitude and horse sense. They see things in 2 ways - how they want things to be, and how they should be.
P - Practice makes perfect. Practice is about motivation. It lets us learn repertoire and ways on how can we recover from our mistakes.
Q - Quitters never win. And winners never quit. So, choose your fate - are you going to be a quitter? Or a winner?
R - Ready yourself. Motivation is also about preparation. We must hear the little voice within us telling us to get started before others will get on their feet and try to push us around. Remember, it wasn't raining when Noah build the ark.
S - Stop procrastinating.
T - Take control of your life. Discipline or self control jives synonymously with motivation. Both are key factors in self improvement.
U - Understand others. If you know very well how to talk, you should also learn how to listen. Yearn to understand first, and to be understood the second.
V - Visualize it. Motivation without vision is like a boat on a dry land.
W - Want it more than anything. Dreaming means believing. And to believe is something that is rooted out from the roots of motivation and self improvement.
X - X Factor is what will make you different from the others. When you are motivated, you tend to put on "extras" on your life like extra time for family, extra help at work, extra care for friends, and so on.
Y - You are unique. No one in this world looks, acts, or talks like you. Value your life and existence, because you're just going to spend it once.
Z - Zero in on your dreams and go for it!!!
By - Stephen Pierce
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Should be something in there for at least one fellow member! ROCK ON EVERYONE!
Chillen
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July 12th, 2007 thought for the day (3)
Improving ourselves:
“The ''Inside-Out'' approach to personal and interpersonal effectiveness means to start first with self; even more fundamentally, to start with the most inside part of self / with your paradigms, your character, and your motives. The inside-out approach says that private victories precede public victories, that making and keeping promises to ourselves recedes making and keeping promises to others. It says it is futile to put personality ahead of character, to try to improve relationships with others before improving ourselves.”
Stephen R. Covey
Believe in yourselves:
In faith there is enough light for those who want to believe and enough shadows to blind those who don't.
It doesn't matter how many say it cannot be done or how many people have tried it before; it's important to realize that whatever you're doing, it's your first attempt at it.
Habit:
Habit is either the best of servants or the worst of masters.
Man becomes a slave to his constantly repeated acts. What he at first chooses, at last compels.
I say that habit's but a long practice, friend, and this becomes men's nature in the end.
Sow a thought, and you reap an act; Sow an act, and you reap a habit; Sow a habit, and you reap a character; Sow a character, and you reap a destiny.
Stop the habit of wishful thinking and start the habit of thoughtful wishes.
Thoughts lead on to purposes; purposes go forth in action; actions form habits; habits decide character; and character fixes our destiny.
Watch your thoughts; they become words. Watch your words; they become actions. Watch your actions; they become habits. Watch your habits; they become character. Watch your character; it becomes your destiny.
Discipline:
Develop the winning edge; small differences in your performance can lead to large differences in your results
Discipline is the bridge between goals and accomplishments
No man is fit to command another that cannot command himself.
The difference between perseverance and obstinacy is that one comes from a strong will, and the other from a strong won't.
Your own mind is a sacred enclosure into which nothing harmful can enter except by your permission.
The successful person has the habit of doing the things failures don't like to do. They don't like doing them either necessarily. But their disliking is subordinated to the strength of their purpose
Disciplining yourself to do what you know is right and importance, although difficult, is the high road to pride, self-esteem and personal satisfaction.
Everything you want in life has a price connected to it. There's a price to pay if you want to make things better, a price to pay just for leaving things as they are, a price for everything.
Unless you change how you are, you will always have what you've got
Must is a hard nut to crack, but it has a sweet kernel.
No horse gets anywhere until he is harnessed. No stream or gas drives anything until it is confined. No Niagara is ever turned into light and power until it is tunneled. No life ever grows great until it is focused, dedicated, disciplined.
If you do not conquer self, you will be conquered by self.
If you will discipline yourself to make your mind self-sufficient you will thereby be least vulnerable to injury from the outside.
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Each and every one of you WILL reach your goals. ALL you have to do is conquer yourself and the rest will follow your desires........Rock on forum members,,,,,,,,,,,I hope the day went well without any bumps in the road and it was another day notched in progress!
Chillen
Improving ourselves:
“The ''Inside-Out'' approach to personal and interpersonal effectiveness means to start first with self; even more fundamentally, to start with the most inside part of self / with your paradigms, your character, and your motives. The inside-out approach says that private victories precede public victories, that making and keeping promises to ourselves recedes making and keeping promises to others. It says it is futile to put personality ahead of character, to try to improve relationships with others before improving ourselves.”
Stephen R. Covey
Believe in yourselves:
In faith there is enough light for those who want to believe and enough shadows to blind those who don't.
It doesn't matter how many say it cannot be done or how many people have tried it before; it's important to realize that whatever you're doing, it's your first attempt at it.
Habit:
Habit is either the best of servants or the worst of masters.
Man becomes a slave to his constantly repeated acts. What he at first chooses, at last compels.
I say that habit's but a long practice, friend, and this becomes men's nature in the end.
Sow a thought, and you reap an act; Sow an act, and you reap a habit; Sow a habit, and you reap a character; Sow a character, and you reap a destiny.
Stop the habit of wishful thinking and start the habit of thoughtful wishes.
Thoughts lead on to purposes; purposes go forth in action; actions form habits; habits decide character; and character fixes our destiny.
Watch your thoughts; they become words. Watch your words; they become actions. Watch your actions; they become habits. Watch your habits; they become character. Watch your character; it becomes your destiny.
Discipline:
Develop the winning edge; small differences in your performance can lead to large differences in your results
Discipline is the bridge between goals and accomplishments
No man is fit to command another that cannot command himself.
The difference between perseverance and obstinacy is that one comes from a strong will, and the other from a strong won't.
Your own mind is a sacred enclosure into which nothing harmful can enter except by your permission.
The successful person has the habit of doing the things failures don't like to do. They don't like doing them either necessarily. But their disliking is subordinated to the strength of their purpose
Disciplining yourself to do what you know is right and importance, although difficult, is the high road to pride, self-esteem and personal satisfaction.
Everything you want in life has a price connected to it. There's a price to pay if you want to make things better, a price to pay just for leaving things as they are, a price for everything.
Unless you change how you are, you will always have what you've got
Must is a hard nut to crack, but it has a sweet kernel.
No horse gets anywhere until he is harnessed. No stream or gas drives anything until it is confined. No Niagara is ever turned into light and power until it is tunneled. No life ever grows great until it is focused, dedicated, disciplined.
If you do not conquer self, you will be conquered by self.
If you will discipline yourself to make your mind self-sufficient you will thereby be least vulnerable to injury from the outside.
=========================================================
Each and every one of you WILL reach your goals. ALL you have to do is conquer yourself and the rest will follow your desires........Rock on forum members,,,,,,,,,,,I hope the day went well without any bumps in the road and it was another day notched in progress!
Chillen
Been working quite a few hours the last few days. And, with training been pretty busy.
I will make a fantastic post later today...........Hope all of you are in good spirits!.................Stay ready and steady at all times! ROCK ON!
Wish all of you the best.
Just letting you know whats up.
Push forward. No retreat.
Get er....done! (LOL)
I will make a fantastic post later today...........Hope all of you are in good spirits!.................Stay ready and steady at all times! ROCK ON!
Wish all of you the best.
Just letting you know whats up.
Push forward. No retreat.
Get er....done! (LOL)
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July 14th, 2007: Thoughts for the day
Its Saturday! Lets hope this week accumulated days complimented your goals. Remember your body is an accumulation of its past. And, which ever stimulant is dominant, is the one that will shine the most.
I wish all of you the best as always. Rise to the challenges the body gives you! Outside of physical injury, its more of a mental game over it. ROCK ON!
Chillens selected quotes of the day:
The brain gives the heart its sight. The heart gives the brain its vision.
Kall
I not only use all the brains I have, but all that I can borrow.
--Woodrow Wilson
No brain is stronger than its weakest think.
--Thomas L. Masson
(fantastic quote)
"The difference between a rut and a grave is the depth."
Gerald Burrill
(your thoughts develop how deep the rut is and whether it turns into a grave for your goals)
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Body and Mind
Bodily exercise, when compulsory, does no harm to the body; but knowledge which is acquired under compulsion obtains no hold on the mind.
Plato (427 BC - 347 BC)
Our bodies communicate to us clearly and specifically, if we are willing to listen to them.
Shakti Gawain
Our bodies are our gardens to which our wills are gardeners.
William Shakespeare (1564 - 1616)
“I firmly believe that all human beings have access to extraordinary energies and powers. Judging from accounts of mystical experience, heightened creativity, or exceptional performance by athletes and artists, we harbor a greater life than we know. There we go beyond those limited and limiting patterns of body, emotions, volition, and understanding that have been keeping us in dry-dock. Instead we become available to our capacity for a larger life in body, mind, and spirit. In this state we know great torrents of delight.”
Jean Houston
“Our limitations and success will be based, most often, on your own expectations for ourselves. What the mind dwells upon, the body acts upon.”
Denis Waitley quotes
(one "nearly" has to be obsessed with their goal (s) to achive them. Dwell on it, and act on it, people!)
The secret of health for both mind and body is not to mourn for the past, worry about the future, or anticipate troubles, but to live in the present moment wisely and earnestly.
Buddha
“Friendship is one mind in two bodies.”
Mencius
“The truth is that we can learn to condition our minds, bodies, and emotions to link pain or pleasure to whatever we choose. By changing what we link pain and pleasure to, we will instantly change our behaviors.”
Anthony Robbins
All that we are is the result of what we have thought. The mind is everything. What we think we become.
Buddha
“Meditation brings wisdom; lack of mediation leaves ignorance. Know well what leads you forward and what hold you back, and choose the path that leads to wisdom.”
Buddha
Your work is to discover your work and then with all your heart to give yourself to it.”
Buddha
“The secret of health for both mind and body is not to mourn for the past, worry about the future, or anticipate troubles, but to live in the present moment wisely and earnestly.”
Buddha
“The mind commands the body and it obeys. The mind orders itself and meets resistance.”
Flashbolt
The torment of human frustration, whatever its immediate cause, is the knowledge that the self is in prison, its vital force and "mangled mind" leaking away in lonely, wasteful self-conflict.
(this cannot happen, conflict resolve yourself PEOPLE!)
John Dewey:
The very problem of mind and body suggests division; I do not know of anything so disastrously affected by the habit of division as this particular theme. In its discussion are reflected the splitting off from each other of religion, morals and science; the divorce of philosophy from science and of both from the arts of conduct. The evils which we suffer in education, in religion, in the materialism of business and the aloofness of "intellectuals" from life, in the whole separation of knowledge and practice -- all testify to the necessity of seeing mind-body as an integral whole.
If the mind, that rules the body, ever so far forgets itself as to trample on its slave, the slave is never generous enough to forgive the injury, but will rise and smite the oppressor. ~Henry Wadsworth Longfellow
Sometimes it's harder to attain inner silence than outer silence. The dog stopped barking and the kids have gone to bed, but your mind has a lot to talk about and it knows you can't pretend you're not at home. ~Linda Solegato
The mind, once expanded to the dimensions of larger ideas, never returns to its original size. ~Oliver Wendell Holmes
Some minds seem almost to create themselves, springing up under every disadvantage and working their solitary but irresistible way through a thousand obstacles. ~Washington Irving, The Sketch Book, 1820
When we analyze will with all the tools modern psychoanalysis
brings us, we shall find ourselves pushed back to the level of
attention as the seat of will. The effort which goes into the
exercise of the will is really effort of attention; the strain
in willing is the effort to keep the consciousness clear, ie.,
the strain of keeping the attention focused.
Rollo May, Love and Will
When I examine myself and my methods of thought, I come to the conclusion that the gift of fantasy has meant more to me than my talent for absorbing positive knowledge.
Albert Einstein
(exmine your thoughts as it relates to your goals, BE BRUTAL and HONEST with them, and deal with it effectively and postively)
"If passion drives, let reason hold the reins."
Franklin, Benjamin, POOR RICHARD'S ALMANAC
Doc Childre and Howard Martin, The HeartMath Solution
Stress is the body and mind's response to any stressful pressure that disrupts the balance in the mind or body. It occurs when our perceptions of events don't meet our expectations and we don't manage our reaction to the disappointment. As a response, stress expresses itself as resistance, tension, strain or frustration, that throws off our physiological and psychological equilibrium, keeping us out-of-sync and stressed-out.
Institute of HeartMath, Research Overview
While situations, encounters or events may seem intrinsically "stressful," it is truly how an individual perceives and reacts to an event that determines whether or not the stress response is activated.
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This one is for a certain individual:
Niccolo Machiavelli
There are three different kinds of brains, the one understands things unassisted, the other understands things when shown by others, and the third understands neither alone nor with the explanations of others. The first kind is most excellent, the second kind also excellent, but the third useless.
(understanding perplexities internally assists ones self even when it doesnt apply to oneself nor fit oneself). Let your brain work for your goal consciousness.
ROCK ON! Everyone today and everyday.
Blast your troubles and tribulations away through the power of postive thought and plow down anything that comes in your path that may impede your gaol (s)...................Reach for the stars as you will be the star---------------------------
The goals IS there for your achievement!
Chillen
Its Saturday! Lets hope this week accumulated days complimented your goals. Remember your body is an accumulation of its past. And, which ever stimulant is dominant, is the one that will shine the most.
I wish all of you the best as always. Rise to the challenges the body gives you! Outside of physical injury, its more of a mental game over it. ROCK ON!
Chillens selected quotes of the day:
The brain gives the heart its sight. The heart gives the brain its vision.
Kall
I not only use all the brains I have, but all that I can borrow.
--Woodrow Wilson
No brain is stronger than its weakest think.
--Thomas L. Masson
(fantastic quote)
"The difference between a rut and a grave is the depth."
Gerald Burrill
(your thoughts develop how deep the rut is and whether it turns into a grave for your goals)
==========================================================
Body and Mind
Bodily exercise, when compulsory, does no harm to the body; but knowledge which is acquired under compulsion obtains no hold on the mind.
Plato (427 BC - 347 BC)
Our bodies communicate to us clearly and specifically, if we are willing to listen to them.
Shakti Gawain
Our bodies are our gardens to which our wills are gardeners.
William Shakespeare (1564 - 1616)
“I firmly believe that all human beings have access to extraordinary energies and powers. Judging from accounts of mystical experience, heightened creativity, or exceptional performance by athletes and artists, we harbor a greater life than we know. There we go beyond those limited and limiting patterns of body, emotions, volition, and understanding that have been keeping us in dry-dock. Instead we become available to our capacity for a larger life in body, mind, and spirit. In this state we know great torrents of delight.”
Jean Houston
“Our limitations and success will be based, most often, on your own expectations for ourselves. What the mind dwells upon, the body acts upon.”
Denis Waitley quotes
(one "nearly" has to be obsessed with their goal (s) to achive them. Dwell on it, and act on it, people!)
The secret of health for both mind and body is not to mourn for the past, worry about the future, or anticipate troubles, but to live in the present moment wisely and earnestly.
Buddha
“Friendship is one mind in two bodies.”
Mencius
“The truth is that we can learn to condition our minds, bodies, and emotions to link pain or pleasure to whatever we choose. By changing what we link pain and pleasure to, we will instantly change our behaviors.”
Anthony Robbins
All that we are is the result of what we have thought. The mind is everything. What we think we become.
Buddha
“Meditation brings wisdom; lack of mediation leaves ignorance. Know well what leads you forward and what hold you back, and choose the path that leads to wisdom.”
Buddha
Your work is to discover your work and then with all your heart to give yourself to it.”
Buddha
“The secret of health for both mind and body is not to mourn for the past, worry about the future, or anticipate troubles, but to live in the present moment wisely and earnestly.”
Buddha
“The mind commands the body and it obeys. The mind orders itself and meets resistance.”
Flashbolt
The torment of human frustration, whatever its immediate cause, is the knowledge that the self is in prison, its vital force and "mangled mind" leaking away in lonely, wasteful self-conflict.
(this cannot happen, conflict resolve yourself PEOPLE!)
John Dewey:
The very problem of mind and body suggests division; I do not know of anything so disastrously affected by the habit of division as this particular theme. In its discussion are reflected the splitting off from each other of religion, morals and science; the divorce of philosophy from science and of both from the arts of conduct. The evils which we suffer in education, in religion, in the materialism of business and the aloofness of "intellectuals" from life, in the whole separation of knowledge and practice -- all testify to the necessity of seeing mind-body as an integral whole.
If the mind, that rules the body, ever so far forgets itself as to trample on its slave, the slave is never generous enough to forgive the injury, but will rise and smite the oppressor. ~Henry Wadsworth Longfellow
Sometimes it's harder to attain inner silence than outer silence. The dog stopped barking and the kids have gone to bed, but your mind has a lot to talk about and it knows you can't pretend you're not at home. ~Linda Solegato
The mind, once expanded to the dimensions of larger ideas, never returns to its original size. ~Oliver Wendell Holmes
Some minds seem almost to create themselves, springing up under every disadvantage and working their solitary but irresistible way through a thousand obstacles. ~Washington Irving, The Sketch Book, 1820
When we analyze will with all the tools modern psychoanalysis
brings us, we shall find ourselves pushed back to the level of
attention as the seat of will. The effort which goes into the
exercise of the will is really effort of attention; the strain
in willing is the effort to keep the consciousness clear, ie.,
the strain of keeping the attention focused.
Rollo May, Love and Will
When I examine myself and my methods of thought, I come to the conclusion that the gift of fantasy has meant more to me than my talent for absorbing positive knowledge.
Albert Einstein
(exmine your thoughts as it relates to your goals, BE BRUTAL and HONEST with them, and deal with it effectively and postively)
"If passion drives, let reason hold the reins."
Franklin, Benjamin, POOR RICHARD'S ALMANAC
Doc Childre and Howard Martin, The HeartMath Solution
Stress is the body and mind's response to any stressful pressure that disrupts the balance in the mind or body. It occurs when our perceptions of events don't meet our expectations and we don't manage our reaction to the disappointment. As a response, stress expresses itself as resistance, tension, strain or frustration, that throws off our physiological and psychological equilibrium, keeping us out-of-sync and stressed-out.
Institute of HeartMath, Research Overview
While situations, encounters or events may seem intrinsically "stressful," it is truly how an individual perceives and reacts to an event that determines whether or not the stress response is activated.
========================================================
This one is for a certain individual:
Niccolo Machiavelli
There are three different kinds of brains, the one understands things unassisted, the other understands things when shown by others, and the third understands neither alone nor with the explanations of others. The first kind is most excellent, the second kind also excellent, but the third useless.
(understanding perplexities internally assists ones self even when it doesnt apply to oneself nor fit oneself). Let your brain work for your goal consciousness.
ROCK ON! Everyone today and everyday.
Blast your troubles and tribulations away through the power of postive thought and plow down anything that comes in your path that may impede your gaol (s)...................Reach for the stars as you will be the star---------------------------
The goals IS there for your achievement!
Chillen
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awesome quotes dr chill. im lovin this.
hey look
“The secret of health for both mind and body is not to mourn for the past, worry about the future, or anticipate troubles, but to live in the present moment wisely and earnestly.”
Buddha
you put that quote twice in your post. i thought maybe you purposely put it there twice to see if anyone is paying attention. >;D
hey look
“The secret of health for both mind and body is not to mourn for the past, worry about the future, or anticipate troubles, but to live in the present moment wisely and earnestly.”
Buddha
you put that quote twice in your post. i thought maybe you purposely put it there twice to see if anyone is paying attention. >;D
Actually all posts subsequent to July 1, have secrets..........anyone finds them, its a +rep
and since you located this one;
PB +rep
Good job!
I wasnt about to post that there were secrets, until one member found one.
And one of the youngest and brightest, did....................see if others can find the others subsequent to July 1
and since you located this one;
PB +rep
Good job!
I wasnt about to post that there were secrets, until one member found one.
And one of the youngest and brightest, did....................see if others can find the others subsequent to July 1
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oh snap! that just makes it funner IMO.
oh and i was reading a page back where wrangle and you were talking.
i personally think the way you present inspiration and motivation/advice is awesome. i dont think it has to be structured in any way. life is random. you never know when you will need the advice.
and about the "cheer leading"....i woulndt have it any other way dude!
GIVE ME A "R"
GIVE ME A "O"
GIVE ME A "C"
GIVE ME A "K"
ROCK ON!!!
oh and i was reading a page back where wrangle and you were talking.
i personally think the way you present inspiration and motivation/advice is awesome. i dont think it has to be structured in any way. life is random. you never know when you will need the advice.
and about the "cheer leading"....i woulndt have it any other way dude!
GIVE ME A "R"
GIVE ME A "O"
GIVE ME A "C"
GIVE ME A "K"
ROCK ON!!!
LOL!..............ROTFL!..............
PB, one of the things I have learned is that everyone has an opinion on a persons opinion, and alot of things can be endlessly and overly debated. And, I am not going there with Wrangell. I will not respond to Wrangell again on this subject matter, I do not agree in the large majority in what he stated. I will not respond to him, UNLESS he installs a negative attitude and walks this path, and I will, +rep, him again if he does.
What I want is one to take a quote or a series of quotes and apply it mentally to their own self for their own personal motivation.......and how this is applied is different from one person to the next. Not every person cycles things Wrangell's way (and this is no disrepect). IF What worked for one, worked for all, there would be no psycholigists needed and these psycholigists wouldnt need one themselves, and the circumferemce of differences in this world would not exist.
What I will say however, if the majority speaks and wants a different structure, then THIS would change my mind, but even then the majority leaves a minority (and I would serve this different way, if you understand what I am stating). I will not change on one persons contrary opinion.
I have a big heart for the persons on this forum. I have walked the talk, I have my blood, sweat, tears, scrapes and bruises, aches and pains, depression, and many other human feelings and emotions in the diet and training goals I set for myself, and I KNOW what it takes----at least for me...........I want others to find it for themselves.........If the majority speaks I will respond, and deal with the minority as well.
I am in the hopes (but I do believe), I am hitting a wide variety of personalities and needs and these persons have opinions as well. Im not concerned about wrangell's personal opinion, I am more concerned with the ones that need assistance, seek assistance, want assistance, etc. Wrangell by his own admittance, doesnt need it. I am trying to appeal to a mass group, and like I said before, if I assist just ONE person over time, then my time ISNT frutile. YOU are one of proof, young man.......ROCK THE HELL ON! LOL!
Everyone hasnt different motivational needs, and having different quotes for different folks is the way to go in this environment.
And THANK YOU for your kind words and inspiration to continue!
I did give you a +rep........because you found the secret, and your attitude toward yourself and in general, is fantastic for being 16! The younger generation being inspired and motivated..........IS WHAT ITS ABOUT! ROCK ON!
Chillen
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hah. you always have a lot to say, chillen. i enjoy reading what you say for a number of reasons. aside from just taking in knowledge and learning about how to handle life, it makes me happy to see that theres a guy out there who has so much energy all aimed towards helping other people...the mood almost always makes me happy too.
i never really had anyone to discuss mental conflicts with and i havent ever known how to handle them, or even realize them. so this is really a great place to just take it all in and start understanding myself and why i feel the way i do.
before this thread, i never really thought much about...thought. i never realized how powerful the body is when you control it with prevailing mind.
i never really had anyone to discuss mental conflicts with and i havent ever known how to handle them, or even realize them. so this is really a great place to just take it all in and start understanding myself and why i feel the way i do.
before this thread, i never really thought much about...thought. i never realized how powerful the body is when you control it with prevailing mind.
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