Sparrows Experiment

8 miles at 8:55 pace tooooo slow but thats what the group was running.

Knees still bothering me, back on Osteo Biflex, advil and Arnica gel
 
8 miles at 8:55 pace tooooo slow but thats what the group was running.

Knees still bothering me, back on Osteo Biflex, advil and Arnica gel

8:55 is not slow. What's up with the knee?

I think I'm on the injured list as well. I've been taking a few days off because I've been feeling some unusual pain in my left leg. I think I might bail on next weekend just to make this go away.
 
8:55 is not slow. What's up with the knee?

I think I'm on the injured list as well. I've been taking a few days off because I've been feeling some unusual pain in my left leg. I think I might bail on next weekend just to make this go away.

Thats really too bad, but better to be well long term than to mess yourself up in the short term and not get a long term! Especially with YOUR goals.

BOTH knees hurt. Its sort of the inside of the knee RIGHT below the patella. Hurts the same place in both knees. It hurt last week around 8 miles and I did 12. This week it hurt around 6 miles and I did 8. By this ratio I should be hurting around the half way point at the marathon! yipes!

I have knee bands I can use while I run as a precaution and I know taking ibuprofen before I run really helps, I just haven't been doing it.
 
Yup... I gotta think about the long term. I got an email from my coach stating that I could take off next week entirely and do well in the marathon. I'm glad to see her ambitions outweigh mine. :) I'll just play it by ear and see what happens.

Knees... better to hurt on the inside than the outside. Welcome to the world of endurance sports. You kind of learn what you can ignore and what you can't. I grade my pains to keep track.

Your coming week should be front-loaded and lighter than last week. That'll give you a little bit of a break to heal. You'll be fine.

Be careful with the NSAIDs. Although they can reduce inflamation, there are a number of other issues that can arise that are far worse than aches and pains.

ibuprofen and marathons - Google Search
 
Thats really too bad, but better to be well long term than to mess yourself up in the short term and not get a long term! Especially with YOUR goals.

BOTH knees hurt. Its sort of the inside of the knee RIGHT below the patella. Hurts the same place in both knees. It hurt last week around 8 miles and I did 12. This week it hurt around 6 miles and I did 8. By this ratio I should be hurting around the half way point at the marathon! yipes!

I have knee bands I can use while I run as a precaution and I know taking ibuprofen before I run really helps, I just haven't been doing it.

Sounds like patella tendinitis to me...
 
tsil-thanks for the link. There seems to be some conflicting opinions-amongst the commonfolk in the running community anyway. I have taken it on long runs and half marathons many times and so far it hasn't affected me. It has just taken the edge of the pain away and maybe gives me peace of mind. I will exercise caution though. I certainly haven't run 26 miles after taking it! Thanks too for helping me pick my battles with where the knee pain is. I hope its nothing much to worry about but wow it does hurt while I'm running.

Fire-There is a hint of patellar tendon distress but this is mostly on the medial side of the knee and not a common feeling. Its strange to me that its in BOTH knees, same place. It seems to have something to do with my quads. In the "recovery" of my stride (regular walking). it hurts the most as I'm lifting my leg to bring it to the front. I did my dutiful "RICE" tonight and stretched my hamstrings and quads a ton. They are SUPER tight which probably has everything to do with it. I'm sure I'll be fine. It really does seem like SOMEthing always goes haywire the week before an event.
 
"knees don't exist" mantra for your run

you guys are all science-- where's the faith and the mental bend, and the ATHLETE!

smooth is fast, control, strength, fluid, willing to suffer, and knees don't exist.

stop analyzing and run

suspend evaluation
 
Don't fixate on body weight, but rather on body composition. It's your percent of bodyfat that matters. When you say your weight goes up, is it going up in fat or muscle. If muscle, don't worry about it. Eat more - 1300 calories with daily workouts is starvation mode - slow metabolism. Now when you say "I do weights 4 days a week hitting all body parts once" Do you mean you work your entire body each of the 4 days, or that by the end of the 4 days you have worked each body part once?? Entire body worked 4 times a week may be too much, especially with such little fuel. For cardio throw in a "Sprint 8" program every other run. This will boost your HGH and get that metabolism fired back up again. Then you can get back to 3000 cals/day!! :)
 
Don't fixate on body weight, but rather on body composition. It's your percent of bodyfat that matters. When you say your weight goes up, is it going up in fat or muscle. If muscle, don't worry about it. Eat more - 1300 calories with daily workouts is starvation mode - slow metabolism. Now when you say "I do weights 4 days a week hitting all body parts once" Do you mean you work your entire body each of the 4 days, or that by the end of the 4 days you have worked each body part once?? Entire body worked 4 times a week may be too much, especially with such little fuel. For cardio throw in a "Sprint 8" program every other run. This will boost your HGH and get that metabolism fired back up again. Then you can get back to 3000 cals/day!! :)

I appreciate you feedback, I've been doing this a while and do realize my calories are pretty low for my activity level and I know how that translates.

I'm an endurance athlete and I race long distance running and triathlon. That is my primary focus on these boards right now-not body weight-but who doesn't like to lose a few? Actually originally I started here for the sole purpose OF increasing calories to restore my metabolism. You'd have to read more of my journal than the last page to know that though. I changed my diet recently to try to incorporate more calories but I won't go from 1500 to 3000 all at once. My average daily calories is 1500-1600 right now and believe it or not, thats actually a huge improvement.

The only reason I've slightly shifted focus to include body weight lately is because when I increase calories I gauge the manipulation of cals based on how my body weight is generally responding. My body fat fluctuates between 16-18% consistantly.

I hardly do weights so I'm not sure where you saw the 4 days a week of lifting. I do 1-2 days max and between those days I work my entire body. I'm on a training plan for triathlon races so I don't do much sprinting in and of iteself, rather it is incorporated within a structured training program that varies depending on the season of training.

Thanks for your concern and imput
 
1 hour spin class (I kept it aerobic)
2 mile run 9:10 pace
light weights

This is the end of spin and weights for the week.
 
When is your event sparrow? this coming weekend? i hope those knees are feeling better..i am sure loosening up the quads and hammies will help a ton.

now if only i can figure out why my calf hurts! GARRRRRR
 
yeah its Sunday.

I'd go to a podiatrist. I wrestled with shin splints for a year and finally saw a podiatrist who got things done(orthotics, PT and MRI). I'm pretty sure my regular dr thought I was making it up until I got the MRI and she said "Hmm yeah, wow...hmmm you have pretty severe shin splints there!" duh
 
marathon? I'm not there just yet...not worth the hassle and time off from work i'd need.

You asking if the event is a marathon? yes it is.

Just keep an eye on the injury, its not worth "tolerating" and then realizing you should have done something sooner to avoid a more lengthy recovery.
 
You asking if the event is a marathon? yes it is.

Just keep an eye on the injury, its not worth "tolerating" and then realizing you should have done something sooner to avoid a more lengthy recovery.

Ah ok.

No I know the risks of not getting it looked at, but I also know aches and pains vs major injury and I don't feel this qualifies yet. And what will likely happen on my first trip to the doc when its an aches and pain problem? "Ice it, stretch a lot, do these exercises, ect." That right there puts me down $25 for the doctor for the referral and then another $50 for the specialist to be told to do something I am already in the process of doing.

Granted it could be something major and if this persists through the end of the month with the implementation of exercises, stretching and icing then I will get it looked at. I promise. :)
 
Ah ok.

No I know the risks of not getting it looked at, but I also know aches and pains vs major injury and I don't feel this qualifies yet. And what will likely happen on my first trip to the doc when its an aches and pain problem? "Ice it, stretch a lot, do these exercises, ect." That right there puts me down $25 for the doctor for the referral and then another $50 for the specialist to be told to do something I am already in the process of doing.

Granted it could be something major and if this persists through the end of the month with the implementation of exercises, stretching and icing then I will get it looked at. I promise. :)

Ha! yeah thats all true

Good boy ;)
 
Took today off, not intentionally but the little one (in the picture) was sick SO there went gym time.

Taper is messing with my brain-and body-but this is normal
 
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