How would you have reacted?
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Exactly. People forget there's no rules in a streetfight as well...Like Bas says "never underestimate the kick in the groin"
(by the way people, i was joking when i said i'd put him in a triangle)
I watched it, and it wasn't too disturbing. I think if I were a bystander, I wouldn't want to get involved. I would be really scared. I may call the police or something, but I wouldn't try to physically stop what was going on.
That was just a sad, sad confrontation. The woman and the man need to attend some anger management seminars or something. That's just really weird that they would flip out like that over something so little.
That was just a sad, sad confrontation. The woman and the man need to attend some anger management seminars or something. That's just really weird that they would flip out like that over something so little.
Cause how often do you get to make someone go to sleep while looking like the coolest backpack evar?
If you have it in tight, it takes like 3 seconds before the guy is choked out and i gaurantee that if you got into a streetfight the other guy would have no clue on how to defend a choke. The "windpipe choke" takes much longer than a RNC is a lot easier to defend. Seriously though, all you have to do is wait for the other guy to throw the big haymaker, move and counter strike.
This explains a little, in reference to the man getting hit by the car.
I remember when I got hit by a car, everyone came to help, they didn't know jack about first aid either, but they called the emergency number and got help from there.
I can understand it more in a fight than someone getting hit by a car, since in a fight, if you intervene, there is a chanse you will get hurt (not that that is an excuse), no one is going to punch you in the face if you help someone who's been in an accident.
I can understand it more in a fight than someone getting hit by a car, since in a fight, if you intervene, there is a chanse you will get hurt (not that that is an excuse), no one is going to punch you in the face if you help someone who's been in an accident.
You don't kill someone when you collapse the windpipe. They almost instantly pass out then it comes back into shape. A "choke" hold is almost as fast if you close up the carotid artery and disrupt blood flow to the brain. You can strike the carotid for the same effect.
A finger deep in each eye socket or clapping the ears and rupturing both eardrums would have been pretty effective too
That's what I liked about kenpo, it's basically the art of fighting dirty. In a real life or death situation anything goes
A finger deep in each eye socket or clapping the ears and rupturing both eardrums would have been pretty effective too
That's what I liked about kenpo, it's basically the art of fighting dirty. In a real life or death situation anything goes
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The groin is a decent place to hit, but that's merely based on the pain principle. If someone is full of enough adrenaline they might not even feel it. Eyes, throat, knees will stop them every time. Like my old instructor's (he didn't like "sifu" or "sensei" )father once told me ...."I've hit a lot of men....none of them got up after being hit in the throat."
Yeah, he had no fighting style, he just relied on brute strength and the other guy being frozen with fear. It would have been funny to see some 170 lb MMA guy break him down.
Well i havnt watched any of the movies (cant at work) but from what your all describing it sounds f**king pathetic.
It should be almost instinct to help someone, especially if theyve been hit by a car or something. And FFS if someone's getting the ***** kicked outta em it only takes 3 people or so just to get in the way.
Fair enough some people will be hesitant about risking their own safety etc. But if it was me n a mate or something we'd straight jump in, prob end up doing the lad in himself.
It should be almost instinct to help someone, especially if theyve been hit by a car or something. And FFS if someone's getting the ***** kicked outta em it only takes 3 people or so just to get in the way.
Fair enough some people will be hesitant about risking their own safety etc. But if it was me n a mate or something we'd straight jump in, prob end up doing the lad in himself.
I would disagree that it wasn't too disturbing. Its just as bad as the teacher student fight that happened recently. I would probably bet that the woman in the pizza video is probably subjected to violence herself with such a violent partner.
I don't think it's a problem of bad nature.
Here's my comments on the videos:
Guy in pizza place getting beat up:
* Imagine you're tired, went to the pizza place, and suddenly a fight broke out? You would be like, "WTF? All I wanted was a pizza." The last thing on your mind would be to help out some dude.
If I were in that situation, it would be dependant on how many other people are there. I wouldn't know if that big dude's friend was in line, or if that big dude had a weapon or anything. Judging by the surrounding, I would guess I would be seriously outnumbered.
However, if I saw a chance to pull the little guy out, I would. I would grab him, run him out the store, and then see how that goes. However, if the situation was me in a crowded place and I don't know anyone there, I wouldn't attempt to get in a fight that I don't know who's who.
For the guy in the hit-and-run:
* This is a unique situation: you see a guy hit by a car, what would you do? Thinking about it, the first thing I would do is get the car's number. Then my second thought would be, can I call for help? The very last thing I would do is go near the person or even attempt to help him in any way other than perhaps giving him a blanket if he requested. Even cops don't touch people who are injuried. It's a matter of safety of both yourself and the person who is injured.
I don't think the news was accurate though. I think a few people called 911 after the initial hit. You have to remember we live in a world of sue-or-be-sued. So basically if they can't find the hit-and-run car, the next person would be the person who helped the guy and it’s doubtful anyone there is a trained EMT.
I believe there is a law where you can be arrested for not helping. But I think that's very limited and easily shot down.
I do know if I ever hit someone with a car, I would not initially stop. I would continue to drive until I'm a safe distance, then call 911 and report that I hit a guy, and that I have left the area because of concern for my safety. The place was crowded and busy, again, and you do not know the situation fully. He could be in a group of people, and mob mentality can easily come into play.
In conclusion, the most important lesson in life is you don’t make hasty decisions. Stop. Think. Listen. Then react. If you just start dropping bodies, a massive, couch-sized cow crap is going to hit an industrial fan and crap is going to be raining.
Here's my comments on the videos:
Guy in pizza place getting beat up:
* Imagine you're tired, went to the pizza place, and suddenly a fight broke out? You would be like, "WTF? All I wanted was a pizza." The last thing on your mind would be to help out some dude.
If I were in that situation, it would be dependant on how many other people are there. I wouldn't know if that big dude's friend was in line, or if that big dude had a weapon or anything. Judging by the surrounding, I would guess I would be seriously outnumbered.
However, if I saw a chance to pull the little guy out, I would. I would grab him, run him out the store, and then see how that goes. However, if the situation was me in a crowded place and I don't know anyone there, I wouldn't attempt to get in a fight that I don't know who's who.
For the guy in the hit-and-run:
* This is a unique situation: you see a guy hit by a car, what would you do? Thinking about it, the first thing I would do is get the car's number. Then my second thought would be, can I call for help? The very last thing I would do is go near the person or even attempt to help him in any way other than perhaps giving him a blanket if he requested. Even cops don't touch people who are injuried. It's a matter of safety of both yourself and the person who is injured.
I don't think the news was accurate though. I think a few people called 911 after the initial hit. You have to remember we live in a world of sue-or-be-sued. So basically if they can't find the hit-and-run car, the next person would be the person who helped the guy and it’s doubtful anyone there is a trained EMT.
I believe there is a law where you can be arrested for not helping. But I think that's very limited and easily shot down.
I do know if I ever hit someone with a car, I would not initially stop. I would continue to drive until I'm a safe distance, then call 911 and report that I hit a guy, and that I have left the area because of concern for my safety. The place was crowded and busy, again, and you do not know the situation fully. He could be in a group of people, and mob mentality can easily come into play.
In conclusion, the most important lesson in life is you don’t make hasty decisions. Stop. Think. Listen. Then react. If you just start dropping bodies, a massive, couch-sized cow crap is going to hit an industrial fan and crap is going to be raining.
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It sounds like you're letting fear dictate your decisions and that's a morally bankrupt path to take. If you have the chance to prevent or limit the suffering of another you should always embrace it and take the chance to do something great.
Dallen, you would seriously keep on driving and call and report it out of fear of being beat up? If you hit someone with your car, you stop and help out. YOU hit him, if the small chanse that you get beat up for it actually happens then so be it.
I might have a different opinion because I live in a different country. You won't get sued here for trying to help someone, even if you do make it worse. Where I live you call the emergency number, tell them what's going on and they will give you guidance with what to do. There are some situations where you don't stop and think, it should be automatic, like if you hit someone with your car you stop and help out. Drive on and call it in later and blame that you were afraid of a mob mentality if you stopped at the scene would probably get you in some serious trouble with the law over here. I think you've been watching too much scare news, people don't beat others up over things like this that often. The first priority of his friends would be to help him, not to beat you up.
The guy could be dying while waiting for the medics to arrive. Let's say he passed out and he is lying in such a way that he can't breathe, all it takes is for someone to tilt his head back so his airways are opened. Even if there are 100 people standing around watching, that responsibility falls on you, because you hit him so you take charge in helping him.
as for the pizza place fight. Often the thing that is needed for a crowd to intervene is for one person to take the first step. No one wants to take the first step. Be the person who takes the first step and the rest will probably help you out.
I might have a different opinion because I live in a different country. You won't get sued here for trying to help someone, even if you do make it worse. Where I live you call the emergency number, tell them what's going on and they will give you guidance with what to do. There are some situations where you don't stop and think, it should be automatic, like if you hit someone with your car you stop and help out. Drive on and call it in later and blame that you were afraid of a mob mentality if you stopped at the scene would probably get you in some serious trouble with the law over here. I think you've been watching too much scare news, people don't beat others up over things like this that often. The first priority of his friends would be to help him, not to beat you up.
The guy could be dying while waiting for the medics to arrive. Let's say he passed out and he is lying in such a way that he can't breathe, all it takes is for someone to tilt his head back so his airways are opened. Even if there are 100 people standing around watching, that responsibility falls on you, because you hit him so you take charge in helping him.
as for the pizza place fight. Often the thing that is needed for a crowd to intervene is for one person to take the first step. No one wants to take the first step. Be the person who takes the first step and the rest will probably help you out.
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That's true.
Honestly, I don't know what I would do. If it went on for a long time, perhaps I would try to do something after looking around seeing if anyone is cheering the person on which would clearly indicate who to look out.
If it was someone I knew, I would punch the woman in the left one and toss a hot pizza at the big dude's face and then kick him in the balls before running out.
Honestly, I don't know what I would do. If it went on for a long time, perhaps I would try to do something after looking around seeing if anyone is cheering the person on which would clearly indicate who to look out.
If it was someone I knew, I would punch the woman in the left one and toss a hot pizza at the big dude's face and then kick him in the balls before running out.
I don't mean like driving 10 miles. I mean like drive up the block at a distance away.
It's better to keep violence at more than arm's length. I would not say that I'm fearful of people violently reaction. I would just be more careful to avoid unneeded conflicts. It's a difference. There were several times where someone accidentally hit someone, then ended up in a fight where they were killed. However, I do not mean to say that I would just floor it and drive 20 miles then call for help. No, maximum, I would drive about a block away, still on the same street and then call for help and explain that I am not near the person but on the same street and if a group of people came near me, I would leave. I don't know anything about first aid, nor do I know what to do if I hit a person with a car.
Realistically, I would probably stop the car right there, and be in complete shock.