Firing-Up the Spirit Between Members
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A member with "professional credentials" from an accredited or established diet/fitness institution that would be "appropriate" in the context of the subject matter we are discussing.
I believe this "could" lead "potentially" to an unfair advantage. Again, the trainer even in this situation, is only as good as the person applying what is advised and planned for.
However.........
This is not saying that two "professionals" could square off one on one with their participating member (woe---> to the wise one, that see's personal benefit)---that would be more even......but....I have some minor complications with this. And, we could just leave this one out completely, and suggest it is left out.
Best wishes
Chillen
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But aren't the professional trainers the most qualified. I'm not bragging because I'm CLEARLY not the end all and be all of trainers. But I believe that creditted trainers should be excluded just because they chose to pursue their passion and make a career out of it.
I don't mean to start any trouble because it's only my first day on the site, but I would love the opportunity to work pro-bono with someone to help them achieve their goals.
I don't mean to start any trouble because it's only my first day on the site, but I would love the opportunity to work pro-bono with someone to help them achieve their goals.
I am agreeing with you. They SHOULD be excluded.
This would include TM as a trainer participating, but not assisting in trying to form the foundation and rules to make it work.
ADMIN/MOD support in this is going to be CRITICAL.
That was a typo on my part
I meant they shouldn't be excluded.
I mean...if you are ready to take on an online 'client' and watch him/her success, then props to you. You have >6500 posts to your credit. You clearly know what you're talking about. You also have >15 years on me.
The only thing that separates you and I are some letters after my name. So why can't I help out for fun?
That was a typo on my part
I meant they shouldn't be excluded.
I mean...if you are ready to take on an online 'client' and watch him/her success, then props to you. You have >6500 posts to your credit. You clearly know what you're talking about. You also have >15 years on me.
The only thing that separates you and I are some letters after my name. So why can't I help out for fun?
I do not agree with you.
1. Just because one has professional "credentials" in a field, doesnt "necessarily" qualify them as being "a competent professional in their chosen field". There are bozo the clowns with credentials.
2. This would be asking one of our fine professional trainers to offer services for free.
3. Most importantly, I believe it leaves the playing field unncessarily unfair.
4. READ my "second" point in my orginal post (On this discussion)
5. Post count doesnt mean squat---for determining intelligence in a person; however, the "quality and content" within the post count DO tell a story left open to individual perception.
6. I believe the professional trainers/admin/mods can act as a sort of "supervisor" when they have time..........and the logistics can be discussed and agreed......if implemented........The mod/admin who is not a trainer, can participate as well, but there needs to be some form of proper supervision (if everything is left in the open)......we are adults....so we may not need this......
7. A trainer can be the one to overlook the results and make the decision on who wins.
And I could go on and on
Chillen
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Read the "second" portion of my post on the subject matter.....to bring in a different discussion construction........
I didnt completely eliminate trainers. I gave TWO views. One for it and one against it.........
Please read again.
So what is the general feeling........allowed or not?
One sees no unfair competition between say: TM (with BIG T) and Shayner (Kraken)? With TM and Shayner as trainers?
This is an extreme example, but......we get the idea? On how careful we have to be in our selections--with or without trainers
involved?
Would could just set off different TEAM SETS.......if you get what I am saying.....
Chillen
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I don't really see the harm in professionals participating. As long as things are kept civil, and not excessively complicated. But that's just me. I think having them "compete" by proxy (through their athletes) would be kind of fun.
I mean for someone like myself I'm not really sure they would have much to do at all except chime in with the occasional, "You can dooo eeet!" But even so, that's a contribution.
And if they're willing to offer their services for free, then why should they be prevented from doing so? Is it really any different than answering questions or otherwise offering advice in forum threads? And even if it is, I don't believe such exchanges are one-way.
I mean for someone like myself I'm not really sure they would have much to do at all except chime in with the occasional, "You can dooo eeet!" But even so, that's a contribution.
And if they're willing to offer their services for free, then why should they be prevented from doing so? Is it really any different than answering questions or otherwise offering advice in forum threads? And even if it is, I don't believe such exchanges are one-way.
Speaking for me, I WOULD LOVE to square off with another trainer---lets get it on brotha/sista. "Lets get ready to rumble!" I will give them a run for there money, he, he (JUST KIDDING!)
Seriously though:
I am speaking just in "general fairness" and level playing field.
If we can work it out and agree. I am all for it......agreeing is the key and essential thing here.
Best wishes,
Chillen
I will give them a run for there money, he, he (JUST KIDDING!)Seriously though:
I am speaking just in "general fairness" and level playing field.
If we can work it out and agree. I am all for it......agreeing is the key and essential thing here.
Best wishes,
Chillen
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I don't want to train, I want someone to train me. Chillen how about it? Guide me through chillenism! lmao..
Seriously though, I think it'd be fine if the 'professionals' had a 'side pot' so to say. I'll judge the final outcome, but I'm unsure of how to set it up. I spend enough time 'training' evo, telling him to put the hostess cake down, step away from the champagne of beers, and go throw somethin.
Seriously though, I think it'd be fine if the 'professionals' had a 'side pot' so to say. I'll judge the final outcome, but I'm unsure of how to set it up. I spend enough time 'training' evo, telling him to put the hostess cake down, step away from the champagne of beers, and go throw somethin.
Haha, you're funny. I mean, two people are getting free, quality coaching and the all-important moral support and external accountability, and you're worried that someone is going to complain about it being unfair? Np, just ban whoever's whining.
Imo, the prize is the journey, not the destination, as they say.
P.S. Please don't ban me. XD
LOL. Handing your mistress is a difficult task.
Seriously though:
Okay.........general feeling thus far........correct where wrong:
1. Trainers can go against another trainer? IF they are willing to volunteer there FREE TIME. (I think it WISE in the business sense any hoot).
2. Non-trainers go against non trainers.
3. However, lets not forget its really about the member with the goal, just leveling the playing field in WHOM the trainer is.
4. Mreik can referee/judge/supervise a group
Okay thus far?
Chillen
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Haha, you're funny. I mean, two people are getting free, quality coaching and the all-important moral support and external accountability, and you're worried that someone is going to complain about it being unfair? Np, just ban whoever's whining.
Imo, the prize is the journey, not the destination, as they say.
P.S. Please don't ban me. XD
You see no quality problem in say for example: Tony (as trainer) with Big T as the goal person, VS. NOOB (as trainer) with Kraken as the goal person?
I do. We should attempt to prevent......blind leading the blind.....IMO. Its like setting rules in any GOOD competition.
Its like putting a featherweight against a heavyweight in boxing match.....disadvantage is obvious, but who knows...LOL.
IMO, we have to (to a degree) be concerned with "some" of the intial quality.....and the feeling of the receiver (at this point) is not relevent.
I am not saying THEY (or the participant) would complain (if I was recieving it, I wouldn't of course.)
But, I am making this point, to expose any weaknesses......
Chillen
Suggestions on my previous post, Focus?
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I agree, with Mreik. Which would point to the original post that I made today.
Those that want to be trainers, make it known in a post, so we can collect names and make a list.
Good point, boss.
Additionally, those that have goals and want to be the goal person (and want to be assisted in their goal) please post specifiying so. This way we can collect names, and make a list.
I know we have some now. So, sign up. And we will review and make updated lists.
Mreik:
Final lists.....go where?
Competition set go where?
(read my first post--TODAY-- on suggestions I made, and let me know what you think, please)
I will quote it here for your convenience:
EDIT: I do have a fear of the numbers not being even--enough--to provide equal pairing, and someone being left out of the competition set between the goal members, and enough trainers in the pairing.
We just have to see how the numbers turn out and see how it develops.
Chillen
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