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Morning All.....

Its so encouraging to read that everyone is doing so well:)

I have a question which i hope someone can help with with....

I've just finished my 2nd week with NO deviations and following the plan 100%, in my first week i lost 20.5cm (wohoo) but this week it was very minimal...9.5cm but it was from my arms and upper & lower thigh, nothing from my bust or waist. Thankfully i didnt put any cm's on.

I havent weighed myself though i was going to do that monthly, should i perhaps weigh myself?:confused:

As many people in previous post's have said " a small loss is better than a gain"

Has anyone had the same experience.

Wishing you all a great day:)
 
Tape measure blues

Hiya Narn - WOW!!! you have lost HEAPS!!! 9.5cm in one week is phenominal, don't be discouraged, it is an awesome loss. That first week must have just about blown your socks off but you may need to buy smaller socks cuz they will be blown off pretty regularly! Our losses vary from week to week, so it is hard to compare them - best advice - dont. Just enjoy every single gram, ounce, pound, kilo and centimetre as it vamooses forever. You are doing a fantastic job!!

I hope everyone is having a special day... thankyou Gayegel for your thoughts and invitation it is warmly accepted ... lets lash out and have TWO black teas eh? hehehe ... what rebels!!!

I had yet another lovely experience today - I was walking back from the post office and a lady who I don't know very well grabbed me and told me how great I was looking. How awesome!! She said she has been meaning to tell me for ages. Gives you a great glow inside when that kind of things happens doesn't it.

It is so easy for us all to forget how far we have come - whether our journey is merely days or even months old we all need to pat ourselves on the back.

One thing I find really hard is to not approach other large people and share my secret with them ... I guess that would make me a cellulite mormon. :p

Have a truly special day everyone.

Leanne :)
 
...9.5cm in one week is phenominal, don't be discouraged, it is an awesome loss.

Because I am on the internet program, I didnt get any instructions on how to measure myself. When you say you lost 9.5cm...where are the points you measure with?


To my embarrasment at the start of the diet I wanted to measure my waist the only tape measure I had was 1 meter long, it couldn't go around my waist :eek: I guess my waist was 120cm (46~48in) at the start of the program.:eek: Anyway I am looking forward to the day (next month) when that 1 meter tape measure will be enough!!!! ;)
 
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---Whooo---whooo---Let's all dance----Whooo---whooo---Let's all dance---

MY PROGRAM ARRIVED!! I AM OFFICIAL! No more practice days! From here on out we are 100% true Cohenite! (That beats cellulite everytime!)

The compliments ya'll are getting is so great! Due to my most recent body "expansion pack" I added on - I figure I probably have at least three months before I have anyone dare say a word to me - I have at least 50k to lose before I travel on new territory - the first 50k is just getting me back to my previously fat self - instead of the newer morbidly fat self - and I don't think people know how to say - " Wow - you no longer look morbidly obese you just look fat now!" But hey - if they do-- I WILL take it as a compliment!!

I was slightly hungry this evening - looking forward to breakfast tomorrow! It will be day three. Is it alright to eat a fruit before you eat breakfast? For me and my schedule it would work really well if i had a fruit early and ate breakfast around 10 - after I get all the kids off to school and the babies fed. It also makes the lunch and dinner hit at times where I am finished helping others and can focus on me. It also will help me not feel as hungry in the evening - I keep a late schedule (teenagers like to talk - but usually its late at night).

Well - that's all for now -
Momma Pajama
 
Is it alright to eat a fruit before you eat breakfast? For me and my schedule it would work really well if i had a fruit early and ate breakfast around 10 - after I get all the kids off to school and the babies fed. It also makes the lunch and dinner hit at times where I am finished helping others and can focus on me. It also will help me not feel as hungry in the evening - I keep a late schedule (teenagers like to talk - but usually its late at night).

Well - that's all for now -
Momma Pajama


Well you can eat crackers and fruit anytime you like (but not all at once). (PS. There was discussion latter that this is not correct, before breakfast is not allowed)
However you have to keep meals around 5 hours apart (at least 5 hours) so if you eat meal-1 at 10am then you need to wait until 3pm for meal 2 and 8pm for meal 3.

I can recommend the yogurt and fruit breakfast...for me it is the biggest meal of the day and a great way to start the day. 1 apple or peach, add your yogurt allowance, with some sweatener, it doenst take long and you can prepare and eat in 5~10minutes
 
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Momma Pajama

well done on receiving your program, you are one step closer to being a new woman!

don't worry about people saying you've gone from morbidly obese to just fat- people that care about you will probably be saying stuff like "you're looking much healthier, good work so far!" and "you're glowing and looking much happier" and "wow you have alot of energy these days" etc. etc. don't focus on the negative or the big picture, think of the benefits of a lifestyle change now like better skin, more energy, no cravings, new lifestyle and my favorite- seratonin! it has only hit me today how exciting it will be to receive this stuff naturally. It's like Christmas for a small child momma pajama if you anticipate it it will take forever if you take one day at a time it will be here in no time at all! also don't forget that your family will benefit so much as well from day one being the mother and I'm guessing the cook/cleaner/counsellor/etc. etc. in their lives without knowing it you will impact their lives too by being able to guide them to make healthy choices- that is the best gift a parent can give to their children

good luck and stay positive!
 
Hey Everyone!

Just a quick post to release some anger...

MY FAMILY IS HAVING KFC FOR DINNER TONIGHT... ARGGGGH!!!!


Bugger it, bugger it.. why cant they have mince & cabbage aswell hehe

Arr well, im doing well and am not going to get into a Size 12 eating KFC now am i?

Best of luck all you newbies, and congrats to everyone else for being so good!! Hang in there.. summer's round the corner! x
 
I've been reading the forum for the past few weeks and I just love the meaningful posts, especially from lessfatty & momma pajama. I'm all the way behind you guys! :)

Since starting on 18th August, I've lost about 10 kilos so far. I feel that my loss is slowing down as of late, sometimes losing only about 1.4kgs a week. It is pretty slow, considering I have not deviated once, am drinking at least 3 litres of water everyday and I'm still pretty far from my goal weight. This has caused me much frustration and worry. I am tempted to exercise but I don't know if that's a good idea.

On the subject of compliments, a couple of my friends are truly encouraging and happy for me. The rest of them pretend not to notice or just say that I look different somehow (but can't put their finger on it). One of my best friends constantly says she can't see any difference in me, which is hurtful because everyone I know have noticed something. I know she probably feels threatened as she looks like a model and is constantly getting attention from men, but it's not as if I'm going to go round stealing her limelight! I wonder how will our friendship change when I'm finally down to my GW. It's sad how people think that once you look different, you become everything you wanted to be previously but couldn't, and threaten their positions as "queen/king".
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Momma Pajama;113828 Is it alright to eat a fruit before you eat breakfast? Momma Pajama[/QUOTE said:
Hi Momma

Actually, No.

The fruit and crispbread are carbohydrates, and will cause an insulin release.

Please make sure you address all these technical questions to your consultant. If they haven't explained to you how this program works make sure that they do.

The Cohen's program is not just about food reduction. Any mug can drop to a minimal calorie intake. This program is about stimulating the metabolism of the body through manipulation of the pituitary gland.

It is most important that breakfast is eaten as soon as possible after waking. It is vital that you have protein meals at minimum intervals of five hours to ensure that there is no mixing of proteins in the stomach.

If you do not have time to 'eat breakfast' but have time to 'eat something', then may I suggest that you prepare whichever of the three meal groups you are going to eat as 'breakfast' the night before eg cook a casserole which just needs zapping in the microwave and can be eaten with minimal preparation. I found that an omelette was quick and easy. A non-stick frying pan with a lid became my best friend. I could put the vegetables into the pan, put the lid on, do something else for the ten minutes while the vegetables cooked on a low heat, then whisk an egg, pour over the vegetables, put the lid back on, do something else, then eat the omelette / frittata.

Otherwise, yoghurt and fruit takes one minute to scoop out of the tub straight into the bowl on the scales.

Eat the fruit and crispbread as a mid morning snack, but breakfast must be protein based to block the insulin release.


Regarding eating 'late', make sure that you do not eat too close to bedtime, and equally, make sure that you do not miss any meals.

It is too easy to impose our bad habits - which are the habits which have got us into this mess - on to the program.

The program is a finely balanced piece of machinery. If the doctor said 'take one tablet three times per day' that means one tablet, at three separate times, across the waking hours of the day. That does not mean take three tablets whenever you get around to it.

The food is your medicine. If it was in capsules we could recognise it as such. Just because the medicine may be egg or meat or zucchini or apples does not make it any less 'what the Doctor ordered'.

Please take the time to thoroughly read through the program and do it at least every couple of days in the early stages of the program and at least once a week over the months ahead.

The program is about using the food, it is not actually about the food.

You can and will lose weight and probably lose weight amazingly fast on the Cohen's program, but it must be followed 100% and that means understanding why certain foods are included and why meals are organised in the groupings that they are.

It's an amazing program and very flexible provided that it is followed appropriately.

Momma, the human body is predominantly water, then protein, then our chemistry goes down from there.

We have to have lots of water on this program to assist our body do the work. I lost 28 litres of liquid fat - 25 litres in 20 weeks. We have to have the protein in measured doses to stimulate and control the hormonal responses. This is not about just reducing food intake, it is about massaging and manipulating the body back into correct functioning condition.


Sorry if the tone of this post is somewhat 'stern'. It is important to encourge each other but that doesn't mean encouragement should just be froth and bubble. Please read the program notes and make sure your consultants earn their keep!


You're off to a great start. Make sure you have lots of 'fat' photos as you will never look this way again.

Best wishes

Chelsea

By the way, there is a maximum of two crispbread to be eaten at any time and a minimum of 2 & half hours between eating crispbread.
 
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Can i just ask you all. Does anyone do any excercise on the program? If so, anything in particular that might help the weight loss?
Thanks
 
Fat girl

I walk an hour everyday because it is the best exercise for fat burning and not bulking up, having said that I am yet to start the program (i start on tuesday) and my consultant said I can continue to walk but if I start to feel hungry to stop or take it down a notch. Mind you walking that much hasn't worked for me so far I just do it cos it vents my stress. It is not advised to start exercising if you didn't previously but maybe walk half hour a day and take it easy see what happens. Also I have read previous threads and some of the ladys have reduced salt intake, and drank more water or slowly, day by day eliminated their cracker allowance to speed up the weight loss. However if someone else has any better advice feel free because as I said I am yet to start the program yet have the same fear as you that it won't happen quick enough so these are a few things I myself may try over time. Good luck with it all by the way have you started the program yet? I can't wait I am in much anticipation
xx
 
Since starting on 18th August, I've lost about 10 kilos so far. I feel that my loss is slowing down as of late, sometimes losing only about 1.4kgs a week. It is pretty slow, considering I have not deviated once, am drinking at least 3 litres of water everyday and I'm still pretty far from my goal weight. This has caused me much frustration and worry. I am tempted to exercise but I don't know if that's a good idea.



I started on the 30 July, after the first 14 days, I have lost a steady 1.52KG/week on average (I weigh myself every morning). I cannot say that I am 100% compliant, 99% maybe, unfortunately I have to eat out occasionally for business/family at those times I order as best I can Cohen foods and guessimate the food weights.

I understand some lose at a higher rate than me, but 6~7KG/month is fine for me, of course if I lost 10/month it would be great. But I just enjoy each and every loss as it occurs. However I think any more than 1KG/week is just great!

I dont "exercise" as a rule, but I decided to be as active as possible, walking, cycle when possible rather than car, more physical activities with family etc. So I recommend to focus on *regular physical activity*; if I think like that I dont feel guilty when work/family dont give me enough time to exercise "correctly".
 
Thanks Mermaid Sister.....
I have been walking and doing Yoga for some time and i am like you in that i need the excercise to get away from the daily grind and stress..... so i don't think it will have a huge impact.

I have not started the program yet because i pick it up tomorrow! yay! I am so looking forward to going shopping and buying all the right food - sorry "medicine" for my body...

More so, i am more excited about having a BBQ this weekend at my place for my friends. They think i am being nice.... but i am actually cleaning out my pantry and fridge. getting rid of all the foods i can not eat on Cohens....

You know i had the strangest thing happen to me today. It is funny just how people react to you when you are onto something good. A really good friend of mine noticed that i had stopped all the fatty foods and knows i am to start a new lifestyle soon. When she asked me, i told her that this was going to be the final diet i do and becuase i am going to try so hard, i know that i will get there.... You know, it was really funny because she did not seem to be pleased for me. I think she sort of liked it when i was not very confident because it probably made her feel better about herself. That kinda upset me. And reading all your posts, i can see that others have had some wierd reactions too from other people around them.

To make myself feel better about giving up that glass (or bottle) of wine on a friday night after work, i have decided that i am going to reward myself. With every KG i lose, i am going to put away $20.00 in a draw. (This will not be hard because i have just given up smoking and drinking and soon food. Actually the smoking was very hard to give up and i am still getting there, but i am saving so much money!). When i reach my goal weight, i should have $$$$$$ set aside to buy some much needed new clothes.... if i can, every time i reach a 10kg drop, i am going to put away $50.00 instead.... that's for my holiday to QLD in my new bikini! I figured that i will not be going out for drinks, dinner, tea, coffee or anything, at least i will look good in 4-6 months.

I am so excited. once i pick up the program tomorrow, i know it will become real
 
Singaporean Cohen Dieters!!! When are we going to meet up again? I was a bit slack for the past few weeks due to heavy workload in my office lately but I am absolutely ready to focus on the diet again@!!!!!
 
Fat girl

I know what you mean, I am so eager to get my program I wish it would come earlier! all I can do now is prepare and thanks to lessfatty I have been doing so and lost a kilo! wow haven't done that it about 2years! mind you had a planned binge the other night to get it out of my system so I've prob gained it again. I too will miss my friday night red, and my saturday vodka and my sunday night counter meal (my only unhealthy meal all week) but I have the clothes I just need the ass for them! which is good cos I have a nice credit card debt from forking out for HUGE clothing so its good to know I'll save money by not having to buy new clothes once I'm there. However I will be tempted once I am small so will have to cancel the credit card I think! I have my designer jeans hanging on my bedroom door and I lie awake at night and look at them longingly.... ah! I just want to start the program already and have the weight fall off *frustration* anyway good luck tomorrow, I'm rootn' for ya girl!

ps I haven't conquered the smoking part yet, baby steps and I'll need something in the first month or so to distract from the not eating
 
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One thing I find really hard is to not approach other large people and share my secret with them ... I guess that would make me a cellulite mormon. :p

What u said above is so true! Nowadays when I see an overweight lady, I really feel like going forward and share cohen with them....but worried that I might scared them off as one of those paranoid direct-marketing people!
 
Actually, No.

The fruit and crispbread are carbohydrates, and will cause an insulin release.

Please make sure you address all these technical questions to your consultant. If they haven't explained to you how this program works make sure that they do.

The Cohen's program is not just about food reduction. Any mug can drop to a minimal calorie intake. This program is about stimulating the metabolism of the body through manipulation of the pituitary gland.

It is most important that breakfast is eaten as soon as possible after waking. It is vital that you have protein meals at minimum intervals of five hours to ensure that there is no mixing of proteins in the stomach.

Good advise, thanks Chelsea.

Momma is on the internet program the same as myself in my opinion the email "consultants" are not so helpfull as real consultants (or as this forum), we have a guide book to read, that is all.

I read the internet program guide and it says "Your daily fruit and crackers can be eaten with any of the meals or in between meals". My first impression of that sentences meaning is that up to one fruit and one serving of crackers can be eaten anytime so long as you then have one meal in between eg. after dinner and before breakfast, I had assumed I could if I wanted eat fruit and crackers at 5am should that take my fancy. However clearly the correct interpretation of the sentence is that we should only eat fruit and/or crackers at meal time or between breakfast and lunch or between lunch and dinner (or maybe just after dinner?) Thanks Chelsea for pointing this out...and the fact that good consultants are important on the program as it is a fine balancing act.

...not that that effects me I always have fruit with my breakfast :)


The program also says "Keep a 5 hour minimum interval between meals" and
"You last meal for the day must end no latter than 9 p.m." ...That is the guides grammer not mine "You" not "Your" :rolleyes: This makes good sense as you would have fully digested the last protein meal in 5 hours (Fruits and crackers would however spend very little time in your stomach before being moved on and/or absorbed...as Chelsea suggests causing the insulin spike)

For me I have found the steak (rare) and tuna (sashimi style raw or marginally grilled) the most filling for the longest time, I love the cheese, but 2 hours after eating a cheese meal I get really hungry...then I have 3 hours of being hungry waiting for the next meal! Lunch at work is microwaved chicken and vegetable soups I prepare and freeze on weekends.

Amino-acids are the building blocks of proteins, just as sugar is the building block of starches). One amino acid Tryptophan is used by our bodies (modified) to create the brain chemical serotonin!!!
One key point with this program is that all the foods on the list are either rich sources or extreamly rich sources of the amino-acid tryptophan.

Well tomorrow I will take another blood test to check how I am going, my bad Cholesterol went up after starting the program, so I am keen to see if it was just a case of lot of waste being dumped into my system at the start of the diet (I lost 7KG in the first 2 weeks), and that now I am stable with low fat, low carb intake the bad Cholesterol has been flushed from my system.
 
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less fatty

You are so learned! I love reading your posts thanks so much for being so educated on this stuff cos its totally beyond me but very exciting to learn where this precious seratonin comes from because I am really needing some!

hope all is well with the blood test tomorrow, take care
 
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