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Hello Everyone!

My daughter recieved her program today but I haven't heard back from them on my Doc approval yet - regardless my daughter and I decided to start today anyway. I might be off a few grams on the food but certainly that can't be worse than what I could be eating otherwise. I really am anticipating recieving my program today or tomorrow anyhow -

It is all the small victories that I am so looking forward to! The one's that other's don't even know about and can't even comprehend because unless you are "morbidly obese" (I totally hate having that phrase used in association with me) you would never have to deal with these issues - like heat rash between fat rolls - or having to sleep sitting up because the weight of your chest makes it hard to breathe - or having to ask for a seat belt extension on the airplane - I am only 5'1" tall (sorry don't know the conversion for down under - ) basically I am very short - which means at my weight I am basically a little ball with two feet (that are very ball like currently) two hands, and a bump on top (my head). I no longer have a visible neck - (I was very sad to see it go) Yes - that is what I am really looking forward to - welcoming back body parts that have been lost in this bubble.

Being obese is HARD WORK! It's hard to get up - it's hard to get down - it's hard to move - it's hard to get dressed - it's mentally and emotionally hard to live - it takes extreme courage just to face another day - l look forward to not having to be so courageous - I look forward to being able to just go to the store and buy something if I need it and not have to be brave knowing that I will be seen by others and having to debate if I really need it enough to face people in this fat body.

I look forward to being able to sit in a booth instead of having to request a table. I look forward to having people treat me like an intelligent person again - because I didn't grow stupid just because I got fat - so why do I get treated differently now? I look forward to wearing necklaces without having to worry about how long the chain is unless it matters for the outfit.

There are so many things I look forward to - yes - so very many - my first goal - get back to a weight that my scale will register! Because, today I have to be extra brave and find a public scale to get my beginning weight taken on.

Looking forward to living life again (instead of enduring it!)

Momma Pajama
 
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Hey Guys,

? and I noticed you guys talking about crackers alot, which kind? (eg. low fat, high fibre etc?) I'm huge on wholemeal stuff cheers
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HI MermaidSister

for those of us following the program in Australia our crispbread are:
Vita-Weat (original or cracked pepper only - sandwich size is equivalent to 2 crispbread

Paradise Lite (Wholemeal or white) Can't remember who,but someone has emailed their consultant asking about these, as apparently there has been a slight change to PL ingredients. And they now have Vive in name.

1 Rice cake (thin) or 1 Ryvita in place of 2 crispbread

That's directly out of the Eating Plan.

luck
slinkee
 
Just a Ticker update!!

Hey all,

Really great to know all the wonderful and successful experiences that all of you have... Well just a ticker update..... lost have been slow but i am not gaining!!!!
Work stress and problems at home are getting over me.. really working hard to make sure i dun break down and start to eat food that i should not be eating.. well i still do not have the urge to deviate.. still sticking to my plan...
:)

Been feeling a bit loss in my life.. guess i would need time to pick myself up again!!!
 
Halleluiah

I just had to write and let you all know that I have just dropped my son off at school, and one of the mothers came up to me and said "Oh my God, I can't believe how much weight you have lost, you look fantastic". Well, I got the biggest rush, I had an outer body experience for a minute, watching myself hugging this women and saying yes, yes yes, I have lost weight, thankyou. But no, I stayed very composed and thanked her for noticing, but inside I was screaming with delight!!!!! Just had to share, I can't believe how good it made me feel!!!!!!!

Chelsea - Congratulations on how far you have come, and thankyou for sharing your wonderful story with us, you are an inspiration. I too drank out of habit everyday, and have not missed it one little bit!

Momma Pajama - your post left me with a tear in my eye. I have only lost 11kgs and know what a difference this has made to my health and my confidence, I have always had issues with going out, because I was never happy with the way I look. I am a bubbly happy person when I am out and people always think I ooze confidence. No-one has ever known what I go through just to go and do the grocery shopping!!! My husband has always joked that no-one knows he is married because they never see us together. I have chosen to lose weight not just to look good and become healthier (although these are important to me) but to be a fantastic wife and mother who spends time with her family instead of indoors hiding while the rest of my family go to the park or ride their bikes. With every pound you lose you will become stronger both physically and mentally and those body parts that you said goodbye to will come back to greet you with a vengeance!! I look forward to following your journey with you!!!
 
G'day Everyone,

Princessoz - How uplifting for you! Congratulations! I am looking forward to being complimented again. Keeps you motivated no doubt?

Momma Pajama - I think you touched everyone's heart with your very personal story and struggle. Thanks for being brave enough to share it with us. Much of it rings true with so many of us. I competely understand that people start treating you as though with each kilo you gained you lost 1kilo of brain matter - why does overweight equate to being dumb??? Most frustrating. I am so excited for you as you begin your journey. I/We all look forward to reading your entries and hope we can help you along the way.

Babyegg - Cheer up! I hope you are feeling better. You are still on the program and still losing. You will get there.

As for me, I have had my first deviation, (sound familiar Princessoz!!!) It has been 4 and a half weeks and to my credit I have been extremely vigilant. However, yesterday caught me off guard and I slipped up at lunch time. I was feeling absolutely terrible and the thought of eating repulsed me, not to mention the pain it was going to cause my throat. So, I opened a tin of creamy country chicken soup and devoured it! And I don't feel too bad. I figured I had to eat something and I really enjoyed it and felt better for it. I am amazed at how well I was able to control myself. I am giving Cohen's the credit for this. I manged to have only a small serve and gave the rest to the kids. I was happy and content and I didn't eat it all just because it was there. I am back on track today and don't feel as though I will slip up again.
I feel strong!

So, I hope some of my vibes are reaching those of you having a struggle today. You'll get through and be kind to yourself.

Thanks for listening...
 
Mermaid Sister-
p.s I really really wanna be wearing those sass and bides to my xmas relly bash so as to tell my snobby grandparents to blow it out their ass, because all they ever tell me is how fat i've become!
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Hahaha i will also be saying the same to some of my relies come xmas.. They can be so cruel sometimes cant they? Ive always been told i was getting fat and it really hurts that time of year especially because all you want to do is have a good xmas without people looking at everything you eat and thinking "you really dont need that!!"..

You know what i used to always get.. "Your too pretty to be fat" haha how nice is that! Really boosts the confordience.. or "You could do modeling oneday if you wernt so chubby".. Hrmm wait till they all see me at xmas time.. Size 12 and happy... hahahaha who'll be laughing then!

Princessoz- GUESS WHAT!!!???- I fit into a Size 14 now!! So stoked! hehe Its really strange my body.. I have 17kg's left to shed and im fitting into a size 14 now... my aim is a size 12.. and apparently its something like 8 or so kg's a dress size? So if i have 17kg's to go to get into a 12.. arr forget it im confussed hehe. Hope you are well and going great guns :)

I havent been on the forum in a little while, been really busy at work and im trying to catch up with all the new posts and all the newbies to the forum :) Im so glad to see you all making a fantastic lifestyle change with joining Cohen's.. ive said it before and i will say it again.. COHEN'S IS A GOD SEND! You will not be dissapointed! Stick to it 110%.. dont think.. arr its only a little bit it wont hurt, because IT WILL!!!

Take care everyone, keep on keeping on (as they say!) hehe
 
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Momma Pajama



your post also brought a tear to my eye, but know that you ARE brave, brave for sharing your experiences with all of us and I have every beleif that you will conquer this.

I know exactly what you mean when you say people treat you differently, I was once thin and it just makes me sick how differently people treat you when your bigger. What is it about being overweight that makes a person any less worthy? I challenge the misconception of the way females in particular should look everyday studying film because I think it contributes to so many problems. We are expected to be excellent mothers, daughters, employees, students and people yet we should all be perfect looking too? it's alot to live up to just for everyone else. I want to do it for me and those close to me who think I am any less of a person because I am 'more' don't deserve to have a relationship of any kind with me.

However I beleive that being overweight humbles people and when they do get to a healthy size for themselves, they remain not judgemental of those who aren't perfect and its more people like that we need in the world.

ps well done to everyone's acomplishments today, I am waiting to have my blood test this arvo and I'm fasting and STARVING! plus had to have emergency pill today :( feeling very hormonal

pps. I have to tell you all how great it is to share, sorry for rambling on
 
it's all about slinkee

Oh My Lord, i just had my first compliment.:D :eek:

I hardly even know these people, I've been into the shop a few times to buy supplements and protein for my man, and chatted with them, but they don't know me.

and I was in today, and the girl said to me "you've lost weight haven't you?"
it was so nice, I couldn't stop grinning :) And the naturopath was walking past as she said and she said "i'm not really eavesdropping, but you have lost weight haven't you?"

so hopefully when I see my mother on the weekend she'll see a difference too.

that's all for now
cyaz
slinkee
 
Slinkee & Princessoz- Doesnt it feel incrediable when people start to notice all the hard work we have done! :) Well done, keep it up and soon they will be saying "WOW YOU LOOK FANTASTIC!!!" I know my weight-loss is really starting to show and i cant get enough of the compliements that are coming my way, such a great feeling :)
 
Momma Pajama said:
Being obese is HARD WORK! It's hard to get up - it's hard to get down - it's hard to move - it's hard to get dressed - it's mentally and emotionally hard to live - it takes extreme courage just to face another day - l look forward to not having to be so courageous - I look forward to being able to just go to the store and buy something if I need it and not have to be brave knowing that I will be seen by others and having to debate if I really need it enough to face people in this fat body.

I look forward to being able to sit in a booth instead of having to request a table. I look forward to having people treat me like an intelligent person again - because I didn't grow stupid just because I got fat - so why do I get treated differently now? I look forward to wearing necklaces without having to worry about how long the chain is unless it matters for the outfit.

There are so many things I look forward to - yes - so very many - my first goal - get back to a weight that my scale will register! Because, today I have to be extra brave and find a public scale to get my beginning weight taken on.

Looking forward to living life again (instead of enduring it!)

Momma Pajama
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Your words and the emotions behind those words very moving to me; and I am a guy who enjoys such emotionally dead movies as "Die Hard", "Kickboxer" and "Fight Club" :)

It certainly not just women who get looked down upon by others when they are overweight, and certainly once past a certain point, you are considered less intelligent and lack self control when you are overweight. However for women the social level at which you cross the border from normal to "fat and stupid" seems to be set at a lower than for a man.


Anyway like everyone on this forum you have decided that enough is enough and that you will take action to reduce your weight. It will not be easy, particularly the first week, but nothing in adult life is easy. However clearly by following the plan you will get your life back on track. You wont need to be 50KG to start living life better actually when you drop the first -1KG to 149KG your life will be getting better, because you have regained control.

I think this is one aspect little discussed on the Cohen program YOU ARE IN PUT BACK IN CONTROL OF YOUR WEIGHT AND HOW YOU LOOK! You are released from feeling out of control and you are put back in control, little by little, day by day everything improves. This is partially the reason I think that forum members seem to get emotional when they "deviate" as they are in effect losing "control" ; "diviation = loss of control".

I think we all became overweight because we each made small mistakes in our daily diet. This small mistakes over months, over YEARS; accumulated and compounded to create our fat selves. Our mistake was not pigging out Christmas day or icecream with the kids at the beach, may be our only mistake was just having a little too big serve of potatoes or a little too much rice or a little too much bread or a little too much pasta, or an extra beer or buying the larger latte. The key point was we all probably a just a little too much of some starchy foods almost every day, starting our bodies fat farm/factory...resulting in a disaster! Daily small mistakes that accumulate into obesity rather than what society somehow believes (and wants us to believe) we have a total blow out in self control due to low intelligence.

On the Cohen diet I read the following .
""I lost 330 lbs (150 kg) in 10 months. My stress levels are down and I have so much more energy at work!"
Entrepreneur and Customer from Birmingham (UK).
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A person who lost 150KG, I really believe it is possible for you to lose 100KG!
 
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Bam - WELL DONE, I am so happy for you and proud of you, I am feeling your excitement for you.
Hubby took the laptop away with him, so I can use MSN for three weeks, unless I download it on his precious desktop, mmmm now thats a thought. Yes think I might have to do that. Will keep you posted?????
I was having some thoughts today at work (couldn't be bothered working) and I was thinking about the people at work who I saw that day who have not said anything to me about my weight loss. It was so interesting that the "skinny" people at work have been the ones not to say a word. One girl inparticular, who I thought was a friend, has not acknowledged any of my weight loss. Maybe when I am wearing the same size clothes as her she will notice??????

CONGRATULATIONS Slinkee, you are going to be a beautiful bride and will be the envy of all your guests.

Mermaid Sister - stuff the snooty grandparents, at least you still have your youth and soon your hot booty in those Sass and Bide jeans. Good luck with the blood test.

Lessfatty - Are you really this nice all the time???? You fit in so well with all us women and keep us focused and on track. Thanks for always sharing.

I saw a girlfriend today who has a 10 year old daughter that weighs 47kg and is wearing womens clothes. All she could do is whine about how much her daughter eats and how fat she is - all while her daughter was listening. I found it incredibly hard to not say something, especially when it's the parents who buy the junk food and feed it to their children and allow them to have an eating disorder at that age. The mother herself is drop dead gorgous with a great figure - Probably best to note though that Mum lives off diet pills and not much else!!!!!!!!

I need to go and do some situps now so that I can lose as much weight as Bam!!!!!!
 
Thanx Chelsea, Noted!! I'm planning on only having a few drinks on the Friday night, I'm not a massive drinker anyway - bit of a Cadbury Kid so I can't handle too much. I do know I crave all the wrong stuff though when I am hungover and some of my hangovers can drag for two days, so that's why I kinda thought Monday would be the go. I am prepared to feel like crap for the first few days/ week of the program, but I know it will be over soon enough and I will balance out.
I had my presentation today, which totally just reconfirmed that I am doing the right thing and finally taking control of the never ending nightmare.
I guarentee I will be seeking some serious support form time to time, but I am focused and I am determined and I know I can do this! I think I just need to keep telling myself that if I ever feel a little overwhelmed.
I gave my scales to my boyfriend today and told him to hide them from me, and I bought a brand spanking new digital kitchen scale off ebay for an absolute steal!! So I'm ready baby! Bring it on!
 
Hi everyone, long time no post but have been reading all theposts.

MagicLea Welcome back. Good to hear from you at last and that you're now getting back on track (just like me):p Have been wondering about you and asked my daughter (the one who takes the blood) if she had seen you lately. I know what you mean about the zippers, have been trying not to buy too many new clothes but got a bit sick of my damm slacks slipping down and having to hitch them up all the time:eek: that I finally gave in and bought a long pair and a 3/4 pair TWO sizes smaller and with a band (not elastic) which were only just do upperable (is that a word?) and now I can actually pull them down without undoing them. WOW of what a feeling.:cool: I can now see my toes past my stomach and boobs.
Will send you my phone number by private message and next time you're coming to Bunbury please give me a call and we could meet up for a cup of black tea!!! Would love to meet you. Cheers.

MermaidSister Sizes of your clothes do tell a different story than the scales. My interim clothes are now too big. Love it.

MommaPajama You will be an inspiration to lots of others that have as much weight to loose as you. You will be dancing on that beach before you know it. The small victories are what counts and the bigger picture is what comes at the end. sometimes if you look too far in the future it can be a bit daunting so just plug away and before you know it you'll be seeing a considerable difference, we're all here for you and each other. With the weight on chest I can relate too as I had problems with my hips which woke me up nearly every hour so had to roll over and then the other side ached, but since losing 20kg's I've been amazed that I can sleep nearly all through the night. I can now see my chin bone so that's when I know I've started to show a weight loss. And don't ever think that because you are overweight you are stupid. Everyone is beautiful in their own way (do'es that sound like song) so start singing girl as that's you and me and all the other's on this programme. Where about's are you? I'm in the west and Today Tonight have a story on Wed night about a girl that is size 12 and goes to do clothes shopping and then goes back as a size 24 and the reactions that she gets from the shop keepers. Will be quite interesting to watch. My chains around my neck used to be round but now they are actually hanging down like they are supposed too. 100kg sounds like a hell of a lot to you right now but it's really achievable on this programme. Read Mermaid Sister and it's not so daunting. Good luck.:D

Bam Know what you mean about people giving you compliment. My cousin who I hadn't seen for about 3 mths was estatic when we caught up today and started telling me to get rid of my big tops and wear more clinging tops, boy that takes a bit of confidence, which I don't think I have just yet. But all the same it sure felt good.;)

Had a phone call from a couple of friends today that I haven't seen for about 12 months and there is going to be a 40th school reunion in about 2 months so an determined that I will shed my last 5 to 10kg's before then and stun everyone (I hope), anyway that's going to be my motivation for the last part of my journey.

Cheers everyone and keep up the good work.:D

Have decided to move the goal post from 70kg to 65kg as tummy still has some reduction to go. LOL.

What the devil are the 4 icons at the bottom of the messages for. Furl?, Technorati?, Add post to del.iciou.us?, Digg this post?, Has anyone used them or know what they are on about? Not very cluey about these things so any info would be appreciated :confused: Cheers.
 
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Men have a hard time too!

Less Fatty, i just wanted to tell you that i can not agree with you more. My husband and I were both much healthier when we got married 18 months ago. I had lost weight just from running around and not eating and he was building our house.

But after we got married and went on our honey moon, we thought what the hell and just ate ourselves into our comfort zones. The biggest mistake was the fact that we got all meals included in our honey moon and that is when the fat started to pile on.

However, i have always being a bigger girl, so i have been able to cope with the extra weight better than my hubby. He on the other hand is so depressed about it, that it actually breaks my heart to see him in such personal distress.

He is waiting to do his blood test and we are both really excited about the new lifestyle that we are about to enter. But we have paid a huge price for being overweight.... we are always tired, stressed and we hate going to any function together because we both have no clothes to wear! And it is so hard in the summer.... the heat really affects us and well, we are dreading summer this year becuase we usually love going to the beach...

Anyway, i just wanted to tell you that i agree. Men hurt too. Often, they hurt quietly which is the worst kind because they really don't know how to talk about things like the way they look or even the way they feel about it! So thanks for your post. I showed it to my Hubby and he took me for a walk this evening... and it was really nice.... to see the light in his eyes, slowely start to flicker at the though to getting down to his goal weight with me....
 
Thank you everyone for your kind and uplifting comments! LessFatty I really appreciated your input. Personally for me the biggest mistake I made was not eating. I am horrible about skipping meals, then overeating when I finally breakdown and eat. It was a horrible cycle that did a lot of damage to my body/metabolism/hormone balance.

Well - I found a scale to weigh on and I am delighted to say that my beginning weight is 327lb/149kg instead of 329lb/150kg like I had weighed at the doctor three weeks earlier. I was so thrilled! I truely had prepared myself for being heavier than 329lb/150kg by up to 12lb/5kg so I feel elated already!

I still don't have my program in - but I am using my daughter's - the first day was a breeze. I will be super excited when my plan comes and I know that I am eating exactly the right gram amounts on each but until then it can't hurt to be getting in the general direction. I'm calling these practice days. Getting the water down is definately something I need to work on. I ended up with tons of water left to drink and all I could think of was that I was going to be up all night running to the bathroom! A little extra exercise - ha ha!

My hubby wants to do the plan - but he is going to wait until after the holidays. He is a tall man and only has 20k to lose - on Cohen's he will have that licked in no time. But he already knows he has no will power over the holidays - okay so maybe he'll have 25k to lose! It will be fun to be doing it together.

All of you who have been getting compliments - WAY TO GO!! --whistle--whistle-- horns honking -- go ahead - get addicted to it!

Happily practicing!
Momma Pajama
 
Momma Pajama said:
Personally for me the biggest mistake I made was not eating. I am horrible about skipping meals, then overeating when I finally breakdown and eat. It was a horrible cycle that did a lot of damage to my body/metabolism/hormone balance.

Well - I found a scale to weigh on and I am delighted to say that my beginning weight is 327lb/149kg instead of 329lb/150kg like I had weighed at the doctor three weeks earlier. I was so thrilled! I truely had prepared myself for being heavier than 329lb/150kg by up to 12lb/5kg so I feel elated already!

Getting the water down is definately something I need to work on. I ended up with tons of water left to drink and all I could think of was that I was going to be up all night running to the bathroom! A little extra exercise - ha ha!
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Apprently skipping meals the getting hungry and so to speak end up gorging is as you suggest one of the worse possible things you can do for your weight. Firstly skipping meals gets your body moving into starvation mode "limit energy consumption, slow down metabolism" then you eat a lot (of starchy/carb rich foods) and "bang" insulin goes up, and our bodies start the "make fat, store fat" cycle, and we put on weight even though for most of the day you have been starving. This also effects your brain chemistry, since we only feel good when seretonin levels are normal; and unfortunetly in that state you will only feel normal after eating starchy or sugar based foods...donuts are perfect to do this (a perfect disaster)!

Being on Cohen's is gentle starvation, you dont feel starving hungry, but at least in my case I do feel a just little hungry almost all the time and the 1 hour before meals I do feel very hungry, a donut or a plate of pasta would go down very well :) Chelsea who introduced me to the program says she didnt feel hungry at all during the program.

The state of gentle starvation is what is needed your body says "no sugar, no starch; we have no option but to burn the fossil fuels ...fat".

In regard to the water, I found that you shouldnt try to drink it very cold, it is easier to quickly drink a glass if you drink the water at room temp. I try to drink 2 liters in the morning, 1 liter in the afternoon and 0.5~1 liter in the evening, thus limiting nightime toilet visits to 1. Personally I only drink only a glass 250ml of water with my meal, I think it is better not to dilute the stomachs acids and enzymes with huge amounts of water at meal times, so I drink the most in the 2,3,4 hours after a meal.

You seem happier and that is after you have lost 1KG, you will have 99 more of those happy moments on the road ahead and the road ahead is one of increasing vitality and happiness. BTW What is the maximum that your scales measure? That would be a wonderful (first) sub-goal to reach! My scales measure in 0.5KG from 100KG and above, so I am looking forward to a time (next month?) when I will see 99.8KG!

Also now is a time to create a plan for those times when you cannot cook, when you are traveling etc. Eg. Worse case "The only restaurant is McD" what can I do? I made a plan for such an occassion if it happens: "purchase big mac, salad and diet coke, remove meat from big mac, scrape of sauces, remove non cohen vegetables from salad, pad fat/oil from meat with paper napkin eat meat with salad" I have yet to be placed in a position that I have to eat at a fast food restaurant but if it happens I have a plan...it is not 100% perfect Cohen but it is better that skipping a meal and much much better than eating a burger and fries.
 
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Princessoz said:
I was having some thoughts today at work (couldn't be bothered working) and I was thinking about the people at work who I saw that day who have not said anything to me about my weight loss. It was so interesting that the "skinny" people at work have been the ones not to say a word. One girl inparticular, who I thought was a friend, has not acknowledged any of my weight loss. Maybe when I am wearing the same size clothes as her she will notice??????
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Princessoz I have a totaly different experience. There are some very encouraging collegue who complimented me and keep asking me what did i do to loose weight and ask for advice. There are some who tell me don't do it, it's bad for the health and I look better with that extra 30 kg ( as if i believe). The group that ignore my change in weight are those who are fat! Maybe they feel treaten by the new small me? or what? I don't really understand? Princessoz don't you feel it's kind of weird? We get reaction from different people and maybe for different reason.

I am totally committed to this program. I really believe this program works. I may deviate once in a while but like lessfatty says, it's this fear of losing control that freak us out and not really the eating. Thanks lessfattyfor sharing, I understand myself more.
 
Good Morning Everyone,
This is a post with a difference - I hope you don't mind me indulging...But I have just come away from the TV after watching the Steve Irwin (aka Croc Hunter's) Memorial Service. It was truly amazing and moving. Whilst I can not claim to be the best 'wildlife warrior' or conservationist, I still have the utmost respect for this man and felt hugely sadend for his wife and children. It actually motivated me and highlighted just how short our lives are, or can be. We need to look after ourselves and our families. I believe we can relate this to our decision to change for the better. So, without sounding supercilious I say we should be proud of ourselves and be greatful for all the wonderful things we have in our lives. We are only going to make it better by embarking on this journey. So, CRIKEY! Here's to Steve Irwin and here's to us making the world a better place for us and those around us!
Have a lovely day. Give hugs, kisses and laughter to everyone near and dear to you. I give you mine!
Bye.
 
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