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Yh its great having you on here again Chillen, i understand with the family stuff, and thats fine, no sweat haha

So what you getting for xmas???

Jackie xxx

I do like Xmas for "the family getting together" reason (one of them at least). I enjoy the time and conversations.

But, it doesnt interrupt my goal quest: I just fit it in around what is happenen and honestly ask myself if it can or cannot be done.

All is good.........


I am making dinner for the family tonight. Im quite the cook for being a male, lol.

And, though I will NOT being eating what thier having, I will sit and enjoy all the company. I dont give up my quest during holidays and that is that.


ROCK ON! JACKIE!


Chillen
 
It's nice to hear stuff is going well, chillen.

I hope your holiday season goes well.

Its has been good thus far. I will be off the forum after 5p (lots of family members coming over for dinner--of which I am making and preparing...but not eating. This is fricken willpower,,,baby lol).

Any hoot.....LOL........ALL IS GREAT

How are you SP......?

Sorry I couldnt get with you the other day......I do want to, it may be this weekend before I can though.......I cant talk on yahoo at work; the only opportunity is at home in the late afternoon, and with family time in the evening (because of "mainly" xmas) it will be difficult this week.

ROCK ON! SP!


Best wishes to you!


Chillen
 
hold on...why are you guys calling it X-mas?
its Christmas!
do you not know what december 25th is celebrated for to begin with?
please tell me it is just because you are too lazy to write out christmas, so you shortened it to xmas....it saddens me greatly to see God being taken out of America and its culture...dont you know this country was built upon Christianity?
 
hold on...why are you guys calling it X-mas?
its Christmas!
do you not know what december 25th is celebrated for to begin with?
please tell me it is just because you are too lazy to write out christmas, so you shortened it to xmas....it saddens me greatly to see God being taken out of America and its culture...dont you know this country was built upon Christianity?

Of course, I know what Christmas means. (Come on Jon, remember our many conversations, this is Don here). And, abbreviating the word of CHRISTMAS to Xmas doesnt lesson the value or applicable meaning posed to Christmas.

How are you doing?



Best wishes to you!


Chillen
 
hold on...why are you guys calling it X-mas?
its Christmas!
do you not know what december 25th is celebrated for to begin with?
please tell me it is just because you are too lazy to write out christmas, so you shortened it to xmas....it saddens me greatly to see God being taken out of America and its culture...dont you know this country was built upon Christianity?

This country was built on the ideas of liberal philosophers such as Rosseau and Locke, just because the founding fathers were Christian, doesn't mean this is a christian nation, though i do agree it annoys me when people say Happy holidays instead of Merry Christmas, I'm muslim and even agree its Christmas.
 
This country was built on the ideas of liberal philosophers such as Rosseau and Locke, just because the founding fathers were Christian, doesn't mean this is a christian nation, though i do agree it annoys me when people say Happy holidays instead of Merry Christmas, I'm muslim and even agree its Christmas.

Xmas...Xmas..Xmas..so there.........:boxing_smiley: HEHEHE


LOL!


Best regards,



Chillen
 
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hold on...why are you guys calling it X-mas?
its Christmas!
do you not know what december 25th is celebrated for to begin with?
please tell me it is just because you are too lazy to write out christmas, so you shortened it to xmas....it saddens me greatly to see God being taken out of America and its culture...dont you know this country was built upon Christianity?

A great number of the founding fathers were actually Deists as it was all the rage at that time among free-thinkers

"The United States is in no sense founded upon the Christian religion."
-George Washington

"Christianity neither is, nor ever was, part of the common law"
-Thomas Jefferson

"In every country and every age, the priest has been hostile to liberty. He is always in alliance with the despot, abetting his abuses in return for protection of his own."
-Thomas Jefferson
 
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This misunderstanding and fear mongering about the use of "Xmas" is not a new phenomenon. I heard the same kinds of comments in sermons many years ago. It was especially prevalent among those Christians and church leaders who wanted or needed to see the world in negative and threatening terms (see The Jonah Syndrome), or who tended to see everything in society as part of some grand conspiracy of Satan or the inexorable working out of God’s own predetermined plan, without really knowing all the facts or complexities of the situation (see Christians and Urban Legends).

I have no doubt that some people write "Xmas" because they are too busy or too lazy to write out the whole word. And no doubt some secular people, who are just as uninformed as Christians, see "Xmas" as a way to avoid writing "Christ." And certainly there are secular and commercial motives in the fact that "XMAS" appears in ads and signs because it can be larger and more attention getting in the same amount of space (more bang for the buck). But those factors do not take away the thoroughly Christian origin of the word "Xmas." In this instance, all of the hype and hysteria over supposedly taking Christ out of Christmas by writing "Xmas" instead of spelling out "Christmas" is both uninformed and misdirected.

Abbreviations used as Christian symbols have a long history in the church. The letters of the word "Christ" in Greek, the language in which the New Testament was written, or various titles for Jesus early became symbols of Christ and Christianity. For example, the first two letters of the word Christ (cristoV, or as it would be written in older manuscripts, CRISTOS) are the Greek letters chi (c or C) and rho (r or R). These letters were used in the early church to create the chi-rho monogram (see Chrismons), a symbol that by the fourth century became part of the official battle standard of the emperor Constantine.

Another example is the symbol of the fish, one of the earliest symbols of Christians that has been found scratched on the walls of the catacombs of Rome. It likely originated from using the first letter of several titles of Jesus (Jesus Christ Son of God Savior). When combined these initial letters together spelled the Greek word for fish (icquV, ichthus).

The exact origin of the single letter X for Christ cannot be pinpointed with certainty. Some claim that it began in the first century AD along with the other symbols, but evidence is lacking. Others think that it came into widespread use by the thirteenth century along with many other abbreviations and symbols for Christianity and various Christian ideas that were popular in the Middle Ages. However, again, the evidence is sparse.

In any case, by the fifteenth century Xmas emerged as a widely used symbol for Christmas. In 1436 Johannes Gutenberg invented the printing press with moveable type. In the early days of printing typesetting was done by hand and was very tedious and expensive. As a result, abbreviations were common. In religious publications, the church began to use the abbreviation C for the word "Christ" to cut down on the cost of the books and pamphlets. From there, the abbreviation moved into general use in newspapers and other publications, and "Xmas" became an accepted way of printing "Christmas" (along with the abbreviations Xian and Xianity). Even Webster’s dictionary acknowledges that the abbreviation Xmas was in common use by the middle of the sixteenth century.

So there is no grand scheme to dilute Christianity by promoting the use of Xmas instead of Christmas. It is not a modern invention to try to convert Christmas into a secular day, nor is it a device to promote the commercialism of the holiday season. Its origin is thoroughly rooted in the heritage of the Church. It is simply another way to say Christmas, drawing on a long history of symbolic abbreviations used in the church. In fact, as with other abbreviations used in common speech or writing (such as Mr. or etc.), the abbreviation "Xmas" should be pronounced "Christmas" just as if the word were written out in full, rather than saying "exmas." Understanding this use of Christian symbolism might help us modern day Xians focus on more important issues of the Faith during Advent, and bring a little more Peace to the Xmas Season.

-Dennis Bratcher, Copyright © 2007, Dennis Bratcher - All Rights Reserved
 
Okay.........I do not want the COL to turn into a Christmas debate thread nor whether the US was founded nor not founded in Christianity......create another thread if you want this sort of discussion.

I want to stop this before it gets out of hand........This does have origins that can lead to this. This is one topic I "generally" stay away from in discussions, and I think the reasons are obvious. I "try" to keep my beliefs on this subject matter to myself. So Please.....take it to anther thread and if would like this discussion. This is all I ask.


Abide by my wishes, thanks!



Chillen
 
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hold on...why are you guys calling it X-mas?
its Christmas!
do you not know what december 25th is celebrated for to begin with?
please tell me it is just because you are too lazy to write out christmas, so you shortened it to xmas....it saddens me greatly to see God being taken out of America and its culture.

..dont you know this country was built upon Christianity?

Depends on how you define " built upon " IMO.

While I don't think anyone would suggest that religion doesn't play a role behind the scenes in the US, there is no religious basis or reference in the US Constitution anywhere to " GOD " or religion.

" God " is not mentioned in the articles of the US Constitution, & there is no official US religion etc. etc.

And, there is no reference to " Christian beliefs / Christianity " anywhere as the basis for articles the US Constitution or any US laws.

The US Constitution, US laws - all of it - is unrelated to any religious doctrine or principles IMO
 
Take this to a different thread, are you blind wrangell? Give me the same respect you give other threads. Dont continue your rather "interesting quest" you seem so fond of. I dont want this discussion in my thread.

There is a GOD thread and this has this discussion-and-if you wish to continue this sort of discussion, have at it in another thread. Pretty easy, and rather SIMPLE solution. BUT YOU will determine which way this goes.

This topic can lead to a rather potentially unwanted discussion that can be better served in a thread specifically for this, and not in my journal/log.

Lets say we stave off a potential conflict with me. My former posts explains why.....and its pretty basic, and not a very difficult thing to understand and apply. Im sure if another member, made this request, in one of their own journals/thread, there would be no problem, and THIS I have a problem with.


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See ya guys..........2morrow. Have family over now.....ROCK ON!......

Hey Gooch! Dont take offense, my friend, you didnt know (as I didnt post anything about my distaste on the subject prior to your post), Im just trying to "prevent" this subject, which can be rather "sensitive" subject to some, in the COL, and I am not stating my opinion one way or the other.


ROCK ON! Gooch, Phate, and Jon.



Later!




Chillen
 
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See ya guys..........2morrow. Have family over now.....ROCK ON!......

Hey Gooch! Dont take offense, my friend, you didnt know (as I didnt post anything about my distaste on the subject prior to your post), Im just trying to "prevent" this subject, which can be rather "sensitive" subject to some, in the COL, and I am not stating my opinion one way or the other.


ROCK ON! Gooch, Phate, and Jon.



Later!




Chillen

We're good man, I said my peace already anyway:D
 
The fact is this isnt necessary and will not be necessary, and you probably will have your opinion, but will not be close to the truth "more than likely". Any further explaination to (Jon, Phate, and some others) will not be necessary, because they have an understanding that my motives are genuine and good, and know how I feel about the COL. My request is simple, logical, and-----an attempt to avoid friction, where it isnt wanted, and the topic in question can do just that.


I dont have to specifiy anything to most but do to a select few along these lines.


Chillen
 
I'm not arguing, I just want to make sure the rules are very clear so I can abide by them. Proteinboy can say whatever he wants about god and our country, but only people youd esignate can reply.

When protein boy posted, chillen didn't say anything because he didn't realize that I would reply on the same topic, when he noticed that I along with Gooch were starting to make his thread into a "debate", chillen foreshadowed what could happen and asked for the debate to be taken elsewhere. Nothing more to it.
 
Now, lets try to leave it at that, and not create any more drama. :) Anywhoo, have a good night Chillen, i'm off for some chicken dinner.
 
Take this to a different thread, are you blind wrangell?

First of all, I didn't read your Post # 1846 in which you said " do not want the COL to turn into a Christmas debate thread nor whether the US was founded nor not founded in Christianity " till now - 10:45+++ p.m my time.

So I resent your " blind " cheap shot comment about me ( above ). I wasn't " blind " at all. I simply never your post till this evening.

That said, I'm sure IF Proteinboy (who made 2 posts re Christianity / Xmas ), and Phate89 ( who made 2 posts re Christianity / Xmas ), and Gooch ( who made 2 posts re Christianity etc. ) and myself ( who made 1 post on Christianity / Constitution ) knew ahead of time that references to Christianity, Xmas and the U.S. Constitution were " forbidden " topics for some strange reason on this thread, those topics would not have been discussed.

Give me the same respect you give other threads. Dont continue your rather "interesting quest" you seem so fond of. I dont want this discussion in my thread.

I've gathered that.

However, as i noted above, I didn't know that when I replied to Proteinboy.

There is a GOD thread and this has this discussion-and-if you wish to continue this sort of discussion, have at it in another thread. Pretty easy, and rather SIMPLE solution. BUT YOU will determine which way this goes

I - and I'm sure Proteinboy, Phate89 & Gooch - are well aware of that.

This topic can lead to a rather potentially unwanted discussion that can be better served in a thread specifically for this, and not in my journal/log.

Unfortunately, the complete list of topics that you ( for some strange reason ) feel you have the right to " allow " or " disallow " on this thread is known only to you.

Obviously, Proteinboy, Phate89, Gooch and myself didn't realize you had an ' issue ' with discussing Christianity, Xmas & the U.S. Constitution on this thread.

You now claim that no discussion of Christianity, Xmas & the U.S. Constitution is allowed on this thread......now we know.

Lets say we stave off a potential conflict with me. My former posts explains why.....and its pretty basic, and not a very difficult thing to understand and apply. Im sure if another member, made this request, in one of their own journals/thread, there would be no problem, and THIS I have a problem with. Chillen

No worries.

So long as no one else ever discuses or makes references to GOD / Christianity, Xmas & the U.S. Constitution ever again on this thread ...then neither will I. :)

I will however, join in and participate in other topics as they come along in this thread if I feel so inclined.
 
Had a very good evening, Phate. Spent a couple hours with some family, opened some gifts and shared some quality time. Really enjoyed the loving atmosphere.

Phate you hit the nail on the head, again.......Lets move on, I dont plan to respond to the other posts.

How is your night going, young man?

Mine has been extremely, well.......hope yours was too......Im going to do cardio here in a little bit, and then have two servings of oatmeal with PB, and then off to bed about an hour after that. Goals are still singing alot at a rapid pace.

I havent looked at your log yet, but planned to. I plan to get in full swing on the board pretty soon, Im only about 1/2 throttle at the moment........LOL...


Best wishes to you....and everyone else.....as always...


Chillen
 
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December 20th, 2007: Thoughts for the day (1)

Cultivating Burning Desire


When asked during an interview how he managed to reach the top as a professional bodybuilder and Hollywood actor, Arnold Schwarzenegger replied with a single word, "Drive!" All great success ultimately begins with an idea, but what makes ideas become reality is the fuel of human desire. An idea by itself can give you a temporary feeling of inspiration, but burning desire is what gets you through all the perspiration necessary to overcome the inevitable obstacles along the way.

Take a moment to think about the goals you've set for yourself. (You have set goals, haven't you? If not, go read the article on setting clear goals.) How committed are you to achieving these goals? Under what conditions would you give up? What if you could significantly increase your desire to achieve these goals? What if you wanted them so badly that you knew with absolute certainty that you would absolutely, positively never ever give up? When you are truly 100% committed to reaching your goals, you move from hoping to knowing. If you want something badly enough, then quitting is simply not an option. You either find a way or make one. You pay the price, whatever it takes.

Those with an intense, burning desire to achieve their goals are often referred to as being "driven." But is this special quality reserved only for a privileged few? Certainly not. With the right approach, anyone can cultivate a deep, burning desire within themselves and move to a state of total commitment, knowing with certainty that success is as inevitable as the sunrise.

So how do you cultivate burning desire? You begin with an outside-in approach, altering your environment in ways that will strengthen your resolve while eliminating doubt. If you take the time to do it right, you'll establish a positive feedback cycle, such that your desire will continue to increase on a daily basis.

Here are eight steps you can take to cultivate burning desire to achieve any goal you set for yourself:



1. Burn the ships.
I'm not going to pull any punches with this one. If your goals are really important enough to you, then you can start by burning the proverbial ships, such that you have no choice but to press on. For instance, if you want to launch your own business, you can begin by making the commitment to quitting your job. Write a letter of resignation, put it in a stamped envelope addressed to your boss, and give it to a trusted friend with firm instructions to mail the letter if you haven't quit your job by a certain date.

One Las Vegas casino manager made the decision to quit smoking. He didn't feel he had the personal willpower to do it alone, so he took out a billboard on the Las Vegas Strip with his photo on it along with the words, "If you catch me smoking, I'll pay you $100,000!" Was he able to quit smoking? You bet! (Ok, bad pun.) This is called willpower leveraging. You use a small bit of willpower to establish a consequence that will virtually compel you to keep your commitment. As Andrew Carnegie once said, "Put all your eggs in one basket, and then watch that basket!"

In the classic book The Art of War, Sun Tzu notes that soldiers fight the most ferociously when they believe they're fighting to the death. A good general knows that when attacking an opposing force, it's important to create the illusion of a potential escape route for the enemy, so they won't fight as hard. What escape routes are you keeping open that are causing you not to fight as hard?

If you don't burn those ships, you are sending the message to your subconscious mind that it's ok to quit. And when the going gets tough, as it inevitably does for any worthwhile goal, you will quit. If you really want to achieve your goals, then you've got to burn those ships to the ground, and scatter the ashes. If you're thinking that the average person won't do this, you're right -- that's why they're average.



2. Fill your environment with desire boosters.
Let's say one of your important goals is to lose weight. Get some poster board, and make your own posters that say, "I weigh X pounds," where X is your goal weight, and put them up around your house. Change your screensaver to a text message that says the same thing (or to some equally motivational imagery). Get some magazines, cut out pictures of people who have bodies similar to what you'd like to have, and put them up around your house. Cut out pictures of healthy food that looks good to you, and post those around your kitchen. If you work in an office, then alter your office in the same manner. Don't worry about what your coworkers will think, and just do it! They may poke a little fun at you at first, but they'll also begin to see how committed you are.



3. Surround yourself with positive people.
Make friends with people who will encourage you on the path to your goals, and find ways to spend more time with them. Share your goals only with people who will support you, not those who will respond with cynicism or indifference. If you want to lose weight, for instance, get yourself into a gym, and start befriending those who are already in great shape. You'll find that their attitudes become infectious, and you'll start believing that you can do it too. Meeting people who've lost one hundred pounds or more can be extremely motivating. If you want to start a new business, join the local chamber of commerce or a trade association. Do whatever it takes to make new friends who will help you keep your commitment.

Although this can be difficult for some people, you also need to fire the negative people from your life. I once read that you can see your future just by looking at the six people with whom you spend the most time. If you don't like what you see, then change those people. There's no honor in remaining loyal to people who expect you to fail. One of the reasons people fail to start their own businesses, for instance, is that they spend most of their time associating with other employees. The way out of this trap is to start spending a lot more time associating with business owners, such as by joining a trade association. Mindsets are contagious. So spend your time with people whose mindsets are worth catching.



4. Feed your mind with empowering information on a daily basis.
Inspirational books and audio programs are one of the best fuel sources for cultivating desire. If you want to quit smoking, read a dozen books written by ex-smokers on how to quit the habit. If you want to start a business, then start devouring business books. Go to seminars on occasion. I advise that you feed your mind with some form of motivational material (books, articles, audio programs) for at least fifteen minutes a day. This will continually recharge your batteries and keep your desire impenetrably strong.

When you absorb material created by an extremely passionate person, you'll often find yourself feeling more passionate as well. A great book I read was Pour Your Heart Into It by Howard Schultz, the CEO of Starbucks. As I read the book, I was absolutely amazed at how someone could be so fanatically enthusiastic about coffee. Other enthusiasm-building authors/speakers I highly recommend are Harvey Mackay and Zig Ziglar.



5. Replace sources of negative energy with positive energy.
Take an inventory of all the sensory inputs into your life that affect your attitude -- what you read, what you watch on TV, the cleanliness of your home, etc. Note which inputs influence you negatively, and strive to replace them with positive inputs. I'll give you some good places to start. First, avoid watching TV news -- it's overwhelmingly negative. Do you really need to hear about the woman who was mauled to death by her neighbor's dog? Fill that time with positive inputs instead, like motivational and educational audio programs. If you like to watch movies, then watch movies that are full of positive energy, such as light-hearted comedies and stories of triumph over adversity. Avoid dark, tragic movies that leave you feeling empty afterwards. Dump the horror books, and replace them with humor books. Spend more time laughing and less time worrying. If you have a messy desk, clean it up! If you have young kids or grandkids, spend some time playing with them. Some of this may sound a bit corny, but it will really help increase your overall motivation. If you have a hard time motivating yourself, chances are that your life is overflowing with too many sources of negativity. It's far better to happily achieve than it is to feel you must achieve in order to be happy.



6. Dress for success.
Whenever you pass by a mirror, which is probably several times a day, you get an instant dose of image reinforcement. So what image are you currently reinforcing? Would you dress any differently if your goals were already achieved? Would you sport a different hairstyle? Would you shower a bit more often?

Although for years I enjoyed the ripped jeans and T-shirt look, I noted that when I visualized myself in the future, having achieved certain goals, I was dressed a lot more nicely. With some experimentation I found a style of clothing that looks professional and is also comfortable. So I gradually donated my old clothes to charity and replaced my wardrobe with clothes that fit the new identity I was growing into. (Consequently, there's a Salvation Army store with quite a stock of gaming industry T-shirts.) I learned this idea from an ex-Navy Seal, who stressed to me the importance of taking pride in your appearance, and I can say with certainty that it makes a noticeable difference. So make sure the clothes you wear each day are consistent with your new self-image.



7. Use mental programming.
This is a Neuro-Linguistic Programming (NLP) technique that will help you associate strong positive emotions to whatever goal you're working to achieve. Find some music that really energizes and inspires you. Put on your headphones and listen to it for fifteen to twenty minutes, and as you do this, form a clear mental picture of yourself having already achieved the results you want. Make your imagery big, bright, vivid, colorful, three-dimensional, panoramic, and animated. Picture the scene as if looking through your own eyes (this is very important). This will help you form a neuro-association between the positive emotions elicited by the music and the goal you want to achieve, thus strengthening your desire. This is a great way to begin each day, and you can even do it while lying in bed when you first awaken if you set things up the night before. You should cycle the music periodically, since the emotional charge you get will tend to diminish if you listen to the same songs each time.

Keep in mind that this form of mental programming is already being used on you by advertisers. Watch a fast-food TV commercial, and you'll note that the food is big, bright, and animated -- spinning burgers, lettuce flying through a splash of water, ripe tomatoes being sliced -- and don't forget the catchy tune. So instead of letting others program your desires for you, take charge and mentally reprogram yourself.



8. Take immediate action.
Once you set a goal for yourself, act immediately. As you begin working on a fresh new goal, don't worry so much about making detailed long-term plans. Too often people get stuck in the state of analysis paralysis and never reach the action stage. You can develop your plan later, but get moving first. Just identify the very first physical action you need to take, and then do it. For instance, if you've decided to lose weight, go straight to your refrigerator, and throw out all the junk food. Don't think about it. Don't ponder the consequences. Just do it immediately.

One of the secrets to success is recognizing that motivation follows action. The momentum of continuous action fuels motivation, while procrastination kills motivation. So act boldly, as if it's impossible to fail. If you keep adding fuel to your desire, you will reach the point of knowing that you'll never quit, and ultimate success will be nothing more than a matter of time.

If you apply these eight strategies, you'll add so much fuel to your desire that the fire will never burn out. You'll move towards your goals like a guided missile to its target, and you'll enjoy the process because you'll be so focused on the positive rewards instead of the difficulty of the tasks. If you get enough positive energy flowing into you, you'll soon have positive results flowing out of you. And you'll quickly become the kind of person that others refer to as "driven."

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In each of you, you have the tools to cultivate your desire to achieve anything you desire or want. Find it....dont ever give up on yourself.

All of you are strong and good human beings........ROCK ON with your Bad selves!



Best wishes to you all,


Chillen
 
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