The BS Thread!

Trips is short for Triple H Wolvie :D

These are all wrestling terms for how it is in the business...

I use a lot of business terms when I talk about pro wrestling, I'll explain em here.

Heel - bad guy

Face (or babyface) - good guy

Being over - means being over with the fans, being over means they believe your gimmick and either love you (or hate you). When I say Cena is way over, means the fans love him, and they wouldn't take too kindly to him losing the belt at mania.

Doing the job or jobbing - means losing to an opponent. All matches have scripted finishes, and the one who loses is said to have jobbed to so and so... When wrestlers are just starting out and they are made to lose to more popular wrestlers in order to "pay their dues" normally they're called jobbers. You may remember when Al Snow was wrestling in the WWE after ECW, he would wear a t shirt that said "job squad" and on the back it said "pin me and pay me"

The strap - the belt... Losing the belt is often referred to "dropping the strap"

kayfabe... now I have no clue how this word came about, but it means the scripting, writing and story lines... When a wrestler breaks character in a show and does something against scripting and storylines its called breaking kayfabe... Normally its very taboo to do this and is met with swift punishment, although sometimes (like when Owen Hart passed away) its accepted. The last known issue of this happening was Bob "hardcore" Holly beating the hell out of Renee Dupree in a match because Dupree recieved a speeding ticket in a rental car that was in Holly's name.

Screwjob - when a wrestler loses a match or a victory is taken away due to cheating of some kind.. most screwjobs are scripted, some are not. The Montreal Screwjob was the most famous one in history. I won't describe it here, theres plenty on this on the internet.
 
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I enjoyed pro wrestling when i was like in school

but now its sort of like easy to anticipate who wins and who doesnt
the uncertainity element has gone off :(

by the way mock fighting was fun in school
atleast you gotta be into the whole fight to enjoy it

now ive lost taste for it in favor of pride fc

i always wished to see John cena get defeated :D
(not to upset you fans but its kind of boring to see the same guys win over and over)
 
mreik said:
I know, you work out for years, and then this guy pokes his butt a few times a week hittin the weights a lil harder and looks like the white hulk..

And to anyone not knowing who greg is, I have a pic on my comp bc he's my role model, lol seriously though, it's unbelievable.

EDIT** and no, it's not photochopped.
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I'm scared at that picture, the guy has some sort of weird problem in his biceps!
 
yo i love wrestling. my friend and i wanna become wrestlers. problem is we each need to gain a couple of inchs height wise, and gain 50 lbs of muscle.

aevans, thanks for the wrestling terms, i knew most of em except "being over" and "kayfabe"

im gonna see if i can find a bar thats gonna play mania
 
mreik said:
Geez, you Canadians.. :p
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Lol. I probably shouldn't mention this, because obviously opinions of those across the border is low, but I will anyways. Aforementioned friends seriously plan to be wrestlers, even though one is a complete stick. I could snap him like a twig, which, if I may say, is quite sad. To be honest, I think they simply like the skanky divas (What guy wouldn't?) and believe dating already half-naked women might increase their chances of getting some action. Omg, there was this phase where they were all so desperate they traded email addys of eachother's cousins, the average age of the girls being 12, and they're 16.
I should mention at this point those guys aren't close friends. In fact, I barely know them.
 
WOLVERINE said:
mreik, why is valentino your role model? the guy destroyed his life...
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Just messin around brutha. I wouldn't mind a few more inches to make an even 20 though.. Soon, soon. ;)
 
HoneyBee said:
I could snap him like a twig
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I love it when chicks talk like this.;)

And if you guys/gals have never been to a live professional wrestling match, it's very very cool. Those guys take a hell of a beating to get where they are.
 
evolution said:
I love it when chicks talk like this.;)

And if you guys/gals have never been to a live professional wrestling match, it's very very cool. Those guys take a hell of a beating to get where they are.
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the reason I quit performing was because of something like that...

We were experimenting with chair shots... and during a tag team match, I was supposed to be screwed by my partner and pinned. The spot was, I was supposed to hit my finisher on the legal man, then his partner was to take the ref out. I go for the pin, and see the ref down. I get up, start to revive the ref. Stand up, turn around and take a shot with a chair in the head. Then take a horrendous beating at the end of the match after Im pinned.

we rehearsed it 3 times, not at full speed (which was a mistake) but I had taken a shot to the top of my head with a chair. It does hurt, but not too awful bad as long as the flat part hits the top of your head. He was supposed to wait for me to turn, locate the chair, then put my head down.

When we did it live, he didn't wait, and I took most of the chair shot in the face. luckily i was able to get my arm up to block a bit of it, but most of it got me.
 
mreik said:
Just messin around brutha. I wouldn't mind a few more inches to make an even 20 though.. Soon, soon. ;)
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mreik, ive been strugglin to turn the guns into the cannons. what have u been doing? the reason i ask is...

i read a lil bit of the adonis complex. according to the book, it is impossible to get your arms larger than a certain body mass something something UNLESS you take steroids. A person's frame can only hold so much muscle UNLESS you take steroids... that was the basic point... so how you are getting bigger and bigger without steroids?
 
I really think what was holding me back several years ago was my diet. I think probably half of everyone trying to gain muscle doesn't put enough focus into what they eat, but rather just focus on lifting. I eat my ass of everyday, sometimes coming to the point where I want to throw up, but I'm natrually an ecto, so I have to keep up. I think if you adjusted your diet, and were more strict on eating more (lol nice to be able to do that) you could probably make your body do anything.


BUT, as soon as I get old enough for HRT, HRT here I come lol.

Oh yeah keep an eye out in the pics thread, I got some new ones coming. I've put on about 10lbs of muscle, and lost some fat.
 
Wolvie,

the injury wasn't that bad, just a cut over my eye and some bruising.

It was just an accident, but we did part ways after that. It was 9 years ago, but I think they wanted to experiment with tables and stuff like that too, like ECW fashion, and I wasn't into that.
 
mreik said:
Oh yeah keep an eye out in the pics thread, I got some new ones coming. I've put on about 10lbs of muscle, and lost some fat.
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good to know mreik. i actually just put up some pics yesterday, lemme know what u think.

yeah man, i probably have to eat a lot more. but i think the trick is to try to eat more PROTEIN, not just of everything. and im gonna try to add in some more healthy fats (for t levels)
 
mreik said:
Man evo, you and these strong/huge chicks. I think this is a borderline fetish :eek:
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Yes...well...we all have problems;) I still like my women feminine though.

Aevans, sorry to hear about that...that really sucks.
 
evolution said:
I love it when chicks talk like this.;)

And if you guys/gals have never been to a live professional wrestling match, it's very very cool. Those guys take a hell of a beating to get where they are.
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Ha ha, it probably stems from that seemingly- unquenchable desire most males have to see a catfight. But I wasn't exaggerating, I really could. I beat my ex in an arm wrestle once - using my left and right. One of my prouder moments.:) As for the wrestling matches, I've heard they're kinda neat with the music and lighting etc. And really buff men tossing eachother around might be fun to watch. ;)
 
If i knew this turned into a discussion about pro wrestling i would've been in here everyday. Looks like i've missed the boat though.

aevans - OH MY GOD! How in the hell can you say that Cena is "way over". Face it man, no one likes him. He gets pops from kids and teenage girls, that's it. I hate Cena, he completely sucks and has ever since he turned in late '03 and toned down his raps and has been booked like stone cold was '99. His gimmick completely sucks now and they only put the belt back on him so that he can drop it Triple H. 'H couldn't have a match against Edge because he's the badguy as well well and heel vs. heel isn't as appealing and it opened the door for Foley vs. Edge. And yeah, Cena could take some lessons from AJ Styles, Austin Aries, Roderick Strong, Christopher Daniels or even anyone that can have a 2 star match.

Alrite and whoever said that wrestling is fake has got it completely wrong. Yeah it's scripted but "fake" is the wrong word because i know that these guys get legitimately hurt not just from wrong executing moves but from long term wear and tear on ones body. Anyone who thinks that it's a piece of cake needs to realise how hard it is. You gotta do years of weight training to get big enough (it's big man's sport and most of the big money earners are well over 100kg). Then you go to wrestling school to learn the business. Now here's where it gets hard because you don't just jump right in and earn the big $$. The guys that first start out get their ass kicked to wrestle on a show in front of 100 people for $20 bucks. Some guys actually earn less money than it took them to travel to the show. I could go on forever and explain more but i don't wanna bore you guys.

Wrestlemania tomorrow, can't wait for that
 
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Streamline bro...

who makes up the mark population of the WWE? Kids.... Listen to the pops he was getting during the high spots of his match with Triple H. He is way over, but in the WWE being over has nothing to do with talent, but that is pretty obvious. Anyone who shows the slightest bit of popularity gets the mega push (Orton, Batista) then they usually end up jobbing the strap back to triple H. Trust me, I hate Cena too, but you have to look at the mark population and not us people who know better. I do agree that they put the belt on him to lose it to HHH, but you still have to think like a mark.

The fact is, he is way over (much to my and your dismay). Vinnie Mac doesn't listen to us, he listens to marks... If he listened to us, the divas would be gone (unless they actually had in ring talent), Vince "I can't even slide into the ring without wounding myself" McMahon would stay out of the show, Steph wouldn't be head of the writing department, hell Vince Russo was better, People like Cena and Randy Orton would be kicking around the mid to lower mid card and only getting on the upper card if they were jobbing to people like Chris Benoit, Dean Malenko, Steven Richards. The marks love cena, so he IS way over. If he wasn't, they wouldn't have brought him over to RAW. Because lets face it, HHH needs more sacrificial lambs to make his egotistical self look good.

Heres what Id like to know. Taker is about to retire, he doesn't have that much left. Why not reward the 15 or so years of loyalty with one more title run? Mark Henry in a casket match at mania? thats just sad.
 
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