Performance -Not Enough!
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uh oh, the ironman sounds shaky!ah please. no way. I think if anything mountin biking helps road biking as long as you're making it a challenging gear. Its a lot harder overall. the only thing I could see being a hindrance is that you can't go aero and thats one very important piece of your ride during that race.
What Sparrow said... The only drawback to the MTB versus road biking is the positioning in MTB (more upright) and the lack of training to be on the aeros on the MTB. My only concern would be that your back and neck might get tired more easily if you haven't spent enough time on the road bike and especially on the aero bars.
BTW, Good Luck on the 70.3!
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a bit shakey...hmmmm maybe. I can't decide is 5:45 for the 70.3 is realistic or not
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yipes. thats very swift.
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Do you have an actual written plan for taper week or are you doing it as it comes? I don't mean anything by that, I'm just wondering. I will finish my 12 week training 1 week shy of the race so I plan to ditch the "plan about 2 weeks out and do what works for me since I already know I don't taper well. I just wondered what your strategy was.
I had 2 different 140.6 plans. One was "Beginners Triathlete" and the other one is Triathlon for Geeks. For the last 20 weeks or so, I have picked whatver workout was larger of the two. Any weight training was my own add ons.
today's workout is race week for the BT'ers 140.6 plan. The only day off this week is Friday.
the 140.6 plan is prepping an athlete for a 12 + hour event honey. If a guiy can't throw down an hour or two per day, he has no chance at 140.6
The BT'er plans do not really incorporate any long days. They will never shwo you 300 minutes. This 70.3 distance will see 300 minutes for sure.
I would recomend that YOU see 300 minutes with the last 120 running, prior to your event. It will get you thru the mental pain once. Then at your race you will only have to deal with the physical pain. a good way is to have a long ride, 50 miles or so, practivce nutrition, then get off the bike and run for 120 minutes. Then on race day, when you come off the bike, regardless of all the lil things that try to undermine us, you know you got the 120 in your brain and boidy.
Both uf us are competitive... there is no chance WE are going to just go have a nice day wporking out and finish an event... hahahhahaa
That's why we fit.
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today's workout is race week for the BT'ers 140.6 plan. The only day off this week is Friday.
the 140.6 plan is prepping an athlete for a 12 + hour event honey. If a guiy can't throw down an hour or two per day, he has no chance at 140.6
The BT'er plans do not really incorporate any long days. They will never shwo you 300 minutes. This 70.3 distance will see 300 minutes for sure.
I would recomend that YOU see 300 minutes with the last 120 running, prior to your event. It will get you thru the mental pain once. Then at your race you will only have to deal with the physical pain. a good way is to have a long ride, 50 miles or so, practivce nutrition, then get off the bike and run for 120 minutes. Then on race day, when you come off the bike, regardless of all the lil things that try to undermine us, you know you got the 120 in your brain and boidy.
Both uf us are competitive... there is no chance WE are going to just go have a nice day wporking out and finish an event... hahahhahaa
That's why we fit.
FF
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I know that goofy. I only asked because you've had some interesting workouts the past few days and I wondered if it was your own creativity in working on certain fine points or something you were following. That is all. A taper for a 70.3 is way different than a taper for an oly or something. Its just not going to be the same. To the typical triathlete they'd look at your workouts this week and think "OMG he's going to wear himself out!" haha.
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I couldn't find the tri geek website but I found the trifuel one which is good also. I just don't have the time for it. its a bit more extensive. The BT is good for me but I'm having to supp. already because my fitness is slightly ahead of what they have going on. I'm also adding my own strength stuff but its hard to fit in. Little is better than none-like last year.
I do need to do the 300 min workout as you recommended. the mental is as much of the beast as the physical. When do you think I should do that? I need to also start some heat workouts. We're hitting tripple digits this week.
I'm still uncomfortable in the saddle at the end of a 50 miler. Are you also or is this something I need to adjust on my bike?
define uncomfortable-
one trick I am incorporating is wearing bike shorts over my tri suit for the bike portion. It takes me 35 seconds to put them on "properly" and it keeps me from getting any hotspots during the ride.
3 hours on a bike and then 2 hours running is way hardewr than 5 hours on a bike.... I know you know that, but for anybody else reading. It is not just the length of time, but the order of disciplines.
another thing I have found is that if I sink into my heels more, on the bike, it focused the strain to my quads, even more than moving my seat forward.
if I can come off that bike, and not feel it in my hammies- I will make a gr4eat time on Sunday.
It is better to slow the bike down, and run the whole way, than walk any of it. It is gunna be HHHAAAWT and feet will be burning and knees screaming, and to pick up and run again, from any extended walk, is a mental nightmare.
THIS STUFF IS SOOOOO COOL!
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I don't have either tri shorts or bike shorts so thats most of my problem right there. I'm riding "naked" so to speak By 50 miles my butt HURTS to say the least. The bones in my butt are on fire by-say 40 miles. At that point I'm tensing up my butt muscles so much it protects the bones from getting smacked around anymore but then it wears me out! I do need to fiddle with the saddle position too though. yes the order of disciplines is HUGE. I can spin and swim or run and swim but if I swim and then spin, I'm way more wiped out. If I spin then run, I'm way more wiped out. Genius way of ordering those events-even it if was initially to avoid people from dying. lol
By 50 miles my butt HURTS to say the least. The bones in my butt are on fire by-say 40 miles. At that point I'm tensing up my butt muscles so much it protects the bones from getting smacked around anymore but then it wears me out! I do need to fiddle with the saddle position too though. yes the order of disciplines is HUGE. I can spin and swim or run and swim but if I swim and then spin, I'm way more wiped out. If I spin then run, I'm way more wiped out. Genius way of ordering those events-even it if was initially to avoid people from dying. lol
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well ..... ahem..... fanning myself... uh wheeew..... k ... uh ,,,ahem
somebody please get me some water
Hey just sayin it like it is!
I don't have either tri shorts or bike shorts so thats most of my problem right there. I'm riding "naked" so to speak
You need to get some tri shorts and/or bike shorts girlfriend! I wouldn't dream of going 50 miles without shorts anymore, although I did several centuries in my 20s without padded shorts or gloves.
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yeah no gloves either. is that bad? lol. I guess if I'm gonna be an "iron woman" I should dress the part...at least a little?
hahaha. man I'm still a rookie. how sadAll kidding aside, my hands numb more easily now because of not having worn gloves years ago. So, wear padded gel gloves!
Pull your visor down low. After this weekend, and I wear it for the M-Dot finish photo, I will send you my visor, you can just point to it, and "they will just know."
Swim: warm us 5 min (I went 200) sprint 6 X 50 fast, cool down 5 minutes (I went 200
Run: wu 5 min, then 5 X 1 minute sprint ( I went fast, but not a sprint- too close to risk soemthing like that) cool down 5 minutes.
Sweat Daily!
oh, and Ga8tr- I want to personally thank you for quoting that scorching hawt post of Sparrow's, now she can never take it away! LOL!!!
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yipes, sorry! I guess I forgot "where" I was
I removed it and put it in my own journal.
I removed it and put it in my own journal.
Final preperations, one last 1:20 workout scheduled for today, then I've got wqash the truck, clean and lube the bike, pack my stuff, and get ready to go.
Tomorrow I am at busch gardens as a chaperone with my son's class and then we leave for the race site.
the carb load is going much better last night and today, I am not so dopey feeling. Today I get to have some dairy proiducts which will be great, the yogurt was a nice lift in my feelings. Teh carb depelete and load has been very emotional to say the least.
Time to wrap things up, shave the body, stretch out a few times, and let's RCOK AN ROLL! Bring it!
Sweat Daily
FF!
Tomorrow I am at busch gardens as a chaperone with my son's class and then we leave for the race site.
the carb load is going much better last night and today, I am not so dopey feeling. Today I get to have some dairy proiducts which will be great, the yogurt was a nice lift in my feelings. Teh carb depelete and load has been very emotional to say the least.
Time to wrap things up, shave the body, stretch out a few times, and let's RCOK AN ROLL! Bring it!
Sweat Daily
FF!