anna.banana
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Hey all
I'd like to join too... looking forward to a new year and a big challenge!
Ana
I'd like to join too... looking forward to a new year and a big challenge!
Ana
Weight-Loss NEW YEAR: 12 Week Biggest Loser Challenge!!
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Omega
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A 200 pound person can be fairly trim or very obese depending on their height - so exercise expectations can be unreasonable if based purely on weight. Maybe BMI would be a better approach.
Whilst a larger person may be thought of as having a disadvantage regarding miles covered - they are most certainly at an advantage when it comes to the likely weight loss element. If you go to the complexity of multiplying miles covered by a factor to even out the weight advantage - you end up often getting caught into the need to judge the weight loss as a pecentage instead of using straight pounds. The heavier people otherwise have an advantage when it comes to losing weight.
Whilst a larger person may be thought of as having a disadvantage regarding miles covered - they are most certainly at an advantage when it comes to the likely weight loss element. If you go to the complexity of multiplying miles covered by a factor to even out the weight advantage - you end up often getting caught into the need to judge the weight loss as a pecentage instead of using straight pounds. The heavier people otherwise have an advantage when it comes to losing weight.
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ScaredStudent
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I'm certainly in for this, it will be really easy for me to motivate myself simply because I am a very competitive person. I'll update on the 30th or 31st. I honestly do not know what I weight myself. I need to go get a scale.
grrrkgrrrl
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when it's 5 pm in NYC what time is it in England...
/googles manically
9pm London time
/googles manically
9pm London time
teehee
HA! Well, those of you not in my time zone will also have the joy of learning more about time zones and math!! Lucky you!
HA! Well, those of you not in my time zone will also have the joy of learning more about time zones and math!! Lucky you!
Omega
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momma4alex
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I'm in. my name is heather currently weigh in at 243-257.8 i keep bouncing around due to stress and now tom.
!...and I loveeeeeee a baby competition too!! 
Alta818
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I think points are great, but it just might be easier to keep track if the points are small numbers, and not derivative towards the weight, because for exampleMaybe you could have the exercise portion coincide with the person's "100-club". i.e. if you weigh 300-400lbs, your goal for biking would be like 6 miles (I know that I usually do 3-4 miles at around 320, so 6 miles would be pushing it for me). If you weigh 200-300lbs, make it 8 miles? 100-200lbs 10 miles? Does that seem reasonable? I am less aware of what is appropriate for the lower weights activity-wise because I haven't really been there ... ever, ha.
Ooh, or if you want to do it as a points system, take the number of miles multiplied by the person's weight.
So: (Miles x Weight)
Example: (6 miles x 318.2)= 1909pts.
(6 miles x 243.7)= 1462pts.
I'm not sure if this is a fair system, (mostly because I'm terrible at math) but if we could do something similar to this, it would probably be great.
You could really do it with whatever, including push-ups or other calisthenics.
20 push ups x 318lbs = 6360pts.
20 push ups x 215lbs = 4300pts.
If you want to simplify the numbers, just multiply your weight by .01 before plugging it into the equation:
318 x .01 = 3.18; 20 push ups x 3.18 = 63.6
There may be problems with this system, if anyone sees a problem let me know, I tend to get an idea and then I get blinders on so it is hard for me to see flawed logic unless it is pointed out.
1) The higher the weight-the more points you have---
2) The lower the weight -the less points you have ---
...the baby issue being : @ the end of the challenge...which is it based on?
1) the higher amount of points wins?
2) the lower amount wins?
...when it's based according to pounds, I don't see how either one will be motivated to work harder, because if the "higher" amount of points wins, obviously the person weighing more will have an advantage over the lower weighing person. And if the points are winning towards the "least" amount of points, the heavier weighing person would have less motivation to work harder, considering the more exercise, the more points, the farther away from having "less" points to be able to win. The lower weighing person will get more frustrated as they have to work double time to accumulate the "higher" amount of points, in case the winning is having "more" points.
...get my drift?
...I think that points is Great, just maybe we can give a "point" for each completed task daily, (ex: drink water= 1 point, 30 mins exercise = 1 point, weight lifting 30 mins = 1 pt., counting calories = 1 point, and so on)===making a total of points for the day like 5 or something. This I think would be easier to count and keep track of at the end of the week, and day.
Just a thought
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Omega
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I think points are great, but it just might be easier to keep track if the points are small numbers, and not derivative towards the weight, because for example
1) The higher the weight-the more points you have---
2) The lower the weight -the less points you have ---
...the baby issue being : @ the end of the challenge...which is it based on?
1) the higher amount of points wins?
2) the lower amount wins?
...when it's based according to pounds, I don't see how either one will be motivated to work harder, because if the "higher" amount of points wins, obviously the person weighing more will have an advantage over the lower weighing person. And if the points are winning towards the "least" amount of points, the heavier weighing person would have less motivation to work harder, considering the more exercise, the more points, the farther away from having "less" points to be able to win. The lower weighing person will get more frustrated as they have to work double time to accumulate the "higher" amount of points, in case the winning is having "more" points.
...get my drift?
...I think that points is Great, just maybe we can give a "point" for each completed task daily, (ex: drink water= 1 point, 30 mins exercise = 1 point, weight lifting 30 mins = 1 pt., counting calories = 1 point, and so on)===making a total of points for the day like 5 or something. This I think would be easier to count and keep track of at the end of the week, and day.
Just a thought
I tend to agree with Alta.
Addiecakes
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You make a good point about motivation, Alta. Perhaps I was trying to make things too complicated. It is difficult to make any number of tasks or activities be an even playing field for people of different abilities, weights, and activity levels.
My point was simply that for something like push-ups, it is much more physical work to do the same amount of push-ups as someone who weighs less. Same with running, sit-ups, and many other measurable activities.
I am going to be competing with myself through this whole challenge, so however it gets measured doesn't matter to me. I know that I probably can't even do a single "REAL" push-up anyway, lol
My point was simply that for something like push-ups, it is much more physical work to do the same amount of push-ups as someone who weighs less. Same with running, sit-ups, and many other measurable activities.
I am going to be competing with myself through this whole challenge, so however it gets measured doesn't matter to me. I know that I probably can't even do a single "REAL" push-up anyway, lol
Alta818
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hahah...You are so cute!!!...Of course you will be able to do a "real" pushup!
!...All in all...I'm excited however we calculate it all!
! ...and I definitely see your drift on doing the exercises and the challenge factor for heavier individuals. Let's see how it pans out! !...& GREAT PHOTO AVI by the way!! Gorgeous woman!
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Mr. Love
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Maybe you could have the exercise portion coincide with the person's "100-club". i.e. if you weigh 300-400lbs, your goal for biking would be like 6 miles (I know that I usually do 3-4 miles at around 320, so 6 miles would be pushing it for me). If you weigh 200-300lbs, make it 8 miles? 100-200lbs 10 miles? Does that seem reasonable? I am less aware of what is appropriate for the lower weights activity-wise because I haven't really been there ... ever, ha.
Ooh, or if you want to do it as a points system, take the number of miles multiplied by the person's weight.
So: (Miles x Weight)
Example: (6 miles x 318.2)= 1909pts.
(6 miles x 243.7)= 1462pts.
I'm not sure if this is a fair system, (mostly because I'm terrible at math) but if we could do something similar to this, it would probably be great.
You could really do it with whatever, including push-ups or other calisthenics.
20 push ups x 318lbs = 6360pts.
20 push ups x 215lbs = 4300pts.
If you want to simplify the numbers, just multiply your weight by .01 before plugging it into the equation:
318 x .01 = 3.18; 20 push ups x 3.18 = 63.6
There may be problems with this system, if anyone sees a problem let me know, I tend to get an idea and then I get blinders on so it is hard for me to see flawed logic unless it is pointed out.
I agree that this system wouldnt be very fair to some people. It would be great for me though
I am 265lbs but am in decent shape. I can probably do a good amount of any excersise and because of my high weight my points would add up very quickly.Ground Rules, and Challenges Weeks 1-3
The first three weeks of the Biggest Loser Competition have been decided. I'm going to post the ground rules, as well as what you can expect for those first three weeks here.
After each week I will post a results chart so everyone will see who's losing the highest percentage of weight, and who's racking up the challenge points! Challenge points will be used at the end of the 12 Weeks so those players who have earned them will be able to "adjust" their percentage of weight lost totals, or the totals of their biggest competition!
GROUND RULES:
Absolutely no late entries or challenge submission results.
If you have not joined the challenge by 5PM EST on December 31st, you will not be able to join into the challenge. Sorry!
If you are in the challenge, but do not submit your results for the specific weekly challenge by 8PM EST on each Thursday, you are simply ineligible to earn challenge points for that week’s event. Sorry!
Each week there will be a Challenge to keep everyone motivated! This is in addition to weighing in at the end of each challenge week AND being required to exercise for at least 2 hours each week as well.
Because January 1st is on a Friday, all of the challenges will run Fri. – Thur. Each Thursday you will need to be send a Private Message to me, PlumpHope, stating your new current weight, how much time you exercised that week, and the exact results of how you did in that week’s challenge.
Each Friday I will update a chart which will track the challenge points people have earned, as well as their weekly percentage of weight lost. To be fair to people of all weights, we are tracking percentages – not pounds!
There has been a lot of discussion about the challenges, and how to make them “fair” for people of all weights and fitness levels. I have come to the conclusion that they are not going to be totally fair, no matter what I do! I have arrived at a schedule for the 12 Weeks that I believe gives a good compromise of advantages to people of all sizes and fitness levels – So we shall see!
One thing is constant during the entire challenge: To be eligible for challenge points, you need to have exercised at least 2 hours that week!
Week One: Let’s start with Liquids
Based on your starting weight for the challenge, you will spend Friday, January 1st until Thursday, January 7th trying to make sure you are drinking the proper amount of water each day for your size. The rule of thumb is 1oz. of water for every 2lbs. of weight. For example, if you weight 200 pounds, you should be aiming for 100oz. of water per day. On the 7th everyone interested in challenge points will need to send me a Private Message stating a day by day record of the amount of water you drank, along with your new weight.
Week Two: Getting Physical
January 8th to January 14th is going to suck for mega-overweight, super out of shape people like me! The challenge for this week is lower-body strength measured through squats and lunges. This week will be decided on quantity, the people who complete the most squats and lunges over the week will win challenge points. (If you’re already in decent shape, feel free to add weights into this exercise. It won’t get you more points, but it will give you a better workout!) There may be special points awarded based on the day by day numbers of how many squats and/or lunges you did. Stay focused, and send me a Private Message on the 14th with your daily counts, as well as your new weight.
Week Three: If you haven’t eaten anything nice, Still write it down
January 15th to January 21st is all about keeping our calories in check. Come to this thread on the 15th and figure out your BMR and required maintenance calories. () Then each day during that week come back to this thread and post your food journal and calorie counts for the challenge club to review. Please post a new post each day that week, and don’t just edit your first thread. This will make it easier for me to track! Challenge points will be awarded for willpower and diligence to tracking things online this week!
The next 9 Weeks are still being planned, but I warn you: They'll get much more physical!
P.S. Those of you that already responded to this thread, and said you would return closer to the 31st and edit your weight, please DO NOT EDIT. Going back and looking through old threads for edits takes so much longer for me than glancing at a new thread! I'll appreciate your help!
Basic info I will need from everyone to start the challenge:
Username -
First name -
Starting Weight -
Any questions or clarifications you might have, please ask them! Sometimes things don't come out the way I want them to when I type!iggy:
The first three weeks of the Biggest Loser Competition have been decided. I'm going to post the ground rules, as well as what you can expect for those first three weeks here.
After each week I will post a results chart so everyone will see who's losing the highest percentage of weight, and who's racking up the challenge points! Challenge points will be used at the end of the 12 Weeks so those players who have earned them will be able to "adjust" their percentage of weight lost totals, or the totals of their biggest competition!
GROUND RULES:
Absolutely no late entries or challenge submission results.
If you have not joined the challenge by 5PM EST on December 31st, you will not be able to join into the challenge. Sorry!
If you are in the challenge, but do not submit your results for the specific weekly challenge by 8PM EST on each Thursday, you are simply ineligible to earn challenge points for that week’s event. Sorry!
Each week there will be a Challenge to keep everyone motivated! This is in addition to weighing in at the end of each challenge week AND being required to exercise for at least 2 hours each week as well.
Because January 1st is on a Friday, all of the challenges will run Fri. – Thur. Each Thursday you will need to be send a Private Message to me, PlumpHope, stating your new current weight, how much time you exercised that week, and the exact results of how you did in that week’s challenge.
Each Friday I will update a chart which will track the challenge points people have earned, as well as their weekly percentage of weight lost. To be fair to people of all weights, we are tracking percentages – not pounds!
There has been a lot of discussion about the challenges, and how to make them “fair” for people of all weights and fitness levels. I have come to the conclusion that they are not going to be totally fair, no matter what I do! I have arrived at a schedule for the 12 Weeks that I believe gives a good compromise of advantages to people of all sizes and fitness levels – So we shall see!
One thing is constant during the entire challenge: To be eligible for challenge points, you need to have exercised at least 2 hours that week!
Week One: Let’s start with Liquids
Based on your starting weight for the challenge, you will spend Friday, January 1st until Thursday, January 7th trying to make sure you are drinking the proper amount of water each day for your size. The rule of thumb is 1oz. of water for every 2lbs. of weight. For example, if you weight 200 pounds, you should be aiming for 100oz. of water per day. On the 7th everyone interested in challenge points will need to send me a Private Message stating a day by day record of the amount of water you drank, along with your new weight.
Week Two: Getting Physical
January 8th to January 14th is going to suck for mega-overweight, super out of shape people like me! The challenge for this week is lower-body strength measured through squats and lunges. This week will be decided on quantity, the people who complete the most squats and lunges over the week will win challenge points. (If you’re already in decent shape, feel free to add weights into this exercise. It won’t get you more points, but it will give you a better workout!) There may be special points awarded based on the day by day numbers of how many squats and/or lunges you did. Stay focused, and send me a Private Message on the 14th with your daily counts, as well as your new weight.
Week Three: If you haven’t eaten anything nice, Still write it down
January 15th to January 21st is all about keeping our calories in check. Come to this thread on the 15th and figure out your BMR and required maintenance calories. () Then each day during that week come back to this thread and post your food journal and calorie counts for the challenge club to review. Please post a new post each day that week, and don’t just edit your first thread. This will make it easier for me to track! Challenge points will be awarded for willpower and diligence to tracking things online this week!
The next 9 Weeks are still being planned, but I warn you: They'll get much more physical!
P.S. Those of you that already responded to this thread, and said you would return closer to the 31st and edit your weight, please DO NOT EDIT. Going back and looking through old threads for edits takes so much longer for me than glancing at a new thread! I'll appreciate your help!
Basic info I will need from everyone to start the challenge:
Username -
First name -
Starting Weight -
Any questions or clarifications you might have, please ask them! Sometimes things don't come out the way I want them to when I type!
iggy:
ChefAshley
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Sounds Great!
Username- ChefAshley
First Name- Ashley
Starting Weight-240
Username- ChefAshley
First Name- Ashley
Starting Weight-240
Addiecakes
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Username: Addiecakes
First Name: Ashley
Starting Weight: 317.0 lbs.
First Name: Ashley
Starting Weight: 317.0 lbs.
chubbygirl
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I would like to join however it sounds a lot more complicated than previous challenges I have entered and can't promise to do everything I am supposed to do since I lack a computer at home so therefore will just follow along and wish you luck along the way. Good luck everyone!
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