Trops
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Hey, Amanda. I'm right with you on that one. I'm up a bit myself, and I'm attributing it to a few really intense muscle building sessions. Big losses this week.
Weight-Loss Lose'n it in September
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Hey, Amanda. I'm right with you on that one. I'm up a bit myself, and I'm attributing it to a few really intense muscle building sessions. Big losses this week.
Trops
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First the bad news. I weighed in this morning at 209.2. That's up .8 pounds from last week. I have a lot of excuses for that weight, but let it just be said that the weekend was not as good as I had hoped.
The good news is I'm right back on today and I know that everything will even out this week. I'm going to see under 205 this week.
The good news is I'm right back on today and I know that everything will even out this week. I'm going to see under 205 this week.
thecabbie
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I managed a 2 lb drop. I was having guilt feelings all weekend about the quality of food that I was eating because I was on the go a lot, and my diet was trashed. I did tr to maintain some control ove rquantity though, and got some payoff out of it.
Ticker has been changed, 323 down to 321. I've breathed a sigh of relief, and I'll be hoping for an easier week this week!!
Headed for the gym now!
Ticker has been changed, 323 down to 321. I've breathed a sigh of relief, and I'll be hoping for an easier week this week!!
Headed for the gym now!
Curvie Girlie
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I have been really bad at weighing myself in Sept!
However, I have changed some habits (sleeping more, yoga in morning, no alcohol) last week that will certainly cause a change if I don't cancel it out with ICE CREAM
However, I have changed some habits (sleeping more, yoga in morning, no alcohol) last week that will certainly cause a change if I don't cancel it out with ICE CREAM
Trops
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Cabbie, two pounds is real good considering you are just getting a handle on your calories. I feel like you will start to make some great strides, now. Hitting the gym is key. Let us know how it went.
Valerie, I slipped up with the beer this weekend. Didn't even remember that I wasn't drinking. I only had one, but I was trying to go for none. Well, this week is another chance.
Valerie, I slipped up with the beer this weekend. Didn't even remember that I wasn't drinking. I only had one, but I was trying to go for none. Well, this week is another chance.
Curvie Girlie
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ONE beer is fine. I may even have ONE beer at some point between now and 9/27, but I'm trying not to get "the taste for alcohol," yadada I mean? Alcohol has amazing benefits for the body, BUT it's not so great for dieters because when dieting, one needs the calories s/he consumes to be absolute from nutrient-rich foods and not "empty."
Moderate Drinkers Less Likely to Develop Deadly Diseases, Study Finds
Though beverage type was not a factor with certain ailments, wine was particularly effective in lowering the risk of heart disease
Jacob Gaffney
Posted: Friday, February 29, 2008
A study published in the December/January 2008 issue of medical journal Angiology has lent support to the belief that drinking wine responsibly helps reduce the risk of heart disease—and provides greater protection than beer or spirits. The scientists also found that moderate alcohol consumption, in general, is linked to a lower risk of other diseases as well, such as type-2 diabetes and metabolic syndrome.
Study co-author Dr. Dimitri Mikhailidis of the department of clinical biochemistry at the Royal Free Hospital in London, said that the purpose of the study was to obtain an alcohol "dose-related" risk for several diseases, which is uncommon among studies of this kind. "There is no point in reducing the risk of one serious condition if you increase that of another one," said Mikhailidis of the study's design.
The study looked at 4,153 adults in Greece who are participants in a larger, ongoing study that focuses on the identification and treatment of metabolic syndrome, which is a collection of disorders that may lead to heart disease and diabetes. The subjects were chosen from four hospitals and 22 healthcare centers across Greece (the nine other researchers listed as the study co-authors work in some of these treatment centers).
Drinkers in Mikhailidis' study were categorized as mild if they drank one and a half or less drinks per day; moderate drinkers consumed between one and a half and three drinks per day; heavy drinkers consumed about three and a half or more drinks per day. The volunteers were followed from 2003 and, over the course of time if any developed any of the aforementioned ailments, the scientists recorded the incident and categorized the event according to participants’ alcohol-consumption habits.
For moderate drinkers, the risk of developing metabolic syndrome was nearly half that for nondrinkers. For mild drinkers the risk was 25 percent less when compared to nondrinkers, while heavy drinkers were 25 percent more likely to develop the ailment. Other diseases, such as heart disease and type-2 diabetes, had a similar pattern as with metabolic syndrome, but to a lesser degree. Moderate drinkers still showed the least amount of risk, at around 40 percent less, while mild drinkers were about 30 percent less likely to develop the disease, when compared to nondrinkers. Heavy drinkers showed a greater risk than nondrinkers, with a 5 percent greater chance.
When looking at heart disease specifically, the scientists found that wine in particular provides the greatest benefit. Moderate wine drinkers were 58 percent less likely to have heart disease, when compared to nondrinkers, while beer and spirits drinkers were 48 percent and 41 percent less likely, respectively. The results were similar, regardless of gender, for mild drinkers. Heavy drinkers showed a higher risk, regardless of beverage type, when compared to nondrinkers.
The risk of hypertension, the study's authors noted, rose with each category of alcohol consumption, with heavy drinkers showing the greatest risk of stroke. However, the researchers suggested that this greater risk among moderate and even mild drinkers exists because of higher salt intake among the participants, because the foods they chose tend to have higher levels of salt compared to the foods eaten by nondrinkers.
Mikhailidis said that the study showed the importance of responsible drinking, and that the results should encourage heavy drinkers to reduce their alcohol intake. Whether or not beverage choice makes a difference is likely a reflection of "local habits," specific to the areas of Greece that were studied, Mikhailidis said, as in some parts of the country people prefer beer, yet they prefer wine in others. More important, the "benefit occurred against the background of a protective Mediterranean diet," which includes one or two alcoholic beverage with meals in the evening, Mikhailidis pointed out.
Moderate Drinkers Less Likely to Develop Deadly Diseases, Study Finds
Though beverage type was not a factor with certain ailments, wine was particularly effective in lowering the risk of heart disease
Jacob Gaffney
Posted: Friday, February 29, 2008
A study published in the December/January 2008 issue of medical journal Angiology has lent support to the belief that drinking wine responsibly helps reduce the risk of heart disease—and provides greater protection than beer or spirits. The scientists also found that moderate alcohol consumption, in general, is linked to a lower risk of other diseases as well, such as type-2 diabetes and metabolic syndrome.
Study co-author Dr. Dimitri Mikhailidis of the department of clinical biochemistry at the Royal Free Hospital in London, said that the purpose of the study was to obtain an alcohol "dose-related" risk for several diseases, which is uncommon among studies of this kind. "There is no point in reducing the risk of one serious condition if you increase that of another one," said Mikhailidis of the study's design.
The study looked at 4,153 adults in Greece who are participants in a larger, ongoing study that focuses on the identification and treatment of metabolic syndrome, which is a collection of disorders that may lead to heart disease and diabetes. The subjects were chosen from four hospitals and 22 healthcare centers across Greece (the nine other researchers listed as the study co-authors work in some of these treatment centers).
Drinkers in Mikhailidis' study were categorized as mild if they drank one and a half or less drinks per day; moderate drinkers consumed between one and a half and three drinks per day; heavy drinkers consumed about three and a half or more drinks per day. The volunteers were followed from 2003 and, over the course of time if any developed any of the aforementioned ailments, the scientists recorded the incident and categorized the event according to participants’ alcohol-consumption habits.
For moderate drinkers, the risk of developing metabolic syndrome was nearly half that for nondrinkers. For mild drinkers the risk was 25 percent less when compared to nondrinkers, while heavy drinkers were 25 percent more likely to develop the ailment. Other diseases, such as heart disease and type-2 diabetes, had a similar pattern as with metabolic syndrome, but to a lesser degree. Moderate drinkers still showed the least amount of risk, at around 40 percent less, while mild drinkers were about 30 percent less likely to develop the disease, when compared to nondrinkers. Heavy drinkers showed a greater risk than nondrinkers, with a 5 percent greater chance.
When looking at heart disease specifically, the scientists found that wine in particular provides the greatest benefit. Moderate wine drinkers were 58 percent less likely to have heart disease, when compared to nondrinkers, while beer and spirits drinkers were 48 percent and 41 percent less likely, respectively. The results were similar, regardless of gender, for mild drinkers. Heavy drinkers showed a higher risk, regardless of beverage type, when compared to nondrinkers.
The risk of hypertension, the study's authors noted, rose with each category of alcohol consumption, with heavy drinkers showing the greatest risk of stroke. However, the researchers suggested that this greater risk among moderate and even mild drinkers exists because of higher salt intake among the participants, because the foods they chose tend to have higher levels of salt compared to the foods eaten by nondrinkers.
Mikhailidis said that the study showed the importance of responsible drinking, and that the results should encourage heavy drinkers to reduce their alcohol intake. Whether or not beverage choice makes a difference is likely a reflection of "local habits," specific to the areas of Greece that were studied, Mikhailidis said, as in some parts of the country people prefer beer, yet they prefer wine in others. More important, the "benefit occurred against the background of a protective Mediterranean diet," which includes one or two alcoholic beverage with meals in the evening, Mikhailidis pointed out.
Curvie Girlie
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also:
Moderate Drinkers Who Also Exercise Likely to Live Longer, Study Finds
A long-term study of nearly 12,000 people in Denmark found a reduced risk of life-threatening ailments among those who both drank alcohol and exercised regularly
Jacob Gaffney
Posted: Tuesday, January 15, 2008
Active, responsible drinkers got some good news from a study published Jan. 9 in the European Heart Journal. The study concluded that moderate consumption of alcohol and moderate exercise are both associated with longer life but, more important, the benefit increases when the two behaviors are combined.
"The lowest risk of death from all causes was observed among the physically active, moderate drinkers, and the highest risk among the physically inactive non- and heavy drinkers," said Østergaard Pedersen, the study's lead author and a researcher at the National Institute of Public Health at the University of Southern Denmark in Copenhagen. "Neither physical activity alone nor alcohol intake can completely reverse the increased risk associated with alcohol abstention and lack of physical activity. Thus, both moderate to high levels of physical activity and a moderate alcohol intake are important for lowering the risk of fatal heart disease and deaths from all causes."
According to the research, which was co-authored by Morten Grønbæk, director of research at the Institute, previous studies have found moderate drinking to be associated with a lower risk of heart disease, while other studies have found the same for exercise. However, this is the first study to examine a combination of the two, according to the study's authors. This, they said, is especially helpful for physicians since alcohol consumption and exercise habits are pieces of information easily obtained from patients—and both can be modified accordingly.
The researchers pulled data on 11,914 Danes enrolled in the larger Copenhagen City Heart study, in which the participants' health was monitored over about 20 years, beginning in the late '70s and early '80s. In that study, the subjects' patterns of alcohol consumption and exercise were recorded, as well as other lifestyle factors, such as smoking habits and socioeconomic status. Over the 20 years, 1,242 cases of fatal heart disease and 5,901 deaths from any cause were recorded.
When they compared the rates of death to alcohol and exercise patterns, the researchers found that the lowest risk was among men and women who drank between one to 14 drinks per week and also exercised briskly for more than four hours per week. Such men were 30 percent less likely to die by any cause and women were 49 percent less likely to die. Rates of heart disease were also similarly lower among these people.
The physically inactive had the highest risk of death, regardless of drinking habits, and within each level of physical activity the moderate drinkers had the lowest risk of death from all causes. The researchers pointed out, however, that the study results are meant to highlight the importance of all-around responsible, healthy behavior; they cautioned against taking only pieces away from the research.
"Our study shows that being both physically active and drinking a moderate amount of alcohol is important for lowering the risk of both fatal heart disease and death from all causes," Grønbæk said.
"For both men and women, being physically active was associated with a significantly lower risk for both fatal heart disease and all-cause mortality than being physically inactive; and drinking alcohol was associated with a lower risk of fatal heart disease than abstaining," he added. "A weekly moderate alcohol intake reduced the risk of all-cause mortality among both men and women, whereas the risk among heavy drinkers was similar to nondrinkers."
Moderate Drinkers Who Also Exercise Likely to Live Longer, Study Finds
A long-term study of nearly 12,000 people in Denmark found a reduced risk of life-threatening ailments among those who both drank alcohol and exercised regularly
Jacob Gaffney
Posted: Tuesday, January 15, 2008
Active, responsible drinkers got some good news from a study published Jan. 9 in the European Heart Journal. The study concluded that moderate consumption of alcohol and moderate exercise are both associated with longer life but, more important, the benefit increases when the two behaviors are combined.
"The lowest risk of death from all causes was observed among the physically active, moderate drinkers, and the highest risk among the physically inactive non- and heavy drinkers," said Østergaard Pedersen, the study's lead author and a researcher at the National Institute of Public Health at the University of Southern Denmark in Copenhagen. "Neither physical activity alone nor alcohol intake can completely reverse the increased risk associated with alcohol abstention and lack of physical activity. Thus, both moderate to high levels of physical activity and a moderate alcohol intake are important for lowering the risk of fatal heart disease and deaths from all causes."
According to the research, which was co-authored by Morten Grønbæk, director of research at the Institute, previous studies have found moderate drinking to be associated with a lower risk of heart disease, while other studies have found the same for exercise. However, this is the first study to examine a combination of the two, according to the study's authors. This, they said, is especially helpful for physicians since alcohol consumption and exercise habits are pieces of information easily obtained from patients—and both can be modified accordingly.
The researchers pulled data on 11,914 Danes enrolled in the larger Copenhagen City Heart study, in which the participants' health was monitored over about 20 years, beginning in the late '70s and early '80s. In that study, the subjects' patterns of alcohol consumption and exercise were recorded, as well as other lifestyle factors, such as smoking habits and socioeconomic status. Over the 20 years, 1,242 cases of fatal heart disease and 5,901 deaths from any cause were recorded.
When they compared the rates of death to alcohol and exercise patterns, the researchers found that the lowest risk was among men and women who drank between one to 14 drinks per week and also exercised briskly for more than four hours per week. Such men were 30 percent less likely to die by any cause and women were 49 percent less likely to die. Rates of heart disease were also similarly lower among these people.
The physically inactive had the highest risk of death, regardless of drinking habits, and within each level of physical activity the moderate drinkers had the lowest risk of death from all causes. The researchers pointed out, however, that the study results are meant to highlight the importance of all-around responsible, healthy behavior; they cautioned against taking only pieces away from the research.
"Our study shows that being both physically active and drinking a moderate amount of alcohol is important for lowering the risk of both fatal heart disease and death from all causes," Grønbæk said.
"For both men and women, being physically active was associated with a significantly lower risk for both fatal heart disease and all-cause mortality than being physically inactive; and drinking alcohol was associated with a lower risk of fatal heart disease than abstaining," he added. "A weekly moderate alcohol intake reduced the risk of all-cause mortality among both men and women, whereas the risk among heavy drinkers was similar to nondrinkers."
Trops
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You don't have to convince me to drink. I'm all for it. I don't think it's helpful to dieting, but no, one won't hurt all that much. The beer I drank was an Amstel, so it's not like that much in calories, and really it was a drop in the bucket. I was just surprised that I forgot that I wasn't drinking that till it was far gone.
Curvie Girlie
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Oh I'm not trying to convince you! It's just amazing, the research they have on "moderate drinking" and how beneficial it is. Problem is, ya hafta STOP at 1-3 drinks Keep conscious of what you consume!!!!
Keep conscious of what you consume!!!!
Curvie Girlie
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hahahaha--what about MAINTENANCE????
Curvie Girlie
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Whatever works! As long as you enjoy yourself immensely
douknowjello
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200 is not my goal. 185 is my real goal. Under 200 and I'm going to drink myself silly. Then go running with a hangover. Good plan, huh?
LMAO!! I just had this image of you running and stopping to puke every 10 feet :X I hear you though, I don't drink more than once a year if that but I've felt like I'm due lately. Would be nice to just relax with friends and get silly. Anyway I don't think I've ever come by your journal before so guess I was due on that too. Just wanted to stop by and say howdy
~Lisa
Trops
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I'm a regular drinker. Not a regular over-indulger, but I drink pretty regularly. I've really cut back since trying to get healthy, but this summer I was drinking more frequently. I like to consider myself an "Alcoholist." I study all the best of alcohol without getting into trouble with it. 
MissDFITT
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Being as young as I am there is alot of pressure to drink, but I just dont and my friends can't believe it. But there are times when a giant margie calls my name and I endulge... but most often I just don't... but I'm pretty unsocial too so that helps... and Stephen doesnt drink (like at all... like he's never been drunk doesnt drink... I think he's had maybe 2 beers in his lifetime)... so that helps.
HOWEVER!!! With my b-day coming up I just might treat myself to ONE! I'm such a lightweight that's all it takes!!
Okay, I'm done... I feel like I'm rambling.
HOWEVER!!! With my b-day coming up I just might treat myself to ONE! I'm such a lightweight that's all it takes!!
Okay, I'm done... I feel like I'm rambling.
Coffeebro
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Please excuse me for the horrible joke, but... That's because you have a hollow leg.
Sorry, I couldn't help myself.
Very true my dear boy! Very true.