God

What is your status

  • You beleive in the conventional God

    Votes: 33 39.8%

  • Dont beleive in the conventional God

    Votes: 8 9.6%

  • Atheist - we developed through evolution

    Votes: 30 36.1%

  • Or perhaps a higher intelligence created us.

    Votes: 12 14.5%
  • Total voters
    83
Watch out, an American Christian has arrived!!!! :mad: :mad:

hehe, just kidding, except that I am an American Christian.

Being raised in the Bible Belt South, I am surrounded by people with very deep rooted spiritual beliefs. Some are more open than others to different thoughts, ideas, etc.

I, myself, do believe in God, and Christ as my Savior. While I believe whole heartedly in this and am not ashamed of it, I do not find it necessary to brow beat those who disagree with what I believe. Everyone should follow their own convictions and do what they believe is right in their hearts. If that leads them down a different path than me, that is their own choice.

Is there a certain level of comfort in spirituality? Yes, of course. However, to me , it is much more than that. There is a certain peace that cannot be described or studied or even debated.
 
i dident say it disproved god. But it does disprove alot of christian belives. As macroevolution (evolution to new species) say suggests that humans were not created finished in gods image, and suggests that we are not as special as we think.

And i dont think people are as religious here as in the states. Alot of people are though, but alot of people arent. I dont know the percentages. But if you were to research it, you cant go by the number of people who are members in the Norwegian state church, because alot of people who are, dont belive in god, but get baptised in church when they are kids because theire parents have a tradition with that in the family (when they get baptised they automaticly becomes a member of the church).
 
Karky said:
But if you were to research it, you cant go by the number of people who are members in the Norwegian state church, because alot of people who are, dont belive in god, but get baptised in church when they are kids because theire parents have a tradition with that in the family (when they get baptised they automaticly becomes a member of the church).
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I've seen quite a bit of that with Catholics. Many are baptised as infants, and therefore "members", then are raised to participate in the rituals and such. As adults, many consider themselves "Catholic", but do not participate in any way, or even don't believe in general.

Most other denominations don't operate quite like that. Membership is in an individual church if, and only if, you actually join it.
 
Karks, that was my way of trying to keep this from becoming an evolution debate...I agree that it disproves a lot of religions, and some people want to believe their religions in order to validate all kinds of other crap.

Plus, no one can make an honest decision about evolution. On one hand, they think he's a kilt wearing stud, and on the other, he's a fat greasy fried-chicken-eating bitch.
 
Ok im now sober, I had a few shots of vodka first time in a while last night and i think it made me misunderstand the original poster a tad:p. Now i just have a slight hangover:D
Atheist as i already stated ;D

I can not believe, In fact even if i wanted to believe in a god a single creator i couldn't. To me its like convincing myself that red is blue and green is yellow, I know which color is which and i can not convince myself otherwise. Religion is like that to me.

Religion is a great thing if you can truly and honestly believe fully. To have complete and totally blind faith, I do not and can not. Hell ,I can not even believe in my own government, how could i believe in a super natural being?
 
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I do believe in a God or Creator, however I have a hard time believing in a Chistian God/Moslem God/Buddah, or what have you. The explanation for my belief is very simple.

To put it crudely... you can't get something from nothing! To me it's ludicrous to believe that all of a sudden there was a big bang which in turn created our universe! Something had to ignite the "Bang". Nothing begets nothing and something begets something!
 
John, i think like that all the time too. The hard question is how can something start. In my mind, first there had to be nothing, but then again, you cant make something out of nothing, so something would have had to be there for all time. But how is that possible? Problem is, these questiones are way too big for us to answer, we dont have the knowledge.
 
JohnSWA said:
I do believe in a God or Creator, however I have a hard time believing in a Chistian God/Moslem God/Buddah, or what have you. The explanation for my belief is very simple.

To put it crudely... you can't get something from nothing! To me it's ludicrous to believe that all of a sudden there was a big bang which in turn created our universe! Something had to ignite the "Bang". Nothing begets nothing and something begets something!
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Then where did god come from?

~Nicole
 
That would be the question of the ages Nicole.

How could something come from nothing, be it God, or the big bang?

In a way though, they are two different questions.

Everything physical must originate from something at some point. However, God wouldn't really fall into that category b/c God is spiritual, not physical.

The whole thing with spirituality of any sort is that it doesn't adhere to the same laws of physics as do physical objects. (how else do you think ghosts go through walls?:p )
 
(Silent) said:
Ok im now sober, I had a few shots of vodka first time in a while last night and i think it made me misunderstand the original poster a tad:p. Now i just have a slight hangover:D
Atheist as i already stated ;D

I can not believe, In fact even if i wanted to believe in a god a single creator i couldn't. To me its like convincing myself that red is blue and green is yellow, I know which color is which and i can not convince myself otherwise. Religion is like that to me.

Religion is a great thing if you can truly and honestly believe fully. To have complete and totally blind faith, I do not and can not. Hell ,I can not even believe in my own government, how could i believe in a super natural being?
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Who does believe the US government? Or the British one at that. :rolleyes:
 
My theory is there must be a creator, whether it be scientifically ( Big Bang) or religiously (God). I like to think it was God, but everything needs to be proven scientifically these days to be right. Im not a science geek or anything, but the last i knew we haven't been able to make humans through science yet. In that fact, how the hell did the planets and such even be created to make the big bang?! Thinking about how anything and everything started boggles my brain way too much. Which came first? the chicken or the egg? I would kill to find out the awnser to the truth behind God,Heaven,Hell.
 
deschain said:
That would be the question of the ages Nicole.

How could something come from nothing, be it God, or the big bang?

In a way though, they are two different questions.

Everything physical must originate from something at some point. However, God wouldn't really fall into that category b/c God is spiritual, not physical.

The whole thing with spirituality of any sort is that it doesn't adhere to the same laws of physics as do physical objects. (how else do you think ghosts go through walls?:p )
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Either way, both matter and a spiritual god must have been created. Both are enourmously difficult to undersatnd, but to imagine how a god just came into existance - a complex thing that must have been formulated, statistically unprobable beyonds words, is far far more difficult to beleive.

And your assuming ghosts exist. Stating that spirits arnt govered by the same law is the easy way out, its just to easy.

And LeiYunFat, although you cant disprove god, it is still against what relegious people beleive so it kinda does.

Im in the same posistion as silent, thinking of it i wish i did beleive in a god in a way, imagaine beleiving that after you die are magical heavan awaits you. unfortunately, just as the great kerry pack said when he died and came back to life.

"the good news is that theres no hell, the bad news is theres no heavan"
 
Jake 85 said:
I would kill to find out the awnser to the truth behind God,Heaven,Hell.
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I think that's been done before...

Matt, what I am trying to do is detach the concept of God from the religious bull****. I know it's not possible for some, but that's not really my concern.

And if I may be a total hypocrite, Buddah is not considered to be a creator. Being a Buddha is a concept of being. Anyone can become one...
 
I contend that we are both atheists. I just believe in one fewer god than you do. When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours.
Stephen Robets,
 
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I contend that we are both atheists. I just believe in one fewer god than you do. When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours.
Stephen Robets,
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The post wasn't that good, how 'bout we keep it to one thread?
 
God and such; theres so many questions we can never answer (maybe we could but I'm sure some country in a few hundread years will nuke the entire planet...) Like what caused life? What causes even "something" to exist? Why couldn't there just be absoletely nothing... Thats why I believe in God because I think he started all this weather it was the "big bang" or not.

I don't go to church though; I just view God as a symbol for a good way to act and perceive life.
 
God threads will go on forever. If you think about it, this debate has been going on since man first thought of a creator/s - yet to this day we are still arguing about it! I really wish there was a God, some sort of being, as I honestly don't want to die. I love living, I love thought, it's just so wonderful. Yet I doubt life-after-death, such a wonderful thing, is around the corner. So I figure I'm just going to live the best life I can, avoiding stress and pain in general. And if I end up in hell, well great. To feel the pain of being in hell would mean I would retain my thought - and in the end no matter how much pain I'm in, as long as I have my thought I'll be happy.
 
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