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BAM - I find weekends difficult as well but I try to use this time to plan for the rest of the week. Weekends that would normally be spent eating and drinking with friends I now invite a girlfriend to come to the market with me to buy fruit and veg.

I deviated yesterday at the Grand Final - I had some chocolate, some chips and some twisties and a few drinks.

I must say that as soon as I had two chips my tummy started to swell - it really didn't agree with me. Anyway, I've done it. Today I have drunk extra water to see if this helps minimise any damage.
 
(Stupid question first) this morning when I took my meat from the freezer that I had already weighed and packeaged I reweighed it and it was 5 grams less that what it was when I first froze it.... Do I leave it as it is or do I have to add to it to make the 105 grams....HELP!!!! Also

Does anyone else have Gall stones (and if you do) have you had any pain episodes whilst on the program...and is there anything that you can do to eliviate the pain other than medication.

Unfreeze Loss of Weight: I hate this problem, eg. tuna that was supposed to be 140gms after I get it home weight 135gms...5 grams less than my allowance :mad: I just leave it and eat it slightly under weight, the loss is mostly fluid and not much protein so it shouldnt make a big difference. Dare I suggest a couple of grams more for the other meal during the day so you total days protein is about right? Next time maybe just add an extra couple of grams before freezing.

Gall Stones: I had them before the program, but I didnt realize! But 2 weeks into the program they decided to make their presence VERY CLEAR...ouch! The program basically is a low to very low calorie diet, which may cause your bile to become supersaturated with cholesterol generated from the breakdown in your fatty tissuess and since gall stones are basically cholesterol, your existing gallstones could grow quickly! ... I STRONGLY believe that if you have gall stones to take great care with Cohens. My doctor put me on Urso (600mg/day) which I believe will help a great deal to prevent my gall stones getting worse for the remainder of the program.
 
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Hey Everyone,

First of all id like to say a HUGE thankyou for everyone that replied to my earlier post. Although im an idiot and still havent been following cohen's to a "T".

I am great during the week, no deviations to name. Although the weekends im finding just horrible, im actually not looking forward to weekends anymore as i seem to not be able to control myself and i tend to mix in foreign foods with my meals.

I know what i have to do, and i know how to get to my goal but for some reason i have this little devil on my shoulder on the weekends saying "come on, it wont hurt!".. for god's sake how do i get rid of this little bugger!!!!

Im starting to become very down in the dumps due to this and its not good. Self Sabotage is exactly what this is..

Starting tomorrow im back on the "Cohen's Wagon"..I know that this program works and im hoping that no weight has been put on by my deviations this weekend. Im so unhappy with myself, honestly i really thought i was stronger then i seem to be. And i know i can do this, that is the problem! Why arent i doing it????

Nothing in my life is bad at the moment, im moving into my first place with my partner of 5 years in 3 weeks time and i suppose that is keeping my mind occupied more then cohens is.. ive just gotta settle down, remember what im doing and who im doing this for (me) and just bloody well do it!!!! :(

Sorry to babble on again, i need to focus 100%.. forget about weekends they are only 2 days outta the week that screw me up, so if i eliminate them ill be fine :)

Thankyou everyone for being strong, keep being strong and you'll be helping those in need of it, believe me. You guys are the reason im still on this program.

Take Care, Enjoy your weekend. ~Bam-a-naughty-lam~ xx

I think you need a stronger *WHY* , why are you doing this program, with a stronger WHY it is easier to stick with the plan.

Why did you do this Cohen? What part of your pre-diet body did you most dislike, eg if it is a "fat arse", why dont you keep a picture of it (pre diet) so you see it frequently, and it serves to remind you of what you are trying to move away from. For me having *tits* is a great motivational factor...it is truely disgusting for a man to have floppy tits!

Tough love; What else you need is a PLAN for the weekends, make a clear plan that doesnt require food and boozing! Beach, walking, riding bikes, movies, dancing, making babies, there must be something you like doing other than eating and boozing with mates!!! And if your life is just about eating and boozing then you need create a better lifestyle.

That being said, I visited a mates house and had a great lunch with chicken breasts and cohen vegetables like a good boy, then a great bottle of red wine came out.....I had a 1/2 glass it was SO GOOD!..so I had another 1/2 glass :eek: Oh well my first big deviation that was completely due to my lack of self control!
 
Very Deep and Meanigful Post - Do Not Read If Allergic to D&M

G’Day Every Body

Heavenlylamb, thanks for the updates and new information regarding common foodstuffs.

The hunger enhancers are very important – I had no hunger at all while on the program and still do not experience hunger.

However, my consumption of instant coffee has increased whereas while I was on the program I made one percolator of coffee each day, and just had a glass of water and a ‘shot’ of black coffee from that amount and when it was gone I didn’t make any more.

Now, it is back to the old habits of switching on the kettle and although I am making only half a cup to limit the amount of milk, by the end of the day I have probably had eight to ten spoonfuls of instant coffee. Not good!

Regarding the use of sweeteners, I have never been a fan of artificial sweetener – this comes, in part, from during the 1960s when the original sweeteners had a definite link to bladder cancer. The more modern sweeteners leave a bitter aftertaste, but while on the program perhaps it is better to go ‘cold turkey’ and not use sweeteners at all. Considering that the food is all fresh, what is there to sweeten? And it just perpetuates the notion that we ‘need’ sweet things, when really we don’t.

It’s lovely to see some recipes, but I’m going to be a kill joy and remind everybody that unless the ingredients are on the Shopping List then do not use them eg white wine vinegar is not on the list, and neither is whole grain mustard nor fresh garlic.

Also remember that all fresh herbs must be weighed in with the vegetables for that meal. This includes parsley, grated ginger or anything fresh.

Want A Life bac, you must weigh all foods fresh. If you then freeze them, why have you weighed them again – just to see if the freezing has any affect?

Weigh to the exact weight, them freeze and forget. I used the frozen spinach portions (about 40 grams each) and defrosted them to see if there really was any ‘ice weight’ to be considered. There was none that I could discover, ditto frozen Brussels sprouts. For frozen vegetables you could defrost before weighing as suggested in the program, however with meats weigh fresh exactly as prescribed for you.

WARNING: From here on in this Post gets to be Deep and Meaningful. Parental Guidance is recommended for anyone under the age of 70 years!

Bam, as with all of us, we have many reasons for doing this and sometimes it is difficult to make change when it is ‘only for me’.

About 5,000 years ago the book of the I Ching (the Book of Changes) was written as human being desire things to be ‘different’ but hate ‘change’.

I wonder; you live at home with your parents and perhaps siblings. During the week everybody is busy and probably minding their own business. What part of the weekend to you find difficult? Are you embarrassed that being careful with the program draws other people’s attention to what you are doing – do they deliberately tempt you, mock you – or is it that ‘being on a diet’ simply puts you in the spotlight when you would rather not have any attention paid to you?

Where I used to work was a young lass, about 20, very obese. She had tried all sorts of programs, gone to Weight Watchers for nearly 18 months, etc. She developed sleep apnoea due to her obesity and had to sleep sitting up. She was starting to miss a lot of work because of extreme sleep deprivation, migraines, anxiety and general ill health. Her mother was much larger than she, and when she went home and told her mother about Cohen’s it was really quite threatening to the mother. So Mum said they couldn’t afford it and that the daughter would have to just ‘do the best she could’ to lose weight by herself.

Does your mother support you? Who else in the family is overweight or obese? What about the boyfriend? It is not enough to say you are doing this ‘for you’ if that statement doesn’t sit squarely with you.

When I had my shop, I did a lot of readings and also worked for five years on a 1900 line.

Two influences or factors came up over and over again as a root cause of trouble and problems in people’s lives.

One: Responsibility, and
Two: Loyalty.

We must understand the history of our society to see these factors in context.

One: Responsibility.

Most people will happily ‘take on’ responsibility for other people and their perceived problems. However, in many cases this is to avoid taking responsibility for ourselves.

We cast ourselves in the role of martyr – Oh, the children / our partner / our work – but we may do this to perpetuate the glamour of martyrdom if there is no other glamour in our lives.

Two: Loyalty.

Throughout history the peasants have been used a slave labour, cannon fodder and of no real consequence.

If we are of the working classes – and most of us are (if we don’t work we don’t eat!) – then this mentality is ingrained in us and trained into us from kindergarten onwards.

The Celtic Trilogy of Loyalties is very important, but most people try and balance this on two legs, not three.

The Three Loyalties are Loyalty to Country (this is what sends us off to die in foreign fields / work 80 hours per week for The Company), Loyalty to Family (this is why the hostess always eats the burnt chop / parents volunteer for committees / go to Family Birthdays even when the sight of your Grand Father makes you break out in a sweat rash) and Loyalty to Self.

Woo-haa! Loyalty to Self! Now, there’s a strange thought! Wouldn’t Loyalty to Self make me a Selfish person? No one would like me if I put myself on an equal footing with the other two Loyalties! If I lose weight because I want to – God will strike me dead because I am not allowed to ‘want’ anything. Hussy! How dare you ‘want’ to look good, feel healthy, be sexy! Shame on you.


So, although we may have intellectually decided that we ‘want’ to lose weight and have chosen a program which will deliver the goods – and yes, paid money for the privilege – why are we sabotaging ourselves by adding in an ‘extra’ 5 grams of meat (for Goodness sake – 5 grams! – weigh the darn stuff exactly or not at all), or finding the weekends ‘difficult’ or not being able to eat without sweeteners or thinking that a ‘dollop’ of pickles won’t matter when the program clearly states what can and what can’t be chosen from the shopping list?

It is very difficult to take responsibility for ourselves. It is excruciatingly painful to pay loyalty to ourself.

However, the capacity to be responsible and to be loyal does not exclude other people, but it must include us.

These are the habits of a lifetime. Until we take a really good look at what the word ‘want’ means to us, how we feel when we use the phrase ‘I want’, or if in fact do we dodge and weave around it, and use victim words instead ‘I have to’ or ‘I must’ or do we wait until we face a health crisis then, thank God, we can say ‘the Doctor told me I must lose weight’.

Change is scary stuff. We may lose some friends not because we lose weight, but because we change. We stop being a victim to our obesity and rise up to take control of the only thing we really can control – ourselves.

It is not hard to do, but it is absolutely terrifying to contemplate. Oh My God, I might get hungry! Oh My God I Can‘t Drink All That Water – I Might Need To Go To The Toilet – Oh My God an extra 5 grams / meat pie / pavlova with chocolate sprinkles / whatever won’t hurt, will it?

Nothing in life is to do with money and really, nothing to do with this program has anything to do with food.

We scapegoat the socially acceptable reasons for our failure to take responsibility and failure to give loyalty to ourselves. ‘One bite won’t hurt’ betrays ourselves more than eating the whole bag full ever could.

However, having said that, it is important to learn one more lesson:

Three: Learning to forgive. We are all learning right throughout life, until our last breath we are learning to live. Forgiving ourself is such a liberating and wonderful thing yet most of us will never do it. We must forgive ourself for not being perfect, for failing and being disloyal, but more importantly we must show compassion to our own self, help ourself up, dust ourself off, and start over again.

Whether it is losing weight, raising a family, being in a relationship, making a success of our career or building a fortune, having the faith in ourself that we can do it, that we have the ‘Midas Touch’ and that everything we do or attempt to do will be successful, comes not from some wishy-washy book but from a deep seated conviction that I am worth it.

I am worth taking responsibility for, I am worth being loyal to, I am worth forgiving and I am worth starting over.

Next time you look in the mirror, look past the rolls of fat – look deeply into your eyes, see your brain and your heart. See your fear, see your courage, see your hope. And most of all, see the love you have for yourself.

Give yourself a kiss – lean forward and kiss your self in the mirror. Tell yourself that you love you and will do everything you can to help you make a success of this program. Tell yourself that you really care about what happens to you, how proud you are of you, how much you admire your determination to achieve this goal.

If you cry, that’s good. When was the last time someone important to you told you these things? So tell them to yourself. You are the most important person in your life – you have to be. Without you, there is no life.

So love yourself and be proud of that love.

You really are worth it.



Lotsa love

Chelsea
 
But it's on my list...

It’s lovely to see some recipes, but I’m going to be a kill joy and remind everybody that unless the ingredients are on the Shopping List then do not use them eg white wine vinegar is not on the list, and neither is whole grain mustard nor fresh garlic.

I included white wine vinegar in the dressing for the 'Chicken and Mango Salad' recipe. Sorry everyone...I forget that everyone has slightly different eating plans and allowed foods. My program allows me to have balsamic, apple cider & red & white wine vinegars. It is there in black and white in my program. I am also allowed to have fresh garlic. This isn't in my program, but whilst I was suffereing form a really nasty case of bronchitis, I asked my consultant to check out if I could have it or not. I was given the all-clear :D . I love garlic! The limited amount rule still applies :( .

So, I guess the lesson to learn here is if you choose to get creative with your food and try some other people's recipes - MAKE SURE YOU CHECK AND DOUBLE-CHECK THE INGREDIENTS LIST AGAINST YOUR OWN LIST OF APPROVED FOODS! Most of the time, if the recipe calls for something that you cannot have, there will usually be something else that you could substitute the non-approved ingredient with.

Have a wonderful day everyone!
 
I included white wine vinegar in the dressing for the 'Chicken and Mango Salad' recipe. Sorry everyone...I forget that everyone has slightly different eating plans and allowed foods. My program allows me to have balsamic, apple cider & red & white wine vinegars. It is there in black and white in my program. I am also allowed to have fresh garlic. This isn't in my program, but whilst I was suffereing form a really nasty case of bronchitis, I asked my consultant to check out if I could have it or not. I was given the all-clear :D . I love garlic! The limited amount rule still applies :( .

So, I guess the lesson to learn here is if you choose to get creative with your food and try some other people's recipes - MAKE SURE YOU CHECK AND DOUBLE-CHECK THE INGREDIENTS LIST AGAINST YOUR OWN LIST OF APPROVED FOODS! Most of the time, if the recipe calls for something that you cannot have, there will usually be something else that you could substitute the non-approved ingredient with.

Have a wonderful day everyone!

Well for me I just see Australian list for example includes Snapper, now snapper doesnt occur on my program as I am on the internet program. Halibut apparently a type of flat fish common in alaska is on my program, but I have zero chance of finding it in Japan. However Snapper is a very common fish (bit expensive) in the supermarkets/fish shops, I just love it, like tuna it has a rich taste and it is very high in proteins and Omega-3 oils, an excellent food!

Now the question, because it is not on my program (internet) but it is allowed on Australian program should I eat Snapper?

"Black and White" thinking means that I should just stick 100% to my internet program in due course I will absolutely will reach my goal in the minimum time. However the phrase "A difference that doesnt make a difference, is not a difference", meaning that if in reality doing something else/choosing something else has no practical impact on the result, then it is not a difference worth worring about.

We cannot possibly as individuals know enough about human metabolism and impact of various foods on our bodies, thus we need to "trust" that Dr Cohen plan is backed with more knowledge and experience than we can as individuals can easily learn.

So I am sure others will disagree with me, but I think if any food (such as snapper) occurs on the general program list of allowed foods (rather than special/exceptional cases for individuals) of any standard cohen program then I am will add it to my list, so plan to enjoy Snapper, grilled with some lemon juice (allowance). In another example, Singaporeans are allowed "Meiji" crackers, but these crackers are not on my internet program, yet I am eating Meiji crackers because these crackers are easy to get since Meiji is a japanese company and I live in Japan. If I visit Australia I will go to the supermarket and buy and eat crackers that are on the Australian list because I know I wont find Meiji crackers unless I go to a Japanese supermarket.


Strange but true, in regard to yesterdays deviation; a 1/2 glass of red wine followed by another 1/2 glass :eek: This morning I was dreeding the daily "weigh in", I was expecting a few hundred grams extra on the scales! In fact I experienced the biggest one day loss (800gms) since the start of the program . Before we all start getting cork screws out and uncorking premium australian red wine, understand last week was a slow week thus the 800grams was probably catching up to my average 1.5~1.6KG/week loss, but I was pleasently shocked about it. One day doesnt prove anything, will see if yesterdays deviation does as reduces the rate of weight loss for this week. It would be a foolish self deception to decide that red wine is my ticket to rapid weight loss, 1.5~1.6kg is about the maximum safe long term reduction average given my gall stone problem.

BTW Just as a warning I know that some call me "Professor Lessfatty", this is quite silly to consider me like that, the only thing I know well enough to be paid to do is run large scale computer systems for global companies; I work in IT, you should take anything I say with a grain of diet sweetener.
 
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He He He!

BTW Just as a warning I know that some call me "Professor Lessfatty", this is quite silly to consider me like that, the only thing I know well enough to be paid to do is run large scale computer systems for global companies; I work in IT, you should take anything I say with a grain of diet sweetener.

He he he! "with a grain of diet sweetener". I love it! Thank you for making me laugh...
 
back again

well, hello all.

Finally, i'm back - my internet has been out of action for about 2 weeks :eek: and I have also had my lovely Surfers Paradise holiday. YAy! Talk about relaxing. So, i havent had a chance to read back on the posts, but i'll give it a go!!

hope everyone is well - now i'm back from QLD, back on the program 100% to lose those last 6-8kgs!!
 
1st weigh in

Hi everyone! Hope you are all doing well today.

I just had my first weigh in today and I have lost 10.3kg in the last 4 weeks. I am so thrilled!! I had no idea how much I had lost because I was too terrified to hop on the scales early just in case they didn't show a big loss. I did not want to risk being disheartened at the get go. I know the results won't be this good from now on but its a good start.

I am on my way!!!!
 
Wow!! Powerful words

Hi everyone, hope you all have had a very good weekend.

Chelsea: I read your words and have re-read them a couple of times. Very thought provoking and motivating. Keeping me on track......and very true. :)

Lessfatty: I also had gallstones but didn't realise I had them. I had surgery 3 months ago and dr said he suspected I must have had them for a long time. It was news to me but I think eating the Cohen's way actually helped me as I reacted only when I had a meal with cheese...too rich for the system. I think eating low fat helps to deal with gallstones and has helped me to recover after surgery. But it is also acknowledged that rapid weight loss does also contribute to gallstone formation. I have heard of quite a few people on Cohens who have gallstones. It seems we can't win whatever we do.

tjay: CONGRATULATIONS on your weightloss. That's really fantastic. Keep up the good work.

To everyone, it's great being a LOSER!!!!! ;)
 
before and after photos

I've finally put some photos on a blog - check it out if you like:
 
Ready to loose, what an achievement, congratulations. Only a hand full of kg and you will get to the end. I am still struggling with the last 7kgs. I always find the smallest of excuses to break.
Karol
 
Great work Kelly!!

You look great Kelly - Well done! I love looking at before and after photo's it keeps me going.

About the paradise lights - I've been eating the new Viva's aren't we allowed them. My consultant should ring any day since I just had a blood test, So I'll ask. I just want to finish and don't want to do anything to prolong it. On Wednesday I had a total pig out! I had KFC then a choc, then yummy icecream and I didn't feel guilty. But I'm telling myself thats it, if I want to be finished before Christmas! I will, I will , I will. Tell you though I felt quiet sick the next day and found it harder because I was hungry. I think maybe I have too much Caffine after reading your posts - I was told I'm allowed to have 1 ltr of Pepi Max - I don't drink it everyday, But I would drink my 3 cups of coffee! And the chewies - well lets just say I'm trying to cut down!! hehehe! Oh well. I need to Just Do It! I keep telling myself that I have come a long way, and most people take a whole year just to lose what I have! Thank God for Cohen's, I couldn't handle doing this for a year! Ahhhh! All the best everyone, Hope this week is the best loss in weight yet!:p
 
paradise lites 'vive' NOT ALLOWED!!

I forgot to post this!!! This is the reply i got from the WA clinic about the new paradise lites:

We have asked Dr Cohen about the crispbreads and the new Paradise Lights are not allowed. Here are a few more crispbreads he has said yes to -

Nabisco Premium Crispbread

Nabisco Premium 98% Fat free

Arnott's Salada Original

Arnott’s Salada Light 97% Fat free


I must say I wished I'd been told we could have saladas months ago!! I much prefer them.....

hope this is helpful!
 
CHELSEA,
Try the green slimmers tea from the health food shop for the consumption it is excellent for weight loss too.
Joy
If you want to email me I can send you a picture of what the packet looks like joy@finer.com.au
 
Shrinking Kelly!!!

Hey Kelly,

Great photos. Very inspirational and you look like someone else. Those last few kilos are within your reach - look where you have come from. Congratulations for your fantastic achievement. :D

Hope everyone has a good Cohen day.
 
Wow!!!

I've finally put some photos on a blog - check it out if you like:

WOW Kelly! You are such a gorgeous girl! And getting more and more gorgeous by the day! I love your hat! Thank you for sharing the photos with all of us. It is fantastic to actually 'see' the results of this wonderful program on others who are travelling the same road along side us...It makes the journey easier and more enjoyable...Thank you again and congratulations on your progress!

Wishing all a magical day!
 
READY TO LOSE!!!!

OMG!! You look fantastic!!! Im gobsmacked! Holy mother of god Kelly, you have done such a remarkable job! Well done!!! :)

I hope you enjoyed that holiday to Surfer's.. I myself will be down there hopefully soon to go "Size 12" shopping at Pacific Fair!

You are amazing, thankyou so very much for sharing those pics, it has put me back on the straight & narrow! :) xx
 
thanks guys

hey guys - thanks for the lovely feedback! I know its hard, but if seeing my photos helps any of you then i'm happy. I was at my parents house on sunday and borrowed a jumper from my lovely trendy gorgeous 20 year old sister - AND IT FIT ME!! I still can't get used to that - it was a trendy size 14 surf jumper. so happy!!!! :p
 
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