A Unique Weight Loss Living Style Pattern

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My typical daily food and exercise pattern:

Staple food from Monday to Friday: 700 grams of cake made by 350 gram day corn meal.
Staple food for Saturday and Sunday: 2 lbs of fresh corns or sweet potato.
Broth: made by 1 lb of grounded beef everyday (may vary).
Vegetable: 1 lb to 2 lbs of carrots, potato, etc.
Fruits (not juice): 3 lbs (typical: 2 bananas, 4 large apples, may vary season by season).
Weekend meat: 50 grams weekly (made in general way, not broth, such as fish or chicken).

Major exercise: climb 40 levels of stairs (not 40 steps), 4 to 5 times each week.

I counted the amount of calories of my daily intake, it’s abound 140 to 170% of my daily consumption (exercise considered). My wife takes the pattern too, major differences of her plan from mine: 300 grams of staple foods; 0.5 to 1 lb of vegetables, 4 lbs of fruits, 200 grams of weekend meat, less exercise. Her weight loss effect is worse than mine. But her weight reduced about 10% anyway. I’m not sure what the root causes of the difference of weight loss effect are.

Is it possible? You are highly in doubt. Right, we were expecting weight increasing, our major purpose is to cure heart pain. Result? Heart pain is gone from both of us, with many other health improvements, while body weight reduces.

What is the reason? Mr. Liu’s explanation is: “the cells of the staple foods suggested by the pattern, such as corn, have harder shell, which can’t be easily destroyed by machine while making corn meal and can’t be destroyed by our digestive system. The cells of rice and wheat have thin and weaker shell, and can be destroyed easier by machine or our digestive system. The nutrients in the hard shell can’t be absorbed in high rate, because the carbohydrates in the shell can’t get out easily, while the nutrients in rice and wheat foods can in high rate.” And there is no fat in broth and the vegetable dishes, so losing fat is easier.

Is his explanation scientific? I’m not sure. Again, I don’t see strong scientific support on either side (positive or negative). You can investigate and judge yourself.

But what I know is that the cake made by corn meal tastes dry, and when you eat, you can feel coarse. Does it mean it’s harder for corn meal to absorb water? I’m still not sure. If it is, is then the digestive juice harder to get into the shell of corn cells? You judge.

Warning: please do not follow this pattern blindly, since some DOs and DONTs have not been proved correct yet, while not proved incorrect either. My suggestion for you is to try other plans first. Put this plan at the last one in your alternative list. I’ll post Mr. Liu’s explanations and my thoughts here, with other details of the pattern. You have to make your own judgment before taking it. One thing I can tell is: the plan is safe. We’ve followed it for more that 3 years. We have not found any, tiny negative side impact yet. I’ll report here if any negative. Oh, ya, one thing negative. I can’t wear my good brand pants bought before. And it’s hard for me to buy one now. In adult department, my size usually is not there; while I can’t find proper style in teens department. Pay attention to this impact.
 
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wow. I honestly have no idea what to say about this. I am really at a lost for words. Glancing over it, I just don't know if this is safe or not. Others can look and see if this fits them.
 
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The rule "no fat intake" requested by this pattern was questioned in some posts. To answer this question, I searched web, and found something about fats. In our body, fats, carbohydrates in form of sugar, and protein can be converted to a different form each other by our body. It means that protein and sugar can be converted to fats. I think our body is very smart, it should be able to:

1. Deliver fats from where they are too much to where they are in short, when fats in body is excess; and
2. Convert protein and/or sugar to fats when there is no longer excess fats in our body but fats are in short somewhere in our body, then deliver the generated fats to where they are in short, if it can find enough protein and/or sugar.

If it can do so, then our body will not be lack of fats, while there are too many fats in one’s body. Our body will not be lack of fats either even if there is no excess fat; our body will take protein and sugar to generate, as long as proteins and sugars are enough.

From our practice, looks like it’s possible, because we don’t have any symptoms of fat shortage after 3+ years with very little fat intake.

And if this could be true, then it’s so amazing – we can just eat foods with enough proteins and carbohydrates and no fat, let our body decide. When body fats are too much, it consumes some of them to satisfy our daily needs; and when body fats a just in right amount, it makes fats for us. This way, our body fat level could keep in just enough amount, not in short, and not in excess either. Is it perfect? :)

Assumption again. We all don't like it.
 
You say assumption is something we all don't like but you continue to use words like I believe and could be true.

In other words, instead of giving us proof or scientific facts, you want us to assume facts you state to be true. Sorry, not buying it. I gave you chances to show something to back up the claims and I just don't see it.
 
You say assumption is something we all don't like but you continue to use words like I believe and could be true.

In other words, instead of giving us proof or scientific facts, you want us to assume facts you state to be true. Sorry, not buying it. I gave you chances to show something to back up the claims and I just don't see it.

I made my effort to try to find evidence, but I can’t. Are you asking me to prove what scientists have not yet proved? I’m sorry, I can’t, I’m not so rich like Bill Gates.

I’m trying to explain what is happening on my body, because my practice shows that some of our knowledge may have gap(s).

Are gaps in science strange? I don’t think so. Think about how many drugs have been forced to get out of market. They WERE called scientific before, right?

Why? Sorry, I have to make another assumption. Assume that the amount of total secrets of our live is 100%. How many percentage of all the secrets have scientists found? 1%? 5%? Or 10%? Obviously it’s not 100%, because many diseases can’t be cured, many “scientific” diet plans don’t work for some people. No one can give an accurate estimate of the percentage, because no one knows the total. I would say what we know may be less than 1%. You may say we got 5%, it’s fine. With that little percentage on hands, how can we expect that all our medicine knowledge, or its branch diet knowledge, that are totally based on what you've discovered, happen to be 100% correct? If not 100% correct, why can’t we make assumptions while some claims in current diet plans are not working?

I know you are not buying, that’s what I can’t control. I’m showing message to friends here, so that maybe one day, some tried out all diet plans but got none worked for them, they may remember this pattern. They may further think the pattern should not hurt their health and would give it a try. Buying it or not right now is not what I care.
 
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But the problem is your argument fits with every other fad diet plan on the market today. 'Science hasn't proved it yet but it will'. You are putting it as some special pattern when it really isn't.

If you look at what you are eating and the amounts, you are losing weight cause the calorie count is low. That's it. The lack of fat is the same as the low fat/no fat crazy of the 80's. It is the same as the low carb craze of 90's/2000.

It all still comes to calories in vs calories out.
 
I made my effort to try to find evidence, but I can’t. Are you asking me to prove what scientists have not yet proved? I’m sorry, I can’t, I’m not so rich like Bill Gates.

I’m trying to explain what is happening on my body, because my practice shows that some of our knowledge may have gap(s).

Are gaps in science strange? I don’t think so. Think about how many drugs have been forced to get out of market. They WERE called scientific before, right?

Why? Sorry, I have to make another assumption. Assume that the amount of total secrets of our live is 100%. How many percentage of all the secrets have scientists found? 1%? 5%? Or 10%? Obviously it’s not 100%, because many diseases can’t be cured, many “scientific” diet plans don’t work for some people. No one can give an accurate estimate of the percentage, because no one knows the total. I would say what we know may be less than 1%. You may say we got 5%, it’s fine. With that little percentage on hands, how can we expect that all our medicine knowledge, or its branch diet knowledge, that are totally based on what you've discovered, happen to be 100% correct? If not 100% correct, why can’t we make assumptions while some claims in current diet plans are not working?

I know you are not buying, that’s what I can’t control. I’m showing message to friends here, so that maybe one day, some tried out all diet plans but got none worked for them, they may remember this pattern. They may further think the pattern should not hurt their health and would give it a try. Buying it or not right now is not what I care.

I want to be honest here - it would help your case a lot if you didn't keep saying "Science hasn't proved it yet" when in fact I can find out in a quick google search that they have.

In this case, yes, carbohydrates and even protein can be stored as fat.

However, carbohydrates and protein can not be turned into Essential Fatty Acids (EFA). As the name suggests, EFAs are essential to body function. Therefore you must eat at least some fat to get them, even if it's just from taking fish oil pills.

Also, the amount of fat in your body has nothing to do with how much fat in your diet. If you are eating too many calories, it doesn't matter whether they are from fat or not. The body is self regulating and will add the same amount of body fat either way.

Honestly, I think you'd be better off just saying that the diet is working for you instead of trying to justify it with 'yet to be proved' science. Because there has been a LOT of work done in this field and most of what you're saying can be confirmed or denied with current science.
 
This pattern requires more protein intake. Is it scientific?

How many protein should we absorb everyday then? Scientists now believe that to keep health, the least protein intake should be around 1 gram per kilogram body weight everyday (it varies for different individuals, with or without many physical actions daily, etc). For a person with body weight 60 kgs (132 lbs), s/he should take at least 60 grams of protein everyday. On the other hand, 100 grams of beef contains about 20 grams of protein (it varies for different types of cut). To reach the suggested low limit, the person should eat about 300 grams of beef. That’s about 9.8 ounces everyday. We know intake amount may be less than absorption amount, you may have to eat more than 10 ounces to reach the least amount. Can you eat that many meat everyday, especially when you need to lose weight? I guess no. To me, my heart pain would go worse much faster if I ate more that 1 ounce meat everyday (not in broth form of this pattern), and body weight would be out of control; because too many fats would be ate in. This broth-making method is only one I’ve seen, that can offer enough protein but without fat. And broth should be easier to be absorbed by our digestive system.

Now how do you think of the broth?
 
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This pattern requires more protein intake. Is it scientific?

How many protein should we absorb everyday then? Scientists now believe that to keep health, the least protein intake should be around 1 gram per kilogram body weight everyday (it varies for different individuals, with or without many physical actions daily, etc). For a person with body weight 60 kgs (132 lbs), s/he should take at least 60 grams of protein everyday. On the other hand, 100 grams of beef contains about 20 grams of protein (it varies for different types of cut). To reach the suggested low limit, the person should eat about 300 grams of beef. That’s about 9.8 ounces everyday. We know intake amount may be less than absorption amount, you may have to eat more than 10 ounces to reach the least amount. Can you eat that many meat everyday, especially when you need to lose weight? I guess no. To me, my heart pain would go worse much faster if I ate more that 1 ounce meat everyday (not in broth form of this pattern), and body weight would be out of control; because too many fats would be ate in. This broth-making method is only one I’ve seen, that can offer enough protein but without fat. And broth should be easier to be absorbed by our digestive system.

Now how do you think of the broth?

As you said, As a general rule, between 10 percent and 15 percent of your total calories should come from protein. So, if you consume 2,000 calories per day, at least 200 should come from protein, or about 50 grams. You should try to eat around one gram of protein per one kilogram of body weight, or around 0.4 grams per pound. An easier way to figure this out in your head is to take your weight, divide it in half, and subtract 10. The total will be the number of grams of protein you should consume each day. So, if you weigh 120 pounds, you should eat about 50 grams of protein.


Second: Protein doesn't just come from meat. It comes from a wide range of products so your statement of having to eat that much meat is wrong. One serving of the greek yogurt I like is around 14 grams. I tend to eat two a day so there is 28g. It's not as hard as you make it sound to reach the level needed.
 
This pattern requires more protein intake. Is it scientific?

How many protein should we absorb everyday then? Scientists now believe that to keep health, the least protein intake should be around 1 gram per kilogram body weight everyday (it varies for different individuals, with or without many physical actions daily, etc). For a person with body weight 60 kgs (132 lbs), s/he should take at least 60 grams of protein everyday. On the other hand, 100 grams of beef contains about 20 grams of protein (it varies for different types of cut). To reach the suggested low limit, the person should eat about 300 grams of beef. That’s about 9.8 ounces everyday. We know intake amount may be less than absorption amount, you may have to eat more than 10 ounces to reach the least amount. Can you eat that many meat everyday, especially when you need to lose weight? I guess no. To me, my heart pain would go worse much faster if I ate more that 1 ounce meat everyday (not in broth form of this pattern), and body weight would be out of control; because too many fats would be ate in. This broth-making method is only one I’ve seen, that can offer enough protein but without fat. And broth should be easier to be absorbed by our digestive system.

Now how do you think of the broth?

Someone swallowing 10 ounces of meat everyday isn't an unrealistic expectation. I mean, you HAVE seen the Pam and Tommy Lee video...right?
 
Some DOs and DONTs by this pattern:

All the requirements/suggestions below come from Liu’s book.

1. When preparing meat for cooking broth, do not cook meat first, do not put meat into hot water, do not fly meat either. When cooking by slow cooker, do not hot or warm water, do not add salt or condiments. All those may let protein become polypeptide, which will no longer or hard to hydrolyze into water.
2. When making broth by fish, you should select fresh water fish with scaly.
3. Buy vegetables and fruits with peel only. Cook or eat them after paring peel to reduce the intake of pesticide residue.
4. Drink cold boiled water only. Keep water boiling for 3 minutes to reduce chlorine residue in water. Drink when temperature is down to about room temperature. Do not drink hot or warm water, because the energy brought into your body by hot or warm water may reduce your food-source calories consumption.
5. Yellow corn and its meal are better than white corn and its meal.
6. Glutinous rice is treated as rice, and do not eat it and its product.
7. Do not drink juice bought from market. There are chemicals in it, such as preservative. Manufacturers don’t remove peel, which may add pesticides into juice.
8. Exercise should reach a level where you sweat appropriately.
9. Do not eat candy or staple food made with sugar, do not drink any drink with sugar, do not drink coffee, tea, or alcohol.

Sorry, got busy weekend.
 
I want to be honest here - it would help your case a lot if you didn't keep saying "Science hasn't proved it yet" when in fact I can find out in a quick google search that they have.

In this case, yes, carbohydrates and even protein can be stored as fat.

However, carbohydrates and protein can not be turned into Essential Fatty Acids (EFA). As the name suggests, EFAs are essential to body function. Therefore you must eat at least some fat to get them, even if it's just from taking fish oil pills.

Also, the amount of fat in your body has nothing to do with how much fat in your diet. If you are eating too many calories, it doesn't matter whether they are from fat or not. The body is self regulating and will add the same amount of body fat either way.

Honestly, I think you'd be better off just saying that the diet is working for you instead of trying to justify it with 'yet to be proved' science. Because there has been a LOT of work done in this field and most of what you're saying can be confirmed or denied with current science.

I'm not sure where I said the sentence in bold above, could you refer to the post#? I should not say the sentence like the one in bold. If I did, I will correct.

You are talking about EFAs such as Omega-3 or -6. It negatives a part of my assumption – the assumption might no longer be true when EFAs are lack in one's body, assuming that what we know about EFS is correct.

Original assumption was:

People could live without meat fat intake because body can generate fats when in need.

I would like to correct the assumption to this:

People could live without meat fat intake, as long as they have enough EFA intake, because body can generate non-EFA fats when in need.

Could you live with this one?

For the italic part above: Remember, if the staple foods suggested by the pattern could have lower digestive rate, then the plan based on this pattern should have lower calories absorption. The total calories intake of this plan could be less than consumption by the selected staple food and no meat fat. You are shooting wrong target again.

For the underscore part above: You meant, I should judge the pattern by science and say “no, this pattern shouldn’t work for me based on SCIENCE”, then stop taking it, while it really works for me? :)
 
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Try this..quit making assumptions. Give medical and scientific facts. The problem is, you don't have any and that is where our problem is.

Here on the forum, we always try to give science opposed to throwing things out there. It works for you, but not for the reasons you claim. You are eating a low calorie diet. That is why you are losing weight. It's not cause of low fat. It's not cause of the broth. It's not cause of fresh air or drinking juice. Your total calorie intake is low thus you are losing weight.
 
Try this..quit making assumptions. Give medical and scientific facts. The problem is, you don't have any and that is where our problem is.

Here on the forum, we always try to give science opposed to throwing things out there. It works for you, but not for the reasons you claim. You are eating a low calorie diet. That is why you are losing weight. It's not cause of low fat. It's not cause of the broth. It's not cause of fresh air or drinking juice. Your total calorie intake is low thus you are losing weight.

Here is total calories intake calculation based on the foods I eat daily (typical sample for easier calculation). Please let me know if any is inaccurate.

In the following calculation, the first number is the amount of calories per 100 grams; the second number is the amount of my intake.

Corn meal?335?350 gram?3.5×335=1172.5
Apple?AVG??52?3000 grams?30×52=1560
Beef tendon?151?250 grams?2.5×151=337.5
Grounded beef?123?250gram?2.5×123=307.5
Carrot?25?500 grams?5×25=125
Potato?76?500 grams?5×76=380

Total calories in all foods=1172.5+1560+337.5+307.5+125+380=3882.5

Total fats in daily meat:

Beef tendon?0.5; 250 grams?2.5×0.5=1.25 grams
Grounded beef (80% lean): 5.4?250 grams?2.5×5.4=13.5 grams

Total fat (in grams) = 1.25+13.5=14.75 grams?count as 15 grams.

Calories in removed fats = 9×15 = 135

Total calories intake = total calories in foods - total calories in removed fats
= 3882 - 135 = 3747

My daily calories consumption should be around 2000.

Now it's your turn to explain.
 
Now it's your turn to explain.

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Honest answer? I don't believe your numbers. You are telling us that you have put together a diet that you can eat almost twice your needed calories and lose weight.

You must live in the one spot on earth where biochemistry doesn't work. Maybe gravity pulls less on you where you stand.

Your claim does not fit medical fact. We aren't talking about one little idea. Unless you are burning 1800+ calories extra a day, you are going to gain weight.

Seriously, I'm not believing your claims anymore. The science isn't right. Oh your math is about right but I question the facts behind them.

You are telling me that everyday you eat:
6.6 pounds of apples
over a pound of potatos
over a pound of carrots
half a pound of ground beef
half a pound of beef tendon
slightly under a pound of corn meal

really?
 
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Honest answer? I don't believe your numbers. You are telling us that you have put together a diet that you can eat almost twice your needed calories and lose weight.

You must live in the one spot on earth where biochemistry doesn't work. Maybe gravity pulls less on you where you stand.

Your claim does not fit medical fact. We aren't talking about one little idea. Unless you are burning 1800+ calories extra a day, you are going to gain weight.

Seriously, I'm not believing your claims anymore. The science isn't right. Oh your math is about right but I question the facts behind them.

You are telling me that everyday you eat:
6.6 pounds of apples
over a pound of potatos
over a pound of carrots
half a pound of ground beef
half a pound of beef tendon
slightly under a pound of corn meal

really?

My bad. For some foods, I converted 1+ pound to 1000 grams. Should convert to 500 grams. Corrected calculation (numbers with underscore in bold is modified):

Corn meal (dry)?335?200 grams?3.5×335=670
Apple?AVG??52?1500 grams?15×52=780
Beef tendon?151?250 grams?2.5×151=337.5 (for broth)
Grounded beef?123?250gram?2.5×123=307.5 (for broth)
Carrot?25?250 grams?2.5×25=62.5
Potato?76?250 grams?2.5×76=190

Total calories in all foods=670+780+337.5+307.5+62.5+190=2347.5

Total fats in daily meat:

Beef tendon?0.5; 250 grams?2.5×0.5=1.25 grams
Grounded beef (80% lean): 5.4?250 grams?2.5×5.4=13.5 grams

Total fat (in grams) = 1.25+13.5=14.75 grams?count as 15 grams.

Calories in removed fats from broth = 9×15 = 135

Total calories intake = total calories in foods - total calories in removed fats
= 2347.5 - 135 = 2212.5

Above foods for a day in lbs:

3+ pounds of apples
1+ pound of potato + carrots
1+ pound of grounded beef + beef tendon in form of broth
0.44 pound of dry corn meal (make about 1- lb or 700 to 800 grams of cake)

My daily calories consumption should be (based on a website):

Phase I: from March 2007 to end of 2008. Little/no exercise, use top body weight 138 lbs (actuals: 138 lbs down to 126 lbs). Result:

Maintenance calories: 1686/day
Fat loss calories intake: 1349/day

Phase II: from end of 2008 to now. Exercise: use maximum volume 5 times/week (actual: 4 – 5 times/week), weight: use top value 126 lb (actuals: 126 down to 110). Result:

Maintenance weight calories: 1975 calories/day
Fat loss intake calories: 1580/day
 
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Grounded beef?123?250gram?2.5×123=307.5 (for broth)
Beef tendon?151?250 grams?2.5×151=337.5 (for broth)

Grounded beef? What'd it do, forget to clean it's room again?

And, who in the fuck eats beef TENDON? Waiter, how is your beef tendon this evening? Oh, tough, rubbery and 100% unchewable? Mmm, that sounds good...I think I'll have that.
 
110 pounds?

How tall and old are you because that, my most definitions, is underweight. Since I don't know those other two factors I don't know.
 
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