Velocity Diet-Thinking about doing it

What are you talking about? You'd be getting more than enough protein and healthy fats, including carbs on the V-diet.

Yes, and those are macro nutrients.

Vitamins and minerals, along with anti-oxidants and a variety of other components are not present in this diet.

I know that there are further supplements for a lot of these, but the absorption levels of micro nutrient supplements usually pales in comparison to the absorption of the same nutrients from normal foods.
 
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An extreme fix that completely ignores micro-nutrients for a whole 28 days. That's quite a system shock, regardless whether or not it works.

I'd love to see the level of potentially harmful oxidation occurring in an individual's body on the 28th day of v-diet compared to that of a person who has been eating complete and balanced meals at comparable caloric levels.

I know that it doesn't mean anyone could be internally irreparably harmed by it, but it's something to consider.

Yes, and those are macro nutrients.

Vitamins and minerals, along with anti-oxidants and a variety of other micronutrients are not present in this diet.

I know that there are further supplements for a lot of these, but the absorption levels of micronutrient supplements usually pales in comparison to the absorption of the same nutrients from normal foods.

Thats what multi-vitamin pills were invented for, and its exactly the reason this is a short-term diet ( 28 days ) and not a life style.

Low-Carb Grow! is an MRP, so it has some vitamins and minerals.

And your also supposed to make your weekly meal nutritious, with plenty of veggies/fruits and not make it a junk meal.

You wont die or harm your body for not getting your required servings of fruits and veggies for less than a month.
 
Yeah I don't think I'm going to do it. I'll just stick with what I've been doing. Is a 5.3% drop in bodyfat in 3.5 months good? How can I make it faster while still being safe? More cardio maybe?

Honestly,
It sounds as if you have been doing a good job without this foolish diet. I'm glad to hear that you are going to continue with what has been working for you and not mess up what you have accomplished with a desperate diet you don't need...

Cheers,
Diane
 
" Why does someone who is an average gym rat - not an elite athlete, not a bodybuilder or cover model, not someone who is morbidly obese - have to resort to an " an extreme diet " ?​

Because every average gym rat wants to look like an elite athlete, bodybuilder, and cover model.

I really wouldnt worry about the starvation mode stuff so much. Liquid you could always do a search for Protein Muscle Sparing Fast.
 
Honestly, I think a lot of people that are talking negatively about the V-Diet are missing the point (at least for me). I've spent a few years working hard, eating well, and enjoying the results. I dropped 40 lbs, put on another a 20 in muscle/fat and have fluctuated for a while. I know that I am capable of gaining and losing weight with proper nutrition and training.

From time to time, I look at my training and I wonder, "how can i take this to the next level? Incorporate more oly lifts, complexes, isolations, change rest periods, add cardio, HIIT, NEPA, etc...?" The same thing goes for my diet.

I've messed with calories, macros, carb cycling... they've all worked to a certain extent. Still though, I look at my diet and say, "okay, Lets take it to the next level".

To me, its about testing myself, my capabilities, potential and willpower. I will be trying the V-Diet for myself in a few months time (once the travel schedule will accommodate it). I'm certain I will see some results from it, considering the extreme deficit, so I will try to post my results. I'm sure there's someone who will make sure I follow up on that... :azzangel:
 
The average "gym" rat who is looking to lose a couple % off his body fat doesn't need to, but if someone is having trouble getting under 10% BF then i could see their reasoning for this difficult diet.

It seems to me that if your body is resisting going below 10% despite your best efforts, then perhaps your body is trying to tell you something....it doesn't want to go any leaner. If it gets tougher and tougher to get below 10%, it may be for very good reason....your body is resisting it.

Either that, or that someone is having trouble getting to 10% because they simply aren't working hard enough to get to that bf%. If you are going to tell me it is physically impossible to get to 5% or 6% bf by means of a sound ' food ' diet and solid, hard training, I don't buy it. You can reach that sub 10% goal without having to resort to some ' extreme ' V-day or keto diet - in know, I've done it. It just takes some hard work, eating wholesome normal food and a lot of discipline..........and most of all, patience. I think most average gym rats who resort to ' extreme ' things like this V-diet and keto diet just to drop a few lbs. of fat are either extremely impatient, lazy - or both.

That said, I can see that an " extreme diet " may make sense when getting to a very low fat is part of what you need to do as a vocation and as a result you need to meet fat loss related deadlines ....as with a body builder, fitness model, actor etc. With an average gym rat, there is no compelling fitness / health reason that justifies using " extreme methods " to simply get to sub 10% ....other than vanity of course.;)

I also think any good diet should be a ' sustainable diet ' - a diet that you can embrace for the next 10,000 days...not a ' difficult diet ' that only has a shelf life for the next 28 days cause it's so ' extreme '.

Just like someone who is struggling to get under 10 would try Keto, or someone trying to gain mass and lose bf would try the anabolic diet..both which are called "extreme by others. You don't have to use the V-diet, its just 10x harder, but 10x faster.

That's the same justification you could use to rationalize the use of steroids now it isn't. :rolleyes:
 
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Why would you want to go under 10% anyway, 8-15% is a healthy range. You need fat, are people being to self conscious?
 
Why would you want to go under 10% anyway, 8-15% is a healthy range. You need fat, are people being to self conscious?

Good question.

When you consider that most NHL hockey players - some of the most well conditioned elite athletes in the world IMO - usually average around 9% - 10% body fat, I think the primary reason average gym rats feel the need to get to sub 10% bf has nothing to do with health, but rather boils down to one word....

....vanity.;)
 
Good question.

When you consider that most NHL hockey players - some of the most well conditioned elite athletes in the world IMO - usually average around 9% - 10% body fat, I think the primary reason average gym rats feel the need to get to sub 10% bf has nothing to do with health, but rather boils down to one word....

....vanity.;)

I agree. When it becomes more about cutting a couple percent to get below the recommended BF% than it is about achieving a certain level of fitness and nutrition, you've lost sight of what's really important (regardless whether or not it's important to you), and it then becomes an winless battle against fat when it should be about achieving peak fitness, but not at the expense of overall wellness.
 
Why would you want to go under 10% anyway, 8-15% is a healthy range. You need fat, are people being to self conscious?

Last time i checked 8% is under 10%.

And people want to be under 10% for the obvious reason, you can maintain at 6-7% and still have enough fat to be healthy. Some bodybuilders go down to 3% for events, but thats temporary. thought you knew that.

who would choose to be 15% body fat over 8% lean and hard?
:rolleyes:
 
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I agree. When it becomes more about cutting a couple percent to get below the recommended BF% than it is about achieving a certain level of fitness and nutrition, you've lost sight of what's really important (regardless whether or not it's important to you), and it then becomes an winless battle against fat when it should be about achieving peak fitness, but not at the expense of overall wellness.

The diet is for bodybuilders and people who are trying to sculpt their body, doing it does not mean you are going to become unhealthy.
 
It seems to me that if your body is resisting going below 10% despite your best efforts, then perhaps your body is trying to tell you something....it doesn't want to go any leaner. If it gets tougher and tougher to get below 10%, it may be for very good reason....your body is resisting it.

Either that, or that someone is having trouble getting to 10% because they simply aren't working hard enough to get to that bf%. If you are going to tell me it is physically impossible to get to 5% or 6% bf by means of a sound ' food ' diet and solid, hard training, I don't buy it. You can reach that sub 10% goal without having to resort to some ' extreme ' V-day or keto diet - in know, I've done it. It just takes some hard work, eating wholesome normal food and a lot of discipline..........and most of all, patience. I think most average gym rats who resort to ' extreme ' things like this V-diet and keto diet just to drop a few lbs. of fat are either extremely impatient, lazy - or both.

That said, I can see that an " extreme diet " may make sense when getting to a very low fat is part of what you need to do as a vocation and as a result you need to meet fat loss related deadlines ....as with a body builder, fitness model, actor etc. With an average gym rat, there is no compelling fitness / health reason that justifies using " extreme methods " to simply get to sub 10% ....other than vanity of course.;)

I also think any good diet should be a ' sustainable diet ' - a diet that you can embrace for the next 10,000 days...not a ' difficult diet ' that only has a shelf life for the next 28 days cause it's so ' extreme '.



That's the same justification you could use to rationalize the use of steroids now it isn't. :rolleyes:

Why would you care whether someone uses the V-diet to lose weight? It's their choice.

And your right, i do support steroid use.

Theres nothing wrong trying to get under 10% bf to look good.
 
Last time i checked 8% is under 10%.

And people want to be under 10% for the obvious reason, you can maintain at 6-7% and still have enough fat to be healthy. Some bodybuilders go down to for events, but thats temporary. thought you knew that.

who would choose to be 15% body fat over 8% lean and hard?
:rolleyes:


Phate you ROCK ON!

Me: I care whether I am sub 10% BF.

And, a matter fact, I could care less of peoples opinion to the contrary. Its my opinion that matters. Other opinions dont mean diddly squat to me. I make my goals, I make it happen, and likewise--opinions on this are like butt holes, everyone has one, and its only MINE THAT MATTERS. Other opinions on this subject matter are just utterly not allowed in. My goals are my goals........pffffft.......:p

I am 8% and its because I want it that way. And, healthy as hell. :) Opinions to the contrary.......do not matter squat. Not allowed. One can analyze why all day long, each day, 7 days per week, twice on Sunday, and it will not matter.

I and my "educated" goal matter.

END........:yelrotflmao:

Insert big smiley here: :)

I dont care what definition a person wants to apply to it. Nor feel the need to explain it

Best wishes to ALL! :)


Chillen
 
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Phate you ROCK ON!

Me, I care whether I am sub 10% BF. And, a matter fact, I could care less of peoples opinion to the contrary. Its my opinion that matters. Other opinions dont mean diddly squat to me. I make my goals, I make it happen, and likewise--opinions on this are like butt holes, everyone has one, and its only MINE THAT MATTERS. Other opinions on this subject matter are just utterly not allowed in. My goals are my goals........pffffft.......:p

END........:yelrotflmao:


Chillen

speak the truth brotha.....
 
The diet is for bodybuilders and people who are trying to sculpt their body, doing it does not mean you are going to become unhealthy.

True, but the diet itself, much like the keto diet, isn't exactly a nutritious one, and as it's a quick fix, it's something that an individual would probably have to return to, making it less and less healthy an option the more it's used.

As it was mentioned previously by someone else, why the drastic measures of such a diet (especially mixing metabolic enhancers) when it is perfectly reasonable to achieve similar caloric deficit (and similar results) while maintaining balanced nutrition in a normalized diet and modifying physical training.

I know I'm not going to convince those that don't want to be convinced, because it's apparent that the diet can work if ahered to, so it has its use for those wanting to cut BF like that. That's fine, just trying to provide my views on the diet.

Fun thread today... I win again :). Night all.
 
They might feel that their diet is working, but have they even thought about long term consequences of such drastic diets. They focus on the short term and lose out on the long term picture.
 
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