Velocity Diet-Thinking about doing it

I've taken pills in the past they do wiered things to my heart. What do those pills do that make them so im portant? I want to try the diet. I have no idea if i can even do it, but i'm going to take pictures and post them on here the whole way through and we'll see what happens. And as far as losing muscle as long as i keep close watch on my measurments I can always stop if lose alot of muscle.
 
gotfit said:
It's completely unrealistic for anyone to do this "diet" and expect to retain whatever results you *may* get from it. ( if you don't get sick first....)

You can't live life in this (like your going to walk into a restaurant and order a plate of "metabolic drive"???), and it does teach you anything about balanced eating, so it is inevitable that it will fail.

I eat food, I don't guzzle protein drinks, hydroxycut, creatine, etc... or any of that other crap because if I can't get it in my general food intake then either I'm not eating right, or I shouldn't be eating it at all....

just my opinion......Cheers.......Diane
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Wow...what a breath of fresh air !

Great post Diane ...well said !

Agree 100%.
 
Phate89 said:
It isn't unhealthy either.
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What makes something like this unhealthy is that you are not eating real foods, you are supplementing. It doesn't matter that it is only for 28 days, it promotes yo-yo dieting and I bet you anything that the people who have done this "diet" have not been able to maintain any (if any) results because it isn't realistic and it sets you up for failure.

All it sounds like it is doing is trying to promote itself as a "quick fix". Loose weight fast, get muscle fast....The people that you find on this forum ( and other places) that have maintained a healthy weight and muscular physique are the people who have worked for it.

The whole it is only 28 days and then you transition back to food is *EXACTLY* what they say with the liquid diets....

So......Interested in buying a bridge? :D
 
liquid85 said:
I'm not living life like this, it's a 28 day experiment. I also don't like diet pills and will not be using them. When it's over I'll go back to eating clean like I always do. I'm just using it as a means to finish getting my body fat to about 12% then I'm going to bulk.
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Exactly, and it will get you nowhere. It just sounds like you are looking for a fast way to loose fat and gain muscle and there is no quick recipe for that. It takes work and unless you are willing to learn about proper nutrition and exercise that IS a part of how you live, you will fail.

It's nothing more than a gimmick......
 
gotfit said:
What makes something like this unhealthy is that you are not eating real foods, you are supplementing. It doesn't matter that it is only for 28 days, it promotes yo-yo dieting and I bet you anything that the people who have done this "diet" have not been able to maintain any (if any) results because it isn't realistic and it sets you up for failure.

All it sounds like it is doing is trying to promote itself as a "quick fix". Loose weight fast, get muscle fast....The people that you find on this forum ( and other places) that have maintained a healthy weight and muscular physique are the people who have worked for it.

The whole it is only 28 days and then you transition back to food is *EXACTLY* what they say with the liquid diets....

So......Interested in buying a bridge? :D
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You obviously don't know anything about the V-diet and don't know anyone that have actually tried it out.

Please read : TESTOSTERONE NATION
 
Since I doubt you will read the link i've provided, i'll do you a favor and post the gut of it.

1) Increased fiber intake. Adequate fiber intake is not only healthy, but it may help speed up the fat loss process and provide a feeling of fullness, making it easier to stick with the diet. In the original Fat Fast, Brock used some Metamucil but it wasn't enough. He said he'd use a prescription laxative if he did the diet again. Not necessary!

I'll be using milled flax seeds as a fiber source with perhaps some guar gum, or additional supplemental fiber thrown in if needed. I don't need a drug to poop.

2) More calories and protein. Most people consumed only around 1300 calories per day on the original diet. I don't think it's necessary to go that low. The risk of muscle loss is too great. Remember, we want to lose fat, not muscle weight.

Also, the first diet allowed for only around 160 grams of protein. I'm going to get at least a gram per pound of bodyweight per day, probably more.

3) More carbs. You don't have to eat only ten grams of carbs per day to lose fat. It's unnecessarily harsh, makes getting adequate fiber nearly impossible, and doesn't allow for proper post-workout nutrition (which requires some carbohydrates).

My new version of the diet allows for more carbs, but this is still a low carb plan. I'll never go over 100 grams of carbs per day.

4) High quality, better tasting protein blend. Brock said he had to gag down his protein shakes. No need to do that these days, as there are some really tasty low carb protein powders available. I also think it's silly to use a whey-only supplement. We know now that a blend of proteins is far superior for use as a meal replacement shake.

6) A blend of healthy fats. I hate the taste of flax oil, plus I think salmon oil is superior. Instead of using only flax oil, I'll be using fish oil capsules and milled flax seeds (which are less harsh than pure oil and contain fiber) to get my healthy fats.

7) A once-per-week solid meal. I've found that eating one "cheat" meal per week on a regular diet makes the dieter feel better and gives him or her the willpower needed to stick with the plan. The Velocity Diet, however, is no regular diet. Sorry, there will be no cheat meals.

Instead, I'm going to have a nice bowl of natural oatmeal with blueberries once per week, probably on Saturday morning. This "real food" break will help me retain sanity and willpower, plus it'll provide a nice shot of healthy nutrients. The rest of the day though, it's back to protein shakes.
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Protein

I'll consume, at the very least, one gram of protein per pound of bodyweight, most likely more, but not so much that I exceed my upper calorie limit.


Carbs

I'll consume more carbs on weight training days and less on non-weight-training days, but I'll never exceed 100 grams per day.


Fat

I'll get my healthy fats from flax and fish oil and not sweat the details.
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A yo-yo diet is a quick and easy fix, usually from crash dieting. This is not a crash diet, you are getting all the necessary fats/carbs/protein's just from an alternate source.

People have and are able to maintain their results even after the V-diet.

Pictures like these speak for themselves
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gotfit said:
Exactly, and it will get you nowhere. It just sounds like you are looking for a fast way to loose fat and gain muscle and there is no quick recipe for that. It takes work and unless you are willing to learn about proper nutrition and exercise that IS a part of how you live, you will fail.

It's nothing more than a gimmick......
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I do know how to eat properly. It's an experiment. I'm going to document it the whole way. If within a week i can't do it or my arms shrink or somthing I'll quit. But if it works when I come off the diet if I'm still eating in a deficit I won't gain anything back but a little water weight, which is expected. It sounds drastic but I really don't think it's going to kill me or even come close to that. As far as hard work I know all about that, read my first post. I did that all with a 500 calorie deficit and working my but off. I'm in no way advicating this as a life choice. We'll just see what happens.
 
Phate89 said:
You obviously don't know anything about the V-diet and don't know anyone that have actually tried it out.

Please read : TESTOSTERONE NATION
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Actually, I had already seen your last post about this diet (you know, the one to the woman who wanted to loose weight in a month because she was going on vacation?) and went to the site and read all about it.

I was as horrified then as I am now about it.

I stand by what I say.....

Cheers,
Diane
 
Derwyddon said:
reading comprehension FTW.

First off, phate, t-nation isn't god.

Secondly, what I said was you lose more muscle without the pills.

And no matter what anyone tells you, you're not losing purely fat on the V-diet.
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Your right, your never losing "pure" fat, but on the V-diet you'd probably lose the least amount of muscle.

T-nation is GOD
 
gotfit said:
Actually, I had already seen your last post about this diet (you know, the one to the woman who wanted to loose weight in a month because she was going on vacation?) and went to the site and read all about it.

I was as horrified then as I am now about it.

I stand by what I say.....

Cheers,
Diane
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Then I hope you a have a happy existence, continue lifting your life in ignorance !

I've posted all the info i needed for any sane and logical person to see a V-diet is a not a crash diet, and that successfull results have come out of it and have been maintained, so i wont bother replying again, wont get involved in a full-fledged fight.
Results speak for themselves, if your too close-minded to listen to something new than im sorry for you
 
Derwyddon said:
See this is what I don't get about people. Why do people go onto forums and ask questions, then when people don't say what they want, it becomes obvious their mind was already made up. Instead of saying "should i do it?" you should've said "i'm doing it, any advice?"
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I value the resonses and your advice, But I never asked If I should, i just asked for info about it.
 
liquid85 said:
I do know how to eat properly. It's an experiment. I'm going to document it the whole way. If within a week i can't do it or my arms shrink or somthing I'll quit. But if it works when I come off the diet if I'm still eating in a deficit I won't gain anything back but a little water weight, which is expected. It sounds drastic but I really don't think it's going to kill me or even come close to that. As far as hard work I know all about that, read my first post. I did that all with a 500 calorie deficit and working my but off. I'm in no way advicating this as a life choice. We'll just see what happens.
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It's an excuse to see if you can loose weight fast....thinly veiled I might add.....
 
Derwyddon said:
How in the world do you think the v-diet makes you lose the least amount of muscle compaired to a more steady approach? because chris shurgart said so?
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TESTOSTERONE NATION

Because Chris Shugart and Christian Thib's said so.

28 Days Later

For a month I consumed almost nothing but low-carb protein shakes, healthy fats and fiber supplements. Once a week I ate a solid, healthy meal. I lifted weights three times per week using a full-body workout. I did no traditional "cardio," but I did go for fast, daily walks. My main supplements were Maximum Strength HOT-ROX, Low-Carb Grow!, and Surge.

The results? In only 28 days I dropped 16 pounds and over two inches off my waist! I lost no visible muscle and even added strength in a couple of exercises. My abs are more visible than they ever have been, but because I retained my muscle mass, I'm not skinny looking; rather, I look hard and athletic. Last weekend, I had to buy several pair of new pants. In other words, the crazy diet was a huge success!
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As many may know, I used to weigh a whopping 240 pounds. Thanks to T-Nation and MWA, I lost 100 pounds between the old T-Dawg Diet and theV-Diet.
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Call it a crash diet, extreme diet, what ever the fk you want, all i can say this diet works. The people that insult the diet are the ones that can't handle it or are just ignorant.
 
Derwyddon said:
Ohhhh. You mean the guys who make money if you buy the suppliments?
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Sure they make money, thats their business, but that does not take away their credibility. Coach Thib's is a world renowned fitness and bodybuilding coach and i take his word and advice over yours.
 
Phate89 said:
A yo-yo diet is a quick and easy fix, usually from crash dieting. This is not a crash diet, you are getting all the necessary fats/carbs/protein's just from an alternate source.
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Too funny !

Surely you aren't going to argue that this V-diet thing is anything BUT a " quick and easy fix " are you ?:yelrotflmao:

Why does taking 5 shakes a day allegedly yield superior outcomes to 5 normal food based meals of identical macro nutrient / calorie profiles....in other words what is the physiological rationale for opting for shakes over food ?

Also, in your T-nation link, the author suggests a 193 lb. person in this V-diet consume........

- 1400 calories on non-training days

- 1,700 calories on training days​


...aren't these very close to if not below what you might expect a BMR for someone of 193 lb.to be ...i.e around 1,900 calories ? At these very low 1,400 - 1,700 calorie levels, you're close to triggering some sort of ' starvation ' reaction from your body don't you think ?
 
Wrangell said:
Too funny !

Surely you aren't going to argue that this V-diet thing is anything BUT a " quick and easy fix " are you ?:yelrotflmao:

Why does taking 5 shakes a day allegedly yield superior outcomes to 5 normal food based meals of identical macro nutrient / calorie profiles....in other words what is the physiological rationale for opting for shakes over food ?

Also, in your T-nation link, the author suggests a 193 lb. person in this V-diet consume........

- 1400 calories on non-training days

- 1,700 calories on training days​


...aren't these very close to if not below what you might expect a BMR for someone of 193 lb.to be ...i.e around 1,900 calories ? At these very low 1,400 - 1,700 calorie levels, you're close to triggering some sort of ' starvation ' reaction from your body don't you think ?
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A quick fix? Sure. A easy fix? No.

And yep, it is an extreme diet, but its been proven to work.
 
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