For f**k sake, why do you always get the yeti.
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For f**k sake, why do you always get the yeti.
Amen to that.
LMAO, sometimes im positive your an English lad. Because you seem to talk in a similar way...
I wouldnt of thought americans would say ''sloppy seconds'' because we say that around here.
And yea f**k it then, ill have sloppy yeti seconds. Its my first Yeti though.....any tips? Anything i should be aware of?
I am 100% Scottish. I missed the accent by 1 generation. My dad used to yell at me with it.
Aye boy!! Goddammit get your arse back to schoo boy! Leave that bloo'y whiskey alone boy!!!
Also lunch was called dinner and dinner was always called supper at my house. LOL
Wow, let's get this thread back on topic please...
So anyway, in response to woodt's post a few pages back. My comment wasn't directed at anyone in particular. There are a lot of people that bring up the animal argument in general.
As for your thing about love and sex. Being straight, gay, lesbian, bisexual whatever is more than just about sex. It is an emotional and sexual preference for a particular gender. I would assume that people who want to get married to each other are in love with each other. Some people just prefer to fall in love with someone of the same gender, there's nothing wrong with that.
So anyway, in response to woodt's post a few pages back. My comment wasn't directed at anyone in particular. There are a lot of people that bring up the animal argument in general.
As for your thing about love and sex. Being straight, gay, lesbian, bisexual whatever is more than just about sex. It is an emotional and sexual preference for a particular gender. I would assume that people who want to get married to each other are in love with each other. Some people just prefer to fall in love with someone of the same gender, there's nothing wrong with that.
Let's hope they recognize that ^^^^sexual Americans have the same civil / equality rights as any heterosexual American.
Isn't that what the U.S. Constitution is all about after all ?
Equality ?
All Americans are created equal ...and have equal rights ?
I find it interesting that a ballot supporting a constitutional amendment to ' restrict ' rights would be something freedom loving Americans would tolerate.
But assuming such an amendment to restrict Americans' rights passes in November...could the amendment then be challenged in federal court as being unconstitutional ?
How would you say the American democratic system ensures minority rights are protected then ?
realworksuks explains why gay people are gay
First I would like to say that I have a neutral stance on gay marriage, I couldn't care less what other people do...
So I have met a few gay people in my life and all of them have very unloving fathers.... they always hate their fathers.
MY THEORY:
A ^^^^sexual lifestyle is an unconsious choice that happens depending on your environment. I think the thing that triggers this unconscious choice is that they grew up with very little male affection but they always craved it. Things like a kid achieving something great but the father doesn't give any approval etc. The father beating the kid, the father refusing to do any types of affection toward his son..... things like that.
The child naturally wants this affection and approval from his father but never gets it so unconsiously he chooses a homesexual lifestyle in search of that elusive male affection...
and that is my theory! I would like to hear some thoughts on that..
First I would like to say that I have a neutral stance on gay marriage, I couldn't care less what other people do...
So I have met a few gay people in my life and all of them have very unloving fathers.... they always hate their fathers.
MY THEORY:
A ^^^^sexual lifestyle is an unconsious choice that happens depending on your environment. I think the thing that triggers this unconscious choice is that they grew up with very little male affection but they always craved it. Things like a kid achieving something great but the father doesn't give any approval etc. The father beating the kid, the father refusing to do any types of affection toward his son..... things like that.
The child naturally wants this affection and approval from his father but never gets it so unconsiously he chooses a homesexual lifestyle in search of that elusive male affection...
and that is my theory! I would like to hear some thoughts on that..
Ive changed the words inline with television really. Bitch is now allowed, derogatory terms toward hom0sexuals arent. I guess the actual blockage of hom0 is dumb. But the others will remian.
I've heard of this theory, but how do you explain brothers who lived with the same father under the same conditions, but one is gay and the other isn't. What about gay men who had good relationships with their fathers? They do exist. And how do you account for lesbian women? Did they have bad relationships with their mothers?
I can understand why some people follow this theory, but I think there's a lot more going on than we understand. I personally don't like to think of it as a problem or something hat was caused by something going "wrong". To me, it's not wrong, it's just different. So really, it doesn't matter to me why some people are attracted to the same sex, opposite sex, both sexes or neither. They just are who they are, and that's fine.
Same here....when I hear intelligent arguements presented by persuasive people arguing both sides, each make points and I can't seem to make a decision....but that's likely because it doesn't affect me nor do I really care al that much.
I think it can happen two ways....
One is the way you mention, as a result of their upbringing, abusive background, unloving father, etc. Call this Condition-Imposed. I'm inclined to believe this isn't the majority of the cases.
I believe the majority of the time it's a biological thing, Genetically Imposed. The human mind is a very complex & complicated thing (yes, even Kraken's
) and there are more things about it that we don't understand then we do. I believe there is a genetically predisposed inclination embedded in each of us. Just as some of us enjoy sweets, spicy food or other personal taste....so too do we have an inclination towards a particular gender and by design it's usually the combination that promotes procreation. Myself, I have a HUGE thing for woman (pun intended).....seeing one in a stunning evening gown, strappy high heels or some sexy outfit...I can feel the hormones doing their thing in my body: I am aroused & attracted to woman. This, of course, is conducive to human procreation and pretty much consistent with genetic design. I think, every now & then, something gets mis-wired in someone's head and they end-up with the wrong program. It's just the way it is...some men get wired to want a man, and some woman are wired to want a woman.
As a side-note, "straight women's" interest in women is a different story...woman have beautiful bodies and EVERYONE finds a beautiful woman alluring. There are only 2 kinds of woman; those who are admittedly bi-curious and those who are in denial of it.....and science tells us all woman are only 2 drinks away from a good time!
Same here....when I hear intelligent arguements presented by persuasive people arguing both sides, each make points and I can't seem to make a decision....but that's likely because it doesn't affect me nor do I really care al that much.
I think it can happen two ways....
One is the way you mention, as a result of their upbringing, abusive background, unloving father, etc. Call this Condition-Imposed. I'm inclined to believe this isn't the majority of the cases.
I believe the majority of the time it's a biological thing, Genetically Imposed. The human mind is a very complex & complicated thing (yes, even Kraken's
Myself, I have a HUGE thing for woman (pun intended).....seeing one in a stunning evening gown, strappy high heels or some sexy outfit...I can feel the hormones doing their thing in my body: I am aroused & attracted to woman. This, of course, is conducive to human procreation and pretty much consistent with genetic design. I think, every now & then, something gets mis-wired in someone's head and they end-up with the wrong program. It's just the way it is...some men get wired to want a man, and some woman are wired to want a woman.
As a side-note, "straight women's" interest in women is a different story...woman have beautiful bodies and EVERYONE finds a beautiful woman alluring. There are only 2 kinds of woman; those who are admittedly bi-curious and those who are in denial of it.....and science tells us all woman are only 2 drinks away from a good time!
Interesting, I agree with a lot of this. However, about most women being bi-curious, I think this is probably true but only because our society allows it. The same probably goes for men, but it gets conditioned out of them at an early age. The theory is that the social conditioning men go through when they learn how to be "real men" causes them to lose touch with others of their own sex and they fear being attracted (not sexually) to the male figure. They learn to stop admiring their sports heroes and start getting interested in women, or else... You see it in the media all the time. True, the female body is a beautiful thing and it sells a lot of stuff. Clearly all of the ads with attractive women are a perfect example, but we see less use of the male body, which I believe is attractive, in advertising and entertainment. Maybe it's just the fear of male ^^^^sexuality or maybe it's because men usually have more financial power and are the target audience. I don't know. I just say humans are attractive, period. When comparing the male and the female body, one isn't more beautiful to me. Although, sexually, I'm attracted to men. Attraction and appreciation don't always have to be sexual...
Again this is just a theory, not an attack on anyone's world view... I just thought it might be fun to discuss.
Okay, now I think I've sufficiently ranted off topic.
Men who see good looking men are often more threatened than attracted to them. Especially when they are chatting up their girlfriend who has said two drinks in her. That's biology.
I can see how people are born gay. Today there was this little boy at my pool who was singing The Little Mermaid songs like he was wearing a purple bra made of seashells.
I can see how people are born gay. Today there was this little boy at my pool who was singing The Little Mermaid songs like he was wearing a purple bra made of seashells.
I don't think you've "ranted" off-topic at all, quite the opposite and to your credit!
Allow me to draw on something else. Right now we're on a historic brink in that we have both a female presidential candidate AND a black presidential candidate. We've all seen the statue of the blinded-lady who stands with a balance-scale in her hand....the notion is that she's impartial to anything but the truth...or something like that (you know what I mean). The fact is, we should be evaluating these presidential candidates on their platforms...what they believe in, what they are bringing to the table and what they stand for in terms of their policy, etc. The fact that they might be black or female should mean NOTHING.
In a similar manner we equally must delineate between our acceptance of ^^^^sexuality and the notion of their legal rights to get married. If man and woman have equal rights under the law and neither are legally seen as being superior or inferior to another, then why can we allow only a certain combination of genders to be legally married and not another? And at the same time marriage is defined as the holy matrimony between a man and a woman...or something like that. It's a tough call....but my point is that our own personal acceptance or rejection of ^^^^sexuality should not be a factor in the legal issue. I see two woman going at it and it's a turn-on...so it's cool to let them get married, yet two men (ughhhh) going at it is revolting so it's not okay. Fact is, it shouldn't have a bearing...this should all be evaluated on a human rights level.
It isn't all that different from abortion....on one hand is a person's right to their own body and on the other the fact that they're taking a life...but at what point does that life become a life?
That's part of the world we live in....it's both horrible & beautiful all at the same time and in a couple billion years when the sun goes supernova and consumes our planet, it all won't matter. There is only one constant, and that is chocolate.
He didnt go out and buy the movies himself.
I think you are completely missing the point I was trying to make.
Kraken said he believe people aren't 'born gay.' As in, it isn't natural to want to have sex with/be attracted to people of the same sex.
I was saying that nature shows that it is natural to want to have sex with beings of the same sex, as it happens. Thus, as most beings don't have sex for pleasure/love, they are doing it because naturally they have been made that way.
Nothing to do with: love; sex with animals; h.omophobia; gay marriages; california etc etc.
So is the concept for sex not to have children initially? And if the pure purpose of sex is to procreate offspring...what is the purpose of non-heterosexual relationships?
I dunno'...
perhaps nothing at all won't change. I guess originally I was thinking that more ^^^^sexual male couples would get married and then show their affection out in public which I think is totally...eh nevermind.
Then again, if the purpose of them getting married is to get more tax cuts, insurance, etc. then there's nothing about love in this. I'm not sure about anyone else but my experience with non-heterosexual couples is they last far less long than heterosexual couples.
I guess I'm just getting irritated at all this "equal rights" happenings. More reforms for illegal immigrants, legal marriages for non-heterosexuals, welfare for non-working, drug dealing, baby having citizens, and tons of scholarships for the non-white individual.
I dunno'...
perhaps nothing at all won't change. I guess originally I was thinking that more ^^^^sexual male couples would get married and then show their affection out in public which I think is totally...eh nevermind.
Then again, if the purpose of them getting married is to get more tax cuts, insurance, etc. then there's nothing about love in this. I'm not sure about anyone else but my experience with non-heterosexual couples is they last far less long than heterosexual couples.
I guess I'm just getting irritated at all this "equal rights" happenings. More reforms for illegal immigrants, legal marriages for non-heterosexuals, welfare for non-working, drug dealing, baby having citizens, and tons of scholarships for the non-white individual.