Yay for California!

I dont want to get started on the race equlaity thing but people in this thread (not naming namez) should come to new zealand and experience the most PC country in the world where tagging is now and expression of art and Maori get free health care subsidies because they are maori! I am 1/8 maori and I get free health care and cheaper education I dont think it is right but I aint complaining.

What I am trying to say is there are always going to be problems with equality regarding anything to do with two different opinions. I think we just have to suck it up and stop whining.
 
He didnt go out and buy the movies himself.

My sister loved The Little Mermaid when she was small. So I ended up watching the movie quite a bit. I never pretended to be Ariel, though. I, on the other hand, distinctly remember popping a boner at the underlying eroticism of Ursula mind controlling Ariel or whatever. That ^^^^ was hawt.

What I wanted to point out was the inherent femininity some people are born with. That kid probably relates better to women than he does men. He may or may not love the ^^^^ in the future. You can't deny that some boys are born feminine. It's an easy step to see that they were probably born closer to being gay than straight.

Gays are present in all cultures. American culture allows them to be more visible, that's all.
 
So is the concept for sex not to have children initially? And if the pure purpose of sex is to procreate offspring...what is the purpose of non-heterosexual relationships?

I dunno'...
perhaps nothing at all won't change. I guess originally I was thinking that more ^^^^sexual male couples would get married and then show their affection out in public which I think is totally...eh nevermind.

Then again, if the purpose of them getting married is to get more tax cuts, insurance, etc. then there's nothing about love in this. I'm not sure about anyone else but my experience with non-heterosexual couples is they last far less long than heterosexual couples.

I guess I'm just getting irritated at all this "equal rights" happenings. More reforms for illegal immigrants, legal marriages for non-heterosexuals, welfare for non-working, drug dealing, baby having citizens, and tons of scholarships for the non-white individual.


I think most same sex couples who are getting married aren't doing it for tax reasons. You can get those benefits from a domestic partnership. I think it so they can actually be married. That way it's a sign of their spiritual and emotional commitment rather than just a legal one. I also think same sex couples will have a lower divorce rate since I think more will be getting married for love than most heterosexual couples who do it for show or because they accidentally got pregnant.
 
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You'd fit right in

Except I can care less about white America this and white America that. I guess you've never been behind someone getting food stamps who didn't even know how to use the card correctly because the instructions on the machine were written in English and then walk out to their BMW. Meanwhile, the middle class person behind them (I'm not necessarily referring to myself) paid full price for their groceries.

You know what else sucks=social security. I want my damn money placed into a private interest bearing account and none of it to touch social security. And I don't want a darn thing from social security when I'm retiring. I also don't want to pay into medicare.

I get sick and tired of reverse descrimination when every other person except a caucasion can get money based on their skin color to go to school.
 
I think most same sex couples who are getting married aren't doing it for tax reasons. You can get those benefits from a domestic partnership. I think it so they can actually be married. That way it's a sign of their spiritual and emotional commitment rather than just a legal one. I also think same sex couples will have a lower divorce rate since I think more will be getting married for love than most heterosexual couples who do it for show or because they accidentally got pregnant.

I'm only coming from the just below a dozen non-heterosexual couples I know whom are happy about the ruling in California. Their responses to me are that now they can get married to get more money at the end of the year.

I'm sorry, Spicey, but I think you're romanticizing this a bit more than it really is. There's not this huge spiritual oneness that gay couples feel unlike ungay couples and now that they can get married there's a brilliance of beautiful.

Then again...I might just be a hater.

I'm just saying that I can't wait until polygeny is legal cause there are these two girls that share this wonderful emotional connection with each other and me and we want to make it legal.
 
Socioeconomic middle class people have much less opportunities open for them. Tends based on race are superficial. If you're poor enough or rich enough, it doesn't matter what race you are. You can get handouts and whatnot. If you're middle class, it doesn't matter what race you are-- you're pretty much screwed when it comes to taxes, free money, and free handouts.
 
I think most same sex couples who are getting married aren't doing it for tax reasons.

I would agree.

Same sex couples simply want to have the same civil rights - i.e marriage for civil purposes.....the legal right to marry - as opposite-sex couples do. It has nothing to do with taxes.

Legalizing same sex marriage represents a simple issue of reaffirming equality rights and the prohibition of discrimination IMO.
 
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I'm only coming from the just below a dozen non-heterosexual couples I know whom are happy about the ruling in California. Their responses to me are that now they can get married to get more money at the end of the year.

Assuming a heterosexual couple can get married for the same reason ( " more money at the end of the year " ) - I suppose non-heterosexual couples simply don't want to be discriminated against having the right to enjoy that same sort of ' tax ' benefit as a heterosexual married couple does.
 
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What are you spewing?

That "spew" that you're incapable of comprehending happens to be a pretty sound point of view. It's not the governments place to decide who can and can't get married (in a "spiritual" sense). If they get the same tax benefits and legal rights from a domestic partnership, then that's where the governments involvement should end. "Marriage" itself is a recognition of the church, and therefore, should be decided by each individual church.

As for the equal rights stuff, it's complete crap that "equal rights" has turned into "extra benefits".

I get sick and tired of reverse descrimination when every other person except a caucasion can get money based on their skin color to go to school.

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If marriage is so religious, then why are atheists allowed to marry? Why are we allowed to get married in a courthouse instead of a church? Why dont' we have to sign a statement of religion before marriage?

Let me clear up my point of view... I am personally okay with same sex marriages, I think they deserve the same rights as any married couple. My issue is WHY do they need to be "married" if the government grants the same rights to a "domestic partnership".

All in all, its the "Yay for California" thing that bugs me... They pretend to be all about equal rights for everyone, when really they're just constantly catering to minorities. there are schools in CA now that allow boys in girls bathrooms and girls in boys in bathrooms, because they have the "right" to be confused about their gender/sexual orientation... but what about every other kids' rights to take a pee without another boy/girl curiously staring at them?!?
 
I doubt girls would be using the urinals. If there were two rooms full of stalls and you needed to take a ^^^^, and one room was full/dirty, wouldn't you go to the other one? I would. And the coed bathrooms are a better idea for children than for adults. On one hand, you have the possibility of rape or predation. On the other, you have a kid that just needs to make peepee.

Anyway...
 
Let me clear up my point of view... I am personally okay with same sex marriages, I think they deserve the same rights as any married couple. My issue is WHY do they need to be "married" if the government grants the same rights to a "domestic partnership".

Because, as you said, " they deserve the same rights as any married couple " - it is a matter of equality and civil rights.

According to California, a ban on same-sex ' marriage ' violates those rights.

All in all, its the "Yay for California" thing that bugs me... They pretend to be all about equal rights for everyone, when really they're just constantly catering to minorities.

Members of minorities in the U.S. have the same civil rights as members of a majority in the U.S.
 
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