Weight-Loss Which protein shake to use?
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cstott282
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sorry.. wow im on a bunch of other forums and i hate when people ask stupid questions and such. but the forums im on i know a lot about the main focus of the forum.. here im new and it sucks lol i hate having to ask a lot of questions.i hate being the n00b... ,
but anyway... would it be something you would take if your trying to lose weight, or is this something that you use when your trying to bulk up...
but anyway... would it be something you would take if your trying to lose weight, or is this something that you use when your trying to bulk up...
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Brown_Eyed_Girl
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I have been dieting on and off for about 3 years I suppose.
Maybe I should have said lowered my metabolism. I suppose like everyone who has lost weight I am terrified of putting some back on. Would love to get the last few pounds down before trying to stabilise, but if you think a break would be better who am I to argue
Sorry I do feel that I am taking this totally off topic here ........ but what would you advise ???
Maybe I should have said lowered my metabolism. I suppose like everyone who has lost weight I am terrified of putting some back on. Would love to get the last few pounds down before trying to stabilise, but if you think a break would be better who am I to argue
Sorry I do feel that I am taking this totally off topic here ........ but what would you advise ???
First let me say, we certainly welcome questions here. Nobody is expected to know everything about everything. It's impossible. So please understand my intent was not to ward off questions such as this. Rather, it was to help you see that you might not truly understand what whey really is, as noted below.
If you eat dairy, you eat whey. Whey is found naturally in the foods that we eat. If you aren't getting enough protein in through whole, natural foods.... then supplementing with a whey protein powder may be called for.
It doesn't have any magic to it though. It doesn't promote fat loss, per se. Think of it as just another macronutrient. You have your fats, carbohydrates, and your proteins.
I might add, protein is important when dieting, in general. It promotes muscle maintenance during energy deficient times.
Please, if you have questions, feel free to ask. Anything.
I have been dieting on and off for about 3 years I suppose.
Maybe I should have said lowered my metabolism. I suppose like everyone who has lost weight I am terrified of putting some back on. Would love to get the last few pounds down before trying to stabilise, but if you think a break would be better who am I to argue
Sorry I do feel that I am taking this totally off topic here ........ but what would you advise ???
So how sure are you of your caloric intake. You said you are taking in 1000-1200 calories daily. How sure are you?
You say you've had breaks. How many? Were they long? When was the last?
What is your current weight?
Brown_Eyed_Girl
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Well I log everything I eat on Fitday, I am 5ft 3in and aged 39. I started at 17 stone and am now 11 but would like to get down to 10. By breaks I mean I have taken the odd week off from time to time but find I immediately put on myabe 5 - 6 lbs. My last break was a weekend off about 3 weeks ago. Sometimes I feel like I am chasing my tail. Another thing that has hampered my progress is a thyroid problem which was diagnosed a couple of years ago but seems to have stabilised with medication over the last 6 months. Thanks for all your help and advice Steve
and am now 11 but would like to get down to 10. By breaks I mean I have taken the odd week off from time to time but find I immediately put on myabe 5 - 6 lbs. My last break was a weekend off about 3 weeks ago. Sometimes I feel like I am chasing my tail. Another thing that has hampered my progress is a thyroid problem which was diagnosed a couple of years ago but seems to have stabilised with medication over the last 6 months. Thanks for all your help and advice Steve
Well I log everything I eat on Fitday, I am 5ft 3in and aged 39. I started at 17 stone
Assuming your metabolic rate isn't drastically skewed from the thyroid issue, I really recommend upping your cals to get things back on track in terms of metabolic rate.
If you are barely losing weight by consistently eating 1000 calories per day, the various survival adaptations have really kicked in, in response to your either prolonged or extreme dieting.
By eating more, you probably won't lose weight, even though there is a chance. You shouldn't view it as a weight loss tool. Instead, it is a fix to an issue that is currently slowing, if not hindering, your current weight loss progress. Follow me?
Right now you are 150ish lbs. I would like to see you work your way up to 2000ish calories over time. I certainly don't expect you jump up to it immediately. You have to do it on a slow consistent basis to let your metabolism keep up with the increase in caloric intake.
Suppose you are eating 1200 calories per day now.
I would start next week with the following:
Week 1 - 1400
Week 2 - 1650
Week 3 - 1900
This is simply an example. Depending on your body's response, you might want increase calories at 2 week intervals instead of 1 week intervals.
It should be apparent that tracking weight and measurements during this time period is crucial. This is so, because there is no science to it. It's a touch and go process. You have mold your dietary responses around your bodily responses.
Why do I recommend this?
You are already eating less than 8 calories per pound of body weight. That is low. How is the progress coming along currently. Is the weight steadily falling? I think you indicated you are having problems right now.
By eating such a low amount, you are putting yourself between a rock and a hard place with no room to wiggle. You can't/shouldn't cut calories anymore, but your metabolic adaptations may have created an atmosphere where you are at a new, unusually low maintenance level where you neither gain nor lose by eating 1200 calories per day.
So you either starve yourself more, which I highly suggest avoiding, or you "reset" some of the metabolic adaptations that have occurred during your prolonged diet.
What you are eating is also important, so it might be a good idea to check this out too. Calories are ultimately most important. However, macronutrient selection/quantity is also important.
Brown_Eyed_Girl
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I suppose this is where we get back on topic .......... this was my reason for having a protein shake in the morning, it helped reduce my cals more and I thought from a good source.
Would you think that by increased my cals as you described I would lose weight, or is the increased cals just temporary to increase my metabolism ??
My food sources are good ........ I think
I genuinely feel I have retrained myself over that last few years, I no longer eat white bread or pasta or any processed foods. My diet consists of wholemeal bread or pasta, fruit protein shakes, oats, milk, lean meats, some cheese etc
Yea, but again, macronutrients come second to caloric intakes.
With your above rational, that means you could eat 500 calories per day, yet, if they came from good things like lean proteins, you'd be fine. It doesn't work like this.
The deeper you go into caloric deficits, the more your body is going to resist you. Eventuallly, it becomes impossble to lose more weight without dropping calories even more.
However, you are already very low in caloric intake, hence my above comment about putting yourself between a rock and a hard place with no room to wiggle.
As I said above, raising your cals shouldn't be viewed as a weight loss tool.
Rather, it's a tool to get things "geared" properly to help future weight loss. It gets you out from that rock and hard place.
Reverses the various physiological survival adaptations that have occurred from your diet, one of them being metabolic slowdown.
My food sources are good ........ I think
Where's your good fats?
I first set my calorie goal. I then set my protein goal. I then set my fat goal.
Brown_Eyed_Girl
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Eh ......... I take a supplement 3 times a day
What supplement?
Brown_Eyed_Girl
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I take 1200mg of EPA Fish Oil which is (apparently) high in Omega 3 and Fatty acids 3 times a day
Brown_Eyed_Girl
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Whats your opinion on calorie cycling ??
Anywhere from 15-30% of calories should be from fat. Fish oil pills are excluded from this.
To OP. A protein shake IMO won't keep you more full for longer because it is a liquid meal. Oatmeal, with a scoop of vanilla protein is a slight modification that will be more beneficial.
To OP. A protein shake IMO won't keep you more full for longer because it is a liquid meal. Oatmeal, with a scoop of vanilla protein is a slight modification that will be more beneficial.
It's "harder" to do simply from tracking standpoint. And it's not required unless you are relatively lean already.
Once you are lean, trying to get leaner, it is certainly an option. Actually, for some it is necessary at this point.
I'm also a fan of higher cal days on workout days and lower cal days on non-workout days.
As for what Tony said, I agree. I don't really like using percentages. Rather break it down by grams as I did in my prior post. But it's a good general guideline to follow.