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The group thing was a failure. The turnout was big, but no one kept it up very long, and to this day we don't see any guys teaming up. Tic and PB tried it, and that died very quickly.

Training is a solitary pursuit. Recording it on the internet even more so. It'd be different if two people got together and collaborated in the gym together.
 
We get it Chillen, the idea was yours. I acknowledged it in your thread that you so point out. Have you went back and reviewed it? I did. All the way up to page 14. You had your idea of a trainer/trainee idea. I made an alternate suggestion which you actually never acknowledged. You just kept preaching and pushing yours evident by posts 135 and 148.

You had 2 trainers: yourself and Jaim. Noone else agreed to do it, which I actually stated in post 134 that I wasnt in on the idea. So I said in post 147 that Ill do my idea and you run yours. There was interest in both. The next post you just kept rolling your idea. Finally it was conceived that the draft was the option of choice, yet I continued to promote your idea.

You gave up and entered the lottery draft...until it was determined that your draft choice was last. BTW that was totally random and I knew it was gonna look bad and even thought about changing it.

Because Im pretty sure everyone knows you dont like me and I dont like you.

The only problems we had were getting everyone on the same page with how the draft worked. Once that happened we were able to run a nice draft actually, for the internet world.

Remember at that time, not everyone was able to sit on this site for 16 hours per day like you were.

These comments are unnecessary, and irrelevant to my "intent statement" I made pretty clear. You are missing the business point and taking it too personal. But, since you are extending this conversation, I will take this one time, and expand, slightly.

I am quite capable of speaking for my own feelings quite well; therefore, do not speak for my feelings--only I can do that with any accuracy. But to answer whether I like you or not: I don't even know you, to make a fair assessment on whether I like you or not--the internet sets far too many limitations, which is subject to misinterpretations and error of judgment. Your various negative posts in reference to me over the passed couple of years, are not an accurate assessment of who you are, but do some indication on whether you do or do not like me. Therefore, I haven't made a definitive personal judgment about you, TM. In short, you are wrong, and me making the post about the "team Journals" has nothing to do about feelings about you. To be honest, I have been the most harassed person on this forum (do I need to prove it?), but no mind, trust me when I tell you I am personally strong and have humongous shoulders, and walk the talk.

In addition, I made my opinion quite clear why I backed out, and if people want to choose a "different interpretation" other than the reason I made clear, this isn't my problem, and your personal opinion isn't even close to the reality.

After that you dropped out, and so did others. Of course they did, they would have regardless. In your recent post in this thread you quoted GT2003 talking about how he had no time to post and stay updated. How is that anyones problem?

Thoroughly reading entire posts (before making selective comments) would assist reading comprehension, and save you the time you have taken to write the above I have quoted, to wit the very first two sentences:

The Team Journal concept fell a part for a variety of reasons, but its not due to the concept/reason "behind the idea of the team journals". It is more "applicable to the variables behind each person" and what they were willing/not willing/able to put in the the team journal concept to assist themselves or another. (Chillen Quote reference, GT2003).

With this in mind, it still does not eliminate the obvious attitude and posting complications that existed at the time, and this had a huge influence on people dropping out.....as well, TM. It is clear, and there is no doubt. I have the PM's to support it, the threads I have posted support this, and I have a few others as well.

When I posted this, the main point was that OUR ATTITUDE on the forum and the..way...we...participate....in certain activities on the forum...influence others on the forum, both new and old members, and ones that lurk, and ones that do not post much. This is the MAIN THEME I wanted to get across, it is simply nothing personal.

To me, if I had a forum degrading in regular posting members, It would stimulate some action/reaction within me to find out the reason why (learn the causes), and brain storm ideas and concepts to find a solution or remedy for the problem. With the limited information I know.........it appears there isn't (at present) any plan of action, and its running by the seat of its pants, without any direction. This is the driving THEME behind my posts, TM. Maybe this thread will change that, I do not know. My intentions are good.


Best wishes,

Chillen
 
If you really care about the forum you'd stop posting walls of text in every thread. Maybe lurkers or old posters will come in and pick up the slack. Tony brought up the point that when it comes to doing something, everything has to be your way, and about you. If you want to cease getting harassed and/or want to bring the community back together, start with yourself and compromise, tone it down, and lurk way more than you post.
 
If you really care about the forum you'd stop posting walls of text in every thread. Maybe lurkers or old posters will come in and pick up the slack. Tony brought up the point that when it comes to doing something, everything has to be your way, and about you. If you want to cease getting harassed and/or want to bring the community back together, start with yourself and compromise, tone it down, and lurk way more than you post.

Hey! Lei! Waz up? :) :) :)

I am not going to change my posting methods. This is not the source of the problem.......do I need to prove this? This is easy.

This isn't about me or my way. Read and improve reading comprehension (re-read my intent comments and absorb it, THIS is what I mean, NOT what you think or say I mean).

The poison in your misinterpretation is evident.

I mean, Geesh, Guys........LOL........

:) :action8:

Best regards,

Chillen
 
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If you really care about the forum you'd stop posting walls of text in every thread. Maybe lurkers or old posters will come in and pick up the slack. Tony brought up the point that when it comes to doing something, everything has to be your way, and about you. If you want to cease getting harassed and/or want to bring the community back together, start with yourself and compromise, tone it down, and lurk way more than you post.

I know very little about the ongoing arguments that are occuring or have happened in the past between Chillen and whoever else, but one thing I do know, is that Lei is right about the posts. DAMN THOSE ARE ANNOYING TO READ. The way they're and how long they are is very frustrating. Now I'm a smart guy and I can focus when I need to, but I don't think I have ever gotten through one of your posts without wanting to pull my hair out. I don't think I've ever even finished reading one. Irrelevant, I know. Sorry :rolleyes:

On a more related note, I think there are too many topics, so maybe a few changes. My thoughts:
  • The whole "Body-Mind" thing and "Wellness" could probably be merged.
  • I think the Bodybuilding and Weight Training sections should also just become "Weight Training" (just rid of the BB).
  • I see no point in the "Current Trends" section. Does anyone go in there?
  • "Weight Loss" section should be renamed "Fat Loss". Trivial, but still.
  • The Grocery List should be included in the Nutrition 101 Sticky.
  • This thread: "Feel like posting your self-made-and-likely-inefficient split? Maybe Read this first" and "Weight Training 101" should have info compiled into one easier, coherent way to read.

I think the other Forum website - Weight Loss, Bodybuilding, Sports (don't think there are any others?) should basically be linked as stated before. You shouldn't have to sign up with different usernames in each one if you chose to use their services.

I'm with the guys to do away with the rep.
 
So you want me to use my time to improve the forum? I have no education or knowledge about coding or how to run a website, I know NOTHING about it. I'm a mod because I can make descisions about bad situations, resolve them, ban the right people, etc.. I'm also wicked good at deleting spam. I'm not a mod because I know how to improve the forum. I don't use any special features on the forum (except for mod features), the only thing I use is the forum itself, sometimes I rep, and I use the "new posts" button. It seems you want to make some kind of community with more togetherness and to create a sense of patriotism to the forum. Well, that's all fine and dandy. By all means, make suggestions, go for it, but don't go telling me I'm not doing enough. I do damn well as a mod but I don't have time to write page long replies on how to improve the forum. I'm a student, and the time I don't spend here I pretty much spend reading (in case you haven't noticed, I'm pretty darn knowledgable when it comes to training and nutrition). And how can I make suggestions when I don't know half of the features on this forum? I'm a forum guy and a mod, nothing more, nothing less.
 
So you want me to use my time to improve the forum? I have no education or knowledge about coding or how to run a website, I know NOTHING about it. I'm a mod because I can make descisions about bad situations, resolve them, ban the right people, etc.. I'm also wicked good at deleting spam. I'm not a mod because I know how to improve the forum. I don't use any special features on the forum (except for mod features), the only thing I use is the forum itself, sometimes I rep, and I use the "new posts" button. It seems you want to make some kind of community with more togetherness and to create a sense of patriotism to the forum. Well, that's all fine and dandy. By all means, make suggestions, go for it, but don't go telling me I'm not doing enough. I do damn well as a mod but I don't have time to write page long replies on how to improve the forum. I'm a student, and the time I don't spend here I pretty much spend reading (in case you haven't noticed, I'm pretty darn knowledgeable when it comes to training and nutrition). And how can I make suggestions when I don't know half of the features on this forum? I'm a forum guy and a mod, nothing more, nothing less.

My comments about the mods/admin, is in line with the comments about the news groups/team member (s) comments and ideas theme, nothing more and nothing less than this. The aforementioned criteria, were not meant or intended as a shot in the arm toward the mods/admins/owner about the "quality of performance within the description of their normal duties" in the "manner" you are taking it (it seems). If you care to, re-read the various areas that are "applicable".

I am just a forum member.

I too am knowledgeable in diet and fitness subjects.

In addition, I have a lot I can learn, and will keep on learning new things.

I work full-time, have personal responsibilities as well, and was a traditional student at one time.

I have no responsibility to the forum other then the standards and morals normally applied to a registered user. I have the option to post comments, and contribute, or not.

My responsibility to the forum as a registered user as compared to the "functions" of a mod, are different than yours. But, having "interest and participating in functions/projects to improve the forum"--are the same (or should be). And, heck........we (the participants) may even benefit in some way with the correct construction of ideas in place for doing certain things for the forum.

I am not required to do anything extra.

But this doesn't mean we shouldn't/or can't.

The "work" concept to improve certain things in life.........well works....for forums too......

WE have to "want" to do it. And, with "want" come a baggage of good things, and one of them is finding time to get things started/completed.

So what if we get it wrong..we adapt/adjust, and push forward.

This doesn't mean I (or someone else, or a group, etc, etc) can not do more for the forum within ....their means and capability, and ask others to participate in certain ideas/projects to improve the forum--when they have time, and "use the various" talents that some of our members have. For example, you or another member (group), could ask another member (group) to perform a certain function and agree to a prescribed time that fits the variables in their lives. For you (and the group), this will take just a few minutes to over-see the function. (example).

Its not a tall task. It takes just a few minutes. And, most lurk/search longer than this.


Best regards,

Chillen
 
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I'm not saying we shouldn't or can't. But we must not, and I've got a lot of other things to do. Like I said, if you want to use a lot of time to make suggestions, by all means, go ahead.
And if you want people to carefully read through your posts, don't make them so long. I usually only read half.
 
I'm not saying we shouldn't or can't. But we must not, and I've got a lot of other things to do. Like I said, if you want to use a lot of time to make suggestions, by all means, go ahead.
And if you want people to carefully read through your posts, don't make them so long. I usually only read half.

Yes, my posts are long. I will work on this part of it. Other than this portion, the "methods and delivery" remain the same. I will not let the "minority" outweigh the huge majority (correct context needs applied), and its usually the same minority.

Hope your day is well, Karks :)


Best wishes,

Chillen
 
Seriously people, why not cut the squabble and just move onto suggestions. Allcdnboy is mainly looking for input on the main site, not the forum, so why not try and get some general input like he asked before, like do you use it and what kind of improvements could be made?
 
Seriously people, why not cut the squabble and just move onto suggestions. Allcdnboy is mainly looking for input on the main site, not the forum, so why not try and get some general input like he asked before, like do you use it and what kind of improvements could be made?



The forum is not the main site. Hmm. Who knew?



And for the above argments. HAHA. Some people take the whole forum thing WAY to seriously. And I for one don't even read long posts. If I open it and it is long I just skip and move on.
 
Well one thing will help. I clicked the Fitness.com logo at the top left of the page and all it did was relaod this page. Maybe directing that to the site could be a start.
 
Well one thing will help. I clicked the Fitness.com logo at the top left of the page and all it did was relaod this page. Maybe directing that to the site could be a start.

Oh yeah, it does the same for me too. You need to click on Fitness.com on the menu bar directly below the site logo
 
Seriously people, why not cut the squabble and just move onto suggestions. Allcdnboy is mainly looking for input on the main site, not the forum, so why not try and get some general input like he asked before, like do you use it and what kind of improvements could be made?

He is looking for ideas for the main site now; however, he is also looking for ideas for the "forum" which he said he would start in December, which makes the other posts (I made), applicable to the topic.


Best regards,

Chillen
 
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We should have a petty arguement forum where we can all bitch about one another and act like children.

Wait...I thought this was it.
 
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