Just curious what you mean by this? I think of the Dukes of Hazzard with the "gold ol boys" comments. Are you meaning the gangups on people or something else.
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Just curious what you mean by this? I think of the Dukes of Hazzard with the "gold ol boys" comments. Are you meaning the gangups on people or something else.
I really know of only two "good ol' boys" that are a bit rough. They also contribute A LOT, of good information. But hey I’m new.
Typhon = Ignored, no comment. 
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Post #3 as we continue making "positive" suggestions:
1. The possibility of looking into the potential of using: "Twitter" to forum users advantage, and a benefit to your web site business. I am still investigating this possibility.
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2. Web-linking articles and news posts, where there is communication with the owner/writer/responsible person with owner/writer/responsible person on this site, to share some resources, and obtain exposure and accessibility from the online communities.
3. An improvement in your E-mail based News Letter feeds. Has RSS Feeds been discussed at all?
4. How to improve our forum? Etiquette improvement. If some do not know what Etiquette means, (in the general definition), its a code of behavior :jumping. Chillen surely knows what his means!
We have tried "positive contributions and ideas" before on this forum. But, it seems it turns to sh!t. (Case in point, is the "firing up the members" idea, and I have more where this came from).
Additionally, the persons that "drive" the forum (the owner/mods/admins) and leads the back-bone (regular members, referrals, and registration), do not "actively participate" enough.......in the "improvement" segment of the forum.
They are all volunteering their own time (when its personally appropriate), and there is no incentive for them (speaking of the mods, admins) to become ambitious, creative, and actively participating in brain storming ideas to improve the forum.
I do not know what happens behind the scenes, but it appears that they perform the normal "functions" of mods/admin duties and nothing else. These are our leaders, IMO. As such, they should be actively participating in improving.......the "business" of the forum, and be given a "connection" so they feel that they can, or better put, be "motivated to do it". This thread asked "How to improve our forum", and I am making a solid attempt to do just that. I am not picking on ANY ONE person, nor is this personal........but a "business" opinion.
I am only going to say this once: My intent is to comment on improving the forum I love and respect a great deal, which can include some "causes of forum erosion subject to MO", and these "causes" (once known or acknowledged) can be used to learn from, adapt from, to improve our engagement on the forum, and is not a b!tch session. For every error we make on the forum is an opportunity to improve. If their is a belief to the contrary--read this paragraph again. I will not repeat it.
I am sure if all of us are trying to present our case with civil and convincing argument (well, at least most of us), instead of using offensive slander and degrading words, our forum would be improved and we all would be benefit having this forum. We are a free society (of course). Free standing debate and opinion, is cool, do doubt. But it has to be controlled.
Chillen
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Post #3 as we continue making "positive" suggestions:
1. The possibility of looking into the potential of using: "Twitter" to forum users advantage, and a benefit to your web site business. I am still investigating this possibility.
UPDATE:
2. Web-linking articles and news posts, where there is communication with the owner/writer/responsible person with owner/writer/responsible person on this site, to share some resources, and obtain exposure and accessibility from the online communities.
3. An improvement in your E-mail based News Letter feeds. Has RSS Feeds been discussed at all?
4. How to improve our forum? Etiquette improvement. If some do not know what Etiquette means, (in the general definition), its a code of behavior
:jumping. Chillen surely knows what his means! We have tried "positive contributions and ideas" before on this forum. But, it seems it turns to sh!t. (Case in point, is the "firing up the members" idea, and I have more where this came from).
Additionally, the persons that "drive" the forum (the owner/mods/admins) and leads the back-bone (regular members, referrals, and registration), do not "actively participate" enough.......in the "improvement" segment of the forum.
They are all volunteering their own time (when its personally appropriate), and there is no incentive for them (speaking of the mods, admins) to become ambitious, creative, and actively participating in brain storming ideas to improve the forum.
I do not know what happens behind the scenes, but it appears that they perform the normal "functions" of mods/admin duties and nothing else. These are our leaders, IMO. As such, they should be actively participating in improving.......the "business" of the forum, and be given a "connection" so they feel that they can, or better put, be "motivated to do it". This thread asked "How to improve our forum", and I am making a solid attempt to do just that. I am not picking on ANY ONE person, nor is this personal........but a "business" opinion.
I am only going to say this once: My intent is to comment on improving the forum I love and respect a great deal, which can include some "causes of forum erosion subject to MO", and these "causes" (once known or acknowledged) can be used to learn from, adapt from, to improve our engagement on the forum, and is not a b!tch session. For every error we make on the forum is an opportunity to improve. If their is a belief to the contrary--read this paragraph again. I will not repeat it.
I am sure if all of us are trying to present our case with civil and convincing argument (well, at least most of us
), instead of using offensive slander and degrading words, our forum would be improved and we all would be benefit having this forum. We are a free society (of course). Free standing debate and opinion, is cool, do doubt. But it has to be controlled.- Using slander and offensive words is a sign of shallowness and defeatism, so that we should be able to avoid such kind of undignified method of presenting our case and instead exercise a simple rule of argument.
- A good argument makes an overall claim that relevantly support the case. This points to the general definition by the "new rules", and NOT to individual definition.
- A good argument goes on to support that overall claim with good reason and convincing ideas instead of filthy and degrading words and phrases. This points to the general definition as addressed by the "new rules", and NOT to individual definition.
- A good argument overtly addresses disagreement. This points to the general definition by the "new rules", and NOT to individual definition.
- A good argument uses a variety of kinds of support. Self explanatory.
- A good argument is simple, clear and focused on the case instead of
individual character, because apparently the argument is about the case not about individual character.
Chillen
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I thought you were including me in that until I read the bit about contributing a lot of good information
Anyway, putting you in the spotlight for a second JS, You joined recently and seem like the kind of person we want to attract, you train hard, you keep a journal, you seem like a decent guy who likes to pitch in with threads.
What was it that made you stick around? Maybe we just need to find what we do well and make more of a feature of it
I'll try and give you an answer to your question as it seemed like you wanted some advice on the redesign rather than a business partner. I think certain people on here might also want to reread the actual question too.
First question, no I don't use the main site, I think the main site looks very disjointed and is far too heavy on the copy. There needs to be something more visually striking than lots of small boxes with the latest articles in. I rarely look at the front page, the text on the welcoming note is too small and the colour is too light. I then get a pop-up ad every time I view it which is off-putting to me.
All the featured articles are so far down the page I have to scroll down to see them, if I were a first time visitor I might not hang around that long to see them. And why is there a BMI calculator right down the bottom? It would be better placed on the right hand margin near the top or have a link to it on a seperate page as it looks like it's been put there because no one knew where to put it.
I know you need ads to make money but the way they're placed on the landing page makes the content look squeezed. Also, the quick links to sections like articles are too small and might go unnoticed
That's the negative stuff, on the plus side, your articles are pretty good so once you get the site design stuff sorted out you should get a ton of new activity from referals.
If you're doing this properly and want a web design agency then let me know as a know tons of them
I had started training logs on other sights. But found them to be too much of a cool aid club. This place has diversity. People who know lifting heavy and lift heavy, people who know BW workouts and do BW workouts, people who know running and biking and they do those activity well. And it has people that will cycle from heavy lifting to more cardio.
There is also the no BS help I got and that I see other getting. Some noobs can’t handle the advice, it tells me they weren’t ready to hear what they really needed to hear.
A few folks can be rough with the noobs but I can see why. A lot of first time posts being a plea for help without even bothering to read around before asking. Then you go out of your way to help and they are gone….never to be seen again. Old dogs can get sick of trying to help for no appreciation. I’m starting too.
Firstly I got help for from Stingo, Tic, Karky, tjl then Chillen (thank you). Then I found a few big boys lifting heavy and that appealed to me. I think the diversity of the sight is great.
There is also the no BS help I got and that I see other getting. Some noobs can’t handle the advice, it tells me they weren’t ready to hear what they really needed to hear.
A few folks can be rough with the noobs but I can see why. A lot of first time posts being a plea for help without even bothering to read around before asking. Then you go out of your way to help and they are gone….never to be seen again. Old dogs can get sick of trying to help for no appreciation. I’m starting too.
Firstly I got help for from Stingo, Tic, Karky, tjl then Chillen (thank you). Then I found a few big boys lifting heavy and that appealed to me. I think the diversity of the sight is great.
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Cool JS, it's good to see you appreciating the different qualities of the various posters
And if I'm one of the people who seem rough to newbs I've changed my avatar to appear more friendly to the girlies and the girly men
LMAO! so you can surprise them??!! :speechless:
Lose the rep power
Reasoning? JW
I just don't see any value in it except hear people argue about it.
To each his own. Although it's hard to tell how someone really got their reputation (this presents sort of a big issue), it is a good way for people to at least have an idea whether or not the person they are hearing from knows what they're talking about, IMO. That being said, you may be right and I don't really care one way or the other.
Yeah, I have seen people get 'repped' for a good put down or for being a jerk to someone who others disliked.
Id love to turn it off.
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We get it Chillen, the idea was yours. I acknowledged it in your thread that you so point out. Have you went back and reviewed it? I did. All the way up to page 14. You had your idea of a trainer/trainee idea. I made an alternate suggestion which you actually never acknowledged. You just kept preaching and pushing yours evident by posts 135 and 148.
You had 2 trainers: yourself and Jaim. Noone else agreed to do it, which I actually stated in post 134 that I wasnt in on the idea. So I said in post 147 that Ill do my idea and you run yours. There was interest in both. The next post you just kept rolling your idea. Finally it was conceived that the draft was the option of choice, yet I continued to promote your idea.
You gave up and entered the lottery draft...until it was determined that your draft choice was last. BTW that was totally random and I knew it was gonna look bad and even thought about changing it. Because Im pretty sure everyone knows you dont like me and I dont like you.
After that you dropped out, and so did others. Of course they did, they would have regardless. In your recent post in this thread you quoted GT2003 talking about how he had no time to post and stay updated. How is that anyones problem?
The only problems we had were getting everyone on the same page with how the draft worked. Once that happened we were able to run a nice draft actually, for the internet world.
Remember at that time, not everyone was able to sit on this site for 16 hours per day like you were.