Sport Low carb, glycogen, protein breakdown questions

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I find it quite odd that a diet aimed at decreasing fat, has you getting %60 percent of your calories from fat. Am I missing something here? This doesn't sound healthy to me...

The reason most people's body's are so willing to store fat is because many average people's fat intake is very low. If the body starts getting an abundant amount of a certain macro then it wont need to store it as fat because it knows its getting enough. Thats why fat is supposed to be at 60% and your highest macro to allow your body to realize that fat in calories is plenty, and to let your body to start using fat as energy.
 
Not sure why the link didnt work ill try this time again,

That website doesn't prove anything.

It says that you will feel tired and have trouble concentrating on a low carb diet, which is true for the first week until after your body gets used to it these symptoms go away.

It says cancers and diseases may be caused, but thats why multi-vitamin pills are recommended, and during your carb-ups your supposed to be taking in a lot of fruits, veggies, grains, etc.

It also states that low carb diets are not any more effective for weight loss than conventional methods. I think any bodybuilder or anyone who struggled to get under 10% could disagree with this and argue the benefit of a carb-cycling diet.
 
dietary fat isn't added to the body as fat. how did you come to that conclusion?

I didn't. I was just stating that a diet with such a high fat content doesn't seem very healthy or balanced to me. Whether you gain or lose fat on your body, you're still putting a ton of junk in your body that it wasn't designed to eat at such large quantities. (Unless that is you're a descendant of an eskimo who survived off of seal blubber.)
 
Boba - slightly amusing assumption there but its def no bias. What they give is true and backed up by literature.

Phate, Multivitamins isnt some magic pill, your still going to get the short and long term effects.

I couldnt care what you guys eat, do what you want but dont come back begging when things start to go wrong..
 
Let us know how this works out for you karky.

I did this diet for bulking and I could hardly gain any weight on it.

Ha, I loved it though, I was eating 5,500 calories per day and I was gaining VERY LITTLE fat. Wasn't gaining hardly any muscle either though.

I was eating enough carbs where I wasn't in ketosis according to the pee strips, though. About 70g while bulking.

Why was it said that it's bad to be in ketosis by the way? I read a whole book on keto and it didn't say anything of the sort (and the book wasn't trying to sell you the diet, it was all science.)

EDIT: By the way, I am nearly 100% positive that the brain doesn't use 200g of carbs per day as Mreik suggested.
 
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Boba - slightly amusing assumption there but its def no bias. What they give is true and backed up by literature.

Phate, Multivitamins isnt some magic pill, your still going to get the short and long term effects.

I couldnt care what you guys eat, do what you want but dont come back begging when things start to go wrong..

This is a bodybuilding diet meant for a bodybuilding lifestyle. And a bodybuilding life isn't as healthy as it can be, as we all know.

This diet isn't intended for the average schmo..everyone else can stick to the 40/30/30 ratio while people who want to experiment with other diets and how it affects their body to optimize gains.


I didn't. I was just stating that a diet with such a high fat content doesn't seem very healthy or balanced to me. Whether you gain or lose fat on your body, you're still putting a ton of junk in your body that it wasn't designed to eat at such large quantities. (Unless that is you're a descendant of an eskimo who survived off of seal blubber.)

Then let your body get used to it, the body is great at adapting.
 
the thing is, spicy, that there isn't agreement on the whole "fats are bad thing" Cholesterol isn't bad, a lot of people claim satured fats aren't bad either when they are not accompanied by carbs.

Where did Mreik claim the brain needed 200g glucose?
 
the thing is, spicy, that there isn't agreement on the whole "fats are bad thing" Cholesterol isn't bad, a lot of people claim satured fats aren't bad either when they are not accompanied by carbs.

Where did Mreik claim the brain needed 200g glucose?

I guess he said 150g, I thought he said 200g. Either way, that can't be right.
 
I read all his replies, never did he state that.. did I miss something? Can you find a quote?

post number 15 on this topic, he replied to your post and in bold he said.."

"Keep in mind that the brain alone uses around 150g of carbs per day! So 15-30g will be on the very low side of 'enough'."


just search the first page for brain and you'll find it.
 
Oh yeah i meant to respond to "saturated fats is only bad if consumed with carbs"

That is one of the dumbest things i have ever heard.

The old adage of never trust everything you read applie there.

By the way the brain does use more than 100g a day.
 
Oh yeah i meant to respond to "saturated fats is only bad if consumed with carbs"

That is one of the dumbest things i have ever heard.

The old adage of never trust everything you read applie there.

By the way the brain does use more than 100g a day.

For the first time I agree with you that it is stupid to be worrying about combining fats and carbs or proteins and fats, etc. And what ever difference they make, must be minimal.

Though i'm curious as to the "brain uses more than 100g a day"
So does that mean that when i was going low-carb a while back and taking in usually 30-50g that my brain was running off fats and proteins?
Didn't feel any difference anyhow, was able to think clearly as any other day.
 
Then let your body get used to it, the body is great at adapting.


Oh yeah, most modern American/Western bodies have done a wonderful job adapting to the typical high fat/high cholesterol diet. Atherosclerosis is just a fine adaptation indeed. What a wonderful and fascinating function of the human body...:rolleyes:

I do know that a lot of heart disease is genetically based, but when a large portion of the population has those genes. Why risk it? Check with your doctor first before going on such a high fat diet...
 
yeah adaptation doesnt always have to be positive.

First time you agree? wooo haha.

Well whatever your brain was defecient in would have been supplied by ketones. Im a bit woozy on the details, anyhow i checked and it says we use about 150g of glucose a day and 75% is used by the brain.
 
Oh yeah, most modern American/Western bodies have done a wonderful job adapting to the typical high fat/high cholesterol diet. Atherosclerosis is just a fine adaptation indeed. What a wonderful and fascinating function of the human body...:rolleyes:

I do know that a lot of heart disease is genetically based, but when a large portion of the population has those genes. Why risk it? Check with your doctor first before going on such a high fat diet...

Your incorrent the majority of americans are fatases because they are on a high carb-low fat diet and that they don't exercise.

You increase one macro significantly above the others, the body will learn to adapt and use that macro ( in this case, fat ) for energy.

Please stop comparing the anabolic diet a diet for the average individual, how many times must i say this diet isn't and wasn't intended for people that don't weight train?

From the forums i've read, there were people that were able to lower bad cholestrol and increase good cholestrol, lower blood pressure, after going on the AD.
 
yeah adaptation doesnt always have to be positive.

First time you agree? wooo haha.

Well whatever your brain was defecient in would have been supplied by ketones. Im a bit woozy on the details, anyhow i checked and it says we use about 150g of glucose a day and 75% is used by the brain.

So whats the point whether my brain gets the energy from carbs or fats?
I'm not buying the "carbs are a better energy source" because i didn't feel any different than i do now on a more moderate carb diet.
 
Your kidding Phate, they eat to much of everything INCLUDING FAT! the bad ones.

You have such simple reasoning Phate. If you think ketones act the same as glucose then go ahead ;)
 
Damn right i have simple reasoning. I hate getting into complex scientific **** because gaining muscle and losing fat is SIMPLE but not easy.

Ketones, Glucose, WHAT EVER . Your body will learn to use it as energy to run itself.

All you gotta do is talk to the people are on these diets and learn from their experiences..the experiences of bodybuildiers and weight lifters is held higher by me than you forum scientists.
 
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