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Hey Richard! When do you go to the Mayo in Florida? I'm excited to hear what they have to say. I've been in the medical field for almost 13 years (prior to the job I have now) and have never heard anything bad about any of the Mayo's. It would be great if you could stay in Florida.

Keep us posted as far as what you find out and what your plans are. Take care of yourself. FF needs you to recover 'cause he can't make his own PB sandwich. Greg

Hi Greg,

I was very impressed with the cardiothoracic surgeon at Mayo Jacksonville, Dr. Richard Agnew. We spoke for almost 1 1/2 hours and he answered all my questions. I felt I was in good hands and when I got home, I had received an email from my wife's niece who is a cardiothoracic RN. We had asked her to ask her surgeon friends if they had heard of Agnew and one said that he knew him and he comes highly recommended! So that is that. I'm gonna have it this Friday. On Saturday, I hope to be sitting up and doing easy Sodukos (I'll still be on morphine) and going to the bathroom. By Sunday, I hope to be walking around the hospital. By Monday, I'll be itching to leave. And, by Tuesday, I hope to be out of there. Well, maybe by Wednesday, anyways.

At six months post surgery, I am looking ahead toward the Pumpkinman Triathlon, , which has a sprint, olympic, and 70.3 Ironman. I think I'm gonna sign up for the Olympic length if I have enough mobility in my arms. The swim is in Lake Mead which is wetsuit legal and I have my 5 mil Desoto triathlon wetsuit which is slicker than dog poop but also allows me to float! So, with my aortic regurgitation fixed and the wetsuit giving me buoyancy to float, I am not afraid of 1500m of open water, as long as each stroke doesn't cause excruciating pain in my sternum.:eek:

Now, take a look at the bike course:

The last 6 miles is all uphill! Downright nasty, isn't it? My kind of course!

Of course, I could always do the sprint....
 
Mighty goals my friend. But, no doubt you will achieve it if medically possible. Keep your head up, sounds like you are in great hands with you surgeon. Keep us posted as you can. Greg
 
I want to thank all of my family members on the Fitness Forum who sent me their collective good kharma. I don't think the outcome would have been as good without it!

I had five outcome goals of surgery:

1. Survive surgery
2. Not get a staph infection
3. Not need a pacemaker
4. Get out as quickly as possible
5. Be able to reuse my aortic vave

I was able to accomplish the first four goals. The surgeon had pre-warned me that he did not have much success saving valves when the aortic root was dilated so that was no surprise.

They discharged me today, 3 days after surgery, partly because I had accomplished all their goals in recovery (self sufficient, ambulatory, able to eat and drink), partly because they didn't want to keep me in a germ-filled hospital and run the risk of infection, and because they needed the bed.

The surgeon installed a homograft human cadaver aortic root/aorta/aortic valve. The surgeon said I can expect 12 - 15 years, but the Physicians's Assistant said they typically last 20 years. So, at age 68, I'll go through another surgery, but one less complicated because replacing a valve in a homograft is the same as replacing a valve in a existing aorta. And, who knows how sophisticated and non-invasive the surgery will be in 20 years? By going with a cadaver valve, I do not need Coumadin. Those of you in the medical industry know how serious and potentially dangerous this stuff is.

It was clear that my conditioning and overall health sped up the recovery time substantially. One doctor stopped me in the hallway while I was walking around the ICU and said I was one of the few patients he had ever seen who was out in 3 days. (My goal was to be out in 4 days). While I was out, there was some discussion of my low heart rate and the nurse said that I was an athlete with a 51 resting heart rate (although that is just one of many conversations I don't remember).

The only pain I have is in my sternum, as would be expected. My abdominal muscles hurt when the drainage tubes were in place, but that went away shortly after they were removed. The PA thinks the sternum pain will ease up in 1 - 2 weeks. I was told repeatedly that my pain threshold is high (not as high as Rambo's, but higher than most).

As for resuming exercise, I can start walking immediately as far as I can muster, probably 1/4 mile for now, as many times / day as I want and can. In 2 - 3 weeks, I can start doing non-impact cardio stuff, ellipticals, stairmaster and stationary bike. After 6 - 8 weeks, I can resume running and biking outside. I forgot when I can resume swimming, but I'll find out when I see them in 3 weeks for my followup. The surgeon also said I could start working with weights over the party line 10#, as long as I isolate the muscles and don't use the pecs or lats. It will be at least 2 months, maybe more iv ever, before I do a bench press again. The PA let me stay on the calcium channel blocker even though it doesn't suppress heart rate as much as beta blockers because of my active lifestyle. It was clear that these surgeons are able to think out of the box and not rigid in standard recommendations and protocols.

Overall, I give Dr. Richard Agnew, his team, and the Mayo Clinic in Jacksonville my highest rating! If anyone in Florida needs open chest surgery, you can't do any better than this combination.

Richard
 
Wow, I haven't had time to poke around as much as I'd like on this site so this is the first I've read of your sugery. Heal up Rambo!
 
I want to thank all of my family members on the Fitness Forum who sent me their collective good kharma. I don't think the outcome would have been as good without it!

I had five outcome goals of surgery:

1. Survive surgery
2. Not get a staph infection
3. Not need a pacemaker
4. Get out as quickly as possible
5. Be able to reuse my aortic vave

I was able to accomplish the first four goals. The surgeon had pre-warned me that he did not have much success saving valves when the aortic root was dilated so that was no surprise.

They discharged me today, 3 days after surgery, partly because I had accomplished all their goals in recovery (self sufficient, ambulatory, able to eat and drink), partly because they didn't want to keep me in a germ-filled hospital and run the risk of infection, and because they needed the bed.

The surgeon installed a homograft human cadaver aortic root/aorta/aortic valve. The surgeon said I can expect 12 - 15 years, but the Physicians's Assistant said they typically last 20 years. So, at age 68, I'll go through another surgery, but one less complicated because replacing a valve in a homograft is the same as replacing a valve in a existing aorta. And, who knows how sophisticated and non-invasive the surgery will be in 20 years? By going with a cadaver valve, I do not need Coumadin. Those of you in the medical industry know how serious and potentially dangerous this stuff is.

It was clear that my conditioning and overall health sped up the recovery time substantially. One doctor stopped me in the hallway while I was walking around the ICU and said I was one of the few patients he had ever seen who was out in 3 days. (My goal was to be out in 4 days). While I was out, there was some discussion of my low heart rate and the nurse said that I was an athlete with a 51 resting heart rate (although that is just one of many conversations I don't remember).

The only pain I have is in my sternum, as would be expected. My abdominal muscles hurt when the drainage tubes were in place, but that went away shortly after they were removed. The PA thinks the sternum pain will ease up in 1 - 2 weeks. I was told repeatedly that my pain threshold is high (not as high as Rambo's, but higher than most).

As for resuming exercise, I can start walking immediately as far as I can muster, probably 1/4 mile for now, as many times / day as I want and can. In 2 - 3 weeks, I can start doing non-impact cardio stuff, ellipticals, stairmaster and stationary bike. After 6 - 8 weeks, I can resume running and biking outside. I forgot when I can resume swimming, but I'll find out when I see them in 3 weeks for my followup. The surgeon also said I could start working with weights over the party line 10#, as long as I isolate the muscles and don't use the pecs or lats. It will be at least 2 months, maybe more iv ever, before I do a bench press again. The PA let me stay on the calcium channel blocker even though it doesn't suppress heart rate as much as beta blockers because of my active lifestyle. It was clear that these surgeons are able to think out of the box and not rigid in standard recommendations and protocols.

Overall, I give Dr. Richard Agnew, his team, and the Mayo Clinic in Jacksonville my highest rating! If anyone in Florida needs open chest surgery, you can't do any better than this combination.

Richard

Glad to hear it went so well. I'm glad to hear it
 
Rambo is a WUSS compared to you not to mentional a fairy tale of falsehood.

However, you are the real friggen deal and eat recovery power with every meal and are just flat unstoppable.

I am so glad you are recovering and doing well, Richard. My thoughts are with you and your family, and I wish you much success from this surgery.

ROCK ON! My friend. Recover and be well.


Chillen
 
It's great to hear everything went as planned. Hoping for a quick recovery and to see you working out soon.
 
I am going to the gym today with my wife and see if I can ride a stationary bike slowly without pain.

I got an email today that the Bike Across Florida which I was registered for but had to cancel because of the surgery had been postponed until October 12 because of logistical issues with the course. That is 6 days before the Pumpkinman Triathlon.
 
So you can possibly do Race Across America? sweet!

I can't believe you're going to the gym to "work out" but....I can't say I wouldn't be doing the same thing :)

Stay strong!
 
Good to hear you're feeling well enough to give it a shot. Take it easy don't hurt yourself and be patient.

BTW that chick in your avatar is hot!!! LOL
 
So you can possibly do Race Across America? sweet!

I can't believe you're going to the gym to "work out" but....I can't say I wouldn't be doing the same thing :)

Stay strong!

Sparrow, there is a big difference between the Race Across Florida and the Race Across America! But, yeah, I have no reason to think I can't do the RAF in October; I just don't know if I can do it 6 days before a triathlon.

Good to hear you're feeling well enough to give it a shot. Take it easy don't hurt yourself and be patient.

BTW that chick in your avatar is hot!!! LOL

I'm, glad you appreciate hot chicks!
 
I am going to the gym today with my wife and see if I can ride a stationary bike slowly without pain.

Slowly? You wuss!

That heart's been back inside your rib cage for almost a whole week now! I think you're milking the sympathy a bit ;)
 
More baby steps...

My cardiothoracic surgeon wanted me to hold off any exercises for 2 - 3 weeks after being discharged. I jumped the gun a few days, maybe a week, and went with the wife to the YMCA and rode the stationary bike for 30 minutes today on the first level (I normally do the 3rd or 4th level on this machine). I was curious to see where my comfort zone would be with my heart rate. Going in, I thought I would keep it less than 120, but once I got going, I hit 135 and backed down to the high 120s where I kept it for the duration. I wasn't breathing hard, but I felt funky and weak and was sweaty. It was weird getting sweaty over a timid workout like that, but I haven't done jack in about 6 weeks. My legs will be back soon, though, once my cardio/pulmonary systems get used to working hard again.

I see the surgeon on Friday about some swelling in my leg that I thought would have gone away by now. I have stopped taking Percoset and am taking only Tylenol for the occasional discomfort - no pain - and to control the chills I still get.

After I settle in, I can do all the stationary bike, elliptical and stairclimbing work I want. I can also do weights as long as they don't antagonize my sternum (i.e. no pec or lat work). After 6 weeks, I am clear to do whatever I want, including swimming, outdoor bicycling, running, any weights - but I have to be careful with the pec and lat work.
 
April 24: Stationary bike: 30 minutes, heart rate: 130 - 138
April 22: Stationary bike: 38 minutes, heart rate: 120 - 132.
Not able to use any free weights or machines without aggravating my sternum.
 
April 24: Stationary bike: 30 minutes, heart rate: 130 - 138
April 22: Stationary bike: 38 minutes, heart rate: 120 - 132.
Not able to use any free weights or machines without aggravating my sternum.

When there is a WILL there is no time to CHILL nor space to sit STILL but only to time to FULFILL.

Armed with his will, he finds a WAY and he doesn't PLAY.

Richard lets his sweat SPRAY, and this is OKAY, as his heart is on full DISPLAY!

GOOD FOR YOU!

You are healing and prospering. Strong and healthy. Wise and prudent.

A statesman with a empowered will that knows the way.


Best regards,


Chillen
 
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My wife was concerned about my returning to the gym and wanted a clarification from the surgeon. So I called the cardiothoracic surgeon's office this morning and spoke to one of the physician assistants who operated on me. He assured me that my heart is as intact as it ever will be and the only thing that time will provide is allow my sternum to fuse back. When I asked him why I'm not fatigued as everyone said I would be, he had no answer; only that I should be. When I asked if my replacement aortic valve could "blow out of my body" if I worked too hard, he laughed for a solid minute and said I would cough up a lung before that would happen. Okay, I'll keep that as a symptom of overworking in the future...

So, with that tidbit of info, I headed back to the gym. This time, I increased to level 3 (out of 4) with a pacer speed of 150, a new post-surgery high. Before I knew it, my heart rate was 145 much to my surprise and I maintained my heart above 140 for the entire 44 minute duration. I would say my Borg RPE was probably 15 out of 20.

I was totally dripping at the end but not fatigued and not winded. I could have gone the entire route again (well, maybe at a slower pace). I was very excited at this progress.

It is clear that my regurgitating aortic valve was acting as a governor - keeping me from going faster on foot, the bike and in the water. As I continue to improve my conditioning, I am definitely gonna set a bunch of PRs the rest of this year and 2009.
 
Did I not say you that you are a machine?
 
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