From alpha testing to the QUERCUS 200

LOL Brawny! It means I won't give up venison or hunting. I've seen plenty of pig farms, chicken houses, and feed lots. I know I'm healthier without the stuff that comes out of them. That and it's easier to keep the calories down when you don't eat much meat as long as you don't eat junk.

I enjoy fishing and hunting and allowing myself direct usage meat like deer and squirrel from my own land encourages me to hunt more which encourages me to shoot more which encourages me to reload more. None of these activities involve me stuffing my face.
 
Big boobs for the win :) I forgot you were 6'3! So tall! I'm thinking about going veggie for a while after my holiday.. It sounds like your benefiting from it.
 
We're all the same height on the interwebs Sun. I find that I eat fewer calories, more fruits and veggies, and less junk when I'm vegetarian. I eat more home made meals and a wider variety of foods as well. Be adventurous! A lot of cultures do vegetarian well. I liked Ethiopian, Indian, Thai, Vietnamese, and Greek vegetarian food very much. I found dishes that let me eat out and still be veggie and have a big variety. I no longer have access to most of that being away from a city. I miss that, but it does keep my away from large portions andsome not so healthy vegetarian dishes that some of those places offered. I can still get vegan Pho at a Vietnamese place in the town I work in and the ingredients for some foreign dishes too.

Feel free to ask any questions you like if you decide to give it a try.
 
319.2 this morning. The back feels poorly this morning, but I will be off to the gym for hot tub/cold dip this evening. Birthday lunch/cake today, but the it's right back on track. I'm happy to be back down to the 30 pounds lost mark. I've shed 6.8 pounds since last Wednesday.
 
Great progress! I admire your strength for going vegetarian. I just couldn't do it. Chicken is a huge staple in our house followed by beef. I don't think I could possibly drop them from my meal plans. I'm glad you're having such great results with it though. Keep it up! I hope you find relief soon from your back pain.
 
I do a vegan week now and then and my body thanks me every time. However my concern is that it is not wise to eat too much soy products and beans are pretty full of calories, so I always end up eating lean and easy to digest meat again. (cannot eat dairy and eggs are not a daily option)
we have several vegetarians in the family, but they tend to eat lots of junk like ice cream, cake and popcorn too and cover all their food in cheese and not really think it through.
What do you eat for proteins Quercus?
 
Checking in on my vacation.

I think the key here might just be psychological. If you know the problem and the best path forward, I think that can definitely be helpful going forward. Not knowing can be an awful feeling.

Keep on the mend and congrats on the early good weight loss results.
 
Mandy, I ate tons of meat before I transitioned. It doesn't take long, but it is tough to do if others are still eating meat around you.

Clarissa, you can have a great or crappy diet as an omnivore, vegetarian, or vegan. It's easier for me personally to lose weight eating a vegetarian diet. It forces me to cook more of my own food and to eat more fruit and veggies.

My protein sources, like my diet as a vegetarian, are varied and include tofu, tempeh, quinoa, egg, lowfat greek yogurt, cheese (mostly home made), beans, nuts, and seeds. I also occasionally eat wild game and I'll eat other meat when work or social circumstances oblige me to.

I have a half cup of lowfat greek yogurt in a fruit smoothie for breakfast 5x a week and I eat cheese once a day at most. I've cut out most of my bread for the last 5 days, but I've yet to see where I end up on bread consumption, but lower than before is a definite. I don't drink calories other than meal supplement or fresh made juice except for the occasional sugar free flavored soy latte.

All the meat you buy and eat is full of hormones unless you actively avoid hormone treated meat. Even without artificial hormones meat contains various levels of hormones and pre/pro-hormone just like soy. Soy has phytoestrogens which may act as estrogen in the body. There are many studies when taken as a body are inconclusive. Phytoestrogens where found to reduce male reproduction in graze animals by reducing testosterone levels. It was found that ruminants are effected by this, but all of the studies conducted on human males show no decrease in testosterone. A meta-analysis was done of 15 clinical studies on the effects in males.

Abstract to the meta-analysis:


Quote from abstract:
"Result(s)

No significant effects of soy protein or isoflavone intake on T, SHBG, free T, or FAI were detected regardless of statistical model.

Conclusion(s)

The results of this meta-analysis suggest that neither soy foods nor isoflavone supplements alter measures of bioavailable T concentrations in men."

Most of the clinical controversy of high soy consumption in females is whether or not there is anti cancer effects or whether it aides in alleviation of menopause symptoms. I've not seen any scientific literature that substantiates issues in females other than potential hazard to fetal development and this isn't conclusive.

If you have information on soy I'd be happy to see it. I am accustomed to finding and reading scientific publications and that allows me to bypass using media information as my information source, but that doesn't mean that I'm not missing something.

A the technical analysis aside. I eat lots of soy and I feel better than when I eat lots of meat. I have increased energy, a reduction in weight, and an increase in the activities that would suggest that my hormones are doing fine ;) . I used to lift heavy weights 3 x a week on a strict vegetarian diet that was heavily reliant on soy.

In short, there is no reason to not eat soy (that I know of) and that means you can try it for yourself and see how it effects you. Have a checkup and bloodwork done before the switch. Start eating more soy and less meat in your diet and then look at the results in 6 months. See for yourself.
 
Checking in on my vacation.

I think the key here might just be psychological. If you know the problem and the best path forward, I think that can definitely be helpful going forward. Not knowing can be an awful feeling.

Keep on the mend and congrats on the early good weight loss results.

ARE YOU CALLING ME A NUT?!!! Just kidding, of course I'm a nut. I hope you're having a great vacation. I definitely have used the knowledge to my advantage so far. I am super motivated to do what I can do to make the pain go away. If that isn't enough, then I will deal with the remaining option. Thanks buddy!
 
I avoided the scale today as yesterday was big meal at my parents with a large portion of carrot cake with cream cheese icing. It was for my birthday so I went for it. The small victories yesterday were that we had fish that my father had caught with vegetables, rice, and a baked sweet potato so aside from the cake it wasn't too unhealthy. I did get really hungry later which I think is a direct result of the sugar load earlier in the day. Bad eating begets bad eating. I'm sticking to my guns today and I'll squish the poor floor scale again tomorrow.

I have a fresh fruit salad, vegetables fresh and dehydrated from my Father's garden, and a soy sausage for protein for lunch. Drinking lots of water too.
 
Mandy, I ate tons of meat before I transitioned. It doesn't take long, but it is tough to do if others are still eating meat around you.

Clarissa, you can have a great or crappy diet as an omnivore, vegetarian, or vegan. It's easier for me personally to lose weight eating a vegetarian diet. It forces me to cook more of my own food and to eat more fruit and veggies.

My protein sources, like my diet as a vegetarian, are varied and include tofu, tempeh, quinoa, egg, lowfat greek yogurt, cheese (mostly home made), beans, nuts, and seeds. I also occasionally eat wild game and I'll eat other meat when work or social circumstances oblige me to.

I have a half cup of lowfat greek yogurt in a fruit smoothie for breakfast 5x a week and I eat cheese once a day at most. I've cut out most of my bread for the last 5 days, but I've yet to see where I end up on bread consumption, but lower than before is a definite. I don't drink calories other than meal supplement or fresh made juice except for the occasional sugar free flavored soy latte.

All the meat you buy and eat is full of hormones unless you actively avoid hormone treated meat. Even without artificial hormones meat contains various levels of hormones and pre/pro-hormone just like soy. Soy has phytoestrogens which may act as estrogen in the body. There are many studies when taken as a body are inconclusive. Phytoestrogens where found to reduce male reproduction in graze animals by reducing testosterone levels. It was found that ruminants are effected by this, but all of the studies conducted on human males show no decrease in testosterone. A meta-analysis was done of 15 clinical studies on the effects in males.

Abstract to the meta-analysis:


Quote from abstract:
"Result(s)

No significant effects of soy protein or isoflavone intake on T, SHBG, free T, or FAI were detected regardless of statistical model.

Conclusion(s)

The results of this meta-analysis suggest that neither soy foods nor isoflavone supplements alter measures of bioavailable T concentrations in men."

Most of the clinical controversy of high soy consumption in females is whether or not there is anti cancer effects or whether it aides in alleviation of menopause symptoms. I've not seen any scientific literature that substantiates issues in females other than potential hazard to fetal development and this isn't conclusive.

If you have information on soy I'd be happy to see it. I am accustomed to finding and reading scientific publications and that allows me to bypass using media information as my information source, but that doesn't mean that I'm not missing something.

A the technical analysis aside. I eat lots of soy and I feel better than when I eat lots of meat. I have increased energy, a reduction in weight, and an increase in the activities that would suggest that my hormones are doing fine ;) . I used to lift heavy weights 3 x a week on a strict vegetarian diet that was heavily reliant on soy.

In short, there is no reason to not eat soy (that I know of) and that means you can try it for yourself and see how it effects you. Have a checkup and bloodwork done before the switch. Start eating more soy and less meat in your diet and then look at the results in 6 months. See for yourself.

Thanks for your reply, I have the most read shorter articles with unspecified sources all saying one should be careful with soy, but they never say why other than because of the hormones. source criticism should of course be used. Yesterday I went internet surfing again and I had some kind of déjà vu; a food fight just like the dairy og no dairy diet discussion, but no, I found no conclusions on the need to avoid soy.
 
Hey Q! It's my first time checking in on the new diary, looks like I missed a lot. Did the next hot tub/cold dip session help as much as the first?
 
Nostalgic the swim turned into a hot tub cold dip that was repeated several times.

Clarissa, I'm happy to inform folks. Hopefully you won't be as reluctant to eat soy in the future.

Yes Laura it has helped a lot each time. Last night I went for a brief swim after the session with no ill effect.

The pain medicine that I was so impressed with started to have side effects (tremors) and the pain crept back. Yesterday was terrible for pain and tremors and I felt really confused and had trouble doing simple tasks. I went straight to sleep when I got home and skipped my pain medicine. This morning I felt okay so I skipped the secoond dose. I have less pain and the confusion and tremors are gone. I won't take the medicine again unless I have to.

I'm also up a few pounds today despite doing well with calories so I will do daily weigh-in for the spreadsheet and model, but I will go back to Saturday weigh-ins officially. I think I can cope with that, but if just seeing (not announcing) the weight still bugs me I will only weigh on Saturdays.

Laura, the cake was yummy, but it was difficult to say no to the leftovers and I still got really hungry later.
 
Up a few pounds, could it be water retention or something?

It's a shame about the medicine. I myself suffer from mild tremors and have done since the age of 15. While its not as serious as some it can be embarrassing at times.
I once took meds to help it and was so worried about what they would prescribe. Some medications for it can cause depression and I didn't want that. I ended the meds they did give me as its not great for blood circulation. I currently just deal with it. I'm 32 and its not so bad but I think it will get worse as I get older.
 
I would not be surprised if getting off of the medicine is causing water retention. I did well yesterday and the weight is the same.

I did my hot tub/cold dip last night and swam, walked in the pool, and did lunges. I'm pretty sore in my back today so I may have pushed it a bit. I still have not had to take the medicine again. I'm not sure if I can make the day sitting in a chair without it, but I'm going to try. I got lots of sleep last night which was nice, but the extra time in bed may be part of why I'm so sore and stiff this morning.

The weight gain is well within the 5 pound swings that your body can have, but I want it to go down. Hopefully I'll have a sizable drop by Saturday.
 
That's too bad about your tremors Nostalgic. Hopefully they will stay mild. Maybe they will come up with a better medicine for them. Some people acted rather odd around me while I was having them. I think it worries people.
 
It's called essential tremor which means I shake when holding things up or passing things to,people, I can only carry one cup of coffee at a time for example but just sitting down I don't shake.

Medicine helps but so much of it has horrible side effects for people :(
 
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Here is a shot of me a couple weeks ago. I'm looking for the endangered red-cockaded woodpecker. I'm still way big, but those pants are only on because of the belt and they used to be snug. I like having a picture that I didn't know was happening because I have my gut relaxed for sure. I need to retire those pants.
 

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