Fasting!

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Im planning a fast where I just take in water and bare essential nutrients for 24 hours straight.


All I will have in 24 hours:

water no limit all the water I want
mio for flavoring (need with the nutrients in there)

2 scoops of unflavored whey protein isolate 210 calories
4 packets of raw sugar 80 calories
2 teaspoons of salt
4 caps of omega 3 fish oil 40 calories

300 calories

optional/ Imight also take
A fiber supplement
Creapure creatine monohydrate
A multi vitamin

I only plan to do this once a month if that.

I will monitor my results
ps I have also began to reduce my consumption of refined cards one portion of either a bread/pasta or rice/potato every 5 days
my primary diet is meats, fruits and green leafy veggies
 
Steve53 said:
Is your purpose weight loss, religious, or just general health considerations?

The ancient Egyptians routinely fasted for three days a month, and were very healthy.
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My reason is weight loss, but I think that formula is a healthy way to fast, every nutrient is present and the calories are extremely low.
 
Steve53 said:
You'll loss weight, but are you going to eat like that forever?

Why not try my program?

Fast until noon each day, then eat whatever you want for the next 8 hours.

If you stick to it for 5-6 days, you might be surprised at how you feel and what you hunger for.

Plus, it might be something you can keep up for the rest of your life, and weight lost will be kept off.
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Not doing the fast long term only 1 day. Maybe once in awhile.
 
Wow just finished first of Faux fast and I lost 9lbs. Went from 310lbs to 301lbs. Was quite easy planning on eating healthy tommorow maybe a simple card or two but nothing too nuts.
 
You lost 9lbs from a days fast or did I misunderstand?

Anyway, congrats on the loss.
I think fasting can be healthy if you do it once in a while. I just don't have the will power.
Living in France I meet a lot of Muslims who do the Ramadan and they don't tend to lose weight. Maybe that's because they feast to much once the sun goes down? But they do get overly tired.
 
weightloss1 said:
You can't loose weight if you don't do exercise while dieting.
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This is rubbish. Lots of people lose weight while doing no exercise - by cutting calories.
Exercise means that you can eat more calories because the exercise will burn some of them. I would say that it is better to do exercise for that reason and to keep our bodies healthy - but exercise is not mandatory to lose weight.
 
Quoted from Mark Moyad, MD, director of preventive and alternative medicine at the University of Michigan Medical Center in Ann Arbor, and pretty much every medical professional who works in the field:

2. Myth or Fact: If you cut down on your food intake, you'll eventually shrink your stomach so you won't be as hungry.

Answer: Myth. Once you are an adult, your stomach pretty much remains the same size -- unless you have surgery to intentionally make it smaller. Eating less won't shrink your stomach, says Moyad, but it can help to reset your "appetite thermostat" so you won't feel as hungry, and it may be easier to stick with your eating plan.

Your stomach does not shrink. That's not a theory, or something that somebody pulled out of their backside, it's a medically and scientifically proven, measurable fact. The only way to 'shrink' an adult's stomach is through surgery.

Here's a better explanation:

Normal Size Stomach
When it's empty, the stomach is normally about the size of your closed fist. But because this organ has the ability to stretch, the more you eat the more enlarged your stomach becomes in order to suit the volume of its contents. It shrinks back to its normal size through the natural course of digestion as food contents move out of the stomach and into the duodenum, and then on to the small intestine.

Shrinking the Stomach
It's not possible to physically shrink the stomach beyond its normal size without surgery. It is, however, possible to feel full eating less food--which is generally the aim in wanting a smaller stomach. The way to accomplish this effect is to train your body to get used to accommodating smaller meals. Your stomach will adjust to proportions suitable for the needs of the average quantity of food you're used to taking in, in a single serving. Over time, eating smaller-portioned meals reduces the size your stomach is accustomed to inflating during mealtime.

Muscle memory, that's all there is to it.
 
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It is not the same thing at all. And once more, you display a blatant lack of reading comprehension. The stomach does not adjust to a smaller size - the size of the stomach does not change at all. It is an entirely different process.

I don't have to 'stretch', either. Your misconceptions and occasionally simply wrong information are rather obvious and easy to spot. Most of the time it is harmless, so I do not bother to reply to it, since it is more amusing than harmful to anybody. It's just when you throw out some completely wrong info, that I decide to point it out.
 
I don't recommend fasting as form of weight loss because it's like skipping meals and it is not good for our body. You can also eat but in a small amount only.
 
If you avoid dairy products, fried foods, sweets and icecreams that is more than fasting.

Your fasting seems really exciting though. I would like to know much about the results.
 
Steve53 said:
I appreciate your condescension, nurse.

Why are you even arguing this?
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I will not discuss this with you any further. Posting the article shows me clearly that you do not have the mental capacity to read and comprehend simple studies.

Oh, and one more condescending post towards anybody, one more snide remark, and I will remove you from this forum. There have been several complaints about your attitude and the way you talk to people, and you have been given a hell lot more leeway than other people.
 
When you say "all of my study participants"
- is that all 7 participants or all 8 participants?

Science is certainly about being accurate with the numbers involved - and not implying that the results were any more conclusive than they were.

I could look out of my window and draw conclusions from the first half dozen people that I saw about the local population - but I would be foolish to put much stock in what I had noted.

http://weight-loss.fitness.com/threads/59414-pilot-study-into-breakfast?p=867579#post867579
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And it was a pilot study, which means that the purpose was to show a general direction or trend, based on a hypothesis- one that runs counter to most of the Diet "common knowledge" stuff that is out there. The point was not to nail things down definitively- that would take hundreds of participants, which I was unable to find.

More intensive studies are needed, of course.

But the fact that not one person who stuck with the protocol over 3 days gained weight- probably 7-8 in total- tells you something.
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Steve53 said:
You'll loss weight, but are you going to eat like that forever?

Why not try my program?

Fast until noon each day, then eat whatever you want for the next 8 hours.

If you stick to it for 5-6 days, you might be surprised at how you feel and what you hunger for.

Plus, it might be something you can keep up for the rest of your life, and weight lost will be kept off.
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I ate the way you describe for 35 years...and that is why I have to diet now...I weigh over 300lbs. But what ever works for you, go for it...lol
 
I think the flaw in what you said is the whole "eat whatever you want for the next 8 hours". If you eat 5000 cals of greasy, salty, crap (for a random example) in those 8 hours, and eat nothing else throughout the day and never exercise, you will gain weight and be unhealthy. Period.

Your thinking may be somewhat correct, but I would say the thing to change for sure would be WHAT you are eating in those 8 hours. You can't eat anything and everything in sight, even for 1 hour a day, and expect to lose weight doing nothing else. If you are eating more than you are burning off you will always gain weight.

If you are in fact doing this, eating ONLY for 8 hours of the day, when do you start/finish eating? What do you eat during this time? Do you exercise at all, if so what and how often? And are you eating constantly for those 8 hours or do you do multiple smaller meals or snacks during the 8 hours? I'm very curious.
 
Steve53 said:
You SAY that, but did you REALLY strictly fast for 15-16 hours a day? Consistently?

You'll have to convince me.

Remember, the KEY to successful weight loss is to be honest with yourself.
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I don't have to do anything. I fasted most of the day every day, what it actually does is make you more hungry, and tend to eat more. You don't have to believe me at all. Just like I think you are off your rocker thinking skipping meals is a) healthy and b) will reduce your weight.

But, hey, it is a free country. If you want to follow a quack method, that is totally your business. Have a lovely day.
 
Steve53 said:
You SAY that, but did you REALLY strictly fast for 15-16 hours a day? Consistently?

You'll have to convince me.

Remember, the KEY to successful weight loss is to be honest with yourself.
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It's not that difficult to fast for 15-16 hours each day between sleeping and skipping one of the meals around the time you sleep (ie breakfast or dinner).

Steve53 said:
Fast until noon each day, then eat whatever you want for the next 8 hours.
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Still, like icychic said, if you're eating whatever you want over an 8 hour time period and not watching what you eat/your calorie intake vs what you burn in a day, then you will gain weight. By the way, "eat whatever you want" doesn't imply a diet or meal plan at all.
 
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You claim to have done a pilot study. I'm curious: have you been published? And if so where are the published results? Otherwise you cannot claim that fasting for 16 hours and eating whatever you want for 8 hours contributes to weight loss. I am calling bullshit on you, sir. Have a nice day.
 
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Also, how many people were in this study? How did you choose the participants?

And you still haven't answer me: what do you eat in those 8 hours that you allow yourself to eat anything, what did the participants of the study eat? To me that still makes a HUGE difference. You claim it decreases people's want for sugar and you claim that people aren't as hungry and so while they could eat anything and everything, perhaps they don't eat more calories than they burn? In that case it isn't necessarily the fasting itself that causes the weight loss, but the fact they are not eating more cals than they are burning off.
 
But if you don't know what they ate in that 8 hours, is it not possible that they simply ate less calories than they burned and in the end that is what caused the weight loss? And that in fact it had nothing to do with the fasting? And if they changed what they ate compared to before the study, for example went from eating fast food all the time to more fruits and veggies and healthy foods, it would be that change that caused all the rest of the findings, not the fasting.

And again, while you may not know what your participants are eating, you know what you are eating and still have not stated that. If you believe so much that this works, why not tell us what you are eating in that 8 hour period and how much exercise you are doing in a day, and if you have a desk job or a more manual labor one? All of those factors could be the reason this works for you, and not the fasting itself.
 
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