Creatine = good for abs

realworksuks said:
Glad to hear the creatine is working for you. When I started using creatine I gained five pounds of water weight and all of my lifts were all increased a level. It was a great feeling...

Benching 155 felt like 135 before the creatine, rowing 130 felt like 100 before the creatine, etc. It's awesome.

BCAA's are really great too, you said you were taking those too right?
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Hmmm what are Bcaa's ? My creatine isent pure its a mix with dextrose and some other things which is apparently only good after a workout so thats the only time i am using it now. Going to buy some Creatine monohydrate tho soon for off days and before workouts. derwydon is going to help me with my diet tho for free which is pretty cool :)
 
SmithMachine said:
Hmmm what are Bcaa's ? My creatine isent pure its a mix with dextrose and some other things which is apparently only good after a workout so thats the only time i am using it now. Going to buy some Creatine monohydrate tho soon for off days and before workouts. derwydon is going to help me with my diet tho for free which is pretty cool :)
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BCAA's are branched amino acids, building blocks of protein.

Yeah, I wouldn't use that creatine with dextrose unless it's after workouts too.

Dextrose is just very simple sugar, and the only reason it's ok post workout is because you want a fast acting sugar to deliver the amino acids to your muscles.. you do take a protein drink right? That's where the amino acids would come from unless you get it from something else.
 
At the moment i spend all my money on supps...I have protien powder, naNO vapor, Fish oils, and creatine with the dextrose. Thinking about getting a grinder and some flax seeds since there pretty cheap apparently and really good for you
 
Chillen said:
I leaned down and got my abs to show, and got to 8% BF "without" any "major" supps. The "only" things I currently take are: Fish oils, Flax Oils, and Whey. Creatine is NOT an absolute necessary supp IMO within the context we are speaking.

In addition, at one point in August IR max 340lbs on the bench (5' 7" 154lbs) without creatine and I was "splitting" my diet deficit/surplus days 4:3. If I would have applied a surplus continued throughout the week, and tweaked my weight training (and contents of diet), I am sure this would have went up (just makes sense).

Im an old man (46), and if anyone has a deficiency or "less than prime" internal chemicals it would be a person at my age. Not to mention possible longer recovery (rest between WO's) possibly.


Good Ole Fashioned hard work (training) and deficit dieting are the miracle workers.

Speaking for myself, I "earned" my low body fat without fat loss pills, (and muscle gains "appropriate" for my goals) without creatine, or any other "pills" other than fat oils and Whey powder. I addition, one "doesnt" need fat loss pills the last few pounds, this is hog wash will not make it come off any faster nor be a small or large miracle worker, lol.

Its just me, but I dont need the stuff to meet my personal goals. If I work hard, and BLAST OFF........I will EARN my goal without a problem. But, like I said, this is just me.

Im more concerned about progression and "response from my body"---rather than "specifically" the weight being used on exercises pertaining to Ab/torso. These exercises while they may have some benefits (of course), it is NOT "the thing" that brings out the abs. Its genetics (body composition--look at people's torso's, they are not made the same), and diet to bring a low body fat percentage.

On a side note. My abs have always been large. I can honestly say that they are the SAME size now as they were when I first started. If they did grow any, it isnt an obvious growth to my naked eye. I have gained more in strength, endurance, and flex/control ability than anything else when we are disussing the ab/torso region.

ROCK ON! Everyone!



Best wishes to all of you!



Chillen
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im not saying this is the case here but i know for a fact that alot of times people dont care wether its necessary or not they want to get there hands on anything that can boost performance(athletes) i have many underage friends (15 etc...) on supps like creatine and even use of fat burners.... very sad im0
 
SmithMachine said:
At the moment i spend all my money on supps...I have protien powder, naNO vapor, Fish oils, and creatine with the dextrose. Thinking about getting a grinder and some flax seeds since there pretty cheap apparently and really good for you
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What form is your fish oil? FWIW I quit doing the fish oil capsules in favor of the liquid. A teaspon (I do tablespoon doses) gives you as much EFA's as multiple pills.

Also, I know most people grind their own flax seeds, but I buy mine already milled. Found a place where I can buy it in 20lb quantities, and it's very finely ground...great to include in whey shakes as well. Also gives a great source of fiber. I keep the bulk in the freezer, and pull out about a pound at a time in the fridge.
 
SmithMachine said:
At the moment i spend all my money on supps...I have protien powder, naNO vapor, Fish oils, and creatine with the dextrose. Thinking about getting a grinder and some flax seeds since there pretty cheap apparently and really good for you
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I just buy flax seeds already grounded up, I got 2.5 pounds for ten dollars. I sprinkle them all over my oatmeal/cereal in the morning.

Nano Vapor huh? I just looked into that a bit and it looks really powerful... how is that working for you? Anyone else tried Nano Vapor?
 
lol a real bodybuilder... anyways I just eat a can of tuna (or 2; usually 1.5 and i save the other .5 for the next day) and a box or 2 (serving size) of cheerios, and some caffeine if i'm feeling tired.
 
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Your main goal is to get enough carbs to power a good workout, enough protein to help make your quota to help you heel, and avoid fat like the devil pre/post workout.
 
mreik said:
lol a real bodybuilder... anyways I just eat a can of tuna (or 2; usually 1.5 and i save the other .5 for the next day) and a box or 2 (serving size) of cheerios, and some caffeine if i'm feeling tired.
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Mreiks arm looks like he uses roids or he ither has been working out a long time and has pretty good genetics.
 
SmithMachine said:
Mreiks arm looks like he uses roids or he ither has been working out a long time and has pretty good genetics.
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You think that that is Mreik for real? That is a picture from the internet. He is a spectacled geek with a masters degree who has worked or works in a pharmacy.
 
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