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Thanks. I have been to the information session. I was wondering about the blood test, it is only testing fasting glucose, liver and kidney functioning, which have nothing to do with human growth hormone, insulin, or serotonun. I weigh a tad over 150kg and have tried everything, including gastric stapling and over the time the weight goes back on, only more. Is there anybody out there that has started the program weighing over 130kg and have successfully kept the weight off. I just don't won't be lead down another money grabbing opportunistic individual prying on the vulnerabilities of the obese.
 
Hi all
God i wish i had more staying power! i was doing so well last week - 5 days of staying on the diet and then the weekened happened. i find that when i'm bored that's when i eat. and being in a new city with not many friends, i'm quite often at home and bored watching tv. and so i eat. and then last night i ate too and today. its bad, plus its that time of the month maybe that's it. i haven't been taking my vitamins because i need to get some more. but the ones at the clinic are $70 for the bottles and i can't afford taht all the time. just gonna have to buy the ones from the supermarket that have more than 5mg of vit b6, which is bad, but i guess with chromium that'll be alright. anyway, water intake is going well. i drink 500ml as soon as i get out of bed, then have my yogurt. also, because i do shift work, i go back to bed for a while. they say if you have water as soon as you get up, even before brekkie, it's really really really good for you. and i read ages ago and never said anything, but someone posted that they wanted to have dinner but it was too late, after 9pm.. well i have dinner jsut about every night about 9-10 pm, and don't go to bed till late. as long as you eat 1 1/2 hrs before you go to bed, that's fine. hence i go to bed normally about 1am.
anyway, back on the wagon as of right now
i'm not changing my ticker, nothing to change there. gone up if anything
remember - wagons of steel! :D
 
Scale Hopping

Hi Gals!

Cryss- Look at you go! Embracing the power of water! :) I take my hat off to you for downing a litre before 9am. If I did that I'd be looking for the toilet every 5minutes, which being in the car all day is not convenient. I finish my first litre by 1pm and my second by 5pm. And then I have my third when I get home. If I'm not working I have to admit I am a guzzler and will get through it a lot quicker.

On the subject of scales...
I confess I am also a member of Weighers Anon. I am aware that weight fluctuates and I am prepared to take the ups with the downs and I dont let it bother me. In my case a loss, spurs me on and a gain only makes me more determined. Also I am almost ready to order refeed so need to keep an eye on it and in fact am enjoying the countdown.
I originally thought I would only weigh every week, but that didnt last for long... Guess who was the kid who could never wait till Christmas??? :p

This is day 10 back on the wagon and I have to say I keep wanting to cheat because I am constantly hungry :( (which I've been told is a sign that its nearly time for refeed- either that or this month's period is really wreaking havoc) I eat brekky at 8am. Today I was hungry just after 10am. And every night, by the time I go to bed I am hungry again and when I wake in the middle of the night I am so aware of my growly tummy. So Rajah- I feel your pain ;) Its hard enough on this diet to always be good let alone when your body is hungry.

Anyway thats enough from me for now.
Hope everyone is doing really well!
Nat :)
 
the proof is in the pudding!

:p Not literally pudding! But the proof of my resolve is in the living through temptation and coming through unscathed!

Today I had a meeting that went for 3 hours over lunch, fully catered, my favorite food SANDWICHES. I went out to the fridge, picked up my Chilli Chicken Salad and Nectarine, filled up my water and sat and watched everyone else eat the yummy sandwiches while I ate my yummy lunch!

THEN, my cousin came over for dinner tonight, I made chill's prawns and salad, she drank wine I drank water and then we both had a coffee.

No pressure, no guilt, no missing out, no temptation.

This isn't easy, it's not like I'm living a dream here, it is hard, but the energy and drive are back. I'm not questioning why they are here, but I'm ensuring that they don't have any reason to vanish again, I'm back in the mindset that I was in back in Oct and Nov.

Casey: Drink water, you will truly see the results. 3 days into it and it's like month one all over again.

lizzi: thanks for the support girl, I can't believe the support I get on here from what for all intense and purpose are strangers, and my own friends and family try and put me down and sabotage me.

dreamer: thanks for the support and the lovely comments re my pic, this is what I looked like a few years ago, before I got swallowed by JABBA, you should have see my big round face, I'll post one of those pics, it is disgusting, this is the face I want my fiancée to see not the balloon he has to look at now!

ksch2004: If you need to lose weight more than anything else in your life, this is the program for you, I say the first line because of the absolute focus and determination you have to have to make it work, because like most things it works, you just have to stick to it. You could say well why don't I try something like WW, that too will work if I stick to it and it won't be as hard, and you are right. The thing that sets Cohen's apart is that it works and it works QUICK, at our size you need to see some results QUICKLY, you need to see that huge sacrifice paying off, once you see that, the sacrifice is worth it. If you decide to do it, the only thing I would recommend is staying with this forum and drinking water. If you stick to your plan, come to us to celebrate and frustrate and drink your water, it will fall off!!

rjm: I have to be honest, some nights if the dogs didn't keep moving I'd chew their bloody paws off I'm so hungry! And other nights I'm fine. Not wanting to sound like a broken record here (but I will) but if you have HUGE glass of water when you think you are hungry, it goes, you feel full and bloated, and food just isn't an option. Problem is you need to be able to control your reactive instincts to eat food without thinking. Has anyone had that same problem? I used to just put things in my mouth without even registering what they were or how much I was eating. No wonder I got to where I was in such a short time.

Ok well love to the gang, you know who you are, Moni, keep an eye on the post girl ... we love you and you are SO CLOSE TO DOUBLE DIGITS!!!! I'm just waiting for that phone call!!!!!!

Stay safe, stay good and stay skinny!:p

I would like to draw everyones attention to the ticker and how close I am to having under 50 to lose!
 
Day by day, step by step

Hi everyone,

Just a quick hello to everyone. Still trying to recover from my weekend - both physically and emotionally and am finding I am also hungry. On Monday went off track as I now realise I was eating to overcome the tiredness. I also have been forgetting to drink anything. Cryss and Moni I am taking notice of your water advice and will try harder to remember to drink. Don't know how you do it early in the morning as I get queasy.

Moni: you now have reached over the halfway mark and you are on the home run to your weightloss. Well done!!

Cryss: you have achieved one third of your goal and soon will also be at the half way mark. I need to stick with you both so I can also achieve this. Getting through that work lunch was also a great achievement. We have to think of it as one day at a time, one step at a time.

ksch2004: good luck with whatever you decide to do. It's not easy and we all have our ups and downs but we are all here in the same boat and the support is fantastic!

dreamer: you have done very well and it's great to see you are back on track and very focussed. You are very motivating in your words and will achieve your goals.

lizzi: you are a driving force with your motivational writings and look forward for more. keep it up.

Nat: I think I set up Weighers Anon. ;) Maybe you need to start your refeed if you are so hungry. Maybe your goal is too low for you and you are not eating enough to sustain your bodyweight. Just a thought.

lisab: good to see you back on track. Maybe while watching TV you can take up a hobby so that your mind and hands are busy on something else. Isn't it amazing how we automatically eat and its supposed to overcome boredom!!!!! Been there lots of times.

Anyway time to go to bed, hope everyone has a good night.
 
Hi everyone. Thanks for all your supportive words. I don't know if I will go back on the program fully, but I am having some trouble with cravings since I have stopped doing the program again. I haven't had this problem since before I started and it's worrying me as this is how i gained the weight in the first place. Maybe I should do the program for 2 weeks again, and then do the re-feed again. ( you have to be on the program for 2 weeks without breaking it to do the re-feed).
Welcome to ksch2004. This program is absolutely wonderful, but you must stick to it 110%. It is really, really hard to get back on track if you break it. I started the diet on 1/7/05 weighing 110kg and I did the re-feed at the beginning of November weighing 75kg, so a loss of 35 kg in 4 months. I have been off the program for 3.5 months now and have not re-gained any weight. We have been on 2 family holidays and I have eaten anything I want during this time. I am only having trouble now because I decided to go back on the program to lose my last 10kg, and have found this harder than I anticipated. The weight loss is incredibly fast, and encouraging.
Lizzi - I ate everything I was allowed, and I always drink heaps of water. I maybe just forgot that I was hungry while doing it before. Not sure. I might try getting some of that chromium. I did increase my exercise levels during the end of the program, but have stopped going to the gym till my body adjusts to the program.
Cryss - good to know I'm not the only one having this problem. I don't tend to just put food in my mouth, but I "talk" myself into breaking the diet. I tell myself that maybe I don't have enough fat left for my body to burn ( due to limited amounts of food), and that's why I'm getting hungry or a million other excuses, and eventually convince myself that the only option is to break the diet and eat something. Anyway, it's great to have everyone to talk to, and I think I may have talked myself into giving it another go as I think I really need to do the re-feed again.
Thanks again everyone. Talk to you soon.
Beck
 
Hi girls,

Just a quick note to say thank you to everyone who kicked my bum about the water thing - the last two days I have managed 3L a day and it really makes a difference. I'm in the 80's now! Okay not very far into the 80's, but still there!

I have to rush but I just wanted to say to each and every woman here that you are all truly inspirational, and I am so glad that I found this place. Sometimes things don't go according to plan, but that's because life gets in the way, and my thinking is that while this is a diet I'm going to come off eventually, the way I'm listening and thinking about my body is something that I'm going to live with for the rest of my life, so I'm going to start being very kind to myself.

Lots of hugs and luck to everyone

Hollygolightly xx
 
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agh dont know what i am doing today or what i did yesterday !!! yesterday was starving so ate everything, totaly off the wagon it ran over me ! Today have had my yoghurt for breakfast and thats all I MUST EAT and keep up the water.
 
Challenge

Hi everyone,

I hope you are all seeing your scales moving in the right direction.

PinkVirgo - I think your idea is great and if we find it too easy we can change it later. How about we compare notes after you have finished your first 4 weeks and we can compare your first 4 weeks to mine. Does that sound ok to you? I think my loss will slow down dramatically soon but I'm hoping that it will still be at least 1.5kg per week.

Be strong everyone, I want to see those tickers moving! :D

blula
 
Hello everyone!!! Long time no post but I have to say my life has been tipped upside down at the moment but Im not gonna make any excuses to eat myself silly as in the old mindset I would of.
INSPIRATION PLUS MY GOD MONI you are and have to be the next face and testimonial for cohens but make sure they pay you lots of money ok. For all those ladies out there that have given up hope look at this lady and know this can be done, gee i feel like a real fool when ive got 16kg to go and really struggle at times but it definately has to be the right mindset, and the water to flush out the fat, but I think too liking and accepting the new you cos thats something ive always struggled with, liking myself is hard whether im 100kg or 68kg so I think if we get our head around that then we are home and hose.
I just wanted to say a quick hello to everyone and say not long til biggest loser Aus so lets keep our motivation going and dont give up if you are having a rough time sticking to it dont give up on yourself and trust and believe in yourself.
On a funny note my 2 year old just took her nappy off and sat on the potty and the funny thing as she sat on the potty it was too late but managed one pebble in the potty the rest on the floor GOD BLESS HER FOR TRYING ha ha.
Talk soon, CHOCOLATE IS NOT MY BEST FRIEND!!!!!!! CHEZ ;)
 
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the truth about water

hey girls, I stole this from another forum thread Wonderwoman posted this, she is a moderator.

Very very interesting.

why water is so important for weight loss

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Quote from Wonderwomannormally i drink 68-70 oz of water per day. i think someone on here told me it was too much so i decided to look it up and find out for sure! as it turns out i should be drinking 80 oz per day because i am 25 pounds overweight plus i exercise daily. so im going to copy and paste what i have found.

Incredible as it may seem... Water is the single most important catalyst in losing weight and keeping it off!

Although most of us take it for granted...

Pure, clean water may be the only true Magic Potion for permanent weight loss!

Water suppresses the appetite naturally and helps the body metabolize stored fat. Studies have shown that a decrease in water intake will cause fat deposits to increase!

And an increase in water intake can actually reduce fat deposits!

Here's the reason why...

The kidneys cannot function properly without enough water. When they do not work to capacity, some of their load is dumped on the liver. One of the liver's primary functions is to metabolize stored fat into usable energy for the body. But if the liver has to do some of the kidney's work, it cannot work at full throttle.

As a result, it metabolizes less fat... more fat remains stored in the body and weight loss stops!

Drinking an adequate amount of water every day is the best treatment for fluid retention. But when your body is given less water than it needs... it perceives the shortage as a threat to survival and will begin to retain every drop. Water reserves are stored in extra-cellular spaces (outside the cells). This water can show up as swollen feet, hands and legs.

Diuretics only offer a temporary solution at best. They force out stored water along with some essential nutrients. Again, the body perceives a threat and will replace the lost water at the first opportunity. Thus, the condition quickly returns.

The best way to overcome the problem of water retention is to give your body what it needs - plenty of water - only then will stored water be released.

If water retention is a constant problem for you... excess salt may be to blame.

Your body will only tolerate sodium in certain concentrations. The more salt you eat, the more water your system retains to dilute it. But getting rid of unneeded salt is easy -- just drink water! As the water is forced through the kidneys, it will remove the excess sodium.

Over weight people need more water than thin people. Larger people have larger metabolic loads. Since we know that water is the key to fat metabolism... it follows that the over weight person needs more water to metabolize excess fat.

Water helps to maintain proper muscle tone... which in turn, aids proper muscle contraction and prevents dehydration. It also helps to prevent the sagging skin that usually follows weight loss. Shrinking cells are buoyed by water which plums the skin and leaves it clear, healthy and resilient. Water helps rid the body of waste. During weight loss, the body has more waste to get rid of - all that metabolized fat must be shed.

Again . . . Water helps flush out this waste!

Water can help relieve constipation...

The colon is a primary internal water source. When the body gets too little water, it siphons what it needs from internal sources. Result? Constipation. But when a person drinks enough water... normal bowel function will return.

So far, we have discovered same remarkable truths about water and about weight loss... the body will not function properly without enough water and cannot metabolize stored fat efficiently. On the household weight scales... Retained water shows up as excess weight.

It may seem strange, but to get rid of excess water... you must drink more water! Drinking water is essential to losing weight.

How much water is enough?

If you are of normal weight for your height, then on average you should drink (8) eight -- 8 oz. glasses of pure water every day. However, if you are overweight you should take (1) one additional glass for every 25 lbs. of excess weight you are trying to lose. The amount that you drink should be increased if you exercise, or if the weather is hot and dry.

Preferably, your drinking water should be taken cold...

Cold water is absorbed more quickly into the system than warm water. Some evidence suggests that drinking cold water can actually burn calories. To utilize water most efficiently during weight loss, follow this schedule:


Morning: 1 Quart (approx 1 ltr) of pure water over 30 minutes
Noon: 1 Quart (approx 1 ltr) of pure water over 30 minutes
Evening: 1 Quart (approx 1 ltr) of pure water between 5-6 P.M.

When the body gets all the water it needs to function optimally, all body system fluids will perfectly balance.

When this happens . . . you reach the "breakthrough point".

So what does that mean?
Endocrine gland function improves...


Fluid retention is alleviated as stored water is lost...


More fat can be used as fuel because the liver is free to
metabolize stored fat...


and here is the link:

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I Finally Got My Rpogram

Hello All,

I finally recived my program today ... after a few stuff ups etc and am all set to begin tomorrow. I can't tell you how frustrated i was about the whole thing turning into a fiasco. But all is sorted and I am all prepared for this new stage of my life. BRING ON THAT SKINNY HOT BODY THAT HIDES UNDER THESE FATTY LAYERS. I thought that coz i haven't been on for ages etc that I'd put my stats up again which are : 23 year old female, weigh 75 kgs and my goal weight is 54 kgs, so i have 21 kilos to lose all up. I am looking forward to atcually being able to participate in this forum regulary now that i have joined the "COHENS CLUB" hehe.

I have just had a quick skip over all the posts and am totally inspired as always and am happy to see some newbies. I totally get the whole drinking heaps of water everyday ... if i dont i get extreme headahces so am aiming to drink 2 of my 1.5 litre water bottles each day but i tend to drink more thanks to my gym session - I am signed up with CURVES although my Cohen's advisor wasn't to keen on it but i was fortunate enough to talk to a girl whom has been on Cohens for a few weeks and she said it hasn't affected her.

Anyways, take care all. Will report in tomorrow as to how i go. PS whats something cold i can make for Breakfast that includes yoghurt and fruit?
 
Water, water, water.......

Hi all,
Great to see everyone doing so well. I have just had my 4 litres of water.....just need to keep it up everyday.

Pinkcandy: good luck with your program. This is wonderful support here and you will reach your goal.

Casey: Think of today as a new day and put yesterday behind you. Are you taking your vitamins, they may help so you're not hungry.

Cryss: What great research and facts you present. It was a very interesting read and actually explained very well the effects of water.
If you are of normal weight for your height, then on average you should drink (8) eight -- 8 oz. glasses of pure water every day. However, if you are overweight you should take (1) one additional glass for every 25 lbs. of excess weight you are trying to lose. The amount that you drink should be increased if you exercise, or if the weather is hot and dry.
I think I need to drink a very large tank with a hose attached. ;)

Going to have another glass right now. :)
 
Yoghurt and fruit

Hi all, sorry I forgot

Pinkcandy: try the yoghurt with either mango or an orange. Quite yummy and filling. It took me a while to get used to the yoghurt but now I usually have yoghurt each day and on weekends when I have more time, I have the egg with vegetables as a frittata (omelette).

Everyone have a good night.
 
cryss, that water thing was great!! i forwarded it to my mum cuz she doesn't drink ANY water at all!!! she came to visit in november and i was 75kg then and she got a shock because for once i was skinier than her, but i'm 173cm. she's about 158cm and 83kg. and after she saw me and witnessed cohens in action, she thought she'd try and shed a couple of kgs. so i forced her to drink water!! plus she takes something for really bad high blood pressure and it works like a diuretic so she's always complaining that by drinking the water she has to pee a lot!!! at the moment she's only having 4 glasses of water max. so this just explains how she's fully got the vicious cycle happening there... and to solve everything... guess what - more water!!!!!!!
so anyway, my problem isn't the water intake.. its stopping myself from eating crap!!! i'm having the tea tonight - i've got the extra strong stuff. i'll be running to the loo tomorrow, guaranteed.
good luck everyone, for a brand new day!!!
GOD, I just realised that my favourite poster i have (its a no fear one) the saying on it is "face your fears, live your dreams" and well that so applies to this so damn it.... i'm just gonna have to do it now!!!
lisa:eek:
 
Breakfast Idea

Hi Everyone,
Not much to report from my end, still struggling with not eating 'goodies'.The blackmores vitamins seem to do nothing. My weight loss was much better when I was taking Centrum and I was not craving at all.

Cryss & Moni- I think you are so right about the water. When you read what the 'supermodels' and celebrities swear by - its drinking litres and litres of water a day. If I drink anything over 3 litres consistently I do get lots of cramps in my legs, but if I stick to this or alternate between 2 - 3 litres I seem to do okay. I am finding now that if I don't drink my water I end up with bad headaches.

Pinkcandy - Congratulations on recieving your program. One of the breaky ideas I have got from this forum was to cook an apple in the microwave and serve it either hot or cold with the yogurt and sprinkle it with cinnamon. Its really really yummy - almost like you are cheating!;)

Kayseysmum - Great to see you posting. I am very much looking forward to the Biggest Loser next week too. Don't you hate it when magazines have to spoil things before a show starts though? I don't know who wins but I do know of one of the contestants not finishing as there was a big write up about it in the paper last week.

Mel - I did see that Matt & Suzi were dating too......how freaky was that?

Nat - Thanks for the coffee today. Its always so lovely to meet up with the ladies from the forum..its like meeting up with an old girlfriend.Oh......and girls.......I think a few requests for Nat to post a new photo should be done....she is a stunner.:D

Thats it for me today. Hoping for a better day diet wise tommorow.

Night ladies,,,keep up the fantastic work!

Myshy
 
Hello everyone

Just a quick note because I don't have much time this morning, but I wanted to say how encouraging all the posts are.
I agree the water is so good. thanks for the article Cryss, it says so much doesn't it about the importance.

To everyone who is hungry: the chromium is fantastic stuff. I discovered it before I started Cohens and it really works. You can buy it easily on it's own. Nature's Own for instance, is a good brand and not too expensive. Take one with breakfast, and if that is not enough, for a couple of days, I would take one at afternoon tea or dinner as well. That's all it takes!!
I haven't taken them for a long time now, but I used to take them daily - IT WORKS. I have done a lot of work in the past about vitamins and minerals and I know that sometimes taking the right thing or doubling the dosage of your vitamins for a while will give your system a huge boost.
DON'T ANYONE GIVE UP WHEN SOMETHING THIS SIMPLE CAN HELP!!

I got to go now, but have a good day everyone.
Lizzi
 
Yeah, Yeah, Yeah I know!!!

:eek: Yes girls, the most natural abundent source, yes -water is the key for weight loss.

Before Cohens I NEVER drank water. I lived on "COKE" - ABOUT 2-3LITRES a day, and cigarettes- both I can proudly say I have given up.

The thought of having a smok now makes me nearly sick, but I love the smell still - it that normal??

On lighter note (OR HEAVIER)my husband has started the new tablets that are being advertised on the TV, you know the one where they say what they have lost and see your pharamacist to BOOST your diet.:rolleyes:

Well Tony got these tablet on sunday costing a $120 ( I nearly died) for 1 month. He started on Monday, but the problem is he hasn't changed anything, still has the same rotten eating habits and wondering why he only lost 0.3kg since Monday.:eek:

EXAMPLE of his luch Tuesday: Chip+Chicken and gravy on a white roll.:eek:

Although I will give some credit he doesn't seem to be eating as much bread and peanut butter.

Any how I have been going OK, SLIGHTLY SLIPPED OFF THD WAGON last night- I had the worst diarahea last night. :mad: That'll teach me won't it.

Anyway the scales haven't changed which is a good thing in a way.

Gotta get my 4yr old ready for pre school...:D

Bye for Now...;)
 
On track and trucking through those temptations

hey girls,

all seems to be going well here.

BBQ at work, there was all this fuss from the team that I get and invite. Anyway I was skillfully able to tell three or four people that I had been down earlier and grabbed something to eat! If I'd have told them I was dieting all hell would have broken lose. So the little white lie came in handy.

Same as tonight went out to the mall, normally I'd have stopped for something, stopped for nothing, bought what I had to came home, made my chilli beef salad and 750mls water.

It's all good, I'm trucking down the water when ever I feel starving, if 750mls doesn't cure it, I eat a cracker!

This weekend will be hard, I have an invite to a fully catered function on one of the Volvo Yacht race boats. But I might try the white lie re 'already eaten'.

Girls I'll talk to you all over the weekend.

Hopefully a few kg's lighter.:p
 
Hi Y'all!!!

Hope everyone has been good today ;)

Myshy- It was so great to catch up with you the other day! You're so right- it is like meeting an old friend! :) And its just so great to chat to someone who understands! I'm so much more motivated to stay on the straight and narrow now too.
I highly recommend if you have a fellow Cohens-er near you, getting together over coffee. It makes everything so much easier and more tolerable. Well it did for me ;)
And Michelle- thanks for the compliment. It means a lot to me. Especially coming from someone as gorgeous as yourself! But me thinks the photo stays :p

Pink Candy- I cant believe how long it took for your program to come through! What was the hold up? So how did your first day go? :)

Lizzi- thanks for the advice on the chromium. I think I may invest in a bottle to top me up when the chromium in my multi isnt enough. Like when i am PMS-ing. :p

Stay good over the weekend everyone :p
Nat :)
 
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