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less fatty it is a marketing/sales persons job to increase our "Percieved Value" by as little as 1c and we will buy. Peoples percieved values differ greatly, for some their self worth and percieved value of the $680 we spent for this program is way to expensive, for others it is nothing, and would gladly pay double, even if it was a financial stretch. I am in sales and i see it every day. Same product, different percieved value, different prices..... it can vary from person to person, store to store (and not just due to customer demographics!)


I know this is off topic, but how much do you think you could sell a miracle bottle of "-1KG"? Say at large department store like Myers or David Jones (like Nordstrom in USA, or Takashima in Singapore)? No ifs or buts, absolutely be assured of a -1KG loss over the next 4 days? Anyone who pays up drinks the contents of the magic bottle will lose safely 1KG of fat in 4 days, 100% of the time without execulsions?

How much would it be worth? I think I could sell bottles of "-1KG" it for US$10,000 a bottle ( in crystal bottles with purple labels gold trim) to a restricted market.

But priced at $1000 a bottle of "-1KG" the market would be huge, that means only only US$20K to lose a life changing 20K over 80days. Discounted it to $10K for a dozen bottles for advanced order. It would be "bigger" than Viagra :D I would sell it in departments stores near the cosmetics area staffed with immaculatly groomed slim ladies in white coats, who job is to say each other and you "you will look wonderful, you will look much better" with all round general nods of agreement.

Of course it is just 1/2 a joke because by following Cohen's I do lose 1KG every 4 days....no if's or buts or maybes; it just happens like clockwork, I can tell everyone that by next wednesday I will wiegh 98.5 KG. The only difference is that I cannot "pig out", and the solution takes some planning and self control on my part.
 
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The Wagon Has Gone Haywire...

Hey Everyone,

I am one Naughty Girl..

My wagon has gone beserk, and ive fallen off..

I will get back on, but by golly it isnt easy..

So for any of you contemplating on deviating.. DO NOT DO IT! Once you get the taste of yummy old food, you will just melt.. its so hard to be good again.. believe me, ive been trying for 3 weeks now to be good again..

Anyways, enough of my crap, hope everyone is well.. :)

Keep on going, ill try again.. WILL POWER!!! Thats all i need a bit of.. Wheres my Mo-jo gone?.. :(
 
What A Day Full Of Opinions!!!!!!

Hi all,

Today has really been a day full of opinions. Its been great to see, even tho everyone has given a slightly different comment, all in all, everyone agrees that no matter what might be behind the closed doors of Dr Cohens laboratory, if its working for us, thats ALL that matters.

Jewls - So glad to hear the pain is lessening in your ankle. Ive been following your progress since the fall and winced when I first read what happened. I sympathise with you and the fright you must have gotten whilst falling. Good thing is your on your way to recovery and lots of weight loss. Keep up the positive spirit!!! My thoughts are with you.

Bridetobe - Congratulations on your upcoming marriage and more importantly at the moment, you decision and commitment to do this amazing program. I wish you all the luck and best wishes.

8-2 Much - I have to agree with your comments and you do inspire me to continue with this amazing program. Thank you.

BAM - Im so sorry to hear the difficult time your having in getting back on that bloody rickety old wagon. Id give you a hand up if I could, as I know how easy it is to be bounced off and then have trouble climbing back up. Hang in there and I hope and pray you will manage to swing that leg up high enough to climb back on.

Hope everyones having a lighter day.

Cheers
 
Myshy - I eat eggs and veggies, tofu and veggies, yoghurt and cheese and veggies.

Lessfatty - I love reading your posts. I don't agree with everything you say but you certainly put a lot of thought into your posts and have a very considered point of view. What you had to say about how you end up 'coming off' diets was spot on.

Regarding whether or not there is a Dr Cohen - I have the added motivation of getting my weight off by December 15 or something because apparently dr Cohen is going on holidays for two weeks. It might be an incentive (like if you're good Santa wil come) but I don't care, I'm motivated!
 
Hey Everyone,

My wagon has gone beserk, and ive fallen off..

I will get back on, but by golly it isnt easy..

So for any of you contemplating on deviating.. DO NOT DO IT! Once you get the taste of yummy old food, you will just melt.. its so hard to be good again.. believe me, ive been trying for 3 weeks now to be good again..

Anyways, enough of my crap, hope everyone is well.. :)

Keep on going, ill try again.. WILL POWER!!! Thats all i need a bit of.. Wheres my Mo-jo gone?.. :(

Hi BAM,
I think you probably need more than will power.

because of business lunches etc, I deviate quite often..... sometimes worse than others!! But each day is a new day, and I start again, most times without much difficulty in getting going again. Only when I have regular deviations, like last weeks conference, do I find it hard to get going again. This week has felt like week1 all over again, with headaches etc.

It would be good for you to really analyse what you are thinking/ feeling etc when you deviate, cause then you can prepare for it.

Do you feel happy at the weight you are now? You've lost quite a bit of weight, and as lessfatty mentioned above, often our weight loss success causes us to become complacent.

Do you tend to deviate in particular situations. Although I eat out alot, my worst deviations have happened when I'm on my own. EVERYONE I eat out with knows from the moment we sit down to eat that I'm on a special diet. I tell them straight away, so there is peer pressure on me to eat the right thing. But when I'm on my own, its much harder to resist all the little goodies that surround me.

Do you deviate when you are bored/lonely/ upset etc etc - ie is it emotional eating.

Are you actually eating things that do taste really yummy? Often those of us who are overweight have gotten used to eating crappy low fat foods that taste like cardboard and just encourage us to eat more because they are not satisfying.

Are you eating particular types of food? what are you craving? I haven't found myself craving on this program, but previously when I've lost weight, I've craved chocolate and ice cream, and I've been able to replace yoghurt to meet the craving. I've also craved red meat, which fortunately on this program I have plenty of!

One of the lessons I learned on previous weight loss programs is that if you do deviate, its important that you stop and analyse the deviation and learn from it, so you can be prepared in the future.

WHile I know we are supposed to have a zero tolerance for deviations, I've found that if I'm eating out over a period of several days, I just can't continue to resist the food. So, I set myself a time and plan a deviation ahead of time. I choose something extremely satisfying in texture and taste and I only eat the very best...... I don't waste deviations on crap food..... I find this way, I actually eat much less - a taste is often enough. and if the time comes, and I dont feel I need the food, I don't eat it. But delaying the gratification helps to both stop overeating in the meantime, and helps me to really plan what I'm going to do. Then I start the next meal fresh, back on the program. If I'm going to deviate, I don't eat my crispbreads for the day, and often also reduce my fruit.

So, I would encourage you to spend some time thinking about why you are struggling and work on changing the thought patterns and habits which are contributing to your struggles.
 
Bam

You can do it BAM!!!
Start fresh...pretend it's day 1. When I deviated, this is what I did...but told myself that I was 6kg lighter than my last day 1...so even better. Try and reason with yourself that you are 17kg lighter and that you can lose again....you will lose again!

We are all here to motivate each other....and YOU motivated me in the past...you've had much better losses than me too!

Keep your own journal thread, I do...and when I deviate, at least I can write it down instead of disappearing for 2 weeks because I feel I can't show my virtual face again until I'm back on track! (yes we did miss you!)

Don't just stop half way...just think about how great you'll feel when you accomplish your goal weight!!! Sexy summer clothes....great bod for the beach...anything will fit you...you'll feel more alive....just don't stop now!
 
Yay

Hi everyone,
just thought I would drop a quick line because I had to share! I'm having a bloody brilliant week!! This morning I put on my 'skinny pants' and they are now so bagy I look like I'm walking around with a massive dag hanging off my butt!!! MMWWAAAHHHHAHAHHAAA:D Not too attractive but damn it make me feel good!! And people are noticing, I can't believe it!! And I can actually see my jawline and cheekbones again - I thought they were gone foreva! Woohoo! And just to top things off (and it couldn't of happened at a more needed time) wait for it.... drum roll..... I just won $5000.00 on lotto!!!! Woohooooooo 'now dancing around my office!!! Talk about wonderful changes happening in my life, I'm so stoked I can hardly breathe!! Have a great night everyone!! And bring on Cohen's it kicks arse!
 
sorry everyone!!

i'm heaps sorry about what i caused about the crispbreads. i was a little angry at the time, but if anything, i'm more disappointed with these so called "good crispbreads", etc.

i'm following cohen's 110%, have lost 13kg in just over 6 weeks. i'm happy to keep following, and i wouldn't have paid my $680 otherwise.

again, i'm sorry for any upset i caused. i don't want to put anyone off their lifestyle program

good luck to all!!

leni
 
deviated :(

today I deviated :( its funny, i dont even have a reason for why, I wasnt even sad or emotional, or hungry or bored, I just ate some chocolate and I didnt even necessarily feel like it, or enjoy eating it....argh I just hate how addictive chocolate is..especially at the particular time of month im at at the moment. grrr im so disapointed in myself. It was only the other day I had decided after I have finished this diet I will never eat junky food without being around other people, to try and break the habit of secretive eating...but then today I secretley ate...naughty naught naughty

hmmm....im going on holidays to QLD in a week too....and Im really going to try and stay strong, but it would really be nice to go out for tea one night or something, but at the same time i dont know how far it will set me back if i do
 
Pink Sultana - the fact you deviated isn't the worst thing...I can't believe you didn't event ENJOY the chocolate!!! I had the tiniest mouthful of chocolate last week (about the size of the tip of my little finger) and enjoyed every morsel then went off to brush my teeth so I didn't get a taste for it!!!

With your holidays pack your scales and buy yoghurt for breaky, get some crispbreads, buy slices of mozarella cheese and weight out so you know how much is your limit and get celery sticks or similar and if you are eating out have things you know you can have like fish and salad or steak and salad. The more times you DON'T deviate the better - it's one more battle won.
 
Eleni - Welcome back! I was worried we might have scared you off! Glad to hear you are doing better. Can't wait to see that ticker move for you again. Good on you!

BAM - Poor wee little BAM BAM! You're problem is you look too damn HOT right now! I am getting loads of compliments at the moment and it is so tempting to tell myself that this weight will do - everyone else seems to think I look good. But I have to stop myself as I am still overweight I'm just not as huge as what I was before. Instead of being described as fat I might now be chubby!!! You know what I mean? And it has been a long time since anyone has seen me this weight. Just imagine what they'll do when I'm another 10 kilos lighter!!! Remeber the passion you started with? Maybe you should go back and read your first few posts - you really had a zest for it. And you inspired so many to join up and get going - Me included. So we need you!!!
I hope you find that fire in your belly again. You are doing so well. Keep going and don't beat yourself up over food already eaten.

Jewls - I have been meaning to comment on your fall - I really felt for you. It sounds just so painful. I hope you are on the mend soon. I have to say your sense of humour and your approach has been so enlightening! Hope you feel better soon!

MellyP - Congratulations! On the pants, on the win on all the happiness heading your way. I hope it never stops coming! Way to go!

I hope I didn't annoy anyone too much this morning with my big analysis of the program. But if I helped even one person (wildskyz!) than it was worth it I suppose!
The truth is that I really rely on you guys to help me through. I love the comraderie - I know I am talking to people who can genuinely empathise with the daily struggles and also the weekly losses of fat and gains of life!

Good night everyone. Here's to another day and a little closer to the new us!
Nighty Night.
 
Dr Cohen's Holidays

Hi lessfatty,

Yes, Dr Cohen does take holidays and no, no new programs are written while he and Mr Hulot are at the seaside!

When I attended the information session, in early December, we were advised that even if we joined up that evening our programs would not be available until mid January as Dr Cohen had gone on holidays for a couple of weeks.

Also, when I queried the use of garlic in a recipe published in this thread, didn't Jody (hope I'm quoting the right person here) say that she had asked if she could have fresh garlic because of a chest infection, and that Dr Cohen had been consulted before an answer was given?

If you read the Testimonials on the official website, there is reference to Dr Cohen vising Sydney a couple of years ago, and some comments he made at a press conference.

So yes, he does take Annual Leave, but for the longevity of the program one would hope that he has some apprentices in training or the secret of this wonderful program will die with him!

Cheers

Chelsea
 
I also have an to tell you some good news; today I weighed 100.0KG, this also will be the last day of my life that I will weigh 3 figures!!! My work collegue told me today that I need to get some new clothes as my clothes just look oversized for me.



lessfatty

YOU ARE THE GREATEST!

You dance like a butterfly and sting like a bee!

100.00 kilos - take a photo of the scale because YOU WILL NEVER, EVER, WEIGH 100.00 KILOS AGAIN - EVER AGAIN - FOR THE REST OF YOUR LIFE!!!

This is wonderful news, particularly so because of the cultural differences and the lack of support at home.

I hope that Mrs lessfatty is starting to see her handsome husband emerge and is starting to feel proud of you, even if she won't admit to that quite yet!

But you are proud of you, we are proud of you, all us fatties are getting less fatty by the day (except me, 'cos I'm already there!).

Well, done, keep on keeping on, it all matters and this is the last diet you will ever do.

Cheers

Chelsea
 
Hey Lessfatty,

Oh to be 100kg!!!

You must be thrilled! :)

Chelsea, I sure hope garlic is OK, since I eat so much of it!!! :D

I echo your hope that Dr Cohen has some apprentices, or has at least locked the magic formula in a safe somewhere, we'd hate to lose the 12 secret herbs and spices if disaster befalls him.

asy :D
 
hating to Live it

Hi Guys

Hope your week is shaping up well.

Wildsky, Brieziel and Jewls..... we are almost at one month. I rang in the clinic today to see what to do about getting my blood test 3 days earlier and just out of the blue the lady there asked if i had weighed myself.... i said no.... she then just started rambling on..... when i finally got her to repeat what she was saying, she told me that my starting weight was 107.8! that is like 2.8kg heavier than what i thought i was.....

I immediately got off the phone and everything else started to go wrong.... my taxes are due and i hate doing figures.... my bookeper screwed it all up. then my friends started treating me like a second class citizen.... they payed out on me cause i could not be taken anywhere cause i can not eat or drink anything....

work was shi*. everything was going really wrong.

so wrong that i did not sleep for 3 nights.... actually. i would have had about 3 hours sleep each night. Infact, things have not improved a great deal.....

i guess i was traumatised that i had to lose just about half my body weight.... and this compounded by my sheer lonliness through this whole thing coupled by double whamings at work..... i broke.

But the thought of being over 100kg and not being able to have a baby soon killed me..... it scared me and so did the thought of being so unhealthy that i could not even love myself anymore.

so i chose not to deviate.

i tell you, it was 1.00am ltonight. Not asleep, and had no appetitie to eat my thrid meal. I took out the chicken and weighed my veges.... just cooked them, put them on my plate and grabbed a bottle of water.... as i ate it, the tears were streaming down my face.... to the point where my food was wet with salty tears.... but i forced it down my throat....

luckily, my husband came in to see me distressed with a huge plate of tears.... he could have said anything in the world.... i still would not have belived him.

PS- my hubby works night shifts on weekends and late during the week. And he has another job during the day, so i am literally on my very own for hours on end at nights and on weekends.

And you want to know the amazing thing is..... the only thing that kept me from running out in the street naked screaming at the moonlight was this virtual world where i logged in and read posts from people who had come and gone.... people who had had bad days... people who acheived their goals....

And then i read your post less fatty..... and i broke down again....
decided i was not going to make a bad choice. EVER AGAIN
Decided that the next time Christmas comes round, my husband won't be too embarrased to go and get me lingerei. That my mum won't buy me some crappy book about eating healthy. And that every bliming fool that has been cruel to me during these trying times can get theirs back too.

Amazing how quickly you realise who your friends are when you can not be the entertainment. When saturday nights come round and all you can do is go out for a herbal effen tea.

Hard lessons being learnt for me here....
I guess apart from the realisation of just how big and unhealthy i let myself get....

was how lonely i was all the time.

But i guess i don't want to make you all depressed. I have decided that i have been good for 16 days and i deserve to buy myself a set of scales to see how i have gone....

I am going to the shops tomorrow after work. And i will weigh myself. If i have lost weight, i need it re-affirmed so i can stop beating myself up...

and smile

and have the strength

to weigh another mushroom!

Thankyou for keeping living it from running through the street naked. Although, that would have been a liberating experience, so has been writing this post....
 
I'm vegetarian, I'm also the same height as you. I am hoping to lose all my weight within three months.

Hi Louise - Have you just started the program as well? Can I ask what your starting weight and goal weights are if you don't mind? I would love to watch as you go through your journey as well.

I think I am getting my plan tomorrow hopefully, if not Monday and I just can't wait to start. Although, I had a little look at 'the shopping list' and it's going to be tough! I don't eat any meat what so ever (inc. chicken and fish) - although I will eat prawns very occassionally, maybe once every 3-6 months, I don't like plain tofu, and I can't stand plain yoghurt by it self... but I still know I can do it. I eat nearly everything else on the list. Also, does anyone know why we can eat tomatoes but not cherry tomatoes? I am just interested to know....

I really enjoy reading all your posts, watching each other encourage and motivate one another - it's fantastic. I am sure in the weeks to come, I too will be be turning here for a little pick me up now and again. Thanks for your welcoming comments so far!
 
Hi Guys

I rang in the clinic today to see what to do about getting my blood test 3 days earlier and just out of the blue the lady there asked if i had weighed myself.... i said no.... she then just started rambling on..... when i finally got her to repeat what she was saying, she told me that my starting weight was 107.8! that is like 2.8kg heavier than what i thought i was.....

i guess i was traumatised that i had to lose just about half my body weight.... and this compounded by my sheer lonliness through this whole thing coupled by double whamings at work..... i broke.

Thankyou for keeping living it from running through the street naked. Although, that would have been a liberating experience, so has been writing this post....

Hi Living it,
I found that my weight at the clinic is always 1-2 kg higher than at home. At home I weigh first thing in the morning, before water or food. Whereas at the clinic I've eaten and already drunk several glasses of water.....

I also have to lose nearly half my body weight, and it is a daunting task. But things move so quickly on the program, that you'll be there in no time.

and your friends who are paying out on you now, will all be eating salads in 4-6 weeks as they see the weight falling off you! At my work, no-one used to eat salads until I started my program. Now most of the time, people have switched to salads. Several people have started diets, and everyone is really encouraging.. Once they begin to see the results, there will be no more hassling - just amazement (although then you may start getting people saying you are losing too much weight!)
 
Hey Lessfatty,

Oh to be 100kg!!!

You must be thrilled! :)

Chelsea, I sure hope garlic is OK, since I eat so much of it!!! :D

I echo your hope that Dr Cohen has some apprentices, or has at least locked the magic formula in a safe somewhere, we'd hate to lose the 12 secret herbs and spices if disaster befalls him.

asy :D

In a recent newsletter, our clinic said that we were limited to 1 tsp garlic/ ginger per day, cause it can stimulate hunger and show up as a deviation in our blood test. So, it may be worthwhile cutting back a bit!
 
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