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Hi Louise - Have you just started the program as well? Can I ask what your starting weight and goal weights are if you don't mind? I would love to watch as you go through your journey as well.

I think I am getting my plan tomorrow hopefully, if not Monday and I just can't wait to start. Although, I had a little look at 'the shopping list' and it's going to be tough! I don't eat any meat what so ever (inc. chicken and fish) - although I will eat prawns very occassionally, maybe once every 3-6 months, I don't like plain tofu, and I can't stand plain yoghurt by it self... but I still know I can do it. I eat nearly everything else on the list. Also, does anyone know why we can eat tomatoes but not cherry tomatoes? I am just interested to know....

I really enjoy reading all your posts, watching each other encourage and motivate one another - it's fantastic. I am sure in the weeks to come, I too will be be turning here for a little pick me up now and again. Thanks for your welcoming comments so far!

No worries - My start weight was 75.6, current weight is 69.5 and I have been on the program for four weeks. I didn't have as great a result as some of the others but I only have myself to blame with two big deviations early on. Between last Saturday to Wednesday I lost 1.2kg. I need to get to 57-54kgs. I used to have a borderline eating disorder and looked awful at that weight gbut I think your bodyshape really tends to change on this program so I am open minded.

I mash my tufu up with spices and herbsand some balsamic (sometimes some crushed crackers) and cook on the health grill with some veggies - yum!
 
Another couple of kilos down..... yippee! Soon I'll be in the 80's! I haven't been there for close to 7 years!!!!

For those who have been there and done that, should I expect the weight loss to slow down now, or stay consistent. At this stage, I'm losing 0.5 kg every 3 days or so.
 
heavenlylamb I've found losses to be pretty consistent throughout the program. On average I loose about 14kgs every two months or thereabouts, and the smaller you get, the more noticeable every kilo lost is, thats the best part.
 
You folks are pretty self sufficient in here and have the most active thread on the forum.. but looking at the size of this thread... if you want to have this thread closed... and a new thread started and stickied.. please feel free to drop myself or the other moderators a note. and we'll be happy to take care of it...

As you were.. have fun... :D
 
You folks are pretty self sufficient in here and have the most active thread on the forum.. but looking at the size of this thread... if you want to have this thread closed... and a new thread started and stickied.. please feel free to drop myself or the other moderators a note. and we'll be happy to take care of it...

As you were.. have fun... :D

I wish we had our own section...then all the questions could get answered and reciped would be in one spot etc
 
I've put in a request for a new forum-- i'll find out if it can be honored.. but if it can't , you folks don't have to sit in just this topic.. you can spread out into other forums.. and start threads in recipes or wherever you want...

the entire board is available for you to use...
 
Hi Everyone,

Living it - My clinic and I varied greatly on my weight and I always went by my scales. Then disaster. I bought myself a new set of scales halfway through my journey. It was devastating as there was a 4 kilo discrepancy. I couldn't get over it and it threw me out for weeks. My advice to you is........don't dwell on it. A 2 kilo discrepancy is a week's worth of weight. It really isn't worth stumbling over. I wish I'd seen that at the time. Good Luck!

Garlic....... 1 teaspoon allowed on my plan as well. I was told too much can cause hunger pains. (But I love garlic!!) So cruel.

Lessfatty - You hit the nail right smack bang on the head as far as failing once you have hit your goal weight. After I had completed Cohens the first time around I got complacent. I started off really well - no milk in coffee, kept up with my Cohens breaky and lunch. However, I let my water intake drop first....then I started having the odd lattee with milk...then the odd piece of cake.....then I started skipping breakfast..... having carbs twice in a day. All the time I was looking at the scales and they were not moving. Then suddenly but surely they started to rise. No problems...just cut out carbs for 2 days and see the scales drop. Thus began a horrible pattern of going up and down and here I am 7 kilos up from where I finished. I am hoping I have learnt my lesson and it won't cost me a new program.

Saw a drop in weight today, so I am heading in the right direction. Could not get ketostix anywhere yesterday so I have no idea if I am in ketosis yet or not (here's hoping!)

Keep up the good work!

Myshy:D
 
Hi all,

I'm hanging in there but i'm getting a little bored. Still sore but my family is have a time of their life getting back at me for all the pranks i pull. They love to put things just out of my reach then laugh and say "oh whats up, what u got a broken leg or somethin'". Oh well at least my sense of humour wasn't damaged.

Heavenly lamb - congratulations on your progression so far, i know what you are feeling cause i was and i am and have been the weight you are. There is nothing that can describe the feeling of going down to the next block/section/weight range. It took me 4 months to go from 120.6 to 91.1 but on my 17 week I was 89.9 and i screamed. So hang in there girl my prayers are with you it will happen and sometimes the weight loss will slow down and stabilize but as L jay said it is generally constistant.

Lessfatty - I cried for you when i read your post. I know exactly what you are going through as it is a big deal to go from triples to double. Once you are there your mind set changes to let you know this is do-able. You have come so far and just to let you know my hubby is very impressed. He doesn't think guys can do this program (no self control) so good on you. I will be praying for your continued success into double digits Yippie Yippie and Hooray:p ;) :rolleyes: :) :) :) :) there is nothing better than achieving something you set for yourself. I am proud of you and i'm giving you a hug.

Livin it - You sound as sad as i was when I first started but i am here to tell you that you are not alone. Even though we don't physically meet there isn't a day that goes by that i'm not thinking of the people on this program. I have come from where you are and the people that call themself your friend are not, so it might be time to shed them as well. You can do this i know it in my heart and your wont make everyone depressed if you get on and air your thoughts, that is what we are here for, support, encouragement and a kick in the pants if you need it. Please take some encouragement from me that this program is worth doing, it is worth sticking to it. It does take time to get in a routine and set yourself up and the weight won't disappear in the first month (i thought it would) but little by little it goes and you start to change, to feel better, to look at things differently ~ i know casue i have been there and I'm still there but it does get better each day. Give yourself time and reward yourself each week or month for your loss what ever it is~ this reinforces that what you are doing is a good thing, it looks at the positive not on how far you need to go. I myself needed to lose 62kgs (down 31) which was more than half my own body weight. It was daunting at first but if you don't do it now it will still be there tomorrow. So take one day at a time and celebrate your achievements, even the small ones. Oh and make sure you buy pants that fit so you want trip and fall down the stairs. Bless you, we are here for you and you can do this. ~ Jewls

8 -2 much - thanks for your kind words and my glad i still have my sense of humour. I laugh at myself regularly as it helps.

To all drink lots and remember that this program will only take a little bit of your time but it will give you the rest of your life ~ so live it!

Cheers Jewls
 
meeting for a cuppa

Hey I'm bored and this saturday is the third one of the month and some people meet for a cuppa so

if you are in Melbourne come and have a cuppa with me (the one with the broken ankle) cause I'm bored

9.30am at Smoken Joes 305 Maroondah Hwy Ringwood

see you there

Jewls
 
Well its my step daughters wedding tomorrow. We leave tonight to travel there. We did a dress rehearsal last night, with my husband and son in their suits, my daughter in her flower girl dress, and me in my outfit. and I must say, we all looked pretty great!
I was very pleased with how my outfit was fitting.... the jacket and skirt fit very nicely, but the matching top was a bit tight, but I could do it up and it looked OK. So, there was something interesting on TV, and I sat down to watch it, and all of a sudden, my top rolled up my still big fat belly and exposed all my flab................... So, I don't think thats going to work!!!!!!! But I've found another top I can wear under the jacket and it probably goes better with it than the original top!!! and I can wear it tucked in, and its going to hide more than the original top would!
I'm a bit nervous about my shoes..... they are extremely high heels. So, I hope I don't end up with a broken ankle like Jewls..................
So, I'll see you all again on Sunday or Monday!
 
I've made the call. Waiting for a call back and then I'll be signing up for Dr Cohen's.... I have 60kg to lose. Am inspired by the weightloss stories I've heard.
 
Yup yup... i get that from my colleagues when i 1st started the diet... they were going... a personalized diet? that wun work without exercise... juz get ur butt off to exercise... 1 mth later... they were all quite amazed.. and a few other colleagues actually came up to mi asking wat i did to myself.. :D
juz the other day... a colleague mentioned," omg u seem to be getting smaller and smaller, u r gonna to be thinner than mi sooner or later.. :eek: "
LOL

Hi Living it,
Once they begin to see the results, there will be no more hassling - just amazement (although then you may start getting people saying you are losing too much weight!)
 
Living it You hang in there girl, you have come so far!!! you will have great fun moving that ticker when the time comes! well done on not deviating.... i know it can be really hard. - Last week i had one of the most stressed out times ever, work sucked, home sucked, life in general was shit & i was having one of the most emotionally draining times ever and it took all the will power i had left not to have a ciggie or a bourbon! i know if i did i wouldn't be able to stop! and that would be the end of me.
I so want to achieve my goal weight!!
I originally strated at 106.6kg (close to you living it) but i lost 10kg pre Cohen's (through lots of exercise and diet), then put most of it back on till i reached 103kg. I have always been a "Big" girl, but have also always had awesome self esteem....I didn't care how big i got (i was still a goddess damn ya, so treat me like one!), however i was continuely getting bigger... it was starting to affect my relationship and the things i loved to do (Ride & train horses). I made the decision to do Cohens 100%.
I am looking forward to being a hottie, (well a different hottie than i am now!), and can't wait till monday (weigh in & blood test)....
Looking forward to seeing the look on my consultants face!
I still have problems with some of my friends trying to "convert" me to their way of thinking in terms of weight loss.... "Have a shake".... "Do more exercise".... "Use my personal Trainer"... I tell them i will ....LATER... as i have a contract with the Weight Loss company untill Feb, and besides, i've lost 9kg in 3 weeks THANK YOU VERY MUCH!!!!! (why would i jepodise that by drinking one of your yucky shakes??!!!)
He He, have a great day all, Living It, Wildsky & Jewls Let us know how your weigh in goes!
 
Well this morning my weight was 99.6KG, double figures, I actually dont remember when I was this weight before but I guess it was when my wife and I were DINKS and lived in the 1br flat in Mosman in Sydney, so around 12 years ago.

I havent used big colored type yet but just this once.

"Yesterday was the last day of my life that I weighed three figures"

Happy day for me!

Now that I am under 100 there are not much in the way of meaningful mini goals. Between 99.9 and my marriage weight and cohen recommended 90~91KG. But will think of something; maybe 96KG...that would mean one month more (@ 6KG/month) to reach the upper limit of Cohen recommend weight range.

100.00 kilos - take a photo of the scale because YOU WILL NEVER, EVER, WEIGH 100.00 KILOS AGAIN - EVER AGAIN - FOR THE REST OF YOUR LIFE!!!

This is wonderful news, particularly so because of the cultural differences and the lack of support at home.

I hope that Mrs lessfatty is starting to see her handsome husband emerge and is starting to feel proud of you, even if she won't admit to that quite yet!

Opps, Didnt take a photo but when I get home tonight after drinking my water if I did weigh myself I will probably weigh in at 100KG. But I wont; it will be disappointing to see 100kg again! 100KG and me are officially divorced, separated and have inreconcilable differences, 100KG will not be allowed back into my life. 100KG can go find someone else to live with!! :D

Mrs Lessfatty of course isnt saying too much, two days ago we had a period of silence when I refused to eat the kids bit of left over steak for my dinner. "Why dont you eat it ? it is UNDER your allowance so it will be OK if you just eat it with some vegetables", so I said that it is important to eat exactly the correct amounts and then I got "so you expect ME to eat it, and for me to get fat", so I said "NO, just throw it away if you dont want it", followed by "stupid diet" and a japanese phrase used with children that roughly translates to "you should review/reflect upon your stupid behavior" and 2 hours of silence.

10 year old daughter said I am now a little less embarrasing to be around, it is almost acceptable if I come to the school festival but with the following simple rules; I dont talk to anyone and wear a suit, that's progress :).


Garlic: My internet plan document has garlic as an allowed food, I have been including it frequently, plarticularly in stir "fry" ( which is actually more a "dry grill" in a non stick fry pan)

Myshy Sssh. but a little secret this is the first real "diet" plan I have really been on, the other diets where my own doing/making; basically lots of of green leafy vegetables with salad dressing, brown bread and rice, fish most days, infrequent meat. Quite healthy and I lost weight, I must admit I was on average more hungry than I am on Cohen diet. However because I had no strict rules, it was easy to "move the line", I never crossed the line because I always simple redefined where the line was; "Low fat Milk coffee is now OK". I actually have never reached my goal weight ever with a diet, but sometime soon I will.

AsyOZ As night follows day you will also feel like me today when I got under 100KG. Your lost so far is awsome, and at your rate of loss we will both cross the line together.


Living IT I am wondering what your husband thought when he came home at 1am and found the lady he loves, crying into a plate of chicken and vegetables? "does it taste that bad? maybe a little chilli or black pepper will help?" It appears to me that a womans internal world is so much fuller with emotionals and human complexites that men just cannot grasp the full picture. Whilst I have no idea about the problem(s) that presently prevent you having a baby; getting bit healthier each day and having hubby at home and not to tired from work will certainly be two key areas to work on. And as a man I have to tell you "relax and dont worry so much"...which of course is what all men say to no effect.

I found it very humorous your descriptions about your frustrations; I could imagine someone in their bed hearing something at 2am in the morning, they stick their head out the window and say: "Ruth, there's a naked fat woman running down the street cursing at the moon! should I call the police?" for which Ruth's reply is "Harrold come back to bed, leave her alone she is probably on a diet and had a bad day with her taxes".
 
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Living it....I think we can relate to sitting at our meal crying at one point or another. It's a defining moment when we know there is "yummy' food in the cupboard and we choose to eat what is on our plan.You made the right choice!

I find on the days I am down....I 'treat' myself to a strong coffee, glass of caffiene free diet coke and a mango. Some nights I even eat all 5 pieces of chewing gum. It's a sugar hit and leaves you with a full tummy. Comfort food Cohens style.

There have many nights were I have sat in tears of frustration because I have too much dinner to eat. I am probably a little rarer than most people on the diet because I find the amounts of food we have to eat massive. Some days I am literally the only one sitting at the table with my kids walking past saying "mum you have to eat it all' or "I'm not leaving until you eat it all". Refeed needless to say was a nightmare.

LOL@ lessfatty's kids- My kids had similiar rules....but hey I've never been one to follow the rules!:eek: My kids have tried the 'don't talk to anyone', 'park down the street', 'omg my friends are coming over can you all stay in the lounge room'.....don't ya love them!

Re: Garlic...I took another look through my plan. In my plan no fresh garlic is allowed (that includes minced garlic and ginger) and I am allowed only 1 teaspoon of 'condiments' i.e garlic powder. I wonder why our plans differ? Maybe it's because mine is an older plan?

Anyway...I just wanted to post that I survived a "lawyers lunch" which means there was lots of booze (and the good stuff too!) and lots of lovely food that nobody on a diet should ever be faced with. I drank water and snuck back home to eat my chicken and asparagus soup.

I spotted the dress I want to wear to this wedding I have to go to in November. I wasn't game to buy it just yet. Hope it is still there in a week!

mysh
 
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where did you all get your weightloss picture things from? I would like to get one to keep a track of each and every one of the 60kg's I"m a bout to lose :)
 
I recently met up with my friends whom i have not seen for months since I have start this program... and well.. comments were very good and pleasing to the ear.. but they will always have a statement in their comments that is "this weight is enough do not slim down any further" well... this is even the same for my mother who keeps asking me to stop when i have reached 6 months.. I did not tell her but i want to reach my target weight... which is 59kg.. I do not want to think negatively of their comments.. but i would choose to think that they are just worried for me.. :cool: do any of you have the same issue??
 
Stabilisation (errr...Refeed) & Other Matters

For those who have done the refeeding plan I have a question, was the individualize meals that the refeeding was based on much different from the individual eating plan amounts you used during the diet?

I am not talking about the refeeding plan itself, I have the document in which you can add certain amounts (grams) of food each day and introduce bad and forbidden foods slow record your weight. I mean when you got your individualized refeeding meals "base" food amounts/meals was it different to what you had been prescribed during the diet?

eg. 125grams chicken 115grams vegetable etc.

lessfatty - First of all...CONGRATULATIONS!!! You must be feeling fantastic! And so you should be! I know that when I got down to double figures, I was walking on air for weeks. well done! Now your question regarding the refeeding program. My refeed program went for 17 days (this is different for everyone) and you get the individual additional allowances for each day of refeed in a table. So on day 1, I had to add 30g of 'old protein' and 40g of 'old vegetables'. These amounts are to be added to your original plans' meal allowances, but spread out over the whole day. So, for example, you could choose to split the extra protein and/or vegetables between lunch and dinner, or you can opt to add it all to one of these meals. I was inclined to spilt it. The 'base' food amounts you enter on the spreadsheet (I assume that is what you have) are taken directly from your original plan. Does that answer your question?

GARLIC - just to make this clear: fresh garlic (and ginger) was NOT in my list of allowed vegetables in my plan. I emailed my consultant about eating fresh garlic (and ginger) when I was sick with the flu. She gave me the all-clear, but said that the 'limited amount' rule still applied. Limitted, Smittited :rolleyes: ! I ate heaps of it AND I kept on eating it after I got over the flu - it just has soooooooooo much more flavour than the dried stuff! I have no idea if she contacted Dr Cohen or if she just decided (off her own bat) that it wouldn't do me any harm...Either way, it didn't! I have sucessfully completed the program - garlic, ginger and all! By the way...as for it 'showing up' as a deviation in our blood test...I still don't get this :confused: ! What results do you get from your tests? I never recieved any feedback on my blood test results the whole time I was on the program!

~BAM~ - Come on girl! You can do this! Just take it one meal at a time...I have complete confidence in you! :)

Jewls - So glad to hear that your ankle is feeling a little better. Your post about the things your family members do made me laugh...so thank you!

living it & heavenlylamb Regarding having to loose half your body weight...I had to loose almost half mine. My starting weight was almost 120kg and I am down to 64kg! And it only took me 8 months!!! You can both do this...it is entirely possible! These days, I am baffled as to how I managed to carry around all that extra weight with me all the time...I have trouble picking up my dog (yet alone carrying him anywhere), and he only weighs 40kg!

As for me...Life after refeed is both liberating and terrifying! Having made the decision to only weigh once a month whilst on the program, I now weigh myself twice a day...once in the morning and once at night, before I go to bed. I am so scared that I will undo all the hard work I put in to make it to where I am now. I am pleased to say though, that my weight is currently holding steady. I am very conscious of what food passes by my lips these days, but it is nice to know that I can have something naughty if I choose to...the trick is not to have too much naughty stuff. I liked being on the program because there were clear lines that I refused to cross (with the exception of the limited amounts of garlic, of course :D ). Now that there are no 'lines', I am constantly debating with myself as to whether or not I should eat this or that. Anyway...it is all good for the time being!
 
I found it very humorous your descriptions about your frustrations; I could imagine someone in their bed hearing something at 2am in the morning, they stick their head out the window and say: "Ruth, there's a naked fat woman running down the street cursing at the moon! should I call the police?" for which Ruth's reply is "Harrold come back to bed, leave her alone she is probably on a diet and had a bad day with her taxes".

HILARIOUS!!!:D :D
 
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