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hello Everyone!

Have been incredibly busy and have just caught up on all the posts! Now I don't have time to write!! Ha ha! So tomorrow I will update!

Loving every minute of Cohen's!
Momma Pajama:D
 
wow

Hi everyone,

Well i'M BACK and i survived camp, staying 100% on cohens while being away was difficult but achievable. I'm still very tired but it was an awesome camp and the kids were all great, no major dramas. Wow there are lots and lots of newbies - big hiddie ho to you all.

Lizzie - i'm impressed you should become a consultant as you would just know about everything a person experiences on this program. Well congratulations on getting to the end devation free, if give others the hope they need to get on with it. Best wiahes to you in your cool stuning body.
Less of me - You are still my inspiration and you look amazing. Enjoy your new life and your daughter on that wonderful beach and thanks for sharing your pictures with all of us here. Way to go girl:) :) :) :) :)

Netski - i know how you feel as i was like that after i finished uni but you are a strong woman and i know you will succeed at everything you do, just give it time to sink in.

Well just a word of encouragement to everyone out there, this program works and works well it just needs a bit of time and self disipline but if you sit back and just think about who you put first, second ect you will discover that self will be last or somewhere near the bottom. My encouragement to you is just to be selfish for a while, if someone is eating something that is driving you nuts just ask them (politely) if they can go without for a while or do it else where. If certain food smells are driving you crazy just put your nose near it and inhale 3 times, the cravings stop and your strength can then win over the chemical war that is taking place in your head, telling you that you want it so badly but is it really worth it.

I'm in my 14th week and i feel great, i have dropped 4 dress sizes and 27kilos. I can't believe the results myself but i found a photo that was taken this time last year and wow i don't even recognise myself.

Cheers to everyone stay strong, stay happy and get health.

cheers
jewls:cool: :p :)
 
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TO ALL LADIES IN MELBOURNE

WE ARE MEETING AGAIN THIS SATURDAY 9:30AM
AT SMOKEN JOES
305 MAROONDAH HWY,
RINGWOOD

I HOPE TO SEE YOU THERE

CHEERS JEWLS:) :) :)
 
Hello Jewls

That sounds like a great idea!

I am in Maintenance but would love to call by for a 'long black' if that's OK.

My Accountant signed up with Geelong this week, and two other friends are also starting the program.

I am still driving people crazy, talking about Cohen's, but the program has been such a miracle in my life that I feel compelled to share. I am happier than I have been in years and know that I have done myself the biggest favour by losing that extra 30% of me that was surplus to requirements.

Looking forward to meeting up with other Cohenites on Saturday!

Regards

Chelsea

PS I can't seem to figure out how to install a ticker. Yes, I know I'm done, but it would be nice to have the visual to prove the point! I feel quite ticker deprived!!
 
Hi my name is Georgie,

Hopefully I will be starting Cohens next week.I had my first blood test done today and sent the paperwork off in the mail. Now it is a waiting game to see if I will be accepted.

I have become a forum freak, reading all your posts, you are all so inspirational.

Just a question I have how do you insert the tickers etc.?

I am looking forward to hearing from you all soon.

Cheers and have a good day.

Georgie
 
Yeah!

Wow, talk about fast! I got my program this evening - I figured that it would be first of next week before I heard back from them since I just did my blood work on Monday. It is already past my bed time so I'll have to go in the a.m. to start my shopping. I've read over everything though and excited because it definitely looks like I can handle it. Now I'm off to bed but imagine different meal ideas will be dancing through my head all night.

Donna
 
Losing My Mojo..

Hey Guys,

I havent been on in a while nor have i changed my ticker because im too god damn scared to get on the scales..

I dont think my weight has changed in a while.. and i think that xmas will not be my finishing point at the rate im going.

I stuffed up last night :(

I had a peice of my mum's cassarole pie, however.. 1 hr later it made me sick.. so down the toilet it went. :(

Now im terrified that ive stuffed up a week's worth of effort.. Im so scared.

My mojo for Cohen's is deteriating.. (spell?)

Now im scared that i wont be finished in time for xmas.. I do know what it is though.. its me being comfortable with myself now (the weight i am at the moment) and im just finding it hard.. :(

Sorry to put a dampner on the forum, but i have no where else to talk!

Ill be cool though, after all i just bought some gorgeous Calvin Klein Jeans in a size 12.. and i am GOING to fit into them!!! :D

Keep up the great work everyone, do NOT deviate its so not worth it.

~BAM~
 
Oh BAM, Hang in there... You've been doing so well!!! i know what you mean about "Comfort weight" i've been told my ideal is 57-60kg i'd be perfectly happy and Darn sexy at 74kg (i know when i get there it will be really hard to keep going and loose the rest!)
i've been reading this thread for a little while now and you guys have inspired me to take the jump and go Cohens, i had my tests done 2 days ago and start the program - hopefully monday.
You CAN DO IT bam!!!!
 
Glad to know that you are coming

Hey Chelsea it will be great to have you there. Only a few girls come but the ones who do get a lot out of it. I think it is amazing to meet people who are or have done what you are doing. I also wanted to say to you 'good on you girl for doing, surviving and spreading your cohens success story', I didn't think I would tell anyone but I have told everyone including strangers because it is such a great program.

Looking forward to meeting you Chelsea on Saturday.

To get the ticker happening go to user cp
then click on edit signature. In a new window go to the tickerfactory to create your weightloss ticker
then copy all the bb code (it is in the first box) and paste it in your signature box
press preview to see if it has worked

Hope this helps

Cheers Jewls:)
 
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Go BAM Go!

Good evening everyone,

How are you all? Poor wee BAM BAM! You'll be right lovie. Hang in there. I know what you mean about being comfortable as well - but if we feel this good now how are we going to feel in a couple of months time? Words will not be able to describe it. It seems a common concern most people have. I wish I had a magic spell to make you feel better and get that motivation happening again. We all make little mistakes. Be kind to yourself. Your positive behaviour and determination far outshine the one little mishap. Are you really going to let that beat you? NO WAY! Go girl!:)

I have another issue I would like all of you Cohen experts to assist me with...
Of late I have found that I am having trouble with the 5 hour rule and before 9pm rule. I understand that it is quite crucial to the success of the program. However, I have been caught out at night time - in traffic or stuck without my own transport to get home in time for dinner. Do I still eat dinner at 9 - 9.30 at night and go straight to bed - which I believe is a no no - or do I skip that meal? I have also found that when I have been out I have been forced to double up on a meal option - like two cheese meals or two egg etc in then one day. This hasn't happened often but is it better to eat than not eat? Advise would be most welcome.

Brieziel - Donnasv - GB59 Good luck with your journey. You'll be fine. Have fun watching yourself disappear physically and blossom mentally!

Lizzi - WOW!:D You are amazing. Congratulations on such a wonderful effort. And thank you for your continual inspiration. I'm sure I speak for all of us when I say we hang on your every word regarding refeed and life after Cohen's.

Netski - How are you? Hope everything is going well for you. Thank you for keeping us posted. And I sincerely hope the anxiety has lifted. You now have a new life to embark on. Good for you.:)

Jody - It actually looks as though it is an entirely different person in your before photos!:eek: How amazing. Thanks for being an inspiration. Funny thing is I can't find any photos of me at my heaviest as I avoided the camera like the plague! But the compliments are coming in and that keeps me going.;)

Chelsea and Lessfatty - you are both so full of knowledge. You help so many of us in so many ways. Thank you. Very wise the two of you!:cool:

Hope everyone has had a good day.
 
Oh, I had a Dr's appointment today and I had to get weighed....Ticker update for me! A little premature but it feels great doesn't it!!!

Another 3 kilos bites the dust! Yee-Ha!



 
Can anyone tell me any stories about when they deviated, what they did and what happened?

Thank you
Louise

In my only "major" deviation, in week 2~3 of the diet I had a gallbladder attack (very painfull), I drank 1/2 a cup of olive oil and lemon juice, plus I ate some oiler fish (fresh sardines, salmon). I only lost 0.5kg that week (rather than average of 1.5~1.6KG/week).

I do deviate very mildly almost every week, since sometimes I need to visit restaurants whilst traveling or just being out of the house all day etc, but when I do I always do my best to eat Cohen only foods, since just I cannot weigh my food and guess. Naughty me; but I have a 1/3 teaspoon of soy sauce every so often when I eat fresh tuna (sashimi) and some wasabi (Japanese green "mustard").


So far my deviations have never included any carb's (starches) or alcohol.

I am not sure if my minor deviations cost me weight loss, however for me I just need to be pragmatic about my work and family. I cannot say to work, well I am not doing anything that takes me away from home for more than 1 meal is a little dogmatic. Or to say to my wife and kids "we are not going anywhere for 5 months as I want to stay home 110% true to the program!", is just asking for trouble.

I am just very very happy with progress so far, I accept my 1.5~1.6KG a week average loss with the current level of "pragmatic" deviations.
 
Bam-never Give Up!!

BAM, I rem the times when I am not losing any weight over the week(now i am also not losing after a week plus)... but I have this thinking in me... I need to get over this and get into my ideal weight... Keep telling yourself that you need to continue to get through this and than all will be well.. you can eat what you like(not overdoing it) and you will be pretty and sexy.......... you are not far away from that mark... :p
 
I have another issue I would like all of you Cohen experts to assist me with...
Of late I have found that I am having trouble with the 5 hour rule and before 9pm rule. I understand that it is quite crucial to the success of the program. However, I have been caught out at night time - in traffic or stuck without my own transport to get home in time for dinner. Do I still eat dinner at 9 - 9.30 at night and go straight to bed - which I believe is a no no - or do I skip that meal? I have also found that when I have been out I have been forced to double up on a meal option - like two cheese meals or two egg etc in then one day. This hasn't happened often but is it better to eat than not eat? Advise would be most welcome.


These lesser of two evils questions are always tough and I can very much relate to the problems. I am sure if I asked my consultant they would say "dont do it!", but since I and most poeple live in the real world here is my opinion and practice.

"Late meal or no meal ?": I really do feel that it is better to eat late than skip totally a meal. I think it is just more important to keep the amount of protein you consume each day approximately the same as it is more important for the diet to work. What does 9pm mean? some go to bed at 10pm and others go to bed at 2am. Do you need to go to bed immediately or can you stay awake for a couple of hours after the meal?. However I would not eat carbs like the optional crackers or fruit particular for a late meal before bed.

"Totally missing a meal or eating out ?": I face this challenge frequently, I personally decided that I would eat out rather than total miss a meal. For example if I am out of the house with my family for the full day and cannot take a meal with me, I would eat lunch or dinner at a restaurant. In these cases I just chose Cohen (or closest match) foods and eat my best estimates of the correct portions.

"Same meal type twice in one day?": On balance, the lesser of two evils I think it is better to double up on meal types than miss out completely.

I would be interested in what Cohen consultants say.
 
Hey Guys,

I havent been on in a while nor have i changed my ticker because im too god damn scared to get on the scales..

I dont think my weight has changed in a while.. and i think that xmas will not be my finishing point at the rate im going.
~BAM~

Hi BAM,
If I were you, I would weigh myself tomorrow morning, before eating and drinking. Because you may be panicing over nothing. If you get on the scales and you really have lost nothing, then you can think about whether there is anything that is stopping you from losing weight. But at the moment, you're worried about something which may not even be true!

Will it be a disaster if Christmas is not your finishing point? You will be much smaller by then, but it isn't a problem if you have to go into January. You can certainly have the day off for Christmas, and then do what you need to do to finish the race!

I suffered from depression for many years, and one of the skills I learned to get me out of that time was "cognitive behaviour therapy", where you understand that the way that you think dictates your emotional response.....
So, this is what I see you saying to yourself.............
"I'm not losing any weight, I'm just stuck, I'm not going to be finished by Christmas, I may as well give up now."
I think you need to actively replace those thoughts with constructive ones...
"I'm getting control over my eating habits. I can't control what the scales say, only what I put into my mouth. I will work hard to finish this part of the program as soon as possible, but I'm committed to eating heathily for the rest of my life etc etc"... because your emotions are controlled by the thoughts that are going around in your head!

Take some time to think about what you are thinking and write them down... and then see whether they are reasonable thoughts or not, and try to write some replacement thoughts, which you can say during the day when the other thoughts overtake you.
 
Can anyone tell me any stories about when they deviated, what they did and what happened?

Thank you
Louise

Mmm, are you wanting some tips on how to deviate successfully!!

I can put my hand up as a chronic deviater, but at this stage, its not having a major impact on my weight loss.

Like lessfatty, I regularly eat out at restaurants and cafe, mainly for business lunches/ dinners which involve not being able to measure foods and often eating non-approved vegetables. But I always choose the option closest to the programs requirements. Generally either seafood and veges or steak and veges. Or for lunch a salad with chicken/ fetta cheese.

Unlike lessfatty, I have consumed carbs on occassions. I find if I'm going out a lot, or around very yummy food for several days in a row, I get to the point where i think it is safer for me to eat a small amount of non-allowed food, than to get so strung out that I eat a whole cake, or tub of icecream!

My rules for major deviation (ie sweets/ carb deviation) are that I cannot do it regularly - ie less than once a week.
I really think about whether the food is worth deviating over.... ie it has to be exactly what I'm craving for and taste fantastic - If I'm craving a Magnum icecream, I won't compromise to a Paddlepop which wouldn't satisfy the craving. This has actually been a great way to delay deviating..... do I really want this? WIll it taste as good as I want it to? etc.
Generally I try to just have a taste, rather than a full serving. Sometimes just a dob of icecream or a tiny scrape of chocolate is enough to give you the taste without eating a whole bar.
and if I'm eating a full serving, then I stop when I feel satisfied. (i have actually found I can't tolerate a full serving of food that I used to eat regularly)

and I don't panic over deviations. I figure it may take one or two more weeks to lose the weight I need to, but in the meantime I'm learning a lot about which foods actually don't taste that great and don't make me feel that great.

But probably if my weight loss stopped, I would have to change my attitude towards deviating!! I imagine as my weight gets lower, I will need to become stricter with the number of times I deviate. But for now, it makes the diet liveable.
 
Encouragement

Greetings Coehites!:p
I am onto my 4th day today on the program and I struggled a little, I had a work conference all day with a sit down lunch served, I took my own lunch and got some very mixed reactions. Some were great and supportive and some thought I was stupid for passing up a free lunch and had a few under the breath sniggers about it. I just ignored it and carried on my own little way! But it does get to you if you let it. I just kept telling myself "there's no such thing as a free lunch!" I got home this afternoon and checked my email. One of my best friends sent me some amazing motivational quotes!! Talk about timing! It was exactly what I needed. I will share them with you throughout my journey and hopefully they may help some of you, if your having a tough day.
This one is a ripper!! Read and Believe. :) :)

Discouragement
"If you've invested enough effort and energy to get discouraged, you're well on your way to success. Discouragement is a certain weigh station on the road to any worthwhile achievement.
If you know and care enough to be discouraged, you've made considerable progress. Learn what the discouragement has to teach you and then continue moving forward. It may seem as though you'll never make it, but in reality you're already there. Discouragement tempers and hardens you; it does not stop you.
Reflect on your discouragement and you'll discover that it is a result of your commitment. You've already invested your time, your effort, your life. Soon, you'll reap the full reward of that investment. Let discouragement spur you on.
Motivation is born of desire. The stronger the desire for something, the stronger the motivation.
Endeaver to keep the promises we make to ourselves... We deserve to be treated with the same love and respect that we would give to others....."



Don’t listen to the negative people in your life - surround yourself with positive people who believe in you and inspire you.
 
Another motivational quote

Melly P that was great. Here is another one for everyone

Success

If you think you are beaten, you are,
if you think you dare not, you don't
If you like to win but think you can't,
it's almost certain you won't.

If you think you'll lose, you've lost,
for out in the world we find
success begfins with a person's will
it's all in the state of mind.

Life's battles don't always go
to the strongest or the fastest
sooner or later those who win
are those who think they can.

These words are so true and we can all do this!!! Little battles and struggles along the way will win the war..... Have a good night everyone.:D
 
Neenish Tarts and Other Matters

G’Day every body

8-2 much,

My work involves lots of interviews, often at people’s homes in the evening. It’s too early to eat before I go, and it has always been my habit to eat when I get back home.

While I was on the program I would stretch the gap between breakfast and lunch out a bit longer, eat my usual apple and crispbread about mid way between the two meals, and have a late lunch.

I would take two of the crispbread and the bottle of water with me so that if, for example, I had a 7pm appointment, I could eat the crispbread and have a drink at about 6.30 – 6.45pm. Sometimes I took four crispbread, which meant I could eat the second pair on the way home – provided that the necessary 2 & half hours between crispbreads had effluxed.

Then, when I got home, I would have one of the quick savoury cheese grills or a tuna salad or (if I was cunning) the casserole which I had prepared and put in the oven before going out.

Do not miss having the three meals in each day. I made sure that I ate all the food every day. Last thing at night I eat an orange no matter what time it is – by the time I potter about, clean my teeth, read for a bit etc, I’m sure my body can cope with a bit of food in the stomach.

The reason for the ‘not after 9pm’ rule is simply that HGH works most effectively when blood sugar is low, and blood sugar is lowest two hours after a meal. Ergo, don’t eat later than 9pm, be in bed by about 11pm, actually asleep and in the right brain wave pattern for the midnight – 2am HGH release.

In a perfect world that’s what we would all do – wear blue uniforms and ‘Lights Out’ by 11pm! But it isn’t and we don’t – for example, I was still up and faxing documents at 4am this morning, the alarm went off at 7.30am and the new day started.

Remember, this program is Clever with a Capital “C”. Yep, “C” for “Clever Cohen”!!!

Any of the ‘rules’ are there just to maximise the effectiveness of the program for us!

We obviously have to work with what we’ve got, but there are ways of doing what we can when we can.

There is a lot of difference between having a steak and salad when we’re out to eating bags of Smarties and Nutella off the spoon, and pretending it doesn’t matter.

I think Jewls is right about smelling the food. I noticed a really heightened sense of smell – I could smell food very keenly, especially the family meals (my husband does all the shopping and all the cooking). I would go over to them and sit at the table during the meal, really enjoying the fragrance of their food, asking them about it, watching them eat and actually having the time to talk to them instead of being occupied eating my own dinner. I would have a glass of soda water and always participate in the social activity of the meal.

One afternoon there was a bag of Neenish tarts on the kitchen bench. I was really fidgety, couldn’t figure out what was wrong, but I could smell the tarts. I went over, smelled them deeply, then wrapped them up tightly and put them in the pantry. After that I was calm again. No drama.

When I first started on the program I was often asked ‘are you allowed this, are you allowed that?’ my reply: ‘I am allowed anything, but right now I choose to not eat that – yet!’

Remember, at the bottom of the Shopping List are the words ‘IF IT’S NOT ON THE LIST YOU CAN’T HAVE IT –YET’.

‘Yet’ is such a powerful word. Yes, of course you can have whatever you like, but not yet. Wait a bit, not long (yes, OK, Lizzie – 65 weeks is a bit longer than ‘not long’), but at the end of this there is the land of milk and honey - if you can still remember what milk and honey tastes like and if you still want it when you get there!

As Heavenlylamb commented, sometimes a lick is enough. Giving yourself permission, finding some real and direct sensory way – small, taste – of satisfying your curiosity without having to put the darn stuff on your ribs / hips / stomach will do the trick.


This week I have noticed how my gait has changed. Well, I noticed this about two thirds of the way down, but have been thinking about the hip joints this week.

When I was obese, obviously my legs walked a certain line (bit like John Wayne at the OK Corral, perhaps?), which must have put pressure on the ball-and-socket hip joints. Now, my legs walk much closer together – in fact, my knees knock sometimes – and the hip joints are revolving the way they were designed to.

Think about your gait. If you could see your pelvis, are your legs working with your hip joints or forcing them to function in a very splayed and distorted action?

So next time some unthinking person leaves the Neenish tarts on the bench, or you are running late and very tempted to skip a meal, remember what we are doing this for.

We are doing this to reach an ‘ideal’ weight. Not just a weight from a chart, but our own, true, ‘ideal’ weight. A weight at which our bodies will function in an optimal way. Alert, happy, slim, with healthy knees and hips and a skeleton which can carry the rest of us comfortably and easily without a care in the world.

This program will give us every chance to achieve that optimal state. OK, slim people do get sick, do get dodgy knees, do need hip replacements, but nowhere near as often or as drastically as obese people do.

As lessfatty’s ticker says – well, used to say when he had the dancing pig – ‘Nothing Feels As Good As Being Thin Feels’. Believe me, my deviations were basically licking up a spoonful of sherry in the early days and feeling as guilty as a thief about it, and three dinners which really weren’t world standard meals but I ate them to be sociable. Other than that, I weighed to the gram even if that meant putting half a slice of cucumber back in the fridge!

I am not doing this twice. I wanted the job done, done well, done quickly, and that’s it. I have never – and I do mean, never – felt so completely well, so comfortable in my skin, and just so darn pleased with myself as I do now.

Hang in there fellow Cohenites. Believe me, Nothing Feels As Good As Being Thin Feels!

Keep going!

Chelsea

PS Thanks Jewls for the nod on installing the ticker! Even though I completed on 24th June it is still such a buzz. 30% of my body weight gone! Twelve years to stack on, 20 weeks to gently melt away. I shall wear my skinny jeans with stiletto heels on Saturday - I have never worn such racy clothes before but gee! it's fun to wear them now!!
 
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