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I should make it clear that I am not complaining that I am not losing weight...I understand very well that 1kg a week is normal... I am just wondering why am I stopping at the weight of 79-80kg... I should say its more of a "questioning myself post" and at the same time hoping that some ppl will give me some idea... Thanks Chelsea for the suggestion.... I will try various ways and hope that I will be losing more than now... Perhaps I am anxious on losing more weight... :eek: Hope all will bear with me...

Hi Babyegg,
I don't know if its psychological, but I have always found it hard to lose weight when I'm around the 0's - it took me probably 2-3 weeks to clear 110kg, and the same to clear 100kg. When I've lost weight before, i've found the same thing - the slowest weight loss is when I'm trying to clear a zero number! I can fly down to the 0 and then I get stuck... its like my body doesn't want to let go and go down into the next stage!
Pen
 
Lizz
you would make a excellent consultant. oh pineapple boy i would love some. 65 weeks with no deviating you are a legend can i please please please see a before and after photo and please keep posting when you finish
 
Heavenlylamb

I think that's the point... there are some point in time where my body just would not continue to loss weight in the same speed as before... Maybe I have just reach that point... that stubborn fats in my body are just reluctant to break down and get burnt... :p in any case.. I am still sticking to the meal faithfully and hopefully it will break all the fats and burn them... I am still going strong on my food.. no thoughts of deviation yet.. although i envy ppl who can eat all my favourite food.. but my weight loss will be long term!!! That's what I am looking towards!!!:D
 
Lizzi



Well done on reaching your re-feed, it looks like you have had a very long and successful journey and you are having a great time with the refeed.
I'm just curious, if you don't mind me asking, how much weight have you lost? your tickers appear to say two different things. Have a nice day with all those normal amounts of food and weel done again!

xx
 
I should make it clear that I am not complaining that I am not losing weight...I understand very well that 1kg a week is normal... I am just wondering why am I stopping at the weight of 79-80kg... I should say its more of a "questioning myself post" and at the same time hoping that some ppl will give me some idea... Thanks Chelsea for the suggestion.... I will try various ways and hope that I will be losing more than now... Perhaps I am anxious on losing more weight... :eek: Hope all will bear with me...

For me as I am approaching the 105KG , the "failure" point of 2 previous diets, it seems very slow going, maybe I am getting excited and feel time slowed down "a watched kettle never boils". Concurrently this week physically however I am getting really hungry and feeling tired most days, today brings a headache. It is like my body is resisting the change! sort of like, OK you lost some weight but 105KG is the limit, time to starting eating again to get back to "normal"!

Maybe I am now metabolising "old" fat that I put on over 10 years ago that has beeing holding lots of "toxins". For those who have been fat over years or decades, many chemicals such a pesticides (DDT), PCB's that we may have consumed with our foods over the years have to attached to fat/oil ( lipophilic) in our bodies. These even in small amouts being liberated when we metabolise fatty tissues can make us feel sick. This is one of the reason why we need to drink lots of water, to help to flush out some of this stuff.

Anyway these limits from my opinion do seem to be partly psychological and partly physical.
 
Hi Babyegg,
I don't know if its psychological, but I have always found it hard to lose weight when I'm around the 0's - it took me probably 2-3 weeks to clear 110kg, and the same to clear 100kg. When I've lost weight before, i've found the same thing - the slowest weight loss is when I'm trying to clear a zero number! I can fly down to the 0 and then I get stuck... its like my body doesn't want to let go and go down into the next stage!
Pen

I couldn't agree more with you. I tried so hard and I have been hovering at 69.4- 69.8 for 2 weeks. I am so depressed and tried not to weigh myself for a while. I try to reduce my cracker intake but resulted in very low blood sugar. Fainting spell and dizziness when I get up from bed and sitting position. Have anyone out there share the same symptom of dizziness? Very frustrated....:mad:
 
You guys rock!

Hello everyone, yet another newby here.
I just wanted to take the oppurtunity to say thank you to you all! This is an amazing forum, with so many people with great tips and stories to keep up motivation. I started the program just over 3 weeks ago, but have been logging in almost every day for the last 6 weeks. I think this place may have become my junk food replacement.
I have been finding the program not too hard but with the occasional "I really want to eat something bad" moment that takes every little bit of willpower to ignore. Sugarfree gum has become my saviour!
I have my first weigh in on Monday, which I am both looking forward to and am terrified of. I am desperate to see some good results!

Anyway, thanks again everyone and keep up the great work!
 
I would just like to say that I am really f#@%ing hungry today! I have been 100% cohens for 5 days now (except for the accidental extra piece of fruit the other day) and have resisted even saurkraut (my favourite thing in the world) at the family dinner and this morning my housemate is eating french toast- I'm still super motivated but this is the first time I have felt physically ill from hunger- I don't know what to do! lunch is an hour away... I hope the results are worth it! (sorry to whinge but I can't really whinge anywhere else!) did anyone else feel really hungry still after the first five days? I wish my body would just start eating its own fat already!

PS Welcome tjay and anyone else I overlooked, I am excited to be going on this journey with you guys!
 
I would just like to say that I am really f#@%ing hungry today! I have been 100% cohens for 5 days now (except for the accidental extra piece of fruit the other day) and have resisted even saurkraut (my favourite thing in the world) at the family dinner and this morning my housemate is eating french toast- I'm still super motivated but this is the first time I have felt physically ill from hunger- I don't know what to do! lunch is an hour away... I hope the results are worth it! (sorry to whinge but I can't really whinge anywhere else!) did anyone else feel really hungry still after the first five days? I wish my body would just start eating its own fat already!


I must admit in comparison to others I do feel hungry most days, however rarely it it at the level of starving hungry (well except for a hour before some evening meals).

My question do you feel like your stomach is empty with "satiety" (the feeling of full, enough to eat) at zero even 30~40 minutes after meals? or do you feel all-over-body hungry and weakness (eg. not enough metabolism of blood sugars and ketones)? (or both :eek: )

For any diet to work in the long run we cannot feel starving hungry all day every day for very long. Starving will resulting in breaking until our commitment to any diet, no matter how motivated and commited we are at the start. It one thing that you feel temptation to eat a yummy pizza, but since you are not feeling that hungry you say no. It is another level to starving hungry for days/weeks and then have someone eat a pizza in front of you and then offer you the leftovers !!!! Its like those TV crews cooking bacon and eggs breakfast just outside the gates of the starving refuge camp in Africa.

The meals I feal most full after are:
a) Yogurt mixed with 1 apple topped with crackers
b) Grilled steak (rare) with a salad of green baby spinach leaves with a few other green vegetables, with crackers and a small mango.

The diet plan I was given say that some feel hungry with apples and too much B6 vitamin in the multivitamins also may stimulate hunger. As a last resort try a small deviaiton and have around 20~30% more of the protein (meat) food of a meal and see if that helps just once (not a good thing, but better than falling of the wagon and eating a packet of tim tams or a long visit to pizza hut). However I honestly think just stick with it for the full week, do you have a visit to the clinic/consultant planed at the end of the week?
 
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I would just like to say that I am really f#@%ing hungry today! I have been 100% cohens for 5 days now (except for the accidental extra piece of fruit the other day) and have resisted even saurkraut (my favourite thing in the world) at the family dinner and this morning my housemate is eating french toast- I'm still super motivated but this is the first time I have felt physically ill from hunger- I don't know what to do! lunch is an hour away... I hope the results are worth it! (sorry to whinge but I can't really whinge anywhere else!) did anyone else feel really hungry still after the first five days? I wish my body would just start eating its own fat already!

PS Welcome tjay and anyone else I overlooked, I am excited to be going on this journey with you guys!

Hi Mermaid

I still get hungry occasionally as well but I'm think my hunger is more psychological than physiological!! There are a few things I do to get over it:

* drink a big glass of water (can be hard, i know)
* have a cup of coffee (I save my coffee allowances up for these occurances)
* get on the internet and mess about!

If it is something sweet that I'm thinking I want, then I'll have an allowable coke zero - again I save up the soft drink allowances for these circumstances)

In one of the earlier posts (sorry - I can't remember who it was that said it) someone said that if you are so hungry that an apple would satisfy you then you are truly hungry; if you are "hungry" for bread or something prohibited then it is a craving and not really starving hunger.

I hope that gives you some ideas as to how to handle it. I have to admit I am currently having one of those hunger pangs - I had feta and spinich for lunch and one of those has obviously made me hungry!! So, I've made a coffee and I'm here on the internet to distract myself!!

Ciao
 
Thanks for all the advice lessfatty and fishy, lessfatty the meals you specified also satisfy me longer- and cheese and eggs make me hungry. I am feeling an all over body hunger, not a psycological one my tummy feels empty and starts grumbling and I have been getting nauseas and hot flushes too- the nausea is what was actually worrying me the most. I rang the clinic today and they said that I was starting to detox and all the nasties in my body have been released. It's nice to know because I know now that its only temporary and I can get through it.
 
I would just like to say that I am really f#@%ing hungry today!

Hi Mermaid Sister,
I would also ring your clinic for their suggestions.... and keep track of what you are eating to see if anything that you are eating, including herbs and spices could be triggering the hunger. As lessfatty said, apples can induce hunger for some people. Also, some foods are more filling than others.... try eating beef and chicken more often than fish and see which vegetables make you feel more satisfied.. choose the meals which have the biggest servings as well!!
I also find at various times of my cycle I'm more hungry than other times.

As Fishy said, use distraction to see you thru cravings.
 
Thanks for all the advice lessfatty and fishy, lessfatty the meals you specified also satisfy me longer- and cheese and eggs make me hungry. I am feeling an all over body hunger, not a psycological one my tummy feels empty and starts grumbling and I have been getting nauseas and hot flushes too- the nausea is what was actually worrying me the most. I rang the clinic today and they said that I was starting to detox and all the nasties in my body have been released. It's nice to know because I know now that its only temporary and I can get through it.

Oops, you replied while I was writing! Glad you rang the clinic!
 
Congratulations Lizzi

Hi everyone,
It's good to come home and read everyone's posts as it is inspiring before having dinner and keeping me on track before my mind wanders.

CONGRATULATIONS LIZZI ON YOUR SUCCESS WITH THE WEIGHT LOSS AND REFEED. 72 kgs is really amazing!!!! You deserve all the success that you have earned and achieved. Enjoy your refeed and being SKINNY. Do people walk past you and not recognise you - oh what a feeling that must be. Again, you are an inspiration to all of us.

Chelsea: thanks for the advice re my chook neck. I will have to get into the habit of lathering gallons of Oil of Ulan to make it go away. I read somewhere that HGH continues to work in the body for months later to continue to firm up tissues in our bodies. So there is hope yet!!!;)

Everyone, hope you all have had a good day. :D
 
mermaids sister

Mermaid's sister
When I got really hungry especially in the middle of the day I used to cut up my apple/s into small pieces and just cover them with boiling water in a casserole dish. Sprinkle with lots of Cinnamon and microwave it for about 5 mins til soft... eat the apple pieces and drink the cinnamon water. My plan said not to have too much cinnamon but I never had any problems loading up with it (excellent for controlling your "bad"cholesterol apparently). This is probably just a much tastier version of drinking a glass of water but worked for me and I am still doing it now the diet has ended.

I finished about 3 months ago at 58.5kg and am currently holding at 60kg without too much trouble. I've experimented with how much I can eat before the weight goes on. The great thing is that when you do eat too much it only takes 1- 1 1/2 days of "fixing" to get rid of it... my experimenting has lead me to discover I can have a smallish breakfast and lunch of Cohen's food (mainly) then eat a "normal" dinner and also have a couple of glasses of wine and a bit of icecream- both of which I really missed on the diet and not put on weight!!!
For the past few weeks I've used this and it works for me.

I know it's scary to think you'll have to keep it off and can you do it? .....but it's relatively easy. Unlike before where I would think I've stuffed it up and just binge out/stack it back on - now I know it's not inevitable .. a day or two halts the damage/ gets you back in control (which you always were really)

Basically all you wonderful people have endured way more than a day on this diet... so maintaining is it's dead easy really - just a bit of care/ attention needed!!!!!
Good luck to you all - but you don't really need it - cohens rules!!
 
Day Six done and dusted for me. I feel great however....when I went to the bathroom today....it was weird....and smelt REALLY bad. Is this normal?
 
Louise

I've noticed this too, its just toxins flushing out so the worse it smells the better off you are, the toxins have been making my nauseas so I can't wait for them to flush out!
 
I've noticed this too, its just toxins flushing out so the worse it smells the better off you are, the toxins have been making my nauseas so I can't wait for them to flush out!

this might sound disgusting.....but did anyone notice that the deposits, though small, are heavy? They sink all the way down!
 
Hi All
Week sixteen today, and I have cracked the 30kg mark. Now 10 days to loose 3.1kgs by October the 7th which will be 4 calendar months on Cohens and I am working towards being in double figures. See how we go, maybe time to get the exercise underway.
Lizzie: You are a true inspiration for me.What an awersome journey. I thank you for showing me it is possible. Looking foward to hearing all about re feed and a photo would be sensational.
Mermaid sister: I try and keep fruit(apple) to have at around the two and a half hour mark between meals and then cracker/s at the four hour mark. I find this really helps keep the hunger at bay. The sugarless chewies and tea are also good distractions.
Louise: The whole smell thing is amazing, I already had a sensetive nose but since starting cohens I feel equipped to take over from the doggies at the airport. Have had to change shopping habits so as to keep meat and fish in the fridge only one and a half days so that it does not develop a hint of odour.
Someone mentioned that some herbs may make you hungry. Does anyone know what these are, I love nutmeg ( in baby spinach water) oregano, tarrogon and thyme and I use them alot. Tonight I tried the Sirena Tuna in spring water and I was pleasantly surprised, have stuck with the pouches up to know. ALso have included frozen brussel sprouts as the fresh ones are out of season and they are pretty good also.
Keep up the constant and determined work everyone.:)
 
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