hollybelle
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I haven't been doing super great on the fruits and veggies recently, but I finally did a much needed shopping, and what do you know - I happened to get plenty! Worked out perfectly for this weeks challenge.
Weight-Loss 2014 Orange and Purple Party Games Challenge
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Weight-Loss
Quercus
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I'm dropping from the contest. Sorry to all the competitors and especially team orange. It's just not the contest for me right now. It is well organized and I appreciate your efforts, but it's just not for me. I need to take a break from the scale and i can't be depended on to post every day right now. Thanks Omega and everyone!
Omega
Moderator
Sometimes such things work for us and help and other times they do not.
The scale is not the be-all and end-all in such matters - there are many more points for the work that we do to deserve weight loss than there is for the weight loss itself.
Posting every day is not important either - but simply maintaining records such that postings can be made regarding every day... Some people regularly play catch-up and post several days at one time...
Its a shame that you have decided to leave us - but we are always here if you change your mind and decide to come back to the challenge... New people can join in at any time - and that means that old people can come back at any time too... With daily exercise and counting calories you would tend to earn a lot of points... None of us can be sure of weight loss - and some of us regularly see a gain through such things as water retention despite our best efforts. My own weight stood still in the first week.
Its good to hear that you are not giving up.
icychic
New member
Q: As I said in our Team Orange thread - it is sad to see you go. BUT as others have mentioned if it's not working for you then it's not working. These challenges are not meant to feel like chores because that will end up deterring you from doing the things you need to do. They are meant for motivation for ourselves and others and it seems that's not what it is for you any more.
As Omega said: If you change your mind and want to come back, please do, we would be happy to take you back
Otherwise, keep doing what you have been with your daily exercise and calorie counting and you will keep doing great
As Omega said: If you change your mind and want to come back, please do, we would be happy to take you back
Otherwise, keep doing what you have been with your daily exercise and calorie counting and you will keep doing great
Omega
Moderator
I'll let it count this time - but bought fruit and vegetable juice is not as beneficial to us as the fruit and vegetable itself. This is because it is uncertain whether we get the benefit of the fibre.
I would draw your attention to the section on apples in this article:
http://www.webmd.com/diet/features/9-foods-to-help-you-lose-weight
One of the reasons that I have set this is that it is a way of trying to ensure without any onerous maths that we are all getting a decent level of fibre.
This article is interesting too:
http://www.webmd.com/food-recipes/features/fiber-how-much-do-you-need
When you consider all the vitamins and general health benefits that come from our fruit and vegetables - they are really important for being central to any healthy food plan. IF we choose to omit them (as some people are doing and they are free to choose this) - we are choosing to not take advantage of a lot of things that can be good for our health.
http://www.hsph.harvard.edu/nutritionsource/what-should-you-eat/vegetables-and-fruits/
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11138444
I would draw your attention to the section on apples in this article:
http://www.webmd.com/diet/features/9-foods-to-help-you-lose-weight
One of the reasons that I have set this is that it is a way of trying to ensure without any onerous maths that we are all getting a decent level of fibre.
This article is interesting too:
http://www.webmd.com/food-recipes/features/fiber-how-much-do-you-need
When you consider all the vitamins and general health benefits that come from our fruit and vegetables - they are really important for being central to any healthy food plan. IF we choose to omit them (as some people are doing and they are free to choose this) - we are choosing to not take advantage of a lot of things that can be good for our health.
http://www.hsph.harvard.edu/nutritionsource/what-should-you-eat/vegetables-and-fruits/
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11138444
ChefChiTown
New member
Omega, I tried messaging you but your inbox is full.
Anyway, I clearly haven't been keeping up on posting my daily results. I just have a lot going on right now and, in all honesty, the whole contest has been shoved to the back of my mind for the past week due to my heart and mind being focused on more important issues. It's a poor excuse, I know, but it's the truth. I just have too much going on at the moment to be keeping track of my intake for specific food groups, water, etc. Needing to reach certain goals (drinking X amount of water, eating X portions of vegetables/fruits, etc) is a great motivator for most, but it sort of interferes with my personal game plan on how I am working on losing weight. And, for those reasons, I am politely bowing out of the remainder of this contest.
I wish everybody luck and I sincerely apologize for the inconvenience of dropping out.
Anyway, I clearly haven't been keeping up on posting my daily results. I just have a lot going on right now and, in all honesty, the whole contest has been shoved to the back of my mind for the past week due to my heart and mind being focused on more important issues. It's a poor excuse, I know, but it's the truth. I just have too much going on at the moment to be keeping track of my intake for specific food groups, water, etc. Needing to reach certain goals (drinking X amount of water, eating X portions of vegetables/fruits, etc) is a great motivator for most, but it sort of interferes with my personal game plan on how I am working on losing weight. And, for those reasons, I am politely bowing out of the remainder of this contest.
I wish everybody luck and I sincerely apologize for the inconvenience of dropping out.
Omega
Moderator
I'll have to sort out my inbox. It keeps filling up as I get messages every time I give out infractions to the naughty folk.
I am sorry to lose you from the challenge - but you have to do what is right for you. Such things help some people and do not help others... Feel free to come back if you change your mind.
The important thing is that you keep on trying to follow your own game plan and work on your weight.
I am sorry to lose you from the challenge - but you have to do what is right for you. Such things help some people and do not help others... Feel free to come back if you change your mind.
The important thing is that you keep on trying to follow your own game plan and work on your weight.
Omega
Moderator
I have finally got round to checking the end of week 2 situation...
Well done to Orange for holding on to the lead.
It is still pretty close - and either team could win...
Well done to Orange for holding on to the lead.
It is still pretty close - and either team could win...
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Omega
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Week 4 bonus
For 1 point - continue listing all your food. If complete for all 7 days - this would be reported as LLLLLLL
When we are wanting to lose weight it is important to remember that it is fat weight that we are wanting to lose and not muscle. If we cut our calories without taking care about the nutritional balance that we are having we may not be getting the right kind of fuel that our body needs. Our body's way of dealing with a shortfall is to basically convert our muscle to fuel - and if that happens it is perfectly possible to lose weight but be carrying just as much fat, be less healthy and look just as flabby if not more.
I do know of a lot of authorities that suggest that there are benefits to having a high protein diet and recommend intakes of the order of 1g per pound of lean body weight or 1g per 2 pounds of actual weight... Both these recommendations give quite a high target which people may choose to consider over time...
Fortunately the RDA is much lower - but it is quite important that people have sufficient protein to hit this fairly low RDA... If people do not enjoy protein foods - they may consider this to be a waste of calories - but it isnt.
For 2 points - have sufficient protein to cover the RDA as given on the following link. If complete for all 7 days - this would be reported as PPPPPPP
For 1 point - continue listing all your food. If complete for all 7 days - this would be reported as LLLLLLL
When we are wanting to lose weight it is important to remember that it is fat weight that we are wanting to lose and not muscle. If we cut our calories without taking care about the nutritional balance that we are having we may not be getting the right kind of fuel that our body needs. Our body's way of dealing with a shortfall is to basically convert our muscle to fuel - and if that happens it is perfectly possible to lose weight but be carrying just as much fat, be less healthy and look just as flabby if not more.
I do know of a lot of authorities that suggest that there are benefits to having a high protein diet and recommend intakes of the order of 1g per pound of lean body weight or 1g per 2 pounds of actual weight... Both these recommendations give quite a high target which people may choose to consider over time...
Fortunately the RDA is much lower - but it is quite important that people have sufficient protein to hit this fairly low RDA... If people do not enjoy protein foods - they may consider this to be a waste of calories - but it isnt.
For 2 points - have sufficient protein to cover the RDA as given on the following link. If complete for all 7 days - this would be reported as PPPPPPP
hollybelle
New member
I really love these challenges and this site, it really helps me learn and slowly pick up better habits.
1. I had no idea I was supposed to be drinking like 1 million oz of water a day, I assumed the typical 64 oz was enough.
2.I realized through the last challenge while I have and eat veggies and fruit i am still not eating the recommended amount.
3. This challenge I read up on protein, I do however think I have been doing ok on the protein front, but not because it was something I was being conscious of, just turns out I like protein rich food.
I'm the type of person you throw this all at me at once I will fail, but introducing it slowly, I slowly becoming aware and conscious of what to do and can start doing things incrementally which will make the change feasible for me.
1. I had no idea I was supposed to be drinking like 1 million oz of water a day, I assumed the typical 64 oz was enough.
2.I realized through the last challenge while I have and eat veggies and fruit i am still not eating the recommended amount.
3. This challenge I read up on protein, I do however think I have been doing ok on the protein front, but not because it was something I was being conscious of, just turns out I like protein rich food.
I'm the type of person you throw this all at me at once I will fail, but introducing it slowly, I slowly becoming aware and conscious of what to do and can start doing things incrementally which will make the change feasible for me.
Omega
Moderator
That's great hollybelle. I learnt a lot in the challenges back in 2007 to 2009. Prior to that I used to eat things based on which food I enjoyed most... I think that a lot of people fuel their body that way - but if we are in the process of learning new eating habits - it makes sense to know how to make them really healthy eating habits...
If you like protein you may like to try the 1g per pound of lean body weight recommendation as an experiment sometime. That is the recommendation that I used to shoot for when I was being strict with myself - but I thought that it may be a bit tough to ask people to try to do at short notice... As the link I gave suggests - if you eat more protein it costs calories and can make it a tough job to get the food plan in with an acceptable calorie level...
Lean body weight is calculated by taking your actual weight and reducing it by your percent body fat to get the proportion of you that is lean... To put it simply - that means that if you weight 200 pounds and are 25% body fat - your lean body weight is 150 pounds...
I know that the last time that I worked it out it gave me a target of just over 100g protein a day...
I must admit that I will just calculate the protein content of one or two key items every day which I fully expect will hit the RDA.
If you like protein you may like to try the 1g per pound of lean body weight recommendation as an experiment sometime. That is the recommendation that I used to shoot for when I was being strict with myself - but I thought that it may be a bit tough to ask people to try to do at short notice... As the link I gave suggests - if you eat more protein it costs calories and can make it a tough job to get the food plan in with an acceptable calorie level...
Lean body weight is calculated by taking your actual weight and reducing it by your percent body fat to get the proportion of you that is lean... To put it simply - that means that if you weight 200 pounds and are 25% body fat - your lean body weight is 150 pounds...
I know that the last time that I worked it out it gave me a target of just over 100g protein a day...
I must admit that I will just calculate the protein content of one or two key items every day which I fully expect will hit the RDA.
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icychic
New member
I have no idea what my % body fat is so I prefer this general calculation of 46g per day for me. With that said I don't think I eat nearly enough protein but this will be a good way to find out!
And Holly I agree with you - I think this challenge is great because every week we learn something new and have time to incorporate it into our lives rather than making a ton of changes all at ones and failing.
And Holly I agree with you - I think this challenge is great because every week we learn something new and have time to incorporate it into our lives rather than making a ton of changes all at ones and failing.
Omega
Moderator
If you are a member of a gym - personal trainers can calculate your percent body weight by measuring skin fold in key places using calipers.
Some medical institutions have equipment that can give an accurate reading too.
You can buy hand-held body fat meters - but these are not always quite so accurate...
I once had my percent body fat measured accurately in some medical tests and I tend to use that as a lean body weight figure... My fat percent has most definitely increased since then since my weight has increased - and for simplicity's sake I have assumed that the increase is ALL fat and the lean weight of my body has not increased since then... I reckon that if I get 100g protein I am doing ok...
Some medical institutions have equipment that can give an accurate reading too.
You can buy hand-held body fat meters - but these are not always quite so accurate...
I once had my percent body fat measured accurately in some medical tests and I tend to use that as a lean body weight figure... My fat percent has most definitely increased since then since my weight has increased - and for simplicity's sake I have assumed that the increase is ALL fat and the lean weight of my body has not increased since then... I reckon that if I get 100g protein I am doing ok...