No. You are reasoning about infinity incorrectly.
What is the point of all this anyway, im sure theres more interesting things to talk about yes?
I know nothing of the sort. It is a perfectly valid example. You are simply displeased because you don't like the conclusion. You said that just because one event is possible, another one is. Sorry, but it doesn't work that way. I am sorry that the Norwegian school system has failed you so poorly.thats a bad example and you know it.
This is no better than your first effort. See above for why it is incorrect.I guess im gonna need an illustration for you to understand, lets go with "Hi there" you can calculate that? how about this "Hi there, who are you? I thought i met you last night" possible, right? see where im getting? Longer and longer sentances, im sorry i cant be bothered with typing inn hamlet here and taking the time to progress from "Hi there" to hamlet.
the problem is ofcource that random typing monkies could turn off the computer, like i said, delete the entire thing, etc. Which would set them back, but turning off the computer would kill the thing, as they cant turn it on from the keyboard.
I know it would never happen, because you cant give monkies infinete time, because of lifespan etc.
No, it is simply a thermodynamics thought experiment.I guess where this is going is that it's a metaphor for the existence of the universe and the chance that it happened randomly or it was divinely inspired.
I sent an email to my brother-in-law. He's a statistics professor at Indiana University. I'm willing to live by his ruling whatever it may be...
I've said it before and I'll say it again. Just because their is a chance(regardless of size) of something happening. Does not mean that something will happen. It's perfectly reasonable to assume the monkeys would continue to type forever and never type it correctly. Mainly because there are many variables left unanswered.
THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS A PERFECT RANDOM GENERATOR. More then likely the monkeys will continue to type a certain repeating sequence of letters and so on. Much like a repeating decimal in math.
We must remembers the monkeys ability to remember. I am not sure how many characters they are able to hold in memory at one time. But lets assume its 5. Its VERY likely they would simply type the same 5 letters in a certain order in a certain sequence for all eternity.
For the monkeys to write it correctly. It would REQUIRE a CONSTANT state of awareness. Of what the monkey just hit and a CHOICE to hit a different character each time (unless when needed)...
I hope I made that understandable...
I love it when one of my new fans decides to search the Internet to learn more about classy Tanizaki!
we have had another poster discuss that already like 5 pages back. and we talked about it. got it out of the way.
even given infinite time, it does not HAVE to happen, let alone with only 1000 monkeys. lei explained it a while back there.
as you said: "If things are entered randomly there is a nonzero chance that typing X could happen"
so using that, it is possible for one of the monkeys to type "a" repeatedly forever given it is random. it is also possible for another one of the 1000 monkeys to type "b" forever. and so on. therefore, nothing HAS to occur. even with infinite time. let alone writing a multi thousand character play absolutely perfect...
If there were a such thing as a true random character generator, over the course of infinity it would type every possible combination of characters. That includes Hamlet and every other text that ever existed, including this conversation.
you are wrong.
there is an infinite number of conversations that can be spoken and an infinite combination of letters that can be combined to create an infinite number of texts that could have been written in the past; which as far as we know could have been infinite years back in the infinity of the universe in which every being in the universe creating different works of text.
Here's his answer for what it's worth...
The idea,
however, is that if you continue to do a process an infinite number of
times and the probability is nonzero, eventually it will happen.
I hope this helps!
Take care,"
So he agrees that while on any particular occasion it is extremely, extremely unlikely, If you get an infinite number of chances it will eventually happen (it may billions upon billion upon billions of years to happen, but theoretically it will.
OK, I'll shut up now LOL
...as far as a statistician not being an expert on this subject, here's my brother-in-law's response:
"It is more appropriately, in my opinion, the interaction between
probability and philosophy. Statistics and probability are very much
linked, but they do differ in scope and problems. It is certainly
related to statistics though. Statistics describes data and/or makes
inferences about the population given sample data."
There is no such thing as one infinity being longer than another.
