Those People at the Gym
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ExercisePhysio
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Steroids are uber retarded for almost everyone, with the exceptions being the:
a) super rich
AND
b) super dedicated/disciplined
AND
c) super well-read.
So in other words, almost no one should be taking steroids.
Michael
a) super rich
AND
b) super dedicated/disciplined
AND
c) super well-read.
So in other words, almost no one should be taking steroids.
Michael
I get the b and c -but what makes super rich acceptable?
I'm being too literal but it sounds like you're saying if you've got money to waste then it's Ok to do something to your body that will hurt it in the long run?
I'm grumpy... poke poke poke
Options 2 and 3 assume that a person knows what they are doing with steroids and while they might not be the smartst thing in the world to use - it implies that the person using them will do so with care because they've done the research and knows how to use them.
The rich option assumes the person has the money to use them but not the knowledge so why does that make it ok for them to use it - they arent going to be smart about them.
Options 2 and 3 assume that a person knows what they are doing with steroids and while they might not be the smartst thing in the world to use - it implies that the person using them will do so with care because they've done the research and knows how to use them.
The rich option assumes the person has the money to use them but not the knowledge so why does that make it ok for them to use it - they arent going to be smart about them.
that 'splains it now - OR is usually the default when I look at conditions -the ANDs confused me...
carry on...
i'll go pick a fight somewhere else...
carry on...
i'll go pick a fight somewhere else...
ExercisePhysio
Guest
My view of steroids:
I'm not anti-steroid. But I think PROPER steroid use is an expensive enterprise. This doesn't mean 'buying lots' from the meathead at Gold's Gym (or one of the trainers there lol). It means having the stuff tested at a lab for purity, purchasing the proper anti-estrogens, and having consistent testing from your doctor.
It's not cheap, and a proper cycle is going to cost someone (beyond the extra food you have to eat) after testing $600-2000 (depending on what you want).
Done 3 times a year? That's a significant expense, and I'm sorry most young people should be investing/putting money away and not spending it on cycles.
Not to mention the discipline you need. It isn't stick a needle in you once a week and pop a few pills in the morning and off you go. It requires constant supervision, knowledge of injection sites (who wants to hit the sciatic nerve? I sure as hell don't) and a supremely organized and thorough eating/workout plan.
And steroids aren't simple things...knowledge is needed first to even know what to ask the doctor and what tests you should have. Ideally someone should have an undergraduate biology/chemistry background before even touching some of this stuff. Some steroids out there ARE toxic and liver destroyers...and should be avoided like the plague.
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That being said, there are well-known steroids that have no permanent side-effects (and few temporary side effects, most of which are minor) that are not toxic in appropriate doses. Given the right program, they can produce excellent results.
Caveat: Possession in Canada is NOT illegal and I know that the laws in the US and Australia are much more strict. If possession is illegal in your country of origin, there is NEVER a right time to do steroids.
Michael
I'm not anti-steroid. But I think PROPER steroid use is an expensive enterprise. This doesn't mean 'buying lots' from the meathead at Gold's Gym (or one of the trainers there lol). It means having the stuff tested at a lab for purity, purchasing the proper anti-estrogens, and having consistent testing from your doctor.
It's not cheap, and a proper cycle is going to cost someone (beyond the extra food you have to eat) after testing $600-2000 (depending on what you want).
Done 3 times a year? That's a significant expense, and I'm sorry most young people should be investing/putting money away and not spending it on cycles.
Not to mention the discipline you need. It isn't stick a needle in you once a week and pop a few pills in the morning and off you go. It requires constant supervision, knowledge of injection sites (who wants to hit the sciatic nerve? I sure as hell don't) and a supremely organized and thorough eating/workout plan.
And steroids aren't simple things...knowledge is needed first to even know what to ask the doctor and what tests you should have. Ideally someone should have an undergraduate biology/chemistry background before even touching some of this stuff. Some steroids out there ARE toxic and liver destroyers...and should be avoided like the plague.
____________________________________________________________
That being said, there are well-known steroids that have no permanent side-effects (and few temporary side effects, most of which are minor) that are not toxic in appropriate doses. Given the right program, they can produce excellent results.
Caveat: Possession in Canada is NOT illegal and I know that the laws in the US and Australia are much more strict. If possession is illegal in your country of origin, there is NEVER a right time to do steroids.
Michael
James2
New member
So, all steroid use aside, I got a new person to add to the list...
A lady in my office has been begging me for a long time to take her with me (and my workout partner) when we go. She is whiny and needy in general, and our senses of humor are so different that being near her is painful, so I've been dodging it. However, she FINALLY cornered my workout partner, and he acquiesced.
So, she shows up in her workout gear (and gloves... already minus points for that), and we roll to the gym. The whole time there, she brags on how much she used to go to the gym, and how good she is at going to the gym (... yeah, I thought it was an interesting phrasing too). We get there, she pays the RIDICULOUS $10 guest fee at golds, we do a quick warmup on the treadmills, and head off for the weights. Here is where it gets bad.
She starts whining CONSTANTLY. That was hard, why would we do that? Why do we have to do it again? Why did I only hit 7 reps when I said I wanted to hit 8? Why are you guys so slow at this? Why would I need a spotter for this? Why didn't you spot me? What do you mean my form is bad, I had a trainer teach me this?
Her biggest sin, though, and the most distracting thing was that she WOULD NOT SIT STILL the entire time when other people were trying to lift. I'd be benching, and she'd be dancing and bouncing back and forth right next to the edge of the bar. When I was squatting, she stood to my side, and was laughing at me and giving me shit about my face getting red MID SQUAT. Dick with me all you want when I don't have 400+ pounds on my shoulders, but for heaven's sake, leave me be when I could tear/break something.
Plus, she took the normally 50 minute friday routine, and she made the friggin thing last 1.5 hours. When we get back to the office, she seriously went around to EVERYONE and bragged about working out with us, while slapping us on the back and putting her hand up for high fives.
Luckily for her health, I was able to squeeze out a really good lift (even though it took twice as long as needed). Needless to say, she will never be invited again.
A lady in my office has been begging me for a long time to take her with me (and my workout partner) when we go. She is whiny and needy in general, and our senses of humor are so different that being near her is painful, so I've been dodging it. However, she FINALLY cornered my workout partner, and he acquiesced.
So, she shows up in her workout gear (and gloves... already minus points for that), and we roll to the gym. The whole time there, she brags on how much she used to go to the gym, and how good she is at going to the gym (... yeah, I thought it was an interesting phrasing too). We get there, she pays the RIDICULOUS $10 guest fee at golds, we do a quick warmup on the treadmills, and head off for the weights. Here is where it gets bad.
She starts whining CONSTANTLY. That was hard, why would we do that? Why do we have to do it again? Why did I only hit 7 reps when I said I wanted to hit 8? Why are you guys so slow at this? Why would I need a spotter for this? Why didn't you spot me? What do you mean my form is bad, I had a trainer teach me this?
Her biggest sin, though, and the most distracting thing was that she WOULD NOT SIT STILL the entire time when other people were trying to lift. I'd be benching, and she'd be dancing and bouncing back and forth right next to the edge of the bar. When I was squatting, she stood to my side, and was laughing at me and giving me shit about my face getting red MID SQUAT. Dick with me all you want when I don't have 400+ pounds on my shoulders, but for heaven's sake, leave me be when I could tear/break something.
Plus, she took the normally 50 minute friday routine, and she made the friggin thing last 1.5 hours. When we get back to the office, she seriously went around to EVERYONE and bragged about working out with us, while slapping us on the back and putting her hand up for high fives.
Luckily for her health, I was able to squeeze out a really good lift (even though it took twice as long as needed). Needless to say, she will never be invited again.
that's like one ofthe corporal works of mercy i think... you get brownie points in the event there isa heaven 
shanifaye
New member
I've only been working out at the gym for two days but I've already come across this...I got there about 215...was the only girl there and the only person under the age of at least 65.
I was on one of the machines (I havent been using them long enuff to know which ones called which, but I "think" it was a chest press of some kind) and this old guy sat on the machine next to me...nodded hi (i was listening to my ipod) and preceeded to start using his machine....all of these machines are in front of a mirror and while Im huffing and puffing..trying to get that first "8" done I glance in the mirror and notice he's wearing these white spandexy kind of shorts (not sure what they were looked more like underwear to me cause it was see thru) with a longish tshirt....he's got his legs spread and these things were so see thru I could see the entire package....
I didnt mean to...I choked....the handles slipped out of my hands and the weights clanged loudly. I mean geez this guy was between my father and my grandfathers age...I had bad flashbacks of the time I accidentally saw my dad naked when I was a teenager lol
He finished what he was doing and got up and left...I noticed a few minutes later he was back wearing some loose shorts over whatever those things were (they were long enuff to hang out under the other shorts and make him look like he was auditioning for a remake of Madonna's Lucky Star video)
I kinda felt bad for my reaction...but damn....it was SO unexpected lol
Funny Story,
I got one of my friend's to start working out at the gym. She was into it and actually lsoing wt. One day, she is on a treadmill and is pretty sure she hears the guys behind her say something "hey look at her". She was feeling good and started going faster. Now, they seemed to be laughing. At first she thought, they were laughing at the tv. then she heard them say something like, look now. She felt very self conscious and ended her workout only to go to the locker room and discover she had a seam split in her crack!
She was mortified and that was the end of her gym workout. Pretty funny if you ask me.
Then my sister. Got her into it too.
The back of the treadmills were against the wall. so, she started her walkiing routine and her towel falls off the handle bar onto the treadmill. So, what does she do? She stops on the treadmiill to pick it up w/ the treadmill still moving. She stops walking and bends down and the treadmill shoots her off the back. She falls and her knees are against the treadmill belt and she is literally stuck w/ the treadmill still running. She had to yell for help. She ended up with huge knee burns. I am still laughing about it now. Thank God I wasn't there, cuz I couldn't have helped her as i would of been rolling on the ground.
Okay Peeve,
A friiend sees someone on a machine and starts talking the whole time the guy is just sitting on the machine as I am waiting. Of course me being me, have to walk over and say, can I work in? argh!!!!
I got one of my friend's to start working out at the gym. She was into it and actually lsoing wt. One day, she is on a treadmill and is pretty sure she hears the guys behind her say something "hey look at her". She was feeling good and started going faster. Now, they seemed to be laughing. At first she thought, they were laughing at the tv. then she heard them say something like, look now. She felt very self conscious and ended her workout only to go to the locker room and discover she had a seam split in her crack!
She was mortified and that was the end of her gym workout. Pretty funny if you ask me.
Then my sister. Got her into it too.
The back of the treadmills were against the wall. so, she started her walkiing routine and her towel falls off the handle bar onto the treadmill. So, what does she do? She stops on the treadmiill to pick it up w/ the treadmill still moving. She stops walking and bends down and the treadmill shoots her off the back. She falls and her knees are against the treadmill belt and she is literally stuck w/ the treadmill still running. She had to yell for help. She ended up with huge knee burns. I am still laughing about it now. Thank God I wasn't there, cuz I couldn't have helped her as i would of been rolling on the ground.
Okay Peeve,
A friiend sees someone on a machine and starts talking the whole time the guy is just sitting on the machine as I am waiting. Of course me being me, have to walk over and say, can I work in? argh!!!!
