Suicide - Once in a lifetime experience.

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dammit there we go again ruining a very serious and informative thread with our beastiality comments.
 
That still doesn't explain the guns being out

Let's say they decide to pull you or they pull out a weapon as you come closer? Then you'd be wishing you'd had your gun ready.

I still can't get over the "daddy" stuff. It reminds me of this movie I was forced to watch on Lifetime. Basically this woman had a dad who frauds the insurance company by blowing off his hand with a shotgun and then using his son-in-law for money. Then one day the son-in-law came back from work with a bag of money and his wife was like, "Maybe we should give it to daddy?" Then the son-in-law just snapped and got medieval on the chick and shook her really hard asking questions like, "Do you want to give this to daddy?" Then everyone started crying and then he just stomped off to the bar where he drank like 10 cases of beer. That's what this thread reminds me of.

Sorry to get off track. However, I still don't think the TC is serious about suicide. I think it's an attention gainer since he's afraid of any changes. So I just think in that case you should man up and just do it without anyone's approval for the things you want to do.
 
i dont think there is anything wrong with me

You are in denial. You are obsessing about things you have ZERO control over. That is a waste of time and energy. Your have held on to those negative thoughts in your brain but you're not getting anything positive out of the deal. Those thoughts don't belong in your head. If you keep holding on to them, your perception of life will eventually be so tainted and toxic, you won't be able to see anything good or positive in anything or anybody. BTW, what you are doing is a learned response. FYI, you can "unlearn" it.

i just want to live a life of only pleasure and no bs but that is impossible.

You are not in denial here. It is not possible to live a life of only pleasure. The Romans thought they could live a life of pleasure, and their empire declined as a result of their hedonistic ways. Sucks to be them.

If i kill myself im not leaving anything i care about behind anyway..

NEWSFLASH! The world doesn't revolve around you! But the people you leave behind will suffer, regardless as to what your skewed point of reference would have you believe.

Here's a reality check: Life sucks. It sucks for everybody. You can't possibly think that everybody on this forum has had a perfect childhood, a conflict-free upbringing, no problems in school, no difficulties in their job, no illness, no set-backs, no relationship problems, etc. We all have problems and issues. The reason we're not complaining and dwelling on them is because we picked ourselves up every time we were kicked to the ground and kept moving forward. That's what we do. Nobody said it was easy.

I'm going to tell you what I think defines any successful person (and I mean personal success, not monetary): to know yourself well enough to choose what battles you should fight and which ones don't matter in the scheme of things (most things don't matter); to conduct your affairs with integrity; to exercise self-control in all situations; to treat people with respect; and to persevere regardless of how many obstacles are thrown in your path. (Think of the Spartans here ...)

As Thomas Edison said "Many of life's failures are people who did not realize how close they were to success when they gave up."

People define who they really are by how they react to stimuli in life -- mostly the negative stimuli. You might want to take a look at how you have reacted to these negative stimuli, how much time and energy you have wasted on them, and how it has affected your life.

Bottom line: Your perception is flawed.
 
i slept 11 hours or so, and i still feel the pretty much the same. Some people joked here, others had 'tough love' posts others were trying to get me to see that 'im wrong so dont do it'. Some supported me getting medicated and if medication was prescribed which i still dont think i need then i would only want to use it to get high... but i dont even want to get high, and i used to like getting high.... Then lets say i am wrong(open to intepretation, but seeing other point of view is still good-reason i made the thread) now i admit to everyone oh yeah i was 'sick' but now i am better, that wont happen. I like the spartan reference by the way, but im not as strong as them. I mean i can persevere and all that through a sh!tty life and now im old, being old sucks. I dont want to even live past 40, but the older you get the more you are going to want to stay alive, while you need to go back to wearing diapers, using hearing aids, getting eye surgerory, and all that sh!t... The best part of your life is over after right around college years.. so early 20s. The rest is just building a career, then having a family, becoming old and dying anyway. This has some meaning because you whacked out a few kids but its a terrible life in my eyes, i wouldnt want to punish anyone else by helping to create life... It sounded like i have 'daddy' issues but i dont, he just has to be so gay and keep asking tons of sh!t from me in a short time period and its overwhelming... I already know that noone cares if I die, just as i wouldnt care if they died. Im just talking to whoever wants to post thier ideas about life.

All the mentalities ive seen are:

Dont joke about suicide its really bad
Joke about suicide for my entertainment/so he wont really do it
I just want attention
Life is great, my perception is off
Im sick i need to be medicated
Life sucks, me a man... be a spartan...
The world doesnt revolve around me so i have no right to end my life
You are going to die anyway so live the fuker...
Im jealous that im dying faster than you, but you want to throw away many possible years of your life which i wish i could have.
You are immature crying about the simplest of problems...

My mentalities
-We are all dying, suicide means you die sooner.
'living' is meaningless i need purpose,and not just suicide will make my family feel bad, well i didnt tell them to have kids for thier own selfish reasons(to make thier own death easier to deal with 'i passed on my seed' or because 'i want a baby' etc..)
-Society has alot to offer certain groups of people, but not people like me who dont get pleasure from materialism...
-Dying is better for the enviroment and the majority of people whom i dont upset by not conforming too/ not projecting my disgust of life...
-Its pathetic to suffer so much from the simplest of problems. Im burnt out, so i should end my life/kill off the weak(myself) because i am useless to myself and others despite my potential...
-Best years of my life are behind me, if i die now i can keep the highest percent of time enjoyed in my life...
-Things will only get worse(aging/health problems/financial issues etc)
-Suicide itself can be enjoyable knowing that i dislike life and that i will no longer live
-Its easier to die now, then die later should i actually magically enjoy my life.
-most people believe in suicide when explained differently(dying painfully,being tortured,protecting something you care for) and can easily relate if(your depressed,disfigured,some traumatic event just occured) so we are haggling over 'do i have enough reason to kill myself'-open to interpretation...
-Suicide is freedom, you can pick however you want to die and make a real impact on the world(if even for a short time like half an hour)
-If i dont kill myself i have to admit at least to myself that i was wrong/sick/other undesirable trait.
-more mentalities but i think ive listed enough already

Ive seen some comments that are way better than what i would have expected to see...
 
If that's how you truly feel, then you need to get professional help. And hopefully they will give you some medication. You've really fallen into the nether regions of the abyss of depression.

It goes against human nature to want to do yourself in. Most people will do whatever they can to survive. It's instinct.
 
Well then, no one is stopping you, posting here isn't going to make anyone feel sorry for you.

If you kill yourself, it just proves Darwin was right. The weak die, and the strong who endure pain reproduce

Anyways, if you end up offing yourself. Enjoy hell.
 
Well then, no one is stopping you, posting here isn't going to make anyone feel sorry for you.

If you kill yourself, it just proves Darwin was right. The weak die, and the strong who endure pain reproduce

Anyways, if you end up offing yourself. Enjoy hell.

That's pretty much the way the world works. The weak get eaten. The strong survive and reproduce.
 
I would, but I'm genetically defective (I have allergies and diabetes). If I was the Darwinator, I'd have to remove myself from the gene pool :D

But Spartan babies sound good :)
 
Well then, no one is stopping you, posting here isn't going to make anyone feel sorry for you.

If you kill yourself, it just proves Darwin was right. The weak die, and the strong who endure pain reproduce

Anyways, if you end up offing yourself. Enjoy hell.

see what i mean we are trained to act in ways that dont even make sense. You are talking about science a guy who tries to disprove religion then talk about me going to hell. Just because i believe in God though, doesnt mean i believe in heaven or hell. Its almost impossible to do any good or do any bad in life so why would there be a heaven. The resason heaven and hell exists is because people use the idea to get other people to act a certain way, youre using it so that i wont kill themself out of fear... I dont want people to feel sorry for me or anything, im just thinking about the whole situation and taking into consideration other points of view.
 
Do you realize your arguments don't really make any sense? Science and religion are not mutually exclusive.

Anyway, if I were you, I'd make darn sure that heaven and hell weren't simply constructs of man before doing myself in.

Since you seem to be hell-bent on suicide (no pun intended), I have a degree in Organic Chemistry and I know dozens of way to kill people. You can even choose how long it takes. However, bullets are really cheap and don't raise eyebrows like chemical compounds do, so if you prefer that route, other than being very messy, it's highly effective provided you don't miss.

From now on, every time I see one of your posts, I'm going to think of you as "Death Wish".
 
Do you realize your arguments don't really make any sense? Science and religion are not mutually exclusive.

Anyway, if I were you, I'd make darn sure that heaven and hell weren't simply constructs of man before doing myself in.

Since you seem to be hell-bent on suicide (no pun intended), I have a degree in Organic Chemistry and I know dozens of way to kill people. You can even choose how long it takes. However, bullets are really cheap and don't raise eyebrows like chemical compounds do, so if you prefer that route, other than being very messy, it's highly effective provided you don't miss.

From now on, every time I see one of your posts, I'm going to think of you as "Death Wish".

my arguement makes sense but there is that possibiltiy that both arent mutually exclusive. Unfortunately there is no way of being sure that hell doesnt exist. The hell argument is a crap shoot either way.Hell exists god shows mercy, hell exists and im sent there, hell doesnt exist i dont go there, hell exists but suiciders dont end up there, hell is what sucks most for you and for me that would be living so i would be reborn until i get it right. Then if you think about it waiting to die/committing suicide are basically the same thing so then most of you would think im going to hell anyway. If God struck me down where i stood then all these problems would be resolved. So i think thats what you meant by thinking of me as "death wish" -unless you are offereing a poisonious substance/homemade drug that can end my life?
 
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If God struck me down where i stood then all these problems would be resolved. So i think thats what you meant by thinking of me as "death wish" -unless you are offereing a poisonious substance/homemade drug that can end my life?

But He won't strike you down because what you are calling "problems" are your tests here and God won't let up until you face them. One day when you look back on your problems, you will realize that you learned something very valuable from them that you would not have learned otherwise.

Life is not a dress rehearsal. This is the only shot you have here. Make the best of it.
 
All the mentalities ive seen are:

Im jealous that im dying faster than you, but you want to throw away many possible years of your life which i wish i could have.

I am in no way jealous of you. Just sad that you choose to spit on the gift of life in every way you can, then gloat about it in order to get attention because you are desperately lonely after pushing everyone in your life so thoroughly away.

You want to live a life of nothing but pleasure, contributing nothing yet somehow live magically off the profit of the hardworking people of society? Try communism out for size, but in America that won't fly. You get back from life what you put into it. If you put in nothing you well get exactly that. And if you keep putting in selfishness and ungratefulness... Its no wonder you have no friends and are forced to sit alone in the dark typing ridiculous things into the internet because saying them out loud to someone might have repercussions (heaven forbid you should be responsible for something). You're probably refreshing a forum every two seconds, hoping a stranger somewhere has replied to your inane babble so that you can feel some glimmer of interaction to satisfy your attention fix.

And out of all the things you whine about, that's one of the saddest of all and you didn't even mention it.
 
Oh, and for all those of you concerned he might really do it because of what we're saying here... best solution? Get a board mod or someone to get his IP address and report him as suicidal to his internet provider, who will pass on his home address to the police so he can get himself locked up and sorted out. Otherwise you can't help him and he is just subjecting himself to whatever this forum throws at him. And he'll just keep doing it because he thinks the things he does on the internet have no consequence in his "real life". Maybe a suicide watch detainment is just what he needs to knock reality into him.
 
I actually do remember that guy...wait, are you serious that it's him?
 
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