Road to Bulimia / BED recovery.

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Hey, it looks like you're doing great so far! I agree with adding some protein to some of your meals, it will help with your satiety. And if your overall intake is a bit higher, you should be less tempted to binge or overeat.

As for the salted vs unsalted peanuts, I would say try both and see if they have an effect on how many you eat. I definitely find that I will eat more salted than unsalted.

Good job so far!


Same on the peanuts... try both and see how you feel! I find I do like to get a fairly healthy salty snack in, it satisfies that urge for a salty snack so I don’t get fixated on chips and junk foods
 
Hey Yenna, I just read through your diary, it looks like you are doing well, I like the food pictures. Is that you with the horse?

To be honest I had avoided reading your diary because I know little to nothing about bulimia, and have not idea what BED is. But after reading what you wrote I can see your food problems are more like mine than I appreciated. Biggest difference is that I don't purge, I just get fat.

In the past, when I first heard about bulimia it sounded like a good idea to me, so I tried. I was never able to purge so I gave up. I know that sounds foolish but when you are as overweight as I have been you can try anything.

Reading about your success helps me, I will open your diary more often!
 
In the past, when I first heard about bulimia it sounded like a good idea to me, so I tried. I was never able to purge so I gave up.
And I thought I was the only person to be that... inefficient. Looking back I´m so glad I "failed"!
 
Alright, so a lot has happened the past week.

First of all, being a lax addict is taking a toll on what seems to be my liver. I took some before going to (ironically) an ED appointment, and while on the bus I got sick. I felt a nauseating pain in what wasn't my stomach, but also not my chest area. I went to tell the bus driver I would be heading back as I felt like I could black out. He said something but I couldn't understand what he was saying as my body stopped functioning. I fell down and, though I never blacked out, it took me a second to feel okay again. It was the dropping of my blood pressure due to the pain that made me nearly faint. I knew it was from the laxatives, but I had never had such a bad reaction from 3 pills. I haven't taken 3 pills at once since that day. I have done 2 mainly due to binge-eating.

So to prevent me from doing laxatives and to lose weight more efficiently without swallowing generous amounts of food at once, I think it would be best for me to drink smoothies. I got myself all the necessities and started trying out a few things. Turns out I really love anything that involves mango and pineapple. When its cold and quite thick, I can't drink it very quickly but will be filling. Therefore I can spread it out over the day and still feel full. I want to taste sweetness without having to resort to sugary stuff like sweets and sodas. Hopefully this will help me as I'm pretty sure I'm over 74kg right now (163 lbs). I really need to get back into this... I know I can do this.

I want to exercise more as well. I've decided to get back into K-pop dancing, with this choreography at the top of my list.

Plan June 19th:
Shift: 6:00am - 4:00pm
Shake plan: 506kcal for 1L , pineapple, strawberry, banana, blueberry.
Exercise plan: Learn choreo till at least 0:35.

5:30: 2 crackers (58) with Sandwich Spread (56)

8:00: Sips of smoothie (approx 50), coffee (25), cracker with sandwich spread (57)

10:15: Sips of smoothie (approx 100), coffee (25), large banana (125)

12:45: Sips of smoothie (approx 50), coffee (25), cracker with sandwich spread (57)

15:00: Sips of smoothie (approx 50)

17:30: Breadroll (122), with egg (80), and chicken (80), approx 100kcal worth of veggies.

Rest of the night: Rest of smoothie (253), maybe some extra fruit or baby carrots?

Total: Approx 1,400 kcal.

What should I add or remove from this plan? I'd love suggestions. Perhaps I could add some peanuts or almonds again, I just don't want to end up binging on them. Perhaps I should save the rest of the smoothie for June 20th and just substitute it with nuts and maybe yogurt?

Todays / This weeks pics: Burger I made last week that was delicious, the chicken and egg sandwich I like to make, a pineapple and mango smoothie (which was delicious), lunch provided at my job for working on Saturday, and the kitty I'm kittysitting for good measure :p.

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Hey Yenna, I just read through your diary, it looks like you are doing well, I like the food pictures. Is that you with the horse?

To be honest I had avoided reading your diary because I know little to nothing about bulimia, and have not idea what BED is. But after reading what you wrote I can see your food problems are more like mine than I appreciated. Biggest difference is that I don't purge, I just get fat.

In the past, when I first heard about bulimia it sounded like a good idea to me, so I tried. I was never able to purge so I gave up. I know that sounds foolish but when you are as overweight as I have been you can try anything.

Reading about your success helps me, I will open your diary more often!

It is not, the girl on the picture is my sister who I unfortunately lost due to illness :(. The diamond painting is done now though and it is so, so gorgeous! <3

And yeah I totally get where you are coming from, I also just kept gaining more and more weight which led me to start using laxatives, which led to purging within a few months. I've had to have 6 teeth pulled because of it, so let's hope I never feel like resorting to that again! Still haven't intentionally thrown up since my sister passed away, and I intend to keep it that way.

Thank you so much for reading through my diary, I appreciate it. <3
 
I don't know if it's helpful to you but... Despite being widespread laxative abuse for weightloss doesn't actually work, other than psychologically (feeling empty, "clean", redeemed). The taking-in-nutrients part of digestion mostly happens in the small intestine whereas laxatives normally act on the large intestine, which mainly just draws water out of the brew, reducing it to a firmer consistency before it leaves your body. So with laxatives you're still taking in pretty much the same amount of calories, you're just losing a lot more water (plus side-effects you probably already know).
 
Unfortunately I'm very aware of the fact laxatives don't make me take in more calories, it just flushes everything out quicker. It's very difficult to stop though because, as you mentioned, feeling "empty / clean" feels like heaven to me.
 
Sad to say I understand that. I have some allergies and my guts are quite sensitive so if I overeat on unhealthy stuff it often has a laxative effect and 90% of the misery is gone immediately. Of course I also get extremely hungry right afterwards so I guess that keeps me from seeing it as a solution. I hope you can find a way out of this :grouphug:
 
Hello. I just want to say I really hope you get through all of this. Im very sorry to hear about your loss.

It might sound silly but online support on forums like these can help a lot.

I think I have an story with BED myself. I know i have had some pretty bad episodes during the years. I was going to suggest a lower carb diet to maybe avoid cravings, but sometimes that also can provoque binging. Its a hard thing to deal with and needs tons of personal adjustments.

I also thought of suggesting having your main plan and maybe a second option for those days you might struggle. My first impression is that it looks a bit rigid. The second option works as a line on the sand, so to speak. Something to fall back into. Example for me it would be 1600, but I know I can fall back to 2500 or so to maintain. So I don't add more emotional pressure over it.

Those are just my thoughts. Definitely, keep going and good luck to you! :grouphug:
 
Hope you are doing ok and recovering from the incident on the bus... I empathize with everything you are going through, I have had many similar experiences and struggles. I'm not a rep or anything, but I REALLY recommend the "food alternative" Huel for smoothies... it has helped me in SO many ways with maintaining my calorie deficit and warding off binges (and purge by any form--lax, vomit, exercise). Hope to hear back from you here soon
 
So I have been off and away for a little bit, mainly just due to working a lot, but also not doing what I should be doing. Though I don't want to purge I keep bingeing, which is frustrating as the weight piles on. This morning my weight was 74,7kg (after lax kicked in).

I want to make an important change, which is to only go grocery shopping once a week. Up until last week I would go like 4-5 times a week. For all except dinner I would also want to try low carb. Having yogurts and fruits throughout the day while having something more savory for dinner. I discovered a new love for tangerines and I found out Campina has a low fat yogurt with mango or coconut flavor. I only take those to work right now to kind of force myself to eat more healthy. I also want to try to have a water bottle with me at all times. Right now my drinks are mainly coffee and sugarfree sodas. Also, I ordered a (quick&easy) HelloFresh box that I received yesterday! Will be cooking one of the meals with my dad today if his hospital appointment goes well. I unpacked it yesterday and it seemed so fun! There was one that involved a sort of homemade pizza, a quick curry and another rice-like dish I forgot the name of. Excited to cook tonight & will post pics!

Something else that's very exciting: I got kittens! I picked up 2 kittens after taking care of my co-workers kitten for two weeks. I instantly fell in love and knew I wanted to get my own. It's a black & brown tortie with white socks named Mocha, and a red kitten with white belly named Latte. They are the cutest! They aren't from the same litter but they do absolutely everything together. They always hang around me and play or sleep. Mocha loves cuddles a lot and will often come up to my chest for scritches. I'm having so much fun with them in the house & I'll make sure to post pics when I get home from work!

Oh, and I got accepted into uni for the upcoming school year, woohoo!

Food Diary - July 23rd 2019
Woke up: 5:00am
Shift: 6:00 - 15:00

Breakfast (8:00am): Approx 150g mango yogurt & coffee.

Lunch (10:15am) Approx 150g mango yogurt, tangerine, glass of ice tea & coffee.

Snack (12:45pm): Tangerine, glass of ice tea & coffee

Dinner (6:30pm): Large fries with mayo (I was okay with this, had a friend over).

Snack (12:00am): Some cotton candy (that I bought at a fair the other day).

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Food Diary - July 24th
Woke up: 6:00am
Shift: 6:00 - 15:00 (oops)

Breakfast (8:00am): Approx 100g of mango yogurt, tangerine & coffee.

Lunch (10:15am): Tangerine, tomato soup, glass of ice tea & coffee.

(Its 10:53am right now, will update later)
 
Food Diary - July 24th
Woke up: 6:00am
Shift: 6:00 - 15:00 (oops)

Breakfast (8:00am): Approx 100g of mango yogurt, tangerine & coffee.

Lunch (10:15am): Tangerine, tomato soup, glass of ice tea & coffee.

Snack (12:45pm): Tomato soup & coffee.

Dinner (6:00pm): Chinese noodles with veggies, chicken and satay sauce.

Snack (8:30pm): Leftover cotton candy.

Dad had a pretty intense hospital appointment so now he's coming over on friday instead.

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Food Plan -- July 25th
Wake up: 6:00am
Shift: 7:00 - 16:00

Breakfast (9:00am): Approx 150g vanilla yogurt, tangerine & coffee.

Lunch (11:15am): 2 crackers with chicken spread, tomato soup & coffee. If tired, glass of ice tea.

Snack (13:45): Tangerine, tomato soup & coffee.

Dinner: Simple spaghetti.

Snack: TBD

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Hey Yenna, like your kittens! I am not a real cat person, but my wife is and so we always have a cat, I do come to like them. I am more a dog person, we have 2 dogs, but our cat rules the house, she can really boss the dogs around.

I like how you are recording and posting your food everyday, is that helping you not to binge? It sure helps me not to, I still want to binge a lot, but have not since starting this diet and knowing that I have to write it down is part of what stops me.

I am no expert on purging or laxative use, but it seems to me that right now that could be a bigger health problem for you than weight. 75 kg is probably a little to heavy for you, your 60 kg goal seems good, but 75 kg is not likely immediately threatening to your health. Might it help you to post, along with your food, how much laxative you take in a day, or if you purge? Just a suggestion from someone with no expertise at all, you are welcome to take it with as many grains of salt as you like.

Keep on posting, hopefully it is helpful for you, and it is good for us to read about others both their successes and challenges.
 
I'm going to need to do things differently.

I keep gaining weight trying not to binge/purge. Dealing with BED is difficult when you're trying not to use lax, or throw up. I know I can deal pretty well on a schedule. For this reason I'm going to pre-order all my groceries online, and have them deliver to my house (so I don't have to go to the grocery store every day and buy more crap). I know exactly how much money I can spend on food, and I'm hoping this is going to prevent me from overspending and being late on more & more bills like I always do. I wanna work out a daily eating schedule around the food I order. I'm going to do this right now, so when I notice I'm missing anything I can still add it to my order. The only thing I will go to the grocery store for is bread, meat, fruit & dairy because obviously I can't order those for a full month.
Besides that, I'm probably going to see a psychiatrist to get checked out for Schizoid Personality Disorder.

Current Grocery List (+ are late additions)
7 bananas
16 apples
1 Galia melon
Coffee milk
Black coffee
Green beans
Carrots
Premade stamppot (potatoes mashed with veggies)
Premade lasagna
Premade sate ajam
Premade babi pangang
Pizza baguettes salami
4 Meat buns chicken
4 Meat buns beef
Slices of cheese (2x 300g)
Canned tomato soup
Cup Instant noodles shrimp
2x Instant noodles soy
2x Instant noodles garlic chicken
2x Instant noodles spicy meat
5x Instant noodles japanese chicken
2x Instant noodles shrimp
2x Instant noodles kimchi
2x Instant noodles duck
2x Instant noodles beef
3x Instant noodles Shrimp
Instant soup tomato
Slices grilled meat
8 oven buns
1kg premade chinese noodles
+ 2x Low fat yogurt with mango
+ Spaghetti
+ Spaghetti sauce
+ Minced meat
+ Cauliflower rice
+ Red curry
+ Coconut milk
+ Spinach

I realize this is an excessive amount of instant noodles and premade meals. I know these are unhealthy, but there are 2 reasons I decide to order these over healthy ingredients: convenience and money. Christmas is near and my current financial situation doesn't allow me to save money properly. I should have €200 to buy food with every month, but I've had to take my kittens to the vet a couple of times over the past few weeks due to castration / sterilization and both wounds getting infected. I also cannot go to the dentist though I know I should, just because I can't afford it. I would still like to purchase nice Christmas presents for my family, hence why I'm trying to cut down this way. I might chance the order though, as this was based on products being on sale, but I just noticed the site took the sale off for online orders (tf?). The noodles were one of the products on sale, but they're about €0,50 each so I might get them anyway.

Small updates: Kitties are doing fine but their wounds got infected. Mochas wounds are all healed up but Latte needs another week of antibiotics. My aunt passed away at 58 years old, most likely due to a very unexpected heart attack. She was cremated a few weeks ago. Doing well in school, I thought I was going to dislike the subject Dutch but it turns out to be one of my favorite subjects so far due to it being so easy for me. I often need a coffee from there though, with them being €1,90 at a time I should probably invest in a coffee machine at some point.

Example of a scheduled food diary:
Sunday Dec 1st (delivery would be Nov 30th)
Probably going to wake up at about 12:00.

13:00 - 1 banana, 1 oven bun with cheese, a coffee with milk
15:00 - 1 banana, tangerine, apple or slice of Galia melon, 100g of yogurt
18:00 - 200g cauliflower rice with coconut milk, red curry and 200g spinach
20:00 - 1 banana, tangerine, apple or slice of Galia melon
22:00 - a cup a soup or broth

Calorie goal: Anywhere between 750 and 1500.

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Hey Yenna, good to see you posting again.

I don't see anything wrong with your grocery list, except that it is a bit light on fresh veggies. Are fresh veggies expensive where you are? I also like your plan, sounds reasonable and thought out to me. I should warn you I am no expert on these matters, just know what I've learned by experience.

I have been spending time thinking about my bingeing, it has been under control for a few months, but I binged regularly for many years, and still have urges all the time. It is a really hard thing to deal with, but I guess we just have to. I suppose I have BED, but I had never heard the term until I joined this forum. We have a new thread for people who are trying not to binge or purge, you might want to check it out https://weight-loss.fitness.com/threads/no-binge-no-purge-one-day-at-at-time.111089/page-17.

Don't put that dentist visit off too long, teeth are important.

Nice kitty pictures! We have an old cat, 14 years I think. She is one of the meanest cats I have ever known, no vet will see her and the neighborhood dogs stay well away from our house. We have 2 dogs and she tolerates them, but keeps them intimidated.
 
Gonna pick up some batteries for my scale. I hope I'm still around 75kg but I think 77-78 is more realistic. Also gonna pick up those instant noodles from the actual store, they should still be on sale there. Havent been able to weigh myself in approx. 2 - 3 weeks.
 
..., with this choreography at the top of my list.
it is disappointing to see autotune vocals are not only pervasive, but becoming dominant in popular music today. i admire dancers. it is a talent i do not possess and to which many others who think they do, should confess the same. but i do play music and as long as it doesn't stretch my range, i also sing, in tune, without electronic aid. probably the saddest comment to the pop music audience is to know how unaware they are. there are still great garage bands out there with talent; unfortunately it is only musical talent. if you can dance and are attractive, there is no need to hit the right note... that can be fixed, even in real time.
 
So how did your day go? What did the scale tell you?

It told me 76,8kg (169lbs), so somewhat like I expected. However, I didn't actually expect to still be in the 76 range. This morning (after laxatives kicked in et cetera) I weighed 76,3. Yesterday was actually quite difficult for me. A friend (calling her J) came out to me as transgender (M>F). It's the second time, one of my other friends (F) already transitioned from male to female and she's also had the surgery. So I was talking to J about clothing, and how I'd help her shop et cetera. She told me she bought a skirt that didn't fit her and asked me if I'd like to have it. Now my hips are way wider than hers and if they didn't fit her they'd never fit on me. I have this other skirt I never really wore because it's a leather-ish material which shows every curve. Even when I weighed 60kg I could still see a little of my stomach in it, so I'd never wear it. I wanted to try it on, take a picture for her and ask her if she'd like to have it (she's super skinny with a super flat stomach). However, once I tried it on I noticed I couldn't get it over my rear area. The skirt that looked sorta-semi-good on me now didn't even fit me at all. It was a pretty harsh wake-up call as I thought of myself as just as fat when I was 60kg.

Kinda struggling today. I walked a few thousand steps around my apartment while watching a show on Netflix, and I'm very hesitant about eating again. I feel as if I should purge foods that I can easily purge, but I don't wish to get back into the habit of purging.

It's currently 6:22pm and this is what I have eaten so far, I'm not sure what I'll have tonight, but it can't be anything solid or heavy since I already took laxatives today..

Sunday November 24th
Woke up around 12:00.

13:00 - Oregano bread (355) with cheese (175), coffee (90)
15:00 - Banana (85), coffee (90)
17:00 - Approx. 10 pieces of licorice (162)

Total so far: 957
Might have some noodles, I'm not sure yet. I bought a crap ton from an Asian supermarket nearby in a lot of interesting flavors. Right ones are from a regular grocery store, left ones are the Asian ones.

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