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What does your diet look like right now? You say you are at 34% how is that measured? Machine or calipers? I mean the old school kind with a spring.

What does you gym routine look like?

If you can afford it and don't already have them get a rice cooker with a built in steamer on top, a quality blender, hot air popcorn popper, and a crock pot! this makes preparing meals SO FAST!
 
Diet right now.. I eat I believe between 1500-2000 cal every day...

Usually breakfast is 1 cup of granola and 1/2 cup 2% milk or 1 cup cottage cheese and 1/2 cup pinapple

snack is 1 piece of fruit (I've been digging peaches and nectarines lately since they're in season) and a sometimes if I'm still hungry a luna cookie

lunch is left overs from previous nights dinner.. Usually anywhere from 2-3 cups of steamed veggies and 3 ounces of whatever meat we had. Usually pork chops, ham steak, beef steak, or chicken breasts. Sometimes I'll eat 1/2 cup mac n cheese.. we always have that since my daughter and hubby won't eat hardly any veggies.

next snack is usually a luna bar if I hadn't eaten one already or sometimes I eat 1 serving of wheat thins.

Dinner is usually 1 cup veggies 1/2 cup mac n cheese or rice, and 3-4 ouces meat. I eat alot at dinner usually because its post work out. And I always do some running around after dinner with my 4 yr old. For dessert sometimes I'll have a single serving of ice cream (yes! I can actually do this! lol many people cannot but I have managed self control thus far).. ooor I'll have a pudding cup. Dessert isn't always a must have though and usually I skip it.

Workouts are getting an overhaul this weekend though from my hubby. I have been doing the gym 3x a week.. but the routine was TOO routine and also not tough enough. This week I took off after suffering from a couple of migranes (I gotta drop caffine since its a trigger) :(
 
I know we are going back and forth from PMs to this =). This reason I started the thread is that I am not allowed to PM yet except for replying.

Okay before I go on, I want to ask you when you think of 2% milk what do you think that 2% means? Be completely honest. I know you choose 2% over whole milk but why?
 
I drink 2% honestly because its just what I've drank my entire life. I've never put a bunch of thought into why I drink it really. Also I have to confess that I'm just not a big milk person. The only time I drink milk is when I eat a bunch of cookies (which I haven't done in a few months), or just a tiny bit with cereal. I prolly have a calcium deficiency now that I think about it. :doh:
 
I'll post here so we don't have to keep looking in 15 different places

you asked "That brings me to another question, are you a gymnast? Have you ever been? Because Ms. Fitness is all about those crazy ass jumping around flipping kind of routines or would you want to do more figure? "

No I've never been a gymnast but I its definitly been something I've thought about for sure. I want to be able to get in there and do a crazy routine like any other lady in Ms. Fitness would do..another reason I consider it a long term goal! lol

Also my husband as a trainer, contradicts already what alot of trainers train too. He has always trained to a specific goal--his personally--he played professional amer. football in europe. So he needed to get as big as possible but still be quick on his feet. Also he has trained a lady for the figure competitions before so while some of the stuff might contradict it I think he might be well aware of some of the stuff thats out there already. (not that I'm saying he'll agree with 100% of it.. because I already know he won't.)
 
fatty_doll said:
I drink 2% honestly because its just what I've drank my entire life. I've never put a bunch of thought into why I drink it really. Also I have to confess that I'm just not a big milk person. The only time I drink milk is when I eat a bunch of cookies (which I haven't done in a few months), or just a tiny bit with cereal. I prolly have a calcium deficiency now that I think about it. :doh:
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Okay well I expected a different answer, but that actually touches on how we are taught to eat as well growing up. I am pissed as an adult that my parents never really taught nutrition I guess you could say. I got fat because I did not know a thing about food. Both my parents grew up in the deep south so there was a lot of soul food at the table. Some people say "well they just did what their parents did so they did not know" well I call bullshit because now that I am adult I know that nutrition is SO IMPORTANT how come they did not take the time to care about it. My kid will always eat nutritiously and then the occasional treat.

Anyway back on the milk. Most people will switch from whole milk to 2% because they think it is a healthier choice when trying to make better decisions and as well as they can't fathom the thought of skim milk (we call this brain lock - refusal to be open minded and creative)

Most people see the label and all over it says 2% milk and people (myself included) take this to mean 2% fat. I also think some labels say 2% fat or REDUCED FAT but see below:

Whole milk:
147 calories per serving - 72 of those calories are fat = 51% fat!

2% milk:
123 calories per serving - 45 of those calories are from fat = 37% fat

Now how can they say 2% fat on that carton?????? It's clearly 37%!

Well first of all he USDA and the FDA have to completely different standards when it comes to labels. The 2% you see is milkfat. So out of all the fat that is that milk all 37% of it, 2% of it is milkfat.

Whole milk has 3.25% milkfat in all the fat that it has. So on the big scheme of stuff 24 calories is not that big of a deal and who the hell gives a shit about milkfat?????

You have to learn to look at food in whole different way. You can no longer look at the front of a product and see something that is 95% fat free and then go with that. You have to read the label (and learn HOW to read that label)

YOu know you mention tuna in your diet. We all think (especially bodybuilders) think canned tuna in water is great. Would you EVER buy the tuna in oil? NO! why would we do that? Did you know that 5-7 months out of the year tuna migrate and then they spawn and during the process they faten up to something like 30%??? So you can go buy canned tuna at this time of the year and it be WORSE than the tuna in oil fat wise??? However you would never know from how the product looks. YOu will have to look at the label. How many of us grab canned tuna in water and think that is always high protein low fat?
 
Okay so since you are getting your meter and you are not a person who freaks over the scale and you seem to have some wits about ya! =)


Do this for a while, and don't measure obsessively! I get measures every three weeks. I weight quite a lot but I am not obsessive over the scale. It does not depress me or discourage me to not have it move. It's more fun for me not to see it move and the nice big suprise when I measure in.

When buying food, look at the calories per serving and then the fat calories per serving and do not purchase anything that is over 20%. An easy way to do this is move your decimal point in your head. If something has 150 calories per serving then move your decimal point from the end over one so then 10% of the fat calories would 15 and then double that, so the most fat calories you would be able to have out of that 150 would be 30 calories. Anymore than that NEXT!

This will cut down tremendously on things to eat. The only red meat I have found is ground beef by Springer Hill at Randall's however I think you can order online. This also gets rid of whole eggs. So time to get creative. I can send you some awesome recipes. You can ever make an awesome mac and cheese.

Buy a bunch of Myoplex Lite shakes! I hate eating breakfast until I have settled down at work, so I chug one of these every morning. I also think you can catch some awesome coupons on these from Ebay. I can show you how. They are not cheap!

So use this example from my day but of course the times might differ but you get the point, just change the times =

6:30AM - Myoplex shake (if you like to eat in the AM then switch it around with #2)
9:30AM - 5 egg whites (multiple recipes YOU MUST GET CREATIVE), 1 serving carbs
12:30PM - 5oz lean meat (20% rule) 1 serving carbs. Sometimes this is leftovers.
3:30PM - Same as lunch OR mini meal (ill show you) OR 1/2 sandwich and fruit
6:30PM - 5oz lean meat 1 serving carbs

Now creativity comes in a lot so this is not a boring thing to do. I am stuffed all the time and I eat great stuff. I had shrimp pasta with grilled cabbage last night. Mini meals are protein muffins, 1/2 sandwiches, and power protein puddings. It's a lot of food and as long as you love the challenge of creating different healthy meals for your family based on these guidelines then you got it made.

eat some dairy in the means of fat free cheeses, fat free sour cream (great thickening agent) fat free cottage cheese (sucks by itself but great in recipes) Don't give any thought to sodium unless you have blood pressure problems. Make that stuff taste real good.

Some of my staples:

Butter buds and Molly McButter
Mustard (there are about 1 million different gourmet mustard,check the labels though)
Curry
Madras spice
salt
pepper
garlic (fresh and powder)
Mrs. Dash
Onion powder
Chili powder
chili mix in the packet
every kind of fat free salsa in the world
Frank's Red Hot Sauce
Dried Ginger
Dried...fuck it dried EVERYTHING.

YOu get the point. I realize I have so many to list.

Don't be afraid to try different things. It makes it a lot of fun to try it with your partner too. We buy such random looking crap at the store and we are both so excited to try it. If it tastes funny then we sit around thinking of what could make it better then we try that and it goes on and on!

I just made a tilapia with an orange curry sauce that was to die for!
 
lol actually I don't buy canned tuna in oil because I don't like the slimy texture of the oil. But thats an excellent point, I'll have to give the cans a gander to see the difference.
 
hey actually those shakes aren't so bad in price...
from GNC
Regular Price: $49.99
Sale Price: $46.99
Gold Card Price: $37.59

We have a gold card for GNC so it comes out to 1.89USD a day. But tell me... how do they taste? I've had issues with shakes before. Are these standard shakes? Because I used to drink slimfast.. which are basic meal replacement ones chalked full of vitas and stuff.. but I don't know if there's a difference between these and myoplex lite. I guess I'll have to look at labels.. which I can't find any online.. whew you'd think while I'm sitting here at work I would be working--but apparently not so much.
 
I buy them prepackaged in 4 packs. You can buy the bag but I don't like the taste as much. I like the a lot!!! pre packaged of course. Same concept.
 
I forgot to mention sugars LIMIT THEM to nill. I eat two serving of fruits a day! That's it.

Also as we speak I am sitting at a bar drinking beer. Why? Because I felt that I needed it. Don't let yourself get too involved with all that. Just know that once a week isn't bad and when you do go out to eat make a better bad choice. Ask for not butter or oil, get corn tortillas without oil versus flour. Get chicken instead of beef and so on. So many restaurants nowadays have learned to do things like that.

Funny though, one of my passions is food. I love it so much. Some people spend a lot of money of fixing cars, competing in bodybuilding, knitting, hell I don't know, but I spend my money on restaurants. I don't mean chains I mean top rated places like Chef Ramsay type places. I have been known to spend 400 bucks on a single meal anyway the only places that I have found to totally adhere to my needs to be healthy are chains. Two in particular. Red Lobster and Outback Steakhouse.
 
Ish! I give a certain amount to fiber and that amount is the two fruits I have in the AM. Fruit (whether natural or not) is a lot of sugar. Basically my two fruits of the day I consider them to be my fiber intake but anything after that I add to my sugar content. I stay under 40 grams of sugar a day. Don't get me wrong sometimes I go over that but for the most part I complete them under control.

I will tell you that I play around with tha number because one thing I have always loved and used to acually be a downfall was my two glasses of wine a night. I loved my evening cocktails but it was not getting me anywhere.

I actually have a huge binder full of recipes that I made. Down to the calorie count and even macro balance of each meal and on each each it has the macro balance and calories of my two glasses of wine. I would spend all day cooking meals,and measuring all the ingredients that went it, and then measuring how many cups or whatever it made =)

Back on point. I enjoy a non-alcoholic beer or every other night or so! So I give up the fruit sometimes to add those in.
 
Steve,
Also please remember that I am not advocating this as a "let's all live healthy lifestyle" approach as some of my other posts might make it seem. This is results after results oriented. I am not saying fruits are unhealthy at all.

Also there is nothing unhealthy by only eating fruit twice a day you know. =)
 
I was just trying to think of ways to make those 5 egg whites.. maybe make an egg white salad and instead of using mayo use plain yogurt? Mix it with some chopped up celary and other goodies?. hrrrm
 
Well if you go along with the 20% rule the only mayo you can use is fat free which is completely fine.

Couple of examples.


Microwave scrambled eggs.

5 egg whites (I use the cartons) in a microwave safe bowl. Not too deep. Pour in dried minced onions and garlic powder. Microwave on high for about 2 minutes. Learn the way your microwave works and whether or not you like them soft or hard. take a fork and scramble them all up.

Same as above but add just about any freaking veggie you can imagine and make and omelette.

Same as above and sprinkle any kind of fat free cheese you can find.

I just mastered thanks to a friend the art of an actual omlette. The key is a small sized non stick skillit and make the eggs thin!! and cook you add ins in a different skillit. Add you stuff once the egg has firmed and then flip. I need to make a youtube video!

Oh and I also add eggbeaters to a fruit sorbet as a thinning agent. I take frozen fruit and put it, 5 egg whites, a little fat free half and half in a food processor and then I make a sorbet.
 
Speaking of YouTube, Steve I just saw the salad dressing video on your site and I love it. I make all of my dressing with ACV. I have about 100 of different dressings. My favorite is that I take the Italian dressing packages, you know the Good Seasonings that come with their own shaker bottle. Well I mix those with vinegar and instead of the oil I use water (vice versa the directions of oil and water with vinegar)

It doesn't need to be in the fridge so we keep some in our purses all the time so when we go out to eat we have some.
 
Guess Who said:
Steve,
Also please remember that I am not advocating this as a "let's all live healthy lifestyle" approach as some of my other posts might make it seem. This is results after results oriented. I am not saying fruits are unhealthy at all.

Also there is nothing unhealthy by only eating fruit twice a day you know. =)
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I don't care much about your results oriented viewpoint.

I have results too. But I back them with a logical and critical assessment of the available science.

Results-oriented approaches include a lot of guess work. Sure, you might have the results to show in the end, but there's a lot of guessing as to what specifically caused those results.

And that's fine, for those who are solely interested in results.

But if you're going to put yourself out there in a position of authority on the subject matter... you should really have a working knowledge of why said results occurred and that's where science comes into play.

This said, why do you feel it necessary to keep sugar so low?

Edit: Please note - I know nothing about you. I'm just not one to respect someone's word just b/c they got results. I'm big on the integrity of information and science. So this isn't an attack on you at all. I'm just trying to figure out where you're coming from with your recommendations and ideally, that angle is backed with more than "results."
 
Steve said:
I don't care much about your results oriented viewpoint.

I have results too. But I back them with a logical and critical assessment of the available science.

Results-oriented approaches include a lot of guess work. Sure, you might have the results to show in the end, but there's a lot of guessing as to what specifically caused those results.

And that's fine, for those who are solely interested in results.

But if you're going to put yourself out there in a position of authority on the subject matter... you should really have a working knowledge of why said results occurred and that's where science comes into play.

This said, why do you feel it necessary to keep sugar so low?

Edit: Please note - I know nothing about you. I'm just not one to respect someone's word just b/c they got results. I'm big on the integrity of information and science. So this isn't an attack on you at all. I'm just trying to figure out where you're coming from with your recommendations and ideally, that angle is backed with more than "results."
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You know, I have really tried to redeem myself from what I made myself look like on posts before this and you asked me question and I answered. You know, as contrary as to what you might think, I am not an idiot. On the other hand, I have known people who can study out of a series of study materials and have no educational background on the issue and become a personal trainer. I believe training expertise and nutrition expertise are seperate unless you are more than qualified in both.

So by saying that you don't give me any credability based on results, then let's say that I have a master's degree in nutrition and I have done some substantial studies and posted them out on the web with say SOME OTHER folks who have seen results from my work, but yet I weight about 450 pounds then you would be more inclined to listen to a little more of what I say? And maybe actually sincere when you ask a question?

You also say for people who are solely interested in results. Do you think people are really on this board for different reasons than results? I think that might be why people are shelling out money for what in my opinion is crap! Anyone on this board who wants to continue to be 300lbs but they just want to get healthy and they do not have fat loss as a main goal, please show yourself.

It's pretty much proven in science that there is a gluclose threshold when you think of the "shuttle" (I hope you know what the shuttle is) any excess gluclose (please don't mention the difference between gluclose and fructose. Inthe scheme of things they are the same unless you are say maybe a scientist then you may want to check out this website ) will be shuttled away from the muscles (this is a part of the whole protein synthisis) and into adipose tissue i.e BODYFAT and that is my backing of why I limit my sugar intake.
 
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