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Distraction's better than pure willpower. I was tempted by a box of chocolates a patients brought me yoday. I did end up having some but brought most of it to the kitchen for other people to eat. That one doughnut on Tuesday seems to have weakened my resolve on the sweets front.
 
LaMaria said:
That one doughnut on Tuesday seems to have weakened my resolve on the sweets front.
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Amazing how that works. It is one of my fears, once I start down the slippery slope it is real hard to turn back. I know "normal" people can have the occasional large meal or desert or something and not be tempted to do it again right away. Not sure I will ever be able to do that. Good for you giving most of the chocolate away, sounds like you never got too far off track. And one donut is not huge.

No binge here today, but it was a busy day lots of distractions to help curb the urges. I am hoping this new diet helps too, but I think it is too soon to know. My experience is the urges come and go so it takes a while to sort progress out from the noise.

Lets not binge tomorrow.
 
Agree on the signal and noise thing. If your normal swings are 10 pounds and anything between terrible cravings and hardly any it's going to take a while.
 
Thanks LaMa, I am beginning to think that the new diet is helping with the urges, not gone but less the past few days. However I have felt that way before, it will take a while to know much for sure. But so far so good.

No binge here today, and the urges were not bad, manageable for sure.

Let's not binge tomorrow!
 
Watch you become a world-renowned diet expert, trying every diet out there for 2 months each just to have the variation to keep you from wanting to binge :rotflmao:
 
LaMaria said:
Watch you become a world-renowned diet expert, trying every diet out there for 2 months each just to have the variation to keep you from wanting to binge
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Interesting idea, probably could sell it!

No binge here today, but as I sit doing this late post I want to. And that is right after eating a big celery and steak snack... However the urge is not so strong as to worry me, but it is there. It's interesting my nutritionist first told me to stop counting calories, but I told her that was probably a really bad idea for me. So we agreed that I would track the calories but not worry about them much, and that I would set a 2,500 calorie per day limit. In reality my calories are not up a whole lot, I just don't seem to need more. And I am a lot better at sorting out the need for food from the urges than I was.

Let's not binge tomorrow.
 
alligatorob said:
And I am a lot better at sorting out the need for food from the urges than I was.
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That's an extremely valuable skill. And I think having a calorie limit sets your mind at ease - like me setting an alarm for a time I'm usually always awake anyway just to make sure I don't lie awake worrying I might oversleep. The fact that you don't feel the desire to go over your limit sounds like a point in the nurse's favor.
 
Thanks LaMa, and I am beginning to think you are right. I have not had any real strong urges since starting the new diet, but it is still too soon to be sure of anything. We'll see.

No binge today and no strong urges, a good day.

Let's not binge tomorrow.
 
No binge today, I did have a calorie counting issue and probably ate more than I counted. But not a binge. No strong urges so all is well.

Let's not binge tomorrow.
 
Thanks LaMa, I know so long as we try the calorie counting things average out in the long run.

I found an actual therapist who specializes in (among other things) binge eating disorder and had a first session with him. I liked the guy, but am not sure what, if anything he can do for me. In a nutshell his emphasis is trying to find ways to stop people from bingeing, I think I may be his first client who has already "stopped" bingeing. He said it sounded to him like my eating large portions of veggies and low cal foods made sense, he would not change that. He said the nutritionist would be more help with that. We went in circles for a long time on a couple of issues, he was very insistent that I must have triggers and he also wants to try and find something in my childhood that started all this.

I told him several times that I do not believe I have triggers, I can and want to binge all the time, or most of it. Happy, sad, tired, energetic, nothing makes much difference. I also told him that this behavior goes back as far as I can remember, in fact my mother told me to birth. She said at my first visit to a doctor he was concerned about my weight and they discussed my wanting to eat, or suckle or whatever it was then too much. And it has continued since. Anyway that did not fit his model very well... He said that given what I had told him it was unlikely that my binge cravings would ever go away, but that I needed to find a way to live with them. He was very complementary of what I have done and am doing, but to be honest that was not very comforting.

At the end he asked me to think hard about the trigger thing and see if there was anything to it, and then come back if I though he could help. That is where we left it. As I said I did like him, and really appreciated his honesty. However I don't know if I will go back to him or not, have to think that one through... Don't want to be wasting his time or mine.

This is a link to his introductory youtube video. He is of native Hawaiian ancestry, but is now here in Utah, an interesting guy.
 
Good for you finding an experienced therapist! I am starting to lean more and more toward something being different in your endocrinology, especially if you've been this overly hungry since birth. Which begs the question: are the urges strong/disruptive enough that you'd be willing to take medication for them or do you prefer to deal with them naturally? If the latter there's not much use in finding a specialized doctor but if ever you decide it's getting too tough the option does exist and there would be no shame in exploring it further.
 
LaMaria said:
are the urges strong/disruptive enough that you'd be willing to take medication for them or do you prefer to deal with them naturally?
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I sure would rather not take medication, don't like that idea at all. However, if it were to come to a choice between drugs and getting fat again, I would seriously consider the drugs. At this point it is not that bad, and I would have no idea what drugs to take anyway. What kind of a doctor might specialize in that kind of thing? Not ever sure where to start. However I do think your thoughts about my endocrinology may make sense... kind of fits my symptoms (said the guy with zero medial expertise).

No binge here today, too busy and worried about other health issues. In fact I found it hard to get enough calories today.

Let's not binge tomorrow!
 
Someone who specializes in obesity medicine? Like your therapist they'd probably be surprised to be dealing with someone who's no longer obese but I can't imagine they'd object.
The title is clickbaity and I may have shared this link before but Dr Nadolsky is an example of a doctor who specializes in that kind of stuff and I'm pretty sure this is the video where he explains the medication options (as well as the basic lifestyle stuff).
 
Thanks LaMa, I have started some research to see if I can find such a doctor in our area. If nothing else, like the therapist, she or he might be interesting to talk with.

No binge here today and no real strong urges. I ate lunch in a nice Mexican restaurant and managed to pass on the chips (all but 2 small one anyway), the beans, the rice, and even the tortillas and just eat the mole I went for. It wasn't too hard. By the end of the day I almost had to force myself to eat to get my calories up. I don't want to lose any more weight... I hope this is a real change, but to be honest I can remember feeling this way a few times even when I was on the very low calorie diet. Unfortunately it didn't last then, so who knows this time.

Let's not binge tomorrow.
 
Hey LaMa, mole was the reason I was there! Not the other stuff, I did eat it with the turkey, and only what stuck to the turkey. People tend to eat mole more with chicken than turkey, but the turkey is the native American bird and what the pre-Columbians had, not chicken. So I always go traditional, besides I like turkey and it is a bit lower cal than chicken.

No binge here today, for a part of the day my stomach was acting up so I ate less and fewer veggies than usual. Now I know the stomach trouble I had today was like hernia related, didn't make it feel any better but knowing the cause and what I am going to do about it made it less worrisome. However I got better and this evening I sure would like to keep on eating, I know my calories would allow it, but don't want to push the stomach, so I am resisting. I get urges no matter what the condition of my gut, and historically I have binged even when feeling quite sick.

Let's not binge tomorrow.
 
LaMa, I don't think the surgery will fix everything, but I am optimistic it will help. Since I discovered the hernia (the bigger one) and the doctor said I should push it back in I think I have figured a lot out. When I have a gas or high volume food thing in the intestine it pushes out through the hernia. When that happens it hurts and my digestion is probably interfered with by constriction of the intestine. When all that passes it relaxes and goes back in. Pushing it accelerates the process a bit. Sometimes pushing it in gives me rapid relief from the discomfort. Once fixed it should stay in all the time. In the meantime there is some comfort in understanding more about what's going on, and as I say I have some control and can partially fix it. Sorry if all that is more than y'all wanted to know about my digestion and belly problems...

No binge here today, in fact again I had to find more to eat to bring my calories up to my lower limit.

Let's not binge tomorrow.
 
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