shygemini
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Thanks. I'm glad you approve.
You will be missed! It would have been fun being on a team with you.
Thanks Jana
They just haven't worked out well for me in the past unfortunately.Weight-Loss LAST DAY TO JOIN 6 WK CHALLENGE!!! (previously the august 6wk challenge sign up)
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Thanks Jana
They just haven't worked out well for me in the past unfortunately.
BikiniBound2011
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This will be my first challenge, so I'm not sure how these things normally go. I, like many others, am just looking for an additional way to motivate myself for the next month. That being said, I think the ideas being thrown about are excellent ones. The point system sounds good to me, and I wouldn't mind limiting the pounds lost because I am only shooting for 2 pounds a week myself.
knyt
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I'm so up for this cause I screwed up this month and I'm only getting back into it now. I have a solution to the limiting thing. I think the point system is great. What if we limit it to 2 lbs (so you'd get 2 points) but also if you lost anything more than that you get an extra point. So if you lost 3 or 4 lbs you still get 1 point extra. It's incentive to lose more without putting pressure.
We could do the same with the exercise as well if you wanted.
I think teams is a great idea though. I'm definitely in!
moodringgrl
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Knyt---I know what you mean on the 30 day shred. I did the first 2 days and by the 3rd I had to sit out because my legs were killing me. I finally made it to day 3 today. It seems like it is getting a little easier but I still can't do a darn push-up( not even the cheat one.)
Size32someday Thanks I'm starting to get a little excited thinking I may soon be out of the ugly 200's soon. I still find it hard to believe that when I first weighed myself on May 27th that I was 260LBS. It hasn't been a totally easy road I curse the threadmill everytime I get on that thing.
Size32someday Thanks I'm starting to get a little excited thinking I may soon be out of the ugly 200's soon. I still find it hard to believe that when I first weighed myself on May 27th that I was 260LBS. It hasn't been a totally easy road I curse the threadmill everytime I get on that thing.
Korrie
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See....but one of the members thought that by encouraging a bigger loss than 2lbs a week, we'd be suggesting something that wasn't healthy...because its not really healthy to lose more than 2lbs a week.
Here, I'll try to put up a poll and see what everyone thinks. THe 1st is on sunday...everyone...so we need to get this figured out and wrapped up real quick!! OK POLL IS UP!!! VOTE!!!
See....but one of the members thought that by encouraging a bigger loss than 2lbs a week, we'd be suggesting something that wasn't healthy...because its not really healthy to lose more than 2lbs a week.
Here, I'll try to put up a poll and see what everyone thinks. THe 1st is on sunday...everyone...so we need to get this figured out and wrapped up real quick!! OK POLL IS UP!!! VOTE!!!
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Korrie
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So far the concensus is that we DO have teams and we DO have a point system. 1 point for every lb lost and 1 pt for every HOUR of excersize completed.
I am ALSO going to throw in mini challenges for points as well. These mini challenges often seem to help a long term challenge seem less boring. It keeps the momentum going. (examples of mini challenges are "drink 1/2 your weight in oz" or "eat 4 servings of fruits and veggies a day" and they only last a week at a time)
I am ALSO going to throw in mini challenges for points as well. These mini challenges often seem to help a long term challenge seem less boring. It keeps the momentum going. (examples of mini challenges are "drink 1/2 your weight in oz" or "eat 4 servings of fruits and veggies a day" and they only last a week at a time)
moodringgrl
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Either way is fine with me. I know I have been having higher weekly loses but honestly I don't set out for it that way. In 2 months iv'e went from a person who ate out at fast food places 5 days a week to not at all. I also used to drink reg. coke at least 2 times a day now I drink nothing but water. I'm sure my body is in some kind of shock from all the crap I used to put into it to not having it at all. Oh and exercise I don't think I even knew what that was anymore. Now I work out everyday. Not that i'm going to complain but I'm sure my numbers will slow down. The poll was hard for me because I'm fine with either option, but you had to pick one or the other. Oh and I guess I will have to figure out my exercise as well I don't count time I count miles except for the 30 day shred thats 20 minutes.
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MAR1984
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Hey Korrie, I didn't want to make it too complicated or limit weight loss per se.
For example, I could go with losing 2lbs per week for 6 weeks and set a goal to lose 12 lbs, or I could go with losing 1% and lose over 20lbs in 6 weeks, or maybe I would try Lyle McDonald's Rapid Fat Loss Handbook for these 6 weeks and lose 30? lbs or more? Regardless of which goal I hit, I would consider myself winning equaly - if I plan to lose 12 lbs and lose 12lbs, perfect. If I plan to lose 20 and lose 20, also perfect. If I plan to lose 12, but instead lose 20, thats not good because I didn't execute a proper plan to hit my goal.
Just trying to get out of the "lose as much as possible in any given timeframe" mindset and into a "pick an attainable goal and try to reach THAT goal" mindset. Thats why I suggested letting teams and individuals set their own goal, rather than enforce a 2lb or 1% rule or any other rule.
I also think about the july challenge - not criticizing, but some people ~200lbs or less losing >15lbs in a month - great result and great committment - but nearly double the rate of weight loss I would be going for were I 200lbs right now. Thats not to say its wrong for them, but I don't feel like I would lose or do worse than that person if my goal was to lose 10lbs, and I lost 10lbs. If I went by the 1% rule, I would have set a goal to lose 14lbs in july. A 200lb individual losing 15lbs or ~2% would be as if I lost 28lbs in July instead of 14 - I would have been mortified to lose that much so quickly. I would have been seriously depriving my body of calories to do it (think: 3000+ calorie per day defecit), and I'd be horrified at thinking about all the muscle mass I destroyed. If I followed a plan like The Rapid Fat Loss Handbook or something, then maybe its ok if I followed the plan to conserve muscle mass. But just doing it by accident if I only planned to lose half that, would not be good for me.
I don't know, maybe some people really do feel they do better if they try to lose as much as possible in any given time, and maybe those people would feel like they were holding back if they set a goal and weren't allowed to exceed it even if they felt they could. So maye this idea doesn't resonate well with everyone right now, and thats ok.
Regarding the points for hours of exercise, well someone who lifts weights for 45minutes 3x per week, and does HIIT for 20min 2x per week, and rests on the weekend, only has just shy of 3 hours of exercise in a week, but that doesn't mean they're trying less or putting out less effort than someone who might walk 2 hours a day 7 days a week for 14 total hours. When adding exercise to the challenge was brought up, the intent was to measure effort even if the results weren't there. All I'm trying to get at is, it doesn't seem hours spent exercising is necessarily the best measure of effort.
I hope I'm not giving off the impression that I'm just whining that its unfair or anything like that. For me, the challenges have never been about winning, but rather about accountability, support, and encouragement. I've always considered myself as winning if I met my own personal goals, even if someone else has lost more weight than me. I guess if this challenge is going to be more about winning, it might not be fair to the team I would be on, since I'm not going to change whats already working for me just to try to accumulate the most points. I'd gladly be a part of the challenge if a team would have me for the support and encouragement and accountability, but I just wouldn't be too concerned with winning as currently defined.
Pre-emptive edit: I don't know why this just popped into my head, but anyone watch the show "Deadliest Catch" on the discovery channel? Well the idea about setting goals and sticking to them and not trying to lose more than that is sort of like how the crab boats work with their crab quotas - each boat has a quota for lbs of crab, if they catch less than their quota, they don't get their full payment, but if they catch more than their quota, they get fined for going over. Bigger boats might have bigger quotas, and smaller boats less, but as long as each boat brings in their own quota, no more or less, they get paid what they were promised, and everyone wins.
For example, I could go with losing 2lbs per week for 6 weeks and set a goal to lose 12 lbs, or I could go with losing 1% and lose over 20lbs in 6 weeks, or maybe I would try Lyle McDonald's Rapid Fat Loss Handbook for these 6 weeks and lose 30? lbs or more? Regardless of which goal I hit, I would consider myself winning equaly - if I plan to lose 12 lbs and lose 12lbs, perfect. If I plan to lose 20 and lose 20, also perfect. If I plan to lose 12, but instead lose 20, thats not good because I didn't execute a proper plan to hit my goal.
Just trying to get out of the "lose as much as possible in any given timeframe" mindset and into a "pick an attainable goal and try to reach THAT goal" mindset. Thats why I suggested letting teams and individuals set their own goal, rather than enforce a 2lb or 1% rule or any other rule.
I also think about the july challenge - not criticizing, but some people ~200lbs or less losing >15lbs in a month - great result and great committment - but nearly double the rate of weight loss I would be going for were I 200lbs right now. Thats not to say its wrong for them, but I don't feel like I would lose or do worse than that person if my goal was to lose 10lbs, and I lost 10lbs. If I went by the 1% rule, I would have set a goal to lose 14lbs in july. A 200lb individual losing 15lbs or ~2% would be as if I lost 28lbs in July instead of 14 - I would have been mortified to lose that much so quickly. I would have been seriously depriving my body of calories to do it (think: 3000+ calorie per day defecit), and I'd be horrified at thinking about all the muscle mass I destroyed. If I followed a plan like The Rapid Fat Loss Handbook or something, then maybe its ok if I followed the plan to conserve muscle mass. But just doing it by accident if I only planned to lose half that, would not be good for me.
I don't know, maybe some people really do feel they do better if they try to lose as much as possible in any given time, and maybe those people would feel like they were holding back if they set a goal and weren't allowed to exceed it even if they felt they could. So maye this idea doesn't resonate well with everyone right now, and thats ok.
Regarding the points for hours of exercise, well someone who lifts weights for 45minutes 3x per week, and does HIIT for 20min 2x per week, and rests on the weekend, only has just shy of 3 hours of exercise in a week, but that doesn't mean they're trying less or putting out less effort than someone who might walk 2 hours a day 7 days a week for 14 total hours. When adding exercise to the challenge was brought up, the intent was to measure effort even if the results weren't there. All I'm trying to get at is, it doesn't seem hours spent exercising is necessarily the best measure of effort.
I hope I'm not giving off the impression that I'm just whining that its unfair or anything like that. For me, the challenges have never been about winning, but rather about accountability, support, and encouragement. I've always considered myself as winning if I met my own personal goals, even if someone else has lost more weight than me. I guess if this challenge is going to be more about winning, it might not be fair to the team I would be on, since I'm not going to change whats already working for me just to try to accumulate the most points. I'd gladly be a part of the challenge if a team would have me for the support and encouragement and accountability, but I just wouldn't be too concerned with winning as currently defined.
Pre-emptive edit: I don't know why this just popped into my head, but anyone watch the show "Deadliest Catch" on the discovery channel? Well the idea about setting goals and sticking to them and not trying to lose more than that is sort of like how the crab boats work with their crab quotas - each boat has a quota for lbs of crab, if they catch less than their quota, they don't get their full payment, but if they catch more than their quota, they get fined for going over. Bigger boats might have bigger quotas, and smaller boats less, but as long as each boat brings in their own quota, no more or less, they get paid what they were promised, and everyone wins.
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I think the points that Mar1984 and Korrie have made above are exactly right, how many of us have lost loads of weight in 2/3 weeks and then piled it all on again because we lost it too fast. Maybe this is about each individual being honest and setting themselves a weight loss goal, and then sum up the teams weightloss goal and that can be the aim, I'm still struggling to come up with a way to equate/reward exercising, but how about something very simple like , a team gets one point for each day that a person exercised (since we are all at different levels of fitness etc there's no way we could come up with a simple method of comparing what people did.
for example, my goal would be to lose 12 lbs over the next 6 weeks, and to exercise at least 4 days per weeks, whatever the exercise may be)
for example, my goal would be to lose 12 lbs over the next 6 weeks, and to exercise at least 4 days per weeks, whatever the exercise may be)
bluewonder
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I would love to do something with teams! What an added motivator!
I only expect to lose 5-6 pounds in August because I don't have a lot to lose - so not much of a team member if we're going by pounds lost...maybe we could calculate it as % of weight we WANT to lose rather than actual # of pounds, which promotes losing too much too fast?
I only expect to lose 5-6 pounds in August because I don't have a lot to lose - so not much of a team member if we're going by pounds lost...maybe we could calculate it as % of weight we WANT to lose rather than actual # of pounds, which promotes losing too much too fast?
Holly88
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I second what SK24 has said:
Each individual sets their weight loss target for the month, that's pooled together to make a team total and the team works towards reaching that total.
I guess you could even deduct points if a team goes OVER the total? So if they went over by 5 points they'd have that doubled and subtracted so they were 5 points under?
And then similarly every person sets a goal for the total number of days (or hours?) they want to exercise that month and again that's pooled to make a team total.
Then add everything together and whichever team is closest (by percent) to their team totals wins??
I was just rewording what SK24 said really :O)
Each individual sets their weight loss target for the month, that's pooled together to make a team total and the team works towards reaching that total.
I guess you could even deduct points if a team goes OVER the total? So if they went over by 5 points they'd have that doubled and subtracted so they were 5 points under?
And then similarly every person sets a goal for the total number of days (or hours?) they want to exercise that month and again that's pooled to make a team total.
Then add everything together and whichever team is closest (by percent) to their team totals wins??
I was just rewording what SK24 said really :O)
I think it's a brilliant idea to have a team goal, then deduct points for every pound over what would be classed as healthy.
Look at the weight of each team member, and decide what a suitable healthy weight loss in the month would be and make that the team goal, then for too much loss deduct some, however if it is only a slight amount over but still healthy it could get complicated... It'd take some thinking.
But.
This way we're still promoting healthy weightloss with the incentive of a challenge.
Look at the weight of each team member, and decide what a suitable healthy weight loss in the month would be and make that the team goal, then for too much loss deduct some, however if it is only a slight amount over but still healthy it could get complicated... It'd take some thinking.
But.
This way we're still promoting healthy weightloss with the incentive of a challenge.
knyt
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I think this is getting way to complicated. I don't think people should be penalised for losing more weight than 2lb a week.
*sigh* let's just keep it at 1 point for each lb (capped at 2 or 3 lb a week) and 1 point for each hour of exercise. I know there'll be a level of unfairness in what ever we choose but it's also less complicated this way and our goal isn't winning, it's to become slimmer/toned/healthy anyway.
*sigh* let's just keep it at 1 point for each lb (capped at 2 or 3 lb a week) and 1 point for each hour of exercise. I know there'll be a level of unfairness in what ever we choose but it's also less complicated this way and our goal isn't winning, it's to become slimmer/toned/healthy anyway.
moodringgrl
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Ok maybe Im doing something wrong. I like to come to this site to help keep me motivated, but after so many people downing weight loss when its more than 2LBS a week its starting to make me a little down. This morning I woke up and was down another 1.2LBS from yesterday. So I'm going to post what I ate yesterday and my exercise so I can get some feedback. If my menu is way off just let me know please.
Thursdays menu:
Breakfast: 2 large eggs scrambled, 1 ounce cheddar cheese, 2 slices of turkey bacon, 1 cup sectioned oranges. Calories: 418
Snack: 1 cup asparagus grilled plain. Calories: 27
Lunch: Grilled chicken salad w/ ranch dressing. Calories: 489
Dinner: 2 grilled skinless chicken breast, 1/2 cup cauliflower, side salad w/ ranch dressing. Calories:404
Snack: 1/2 cucumber, 1 cup of green grapes. Calories: 68
I drink nothing but a gallon of water a day as well.
I measure my food and I came up with my total calories for the day as : 1406
Exercise for Thursday is as followed: 1 mile walk on treadmill 10% incline speed: 3.5, 2 mile walk with the dogs, 20 minutes doing the 30 day shred, and I went swimming for about an hour.
Please if you find issues with my eating can the feedback be in a helpful kind manor not just downing my life style change. My fitday account has my average weight loss as about 4.18 LBS a week and I pretty much eat the same way everyday as listed above.
Thursdays menu:
Breakfast: 2 large eggs scrambled, 1 ounce cheddar cheese, 2 slices of turkey bacon, 1 cup sectioned oranges. Calories: 418
Snack: 1 cup asparagus grilled plain. Calories: 27
Lunch: Grilled chicken salad w/ ranch dressing. Calories: 489
Dinner: 2 grilled skinless chicken breast, 1/2 cup cauliflower, side salad w/ ranch dressing. Calories:404
Snack: 1/2 cucumber, 1 cup of green grapes. Calories: 68
I drink nothing but a gallon of water a day as well.
I measure my food and I came up with my total calories for the day as : 1406
Exercise for Thursday is as followed: 1 mile walk on treadmill 10% incline speed: 3.5, 2 mile walk with the dogs, 20 minutes doing the 30 day shred, and I went swimming for about an hour.
Please if you find issues with my eating can the feedback be in a helpful kind manor not just downing my life style change. My fitday account has my average weight loss as about 4.18 LBS a week and I pretty much eat the same way everyday as listed above.
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moodringgrl
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KNYT Thanks....I know I shouldn't let it get to me but after I hear how unhealthy weightloss like mine is over and over it starts to bother me. Maybe some people just lose weight at different rates. I give my menu for the week to my doctor and he didn't say anything about it being off. I was told I was pretty much in the stages of pre-diabetes in May now doc says all my test and blood works are almost at normal healthy ranges. I by no means starve myself, thats the reason I got fat, I'm an overeater. I eat til im satisfied now, but I have cut out almost all sugars and I try to limit my carbs as much as possible. I went from no exercise to finding ways to add more in everything I do. Like when I go to the mall I will park in the very back and enter on the side thats the furthest from where I need to go. I no longer use elevators I take the stairs, and thats alot since I work in a huge hospital. So pretty much imagine 8-10 hours of stairs (with ankle weights) 5 days a week on top of my regular exercise. Then after all that to hear some would prefer you a Penalty for losing weight that I bust my butt to lose kind of sucks. I'm ok with the only having 1-2 lbs counts even if you lose more but I don't think my hard work and all day dedication should be put with the word penalty.
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Holly88
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Moodringgirl, I'm really sorry if the idea offended you. I never meant for that, I was just trying to help with the process of deciding how to do things and wanted to incorporate everyone's ideas in my suggestion.
I had meant that if people go over their own individual goal for weight loss they could be given a penalty, so if you lose 4 lbs a week you could make your goal 24lbs in the six weeks and you probably wouldn't be given a penalty anyway?!
I guess maybe it is getting way too complicated haha.
You should be proud of yourself for all your hard work and the loss that you get as a result! I'm sorry if I detracted from that.
I had meant that if people go over their own individual goal for weight loss they could be given a penalty, so if you lose 4 lbs a week you could make your goal 24lbs in the six weeks and you probably wouldn't be given a penalty anyway?!
I guess maybe it is getting way too complicated haha.
You should be proud of yourself for all your hard work and the loss that you get as a result! I'm sorry if I detracted from that.
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