health with children nowadays...

We didn't have child molesters on every street corner
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I'm older than any of you, there was a children's book written in the late 60s called Betsy and Bill and the Nice Bad Man and it really drove home the topic of "stranger danger" to kids... It had to that I actually can recall the book some 35 years later... There have always been predators - it didn't stop parents from letting the kids out of their line of site... it wasn't an obsessive fear like it is today... we were aware but it didn't stop us from going out to play.

I grew up in a neighborhood where most of the mom's worked... We didn't have babysitters or nannies -- those were for the rich folks - the kids hung out together all we had to do was call our parents at work when we got home from school, do our homework, go play, then start dinner...
 
maleficent said:
to completely veer off topic for a moment -

I'm older than any of you, there was a children's book written in the late 60s called Betsy and Bill and the Nice Bad Man and it really drove home the topic of "stranger danger" to kids... It had to that I actually can recall the book some 35 years later... There have always been predators - it didn't stop parents from letting the kids out of their line of site... it wasn't an obsessive fear like it is today... we were aware but it didn't stop us from going out to play.

I grew up in a neighborhood where most of the mom's worked... We didn't have babysitters or nannies -- those were for the rich folks - the kids hung out together all we had to do was call our parents at work when we got home from school, do our homework, go play, then start dinner...
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Yea, but it was like that even when I was a child Mal. I never spent a moment inside. None of the kids in my neighborhood did. I didn't know anything about child molesters.

They may have been there, you're right. But the media and society didn't put the spotlight on them as they do today.

And IMO, it does seem to be a more common occurence.
 
society relies on computers and technology, when i was a kid i would go outside and play with neighbors and ride my bike over to my friends house to play, but now kids will just IM their friends and play with them on xbox live

the things that are making our lives "easier" are killing us
 
JeremyRice said:
society relies on computers and technology, when i was a kid i would go outside and play with neighbors and ride my bike over to my friends house to play, but now kids will just IM their friends and play with them on xbox live

the things that are making our lives "easier" are killing us
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People have a choice though and something above the physical possessions are what govern are decisions IMO.
 
Governor Crist signed a bill a couple of months ago requiring schools to have a mandatory 1/2 hour of PE every day.

However, chances are, it won't start this year because the schools have to "work out a schedule" which is beyond my comprehension - wouldn't it be easier to increase school time a half hour a day???. Don't quote me on that, but this is what I hear from one of the parents on the pta at my son's school. So we're probably looking at recess every few days for another year.

I hated pe myself, I do think, however the kids need a break while at school to run around and scream and holler and burn off energy.

Don't even get me started on the FCAT!

While I agree that alot of nutrition has to do with parents (considering that my son was the only kid in his class sent to school with a healthy snack - but mom! everyone else brings candy and cake!) the school is horrific about what they encourage kids to eat.

For instance. The 4th grade had a "store" where they could shop with class money. What was the store stocked with? Candy and sugary juice boxes and soda. I can't be there to look over my kid's shoulder, I can only hope he'll make the right decision.

What do you think he chose? I allow my son sugar only on certain days of the year: Christmas, Thanksgiving, Easter and birthdays. He gets a diet soda maybe once a week.

Before FCAT - the standardized test we are so blessed with. Would you like to know what his young and skinny teacher brought for the kids to eat before the test? Cupcakes, donuts, sugar laden morsels of cr@p. Soda. I suppose she thought it was brain food.

We put money in my son's account for lunch. He's supposed to get one lunch. He gets 2. I have harped on my school and harped on my school and told them he is only allowed *one* lunch. Do they listen? No. How tough is it to put a limit on his account? We finally quit putting money in his account, period, and he takes his lunch now.

We had to stop taking him to school early (I believe in getting places early) and get him to school just in time to keep him out of the cafeteria for breakfast. It seems they serve chicken nuggets because some kids don't/won't eat a regular breakfast. He was pigging out on chicken nuggets till I caught him. There was a time when parents could go and sit with the kids at breakfast, but that was stopped. I suspect because a health concious parent pitched a fit at some of the choices offered.

If you have a kid who plays in sports, or is in scouting, and parents bring a snack. Have you noticed what those parents bring? Pure junk. How many kids are going to turn it down? Last year in scouts the parents discussed the snacks, and most of us chose to bring healthier stuff, but not everyone. I hope snacks are done away with this year.

That's my experience. I do my best to feed my kid as healthy as I can, but I can't be on him every minute. I try to give him the right tools, but it doesn't mean he'll listen.
 
I admire shaq trying to get gym back into the florida education system just for a hour a day but where I lived California and Michigan middle school to high school we always had gym a hour a day no matter what. Now lets get to the problem..... Elementry school only has gym class a half hour once a week now by the time we hit middle school were already to far gone and just to lazy to excercise. So Elementry needs to have gym class a hour a day because kids are more impressionable so if they have to deal with it through elementry school they will be accustomed to it and enjoy it more because they are in better shape. Also the school lunch system is a scam a dollar a meal hell I could tell the milk was frozen like a ice cube it wasnt even drinkable it was disgusting and if you dont get free or reduced its $3 dollars a meal. So most teens end up eating there lunch at the snack carts where they have such healthy foods and drinks as Soda, Cookies, Candy, Chips etc etc. Why do we eat at the snack tray simply because it taste better if the school lunchs were worth a damn maybe we would eat them. Now guess what they have done they have took the snack carts away from schools in california so guess what all that there is to eat is the cruddy school lunch and I fully understand it is to make us more healthy but it is hurting are education because most teens dont eat because its crap. So along with taking the un healthy snack carts out they should have put some GOOD HEALTHY food. Not ice cube milk ketchup spaghetti oh and my favirote a rock hard bread stick. Another thing about gym is if they actually wnat us to put are hole heart into it and try they need to actually do something that appeals to us football basketball etc notop hoolahoop run for a hour pilates or dance. When we do things we dont like we dont put full effort into it so in a sense taht hour of gym is worthless.

Sorry for being all over the place but it was a bit of a rant. :)
 
maleficent said:
I'm older than any of you, there was a children's book written in the late 60s called Betsy and Bill and the Nice Bad Man and it really drove home the topic of "stranger danger" to kids...
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Ahem, If profiles can be believed, than so far the Geeser award goes to me...huzzah!

I remember the book, as kids we were all marched down to the police station to see a film that followed the book. I remember it like it was yesterday, scared me sleepless.

David C
 
When I see threads sucha s this, all I can say is that I am happy I homeschool my children. :)
 
Lol wow you shouldent your depriving your children of the most important thing they learn in school how to interact with other people.
 
Feuer said:
When I see threads sucha s this, all I can say is that I am happy I homeschool my children. :)
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Do you teach your children how to eat properly from home?

I'm not sure I agree that homeschooling is the way to go. But different strokes for different folks, right?
 
Steve said:
Do you teach your children how to eat properly from home?

I'm not sure I agree that homeschooling is the way to go. But different strokes for different folks, right?
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Yes, they learn to eat properly. They also learn to make good food choices for themself. They help in meal preparation and shopping, and occasionally in meal planning. My children are all extremely healthy and physically fit. My oldest is a competitive gymnast. My middle child loves playing baseball and doing Yoga with me. The baby just likes getting into everything. The children are also very intelligent and above grade level in their academic subjects. Our homeschooling contains not just the basics, but also includes art, foreign language, needle crafts, music, etc. They do spend time outside of the home with other children playing and in activities.

I believe that homeschooling is best because education can be tailor made to fit each child's unique style of learning. Additonally, the child is free to advance in areas which they excel, and can have extra help and time in those which they struggle. There is also more time and resources available to provide a good education in areas beyond the core subjects. A variety of educational philosophies can be incorporated together in order to provide the best education to each child individually. Some areas have excellent homeschool networks where families can meet together.
 
That's great that you get them involved in the nutritional side of things.

And with regards to homeschooling.... there are positives and negatives to both sides of the coin IMO.

But it sounds like their doing great.
 
Steve said:
Do you teach your children how to eat properly from home?

I'm not sure I agree that homeschooling is the way to go. But different strokes for different folks, right?
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the food at school is good? or the kids? the fights, sex, drugs, and lack of teacher care in some parts..

if a parent is ready willing and able, teach your own kid, but still allow them out to have friends. but i think schools in america now are a joke, kids are having sex in middle school, DURING CLASS in bathrooms and such, and drinking alcohol and trying to be an adult way to early.

keep on rockin momma! show your kids a good path and get them into a good college!
 
Steve said:
And with regards to homeschooling.... there are positives and negatives to both sides of the coin IMO.
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This is very true.

Feuer maybe you can explain something to me because it is my largest sticking point on home schooling. Now I know a lot of teachers in the public schools are horrible but they are usually trained in a specific subject or two and then teach the children.... how can one adult be so knowledgable in all the subjects to teach everything to a child. I also don't understand how one fully learns without interacting with other students. In education there's informal (interaction with students and teachers) and formal (books, movies, articles, ect.). I am just curious.

In sixth grade for about 7 months I wasn't allowed in school (no I didn't get suspended) and had a tutor ... who was a teacher...come see me everyday and that was my schooling. I just did not get the same thing out of it.
 
It's obvious that a child is going to have a totally different experience from one opposed to the other.

I don't think anyone can say without a doubt one is right and one is wrong.

I can completely understand how a parent would want to keep their child out of the public school system today.

But the problems in public schools are not derived from the schools themselves. They're derived from the home, and their up-bringings.

And IMO, I don't think hiding from these problems is the answer. Reason being, the problems are always going to be there. Young or not. We adapt to stresses, physically and emotionally. Society and our interactions, in a way, places a stress on each of us.

Hiding from this stress leaves no room for adaptation.

I'm just thinking outloud. I really don't have a strong opinion here. I just like to hear myself speak, LOL.

My best friend growing up went to school with me from preschool to 5th grade. His parents pulled him and his sis out once middle school started. It devestated the children and I must say, Billy and Amy have never been the same again. They seem withdrawn. But they are great people.
 
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I'm not putting down homeschooling because I can see why a parent would want to do that.

I just remember those months at home...and it just wasn't the same.
 
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