Please do.
Sport eating late at night
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Please do.
Agreed.
Exactly.
phate89 - you said you want to add muscle mass. Just as an example, there is a reference in NROL that insinuates most people that train and want to gain muscle mass actually take in fewer calories than they really need. They cite a study which suggests you need anywhere from 25 - 30 calories per pound of bodyweight if you want to ensure optimal ( and I know you embrace doing things in an ' optimal ' way - i.e your consumption pre and post workout shakes is evidence of that
) mass gains and 20 calories per pound of bodyweight just to hold on to the muscle you have .Now, I don't know if 20, 25, 30 calories per pound of bodyweight is valid or not - but i think it does speak to the need of getting adequate calories per day to fuel muscle growth. And as Derwyddon mentioned " Its easier and more feasible [ to get protein ] when you're eating little meals all day " - which also applies to eating enough calories overall IMO.
- How many calories do you consume a day ?
- Does it change significantly if it is a workout day vs a non-workout day ?
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No big reason, just what I've been used to.
And wouldn't the body still have enough energy to repair and build muscle throughout your sleep and the next day even if you ate most of the protein in one meal?
Actually, if you spread out the protein over 6 meals a day - it's dead simple to do.
Why ? Carbs / glycogen are the primary fuel used for your weight workouts.
You consume 120 grams of protein now - how much do you weigh ?
Then I will try to spread out my protein some more.
And I said I should reduce protein because if i increase protein and keep carb intake the same calorie intake will rise -- > fat gains.
if I decrease carbs, the amount of fruits/bread I am eating, I can increase my protein and keep my calorie intake generally the same.
I weigh 149lbs, and I think .8grams of protein is enough to build muscle.
Heh thats true. I take more pleasure in eating breads..mmm
Agreed.
Exactly.
phate89 - you said you want to add muscle mass. Just as an example, there is a reference in NROL that insinuates most people that train and want to gain muscle mass actually take in fewer calories than they really need. They cite a study which suggests you need anywhere from 25 - 30 calories per pound of bodyweight if you want to ensure optimal ( and I know you embrace doing things in an ' optimal ' way - i.e your consumption pre and post workout shakes is evidence of that
Now, I don't know if 20, 25, 30 calories per pound of bodyweight is valid or not - but i think it does speak to the need of getting adequate calories per day to fuel muscle growth. And as Derwyddon mentioned " Its easier and more feasible [ to get protein ] when you're eating little meals all day " - which also applies to eating enough calories overall IMO.
- How many calories do you consume a day ?
- Does it change significantly if it is a workout day vs a non-workout day ?
25-30 calories per pound of body weight is freaking insanely high.
149 X 25 = 3725 calories a day
THAT IS WAY TOO HIGH ! and my FAT gains will QUADRApLE
I know my body and how much to feed it. I have a hella slow metabolism, and I've been seeing gains feeding it 2000-2100 calories a day
Sometimes I would zig-zag into a deficit to off throw fat gains
Eating this much I've already gained 4-5lb's in almost less than a month at a constant rate.
And after reading this..im going to try and spread out my protein intake..just went downstairs and made a tuna sandwich with 1/2 can tuna and 2 ww bread 27grams of already
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Yep. I used to be over weight
So, in other words, it isn't that you think the consequences your infrequent meal pattern is better or no different than having more frequent meals ...you simply don't feel like having more frequent meals. You're used to your current meal pattern.
Got it.
Guess that depends on how often, how much, what times and what nutrients you eat.
So, it's 10 past 10 right now where I am and I've been meaning to make this pea soup with ham, think I should do it? I have to be up at 6:30 tomorrow so I plan on going to sleep at about midnight. PBJ sandwich is my only other option but I'm pretty sure I'll still be hungry afterwards. All I had to eat today was a small breakfast and a couple of homemade sandwiches I had for lunch.
Small breakfast...200cals?
2 sandwiches... 300 cals each?
You are NOT eating enough, you shouldnt even worry about eating late at night.
I'm surprised this thread is still going on.
Last night I consumed about 700 calories to meet my daily requirement. Between 10:30 and 11:00 I had homemade hot chocolate, yogurt, a banana and some oil.
Sometimes I just CANNOT get enough calories during the day. I have to extend the eating inot the night. There is no way I could EVER get enough calories before 8:00 PM. I have to eat lots of tiny meals throughout the day and into the night.
Last night I consumed about 700 calories to meet my daily requirement. Between 10:30 and 11:00 I had homemade hot chocolate, yogurt, a banana and some oil.
Sometimes I just CANNOT get enough calories during the day. I have to extend the eating inot the night. There is no way I could EVER get enough calories before 8:00 PM. I have to eat lots of tiny meals throughout the day and into the night.
There is no problem. I do eat all day. "All day" includes evening. It can't make any more sense than that. I eat all day constantly and still do not meet the requirement by 8:00 pm. There's no crime in that is there? Or should I stuff myself and make myself sick so I can consume 3000+ calories in a 10 hour period?
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Just keep on the track of your multiple meals per day and stay focused on your calorie target spice. What you are doing is fine. Its probably going to take some time for your body to adjust to the "new" calorie intake we discussed, and you will likewise, mentally adjust, and given this, things will improve on this side of the fence I am speaking.........
The Spicy Health Hen can never commit a crime.......
The Spicy Health Hen can never commit a crime.......
Hehe! thanks!
The poor Spicy Health Hen was afraid she'd end up in "jail". She's glad to hear that she didn't commit a crime.
10 hour period?
I am often awake from 6:30 a.m to 11:00 p.m ( or more ) - that's at least 16 hours to fit in 6-7 meals / snacks a day - or in your case, 3,000 calories a day.
Are you able to eat something every 2.5 - 3.0 hours a day in order to spread out those 3,000 daily calories ?
I'm awake form about 8:00 in the morning to 11:30 at night. The 8 hour period I was referring to was directed at the people who seem to believe that you must not eat after some crazy hour like 5:00 or 6:00 PM.
LET ME CLEAR THIS UP
I do eat at night. That was the whole point of that statement. I was not asking for any help or advice. I eat until 11:00 PM. I thought I said that.
My point was that it is not very easy to eat a full day's calories in such a short period for the sake of not eating at night. Because this is not possible I DO eat at night.
I DO NOT agree with not eating at night. And I would never try to limit my eating at night. I think it is a ridiculous idea to stop eating at 6:00 PM or even 8:00 PM. It is important to feed you body and maintain a constant flow of calories. Going several hours without food is a terrible idea.
I hope this cleared things up. AGAIN I am not trying to fit in all of my food before 8:00. I would NEVER do something like that.
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what i really mean to say was "that's enough about me, let's talk about you. so, what do you think about me." "that's not what you are supposed to think,,, let me tell you what i think you should think, since you are trying ot think about me, and i think i have the best thinking about me"
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suffering from board addiction today.
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wheeew!!!
suffering from board addiction today.
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Thanks for clearing that up.
Obviously, taking in 3,000 calories from 8:00 - 11:30 is not an issue for you then.