Weight-Loss Does Anyone Focus on the Mental?

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Toddless

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I listened to a webinar (web seminar) this weekend which brought the mental aspect of eating into focus. While we can all agree that everything boils down to CIvCO, I don't think the approach "Eat less, Move more" is the right way to go. In terms of mentality, I think there's one big question; "Why do I overeat?" Solve that, I feel, and you'll be on your way to a healthier lifestyle.

Has anyone successfully changed their habits after answering this question? How did you approach answering it; I know sometimes it can be caused by very traumatic and debilitating events. Could you give advice to others on how they can approach an answer, or what they can do to better understand why they might be overeating?
 
I know I just eat when I'm bored.... also I know foods like chocolate etc actually make you feel better after eating them (momentarily)

If I'm busy I tend to forget I need to eat at all, but it's when I'm sitting in front of my desk doing nothing is when I feel like munching.

I haven't entirely figured out how to fix that yet. :)

I think for me and over eating it's the sheer feeling of that "full" thing that I crave. After all of this time I am comforted by that full feeling after eating a bacon cheeseburger. Sometimes after eating a plate of veggies even though my head is telling me I've done well my stomach is craving more. It's a strange thing that after years of eating fattening crap that "overfull bloated" feeling is what I've come to like.

I've had the hardest time telling my mind that the "too full" feeling is bad and the light, satisifed feeling is all I need.

Besides, I also over eat when the food tastes really good!! My mouth kind of takes over my brain..

Does that make sense? :)
 
It's funny to, I'll find myself munching on a peice of chocolate when I'm not even hungry or craving it at all.....

I've grabbed candy just because it was there even though when I thought about it, the candy didn't even sound good.

It's so weird how an overweight person's brain works....
 
I like to eat when I'm Happy
I like to eat when I'm sad
But when I see the weight I've gained it makes me oh so mad
And then I just feel bad

Really I'm more of a happy eater. When I feel happy I want to celebrate with food. My favorite thing is ice cream When I was little I would walk to my Grandfathers house and we would work out in the yard and then go in and have some ice cream. Spending time with my Grandfather was some of the best times in my life. Often when I eat ice cream I think of him. i could eat ice cream everyday!
 
LOL nice poem Lyn. I think personally I was (am still maybe?) addicted to food. I love crunchy, savory and gooey textures. Like Jenn stated, I also loved that full, satisfied feeling you get after terrorizing your local Golden Corral (lol corral, how fitting). Like any bad habit, I think time and willpower will help me overcome it. I don't have cravings as nearly as much as I used to, so things are certainly getting better.
 
I also loved that full, satisfied feeling you get after terrorizing your local Golden Corral (lol corral, how fitting).

Man, I used to be able to inflict some real damage on a buffet. My favorite was Shoney's breakfast buffet, or a good Chinese buffet. Looking back I bet I was downing 2000-3000 calories at a time.

I always just liked food, it was not a mental thing for me. Purely physical. I still like food, but I also understand the effect of overeating better. For me the mental part was educating myself.
 
Yes! I loved Shoneys breakfast buffet my dad used to take us all the time during the weekends when we were kids and it was so awesome. Pity there's none in Texas. You're right though, I really wished I had educated myself the first time I tried to lose weight. [cliche] Knowledge really is power [/cliche].
 
I've had the hardest time telling my mind that the "too full" feeling is bad and the light, satisifed feeling is all I need.

That's definitely something that I can resonate with. I usually eat some form of a salad for lunch, and while it actually is delicious and I get full from it, it's just not the same "full" that I get from a good burger and fries. According to Michael Pollan, our body craves salt, fat, and sweet, the three things that are rare in nature but nourish our bodies. We've evolved to seek salty, sweet, fatty foods, but now that they're so abundant, we've got to turn off our instincts!

Something that has really helped me stop overeating was to eat off of smaller plates. I know it shows up a lot in weight loss tips, but once I actually ate off of bread plates instead of dinner plates, the serving sizes cut down a bunch.
 
Anyone watch the Penn and Teller show Bulls*$t?

In the one on the obesity "epidemic" they talk about how eating, as Todless mentioned, is controlled by millions of years of evolution, and we can't really expect to be able to fight that, all the time, every time. We crave fat and sugar because it kept our ancestors alive. Feeling full feels good because our ancestors were never guaranteed another meal. They compare it to sex, where we've developed birth control so that we don't have to fight the urge.

I'm not saying that we should just give up eating right because it's too hard, but just realized the evolutionary forces we are up against.
 
I'm not saying that we should just give up eating right because it's too hard, but just realize the evolutionary forces we are up against.

Love it. When we can accept the fact that we will have to eat salt, sweet, and fat, we can more easily moderate our intake. It's trying to cut it out of every G*ddamn thing we eat (milk) that makes us crave it and binge on it later.
 
After trying so hard to simply count calories and exercise and continuing to fail, I've finally started to address the mental aspect of weight loss. I always said I was an emotional eater, but I've finally started realising that that affects me so much whether I'm attempting to eat healthy or not. In the past week or so, I've started identifying the difference between emotional hunger and real physical hunger, and also eating at a quiet table - both of these methods, I've found, are very useful. I've cut down on what I eat, and I've also been eating less junk. I found out also that certain preservatives and chemicals in processed foods (and fake sugar itself) turn on parts of your brain that tell you that you're hungry, that you want a particular food item, and the feel good receptors - which in turn can make you want certain foods for no physical reason other than your brain is basically addicted.

I've also started reading Dr Phil's 'The ultimate weight solution', which so far is pretty good, but I've only just gotten to the real fleshy parts of it.
 
Yes, I think the mental challenge is a HUGE part of weight loss.
I honest wish I knew more.

Yeah, I don't know how much there is written on the subject, but it's definitely not the popular route to take for the media. They just like to quote low-cal this and low-fat that. It's just overlooking the bigger issues.
 
Guys

I am trained in hypnosis, EFT, Huna and I am a Master Practitioner in Neuro-Linguistic-Programming (essentially - how the brain works) and I use these tools to help people with many things, including weight-loss.
I did not come on here to promote this - merely to help people. Plus, rules of the site ...and I want to respect the site and the users. Nevertheless, since you have brought up the subject of the mental side of things and cottoned on to the fact that it is important, but is not promoted by the media. I want to make an offer to you to answer any questions you may have.
Again, I repeat that I am not allowed to promote myself - however, if I can help you answer questions you may have...
Do you have specific questions?
 
I know that a lot of my weight problems are due to emotional eating. It's always been easier to try to stuff the feelings down with food than to deal with them head on. It was and is a vicious cycle where I'd eat to make myself feel better (or in some cases to not feel pain/sadness/frustration/etc) then realize what I've done which would just make me feel worse.

I've actually tried hypnosis for weight loss and the hypnotist actually told me that I have too many subconscious issues that I need to deal with before a hypnosis implied weight related thing would work. She said it manifested itself as a metaphysical mass that made me feel like I was drowning while under hypnosis. Anyways...

I've been learning to deal with my emotional issues through various methods. Mainly telling myself that it's ok to feel. It's ok to cry sometimes. Ok to scream and be mad. Ok to be frustrated. I don't always have to be happy for the benefit of the people around me. I don't need to stuff the feelings down with food. Just repeating that to myself has made a big difference.

There's a book that I've been using called 100 days of weight loss that has helped me approach my mental weight loss issues that have stopped me from being successful in the past.
 
Hi Todless

Who did that belief evolve from?

Interesting thing beliefs. You can’t touch one or see one, you cannot put a belief in a wheelbarrow...and yet people will fight to hold onto their beliefs.
We used to believe that no human being could run a four minute mile. We used to believe that the earth was flat, now we believe that it is round (ish) and spinning on its axis whilst hurtling through space (even though our senses tell us otherwise). People used to believe that they could not travel in the new steam trains because if a human being travelled at more than 30 miles per hour then they would not be able to breathe!

Our beliefs drive our behaviours.
Henry Ford once famously said “whether you think you can or you think you can’t.....either way you are right”
A belief is just a feeling of certainty that something is true. We create a belief by accepting something may be true, then looking for evidence to support our fledgling belief. Ironically, whatever we go looking for...we tend to find.

If our desire for these things were evolutionary, then we would all desire them...yet we don’t all desire them, certainly not to extremes.

To get back to your question. I would teach people to shift their desires and focus. Give people the power to understand how to manage their emotions and cravings. You will notice that in many of the posts above people are not talking about eating because they are hungry. There is something else going on that is causing them to turn to food.

We have been conditioned to turn to food to pick us up when we feel sad or lonely and we have also been conditioned to turn to food as a treat when we have done well! A vicious circle. If we feel empty inside then food is never going to make us feel “full”.

Let me give you one technique to try out. A freebie if you will.
Try removing your sense of sight when you eat. Ideally blindfold yourself (perhaps not in a restaurant). If not possible, then simply close your eyes and then eat.
Ever heard the expression “your eyes are bigger than your stomach”? If you remove this sense and just eat then you will find you feel “full” much quicker and you will find that you tend to leave more on your plate.

When you do this, switch off the television and stop all conversation. Once you remove these distractions and just take the time to enjoy your food.... you will actually hear your body's signal that you are “full”. Most people, especially those struggling with their weight, just keep eating right past the full signals because they can see that there is still food on their plate.
I suggest that you do this at least four times (you have to re-train your body to some extent and create a new habit).
I know it is odd...but just do it and let me know how you get on. You never know, it may even evolve into a sweet new tool in your toolbox.

I have helped many people to successfully lose weight (with no “diets” involved). This is just one tool in hundreds and a good place to start.
I look forward to hearing your results. I wish you every success in your aim to reach your ideal weight, whatever that is for you.
 
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actually, it isn't so much distraction (that is part of it) but we tend to eat too fast. It takes about 15 minutes for the body's signal of full to hit. Many of your tricks is this except done in odd ways.

you are going to eat slower blindfolded.


As far as no distractions, you can still have these things, but instead always put down your food or fork. The extra time will help force you to slow down.
 
Jericho

Yes, putting down your knife and fork between every mouthful is good advice.

Other than that I am not sure about the point of your post. You seem to want to disagree with anything that does not agree with your own beliefs. I am not convinced that is helpful as a moderator.
 
you are going to eat slower blindfolded.

Maybe for some people but I'm not so sure a blindfold would slow ME down, lmao. Let me at the food!!!

But seriously, I'm not sure I could eat with a blindfold on anyway. I have to see my food for some reason. We usually turn down lights for a movie at my house but sometimes if we're having dinner during neither my DH or I will turn the light down till after.
 
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