diet help

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For the past 6 years I've been trying to lose fat, changing my diet and exercise plans dozens of times and never really making much progress. I'm sure that I do enough exercise so my diet is the only thing I can think of being wrong. If anyone can take a look and give some help it'd definatly be appreciated. My diet goes like this:
6:15-oatmeal(regular) and egg beaters.
9:00-banana
11-12:00-lunch(on weight lifting days its a half of a sweet potato, soy meat of some kind and egg beaters, any other day its soy meat egg beaters and some mixed vegetables.)
1-2:00-apple
4:00-dinner(egg beaters, soy meat and vegetables)

That's what I eat everyday, with the addition of a protein shake on weight training days, and i only drink water and the occasional sugar free instant coffee. I do snack at random times in the day, usually on things like blueberries and strawberries, sometimes low fat yogurt and natural peanut butter. None of my meals ever exceeds 300 calories and i avoid eating out, but if i must i eat a salad from subway with just spinach, banana peppers green peppers and lettuce with yellow mustard as a dressing.
If anyone can see what I'm doing wrong please tell me cause trying to figure it out myself is clearly not working.
 
Underestimating the calories you eat each day. Honestly? It is the only way. Don't feel bad cause we all do. The part about snacking during the day..you might think all you eat is 300 calories but I doubt that is the reality. Did you add the calories of the shake? the peanut butter? The yogurt (low fat does not equal low calories). We underestimate just what enters our mouth.

Answer? Write down faithfully what you eat for a week. Everything and if it has a label, write the calories down.
 
The yogurt has 100 calories for a cup but i only eat 1/4 of a cup at a time, the protein shake is just 120 because i only use water and protein powder and nothing else in it and the peanut butter has about 168 for 2 tbsp which is more then i eat in a day. I dont usually write down what i eat in a day but i did go back and look at the labels for everything i ate yesterday and it totalled out about 1300. Can it be im not eating enough calories? im 6 feet tall and weigh about 170 and exercise 6 days a week almost without fail.
 
It definitely sounds like you aren't eating enough. 1200 is the minimum for a woman to eat per day. 1300 for a 6 foot male is not enough. What I don't understand is the amount of Egg Beaters you eat. Why?
 
Math is math. It is scientificly impossible for you to eat 1300 a day, do the exercises you do, be a male and be that tall and not lose weight. One of the factors is off. I don't have your age but I'm guessing you need a minimum of 1600 just to maintain and do nothing. The math right there doesn't match.


There is a factor that is either wrong or missing.
 
What Jericho said.

There is no way in the world tha tyou can have eaten consistenly 1300 calories a day for 6 years and not lost weight. There is something here that isn't adding up.
 
Jericho said:
Math is math. It is scientificly impossible for you to eat 1300 a day, do the exercises you do, be a male and be that tall and not lose weight. One of the factors is off. I don't have your age but I'm guessing you need a minimum of 1600 just to maintain and do nothing. The math right there doesn't match.


There is a factor that is either wrong or missing.
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The OP is asking how to lose FAT, not weight. You can cry "math is math" but that's not the entirety of the equation. There's a person's body to factor in and no two bodies work the same. The chemicals in the Egg Beaters he's constantly eating could be working against him. If losing weight was as simple as calories in verses calories out everyone would be thin and able to lose weight. But every BODY is different and simple "math" doesn't work for everyone.
 
The OP is asking how to lose FAT, not weight. You can cry "math is math" but that's not the entirety of the equation. There's a person's body to factor in and no two bodies work the same. The chemicals in the Egg Beaters he's constantly eating could be working against him. If losing weight was as simple as calories in verses calories out everyone would be thin and able to lose weight. But every BODY is different and simple "math" doesn't work for everyone.
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Every body is different..to a point. See..it IS as simple as Calories in vs Calories out. Seriously. It is. I can eat 4000 calories of celery..I'll gain weight if it is more than I burn during a day. I don't care if he is eating a 100% diet of Egg Beaters, if the amount of calories taken in is more than what he burns, he will gain.

you know how you lose fat? You eat less than you burn. Period.

The fact remains, something in the story is wrong.

you know why everyone isn't thin? cause they don't pay attention to what they eat. They don't exercise to burn more calories.
 
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Jericho said:
Every body is different..to a point. See..it IS as simple as Calories in vs Calories out. Seriously. It is. I can eat 4000 calories of celery..I'll gain weight if it is more than I burn during a day. I don't care if he is eating a 100% diet of Egg Beaters, if the amount of calories taken in is more than what he burns, he will gain.

you know how you lose fat? You eat less than you burn. Period.

The fact remains, something in the story is wrong.

you know why everyone isn't thin? cause they don't pay attention to what they eat. They down exercise to burn more calories.
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:iagree:

Bottom line ... what Jericho said goes.
 
So Jericho is the only voice here? What he says goes? Is he the owner of the site? It says he's only even been a member here since December.

Sorry, but every BODY is not alike and not everyone loses with that mathematical equation. Even doctors don't believe that there is only one simple formula for losing weight so how can one person who is only attempting to lose weight but is far from goal be the sole person we are supposed to listen to on this board?

I repeat, if calories in verses calories burned ALWAYS equaled weight loss then we'd all be skinny.
 
What I'm saying is science. Your body needs X calories a day. It gets it one of two ways. You eat or your body breaks down parts of itself for the energy. Your body wants to break down food than itself. If you eat over X calories, the body stores that extra energy. If you eat under X, your body breaks down fat and muscle to get that energy.

Your body has no other ways to get the energy.

I'm looking at the facts he has given. There is NO WAY he isn't losing weight if the facts he gave is correct. Sorry, but there is a point you have to be frank and honest. You keep saying if it was calories in vs calories out that we would all be skinny. You are forgetting alot of factors, the top being the fact that we are not honest about what we eat. We THINK we don't eat anywhere the calories we do. Hell I thought I ate little and look where it got me. The equation isn't flawed, the facts being put into the equation is..There is something wrong with his information.

Facts are facts and science is science.
 
So Jericho is the only voice here? What he says goes? Is he the owner of the site? It says he's only even been a member here since December.
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Oh lord. Here we go again with someone who wants to make everything an emotional rant.

No, Jericho isn't the owner and he's not the only voice here. But what he wrote was accurate, and so I quoted and agreed with him. Get over it.

I repeat, if calories in verses calories burned ALWAYS equaled weight loss then we'd all be skinny.
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Hardly . Most people eat FAR more than they think they're eating. Our society (esp. Americans) have no idea what a proper serving size is and vastly underestimate the amount of food they consume.
 
Jerico is certainly not the only voice here and, yes, he is very strident. Reminds me of an ex-smoker railing against the tobacco industry.

I repeat, if calories in verses calories burned ALWAYS equaled weight loss then we'd all be skinny.
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Unless the person has a serious medical condition which prevents them from metabolizing food then there is simply no way that someone who eats significantly more than they burn will stay skinny. It's sad but it just does not happen.
 
Cute kitty.

Not even doctors agree with calories in verses calories out. There's too many other factors. Why do people plateau? Why do people religiously following diets and trainers still gain or not lose? The body is a living organism and it does what it wants. Science be damned, it is just not as simple as calories in/calories out. Just because you believe it doesn't mean it's 100% fact for all people.

Is that the "rule" of this site? That the only way to lose is "simple math" of calories in v calories out? Just want to know because if that's how this forum is run, it's obviously got serious issues.
 
Personally, from the OP's comments it seems like he's got the weight off but he still has body fat. Like that kid that's obsessed with looking like Taylor Lautner. Six foot 170 pounds is actually an ideal weight. Really sounds like he's talking body fat aka cellulite and that is not lost via "scientific" numbers.
 
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Cute kitty.

Not even doctors agree with calories in verses calories out. There's too many other factors. Why do people plateau? Why do people religiously following diets and trainers still gain or not lose? The body is a living organism and it does what it wants. Science be damned, it is just not as simple as calories in/calories out. Just because you believe it doesn't mean it's 100% fact for all people.
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During a calorie deficit our body still requires the same amount of energy thus, it starts using up energy stores to make up for this calorie deficit. However, as our body inevitably uses up extra proteins for energy AND to maintain normal protein synthesis, we end up with a net loss of total protein. This results in a gradual loss of lean muscle, and this is the start of a lowered metabolism.

In fact, protein (muscle) loss may go unnoticed when looking in the mirror because the body will take it from other, less priority areas and not just from our skeletal muscles. The stomach is a classic area where protein is broken down for use, as there's less need for a large stomach capacity because we have lowered our food intake.



Mayo Clinic. Doctors. QUOTE: Your weight is a balancing act, and calories are part of that equation. Fad diets may promise you that counting carbs or eating a mountain of grapefruit will make the pounds drop off. But when it comes to weight loss, it's calories that count. Weight loss comes down to burning more calories that you take in. You can do that by reducing extra calories from food and beverages and increasing calories burned through physical activity.



Fact is fact and science is science. Nothing you have said changes that based on what the OP said, he can't NOT lose weight. Just on what they said. There is a fact that is wrong or a factor not stated (medical)
 
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Kellyana said:
Personally, from the OP's comments it seems like he's got the weight off but he still has body fat. Like that kid that's obsessed with looking like Taylor Lautner. Six foot 170 pounds is actually an ideal weight. Really sounds like he's talking body fat aka cellulite and that is not lost via "scientific" numbers.
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So it is lost by unscientific numbers. I would like to know how you say body fat comes off if he doesn't eat less than he burns. Please back up with case studies or science please.
 
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So it is lost by unscientific numbers. I would like to know how you say body fat comes off if he doesn't eat less than he burns. Please back up with case studies or science please.
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Cellulite doesn't go away. Middle age women who lose their weight but not their belly fat are an excellent example. Even experts tell you that cellulite just doesn't "go away" and will always be part of their make up. It's like the thought process that you can "spot reduce" certain areas of your body. You can't. The only way to spot reduce is through surgery.

You seem to be an example of "those who can, do. Those who can't, teach." When your "scientific methods" work for you and you're at goal, then talk to me.

The question remains. Is the OP talking about a big fat belly he wants to tone or is he talking about cellulite that needs to be worked on. Diet will not eliminate cellulite.
 
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