Chillen with the TheGooch: Mr. Lean and the Calorie Busten Furnace!

OK, the first couple days of dropping my carbs I lost a little water weight, but since then I have gained that back plus 1 lb....all while eating the amount of calories I would normally cut at with higher carb diet.

So, a weird idea popped into my head. What if instead of actually having a super high metabolism I actually have some type of malabsorption issue with carbohydrates, so only a portion of the calories I eat from carbs are processed by my body...is this possible?

This would explain a few things:
1. My apparent abnormally high metabolism
2. The fact that I'm gaining weight on this diet (I've replaced some of my carbs with proteins and fats and my body is getting the full force of those calories)
3. The fact that on a higher carb diet I was in the bathroom sometimes more that 4 times a day ie things were going right through me

If this is true, on a low carb diet I would need fewer calories (maybe this is wishful thinking because I'm sick to my stomach half the time from force feeding myself.

Is this really possible?


UPDATE:
Just googled carbohydrate malabsorption symptoms:

1. painful bloating and distension- check My stomach kills me from this all the time...and my waist measurement can change by a couple inches throughout the day
2. fatigue-check. I usually manage to get fired up for workouts, but I'm wiped the rest of the day. I could go to sleep right now
3. excessive flatulence- check-just ask my poor wife
4. trouble gaining weight or having to eat a large amount of calories to gain weight-check

The only symptom I don't have is diarrhea

Gooch:

This is possible. Additionally, it is possible your body has defects occurring during the digestion and absorption "other" nutrients, other than carbohydrates. You could have an infection in your digestive track, that leaves no symptoms, until you manipulate your diet in some fashion, revealing problems such as fatigue, sleepiness, etc.

IMO, go to your Doctor, or a Doctor that understands this biological problem, and get yourself self examined and/or tested. Logically, (for example) if a person cannot process and absorb (for example--Lactose), and thus the phrase "Lactose Intolerant", there is a "potential" possibility that another person can have complications in processing other nutrients such as types of proteins, carbohydrates, and some fats (not to leave out other forms of sugars). What is "interesting" is that as I studied some of this, it seems common for some to mask (unknowingly) the problem, with eating more calories. You "may" have been masking a problem for sometime, and not known it. I don't know for sure; however, this possibility still exists.

Read this Article:



One (of many), parts that caught my eye was this part:


Weight loss and fatigue

* Weight loss is common and may be pronounced; however, patients may compensate by increasing their caloric consumption, masking weight loss from malabsorption.

* The chance of weight loss increases in diffuse diseases involving the intestine, such as celiac disease and Whipple disease.

I knew from the beginning that your metabolism was going to be a problem. This is one reason, I suggested lowering the carbohydrates a small margin to see what response you get, and keep the calorie deficit (you had been running), while eating at above average calorie consumption (as compared to the average). We have to take diets and attempt to shape them to the particulars of the person, and then correspond a training program that corresponds well.

In your case, with your complicated metabolism (at least with what we know now), it is best to get yourself thoroughly examined by the correct medical professional, and see what is "really" going on.

I sincerely, hope there is nothing seriously wrong. One thing is for certain, by lowering your carbohydrates, you may just may have revealed a problem you.....needed to see, in order to deal with with it properly (if a problem exists in the first place).

Go see a Doctor, Gooch, to be sure.

It would be inappropriate for me to advise you further on your diet, until you see a medical professional to ensure you are not having some digestive malabsorption problems.

Let me know when you make arrangements and how they turn out.


Best wishes

Chillen
 
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I'm going to check out my options and maybe where I can get some tests done. Given that I used to drink like 1/2 a gallon of milk a day I'm wondering if that's it. Of course I used to eat a lot of grain products that also had a lot of gluten. I read that there is a simple "breath" test they can do.

I'll get this back on track.....
I'd love to eat a "normal" amount of calories.

I doubt it's an infection or something like that because I've eaten massive amounts like this all my life...we'll see

I just remembered I read somewhere that a common symptom of lactose intolerance is chronic sinus problems. I've dealt with that all my life too.
 
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I'm going to check out my options and maybe where I can get some tests done. Given that I used to drink like 1/2 a gallon of milk a day I'm wondering if that's it. Of course I used to eat a lot of grain products that also had a lot of gluten. I read that there is a simple "breath" test they can do.

I'll get this back on track.....
I'd love to eat a "normal" amount of calories.

I doubt it's an infection or something like that because I've eaten massive amounts like this all my life...we'll see

The best thing to do, is to outline your diet history to the "correct professional", and inform the person on your response to lowering carbohydrates (-125, from 400 net, or to 275). Personally, I would want a more thorough examination than a mere breath test. You know there are 3 phrases in the digestion, right? Likewise, a mere breath test, while being able to hit on some problems its intended to test for, may not expose some other problems it does not test for. Outline your diet and history thoroughly, and see what the "correct" Doctor recommends. Its far better to be safe then sorry.

Personally, I cannot swallow advising you on your diet, with this illuminating over head--this, IMO, would be incompetent, and not in your best interest at this time. If you get tested (correctly), and there is no problem, then we ROCK. If there is a problem, then we work with the "correct" professional's recommendations, and go from there.

If you just merely, return to your former diet, or reduce calories (increasing the deficit from an already abnormally high amount of calories), while leaving your macro-nutrients (average, per se), this isn't solving the the "potential" issue you may have.

We knock down stones, one at a time. And, this is a major one, IMO, to deal with.

When are you making arrangements to take care of this?


Best regards,

Chillen
 
Can you explain a little about your split and how and why you do it like this please??? Im confused by the switching of the days. For example do you start the next monday with upper or do u take monday off.

"Current Schedule:

Monday: Upper/Core
Tuesday: Lower
Wednesday: Rest (Maintenance)
Thursday: Rest (Maintenance)
Friday: Lower (after rest, lower/upper switch)
Saturday: Upper/Core
Sunday: Rest (Maintenance)

Repeat, only difference is the day changes."
 
Can you explain a little about your split and how and why you do it like this please??? Im confused by the switching of the days. For example do you start the next monday with upper or do u take monday off.

"Current Schedule:

Monday: Upper/Core
Tuesday: Lower
Wednesday: Rest (Maintenance)
Thursday: Rest (Maintenance)
Friday: Lower (after rest, lower/upper switch)
Saturday: Upper/Core
Sunday: Rest (Maintenance)

Repeat, only difference is the day changes."

What I originally posted:

Monday: Upper/Core
Tuesday: Lower
Wednesday: Rest (Maintenance)
Thursday: Rest (Maintenance)
Friday: Lower (after rest, lower/upper switch)
Saturday: Upper/Core
Sunday: Rest (Maintenance)

The next week:

Monday: Rest (Maintenance)
Tuesday: Upper/Core (with Station Base)
Wednesday: Lower (with Station Base Training)
Thursday: Rest (Maintenance)
Friday: Rest (Maintenance)
Saturday: Lower (with Station Base Training)
Sunday: Upper/Core (with Station Training)

And, the following:

Monday: Rest (Maintenance)
Tuesday: Rest (Maintenance)
Wednesday: Upper/Core
Thursday: Lower
Friday: Rest (Maintenance)
Saturday:Rest (Maintenance)
Sunday: Lower

And, the following:

Monday: Upper/Core (with Station Training, every other week)
Tuesday: Rest (Maintenance)
Wednesday: Rest (Maintenance)
Thursday: Upper/Core (with Station Training, every other week)
Friday: Lower (with Station Training)
Saturday: Rest (Maintenance)
Sunday: Rest (Maintenance)

I do it this way, primarily due to the response I get, and the fact it rotates rest periods/maintenance days. Likewise Calorie Ranges also fluctuate per day and are never the same (as determined "specifically" by what I do). I am in the business of building muscle not a lot of fat during a slow bulk. I respond very well to high energy--calorie compensating, and rotating carbohydrate intake (carb cycling if-you-will).

Additionally, when the time is right in the rotation (and goal position), I will use the Station Training, as Glucose Stores depleting workouts (and correspond the diet), when leaning down; making the transition rather smooth and silky-like, with no major changes (some, but not a lot) to the workout rotation.

If you have additional questions, let me know.


Best wishes,

Chillen
 
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Thanks Chillen.

No questions as of right now. Not that i have time anyway with working out, work and shovelling snow. :p
 
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