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Thanks Chillen. Hey, last night I noticed a slight vertical recession running right down the center of my abs. I've had the sides for quite some time, but now a vertical is coming in and I can sorta see the very top horizontal trying to bud. My point; some 6-pack action is starting to develop & emerge!

Thus far today things are good. Kept breakfast to some crackers, natural peanut butter, a kiwi, some orange-juice with some Green Vibrance added. Snacked a bit on the ingredients as I made another batch of my whole-wheat heavy-vegetable pasta salad. Probably took in about 450 calories in all.

A friend called to go biking today around 2pm, he's calling it a "recovery" ride....which means he's fronting an excuse for why he's going to take it easy & go slow...but make no mistake, it's always about who's in front. The other friend is a guy who I thoroughly cleaned last week. The 3rd guy is a mystery...but either day, it's another opportunity to burn another 1,500+ calories, be outdoors and enjoy some friends! I'll be sure to hydrate well, bring some road-snacks, etc.
 
Breakfast, lunch, dinner....about 2,200 calories in all.

Mountain bike riding, crazy-high output (trying to chase a triathlete who is younger, faster and in better shape)...saw HR at 187, got scared! Not to mention out of breath!

HR-monitor read 1,470 calories after the ride. Legs feel burnt!

Calories in: 2,200

Exercise 1,470
BMR 2,140 (2,340 less 200 for time spent during exercise)

Total deficit: 1,410 calories
 
Took Sunday off entirely, just rested, ate some food, relaxed.....

Okay, interesting news....

I saw my nutritionist today...hadn't seen him in just over 3 months!!! His initial observation was that I looked leaner & lighter, he guessed I'd lost about 5 pounds. He always does his pre-lim observation. He said:

My arms looked larger AND more defined & cut
My stomach looked leaner and I had some ab's starting to show
My quads looked ridiculously huge

I got on the scale, both of us expecting a modest loss, maybe 3-7 pounds.
I had gained nearly 5 pounds!!!!!:eek::(:mad::mad:

Then he took out the body-fat calipers and we found that I'd lost just a wee bit of body-fat, and that he was pinching me at 12.1%....but let us remember that he's just pinching the subcutaneous fat under the skin, he's only pinching me in 3 areas and the calipers (at least his) tend to measure lower then most means.

Yes, my knee injury set me back on my exercise, but I had compensated with lowering my calories and doing more swimming & upper-body weight-training. But still, after 3 months I was EXTREMELY disappointed with a gain in overall weight.

Of course, my nutritionist tried to assure me that I've not gained fat and it must be a combination of muscle, water and what-not....but it wasn't fat AND the fact that I looked leaner, lighter, had better definition and larger arms means I should be celebrating...but I just don't feel it.

Not to worry, I'm not going to quit....but seriously, I'm at 14-16 hours per week of exercise and I'm eating about 2,150 calories per day maximum and maintaining a solid deficit. I just don't get it. FWIW, my nutritionist (who I'm gonnna just start calling Alan and presume you guys know this)....Alan said of ALL his clients, I am by far the most challenging one ever, bar none!

The only thing I can being to work with is that most people just lose fat and do some exercise...whereas I've transformed myself into an athlete. Even now I'm back to doing 2 spin-classes back to back AND swimming a mile...so I crank 3+ hours and keep going. I move heavy weights and...well, I'm just not the fat guy gone skinny, I'm the fat guy gone (can I say this modestly?) buff. So muscle weighs more then fat, blah blah blah. And in the end, my arms, chest, abs and face all look leaner....so I suppose we have to ignore the
DAMN 5 POUND GAIN
and resovlve ourselves to the bigger picture of how I look & feel.

Dammit. I'm now at 233 5' 8"

The other thing we've done is arranged for me to have a DEXA-scan, it is by far the most accurate body-composition analysis short of disection available. Btw, the water tank has all sorts of confounding issues....bone-density, etc...it's hardly as accurate as people think. The DEXA should tell us what's going on, and we found a local place that has this $16k machine and they do it for just $50. Wish I had done it 1 year ago and then every 3 months, but at least we'll have some point to start with.

Overall, Alan feels I have (at most) another 10-15 pounds of fat to lose before I'm "there"....a bit on the chest, a bit around the love-handles and some on my chin/face....aside from that my arms, legs, back and all are firm muscle. Apparently my initial goal of getting below 200 is just not practical.

Alan wants me to take an entire week off from ALL training, he says athletes are supposed to stop for a whole week every 10-12 weeks and that it'll somehow help re-initiate my thyroid, metabolism, etc.

Frustrated, I endeavor to persevere. I think I'll bug Wrangell to see how I can celebrate my weight GAIN and still see the good side of this....
 
Food:

Apple for breakfast 110 calories
fiber bar 120 calories

Spicy Tuna salad 570 calories

Pasta salad thingy 550 calories
prunes, nuts & chocolate snack 270 calories

Egg,chicken,tuna salad with 2 slices wheat 780 calories
protein shake 380 calories


9am Spinning class
some core work
5:30pm Spinning class
30 minutes swimming

Calories in: 2,780
Exercise: 2,010
BMR: 2090 (2.5 hour adjusted down)

Deficit: 1,320
 
I've been posting in the weight-loss section for a few days now, back to Journal.

I've really put the microscope to my diet and I'm doing a re-boot of my whole eating habits. Time to crunch the consumption and really inventory the calories. Yesterday was 2 spin-classes & swim. Today was weights & elliptical.

Anyways, I'm finally posting some pics. As you can well imagine, I'm not really proud or too happy with these...mostly cause they don't look like centerfold material ;) But I suppose this is a good point so use for comparison down the line. Nobody starts out perfect and so here we go.

I had to use the camera myself and each time the flash went-off the mirror was full of light...so I had to take-off the flash and the result is some pretty grainy stuff. Still, you can see what's up. One of my biggest issues is the right peck, there's some sagging moob action and I hate it. Sometimes it's not there, sometimes it's really there. I've been assured over time it'll suck-in and lay down. It was much worse some 40 pounds ago!

I took one pic in my wrestling sinlet, the black color and white side-stripes really lets you see the contour of my waist. I like working-out in my own gym wearing this...it's very comfortable, cool and really lets me see my body perfectly: I like to see what I'm waging war on. shorts & t-shirts just cover stuff up and get water-heavy when I sweat. Again; ONLY in my own gym! :D
Without further delay....

Oh...the one with the blatant flash (4th)...well, if you click on that the flash really shows the cut on the sides of my abs. You wouldn't see that detail w/o the flash. The pic of my back is pretty bad too, the right side shows some width, the left just shows nothing. Enough excuses....
 

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You look like a strong brute of a man, you will definately have an awesome physique to look forward to now you have your diet going. I honestly think you should get a second opinion on those calliper readings.

Good luck man you look great be proud, cool poses too :D
 
you have alot of nice exercise equipment. the lavender skates definately rule the roost at Venice--hehehehehe

Glad you finally posted some pics and got real.

from personal experience, the sooner your let your gut go and relax into yourself, the better you will feel. The sucking up all the time disrupts digestion, breathing, and everything. It is a bi-product of over-emphasis on personal appearance. Which is a major bi-product of So.Cal (lol- personal hang up of mine)

Let it go man, let it go. Relax, breath, and "BE." Once you let go, the weight will begin to fall off.

in yer corner,
FF
 
WTF were you complaining about? Looks like you are getting pretty good results. Plus you look like your built like a friggin tank. If you were under 200 lbs you wouldn't look right. I wouldn't get so hung up on that number if I were you.
 
BSL:

IF you do not "pull patiance into your heart" and allow the "past path you have taken" to give you the "wisdom in the present" to reveal your "adapting greatness"-------->I will hide under your bed with a bull horn yelling "ROCK ONS" day in and day out, so you cannot sleep. :)

Feel the THUNDER of your adapting greatness!

You have come so far, and look so good and its what is under the hood that has withstood and said you could.

I have read some of your new threads the last few days: you have all the power, and let the experience of the past (with in fitness) bring out the best of the present, to excel in the future.

Past history is our teacher to the wise.

YOU LOOK GREAT!

KEEP UP THE FANTASTIC WORK, baby! :)



Chillen
 
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Steve, your muscle mass is greater than and your body fat is lower than I thought they were. Nice work.

Richard
 
I honestly think you should get a second opinion on those calliper readings.

Good luck man you look great be proud, cool poses too :D

That's EXACTLY what I've been saying, no way I'm 12% or even close!~ But Alan keeps showing me the digital calipers. I must be the area's he's pinching, and if you ask me, I think it's the affect of loose skin getting collapsed under the pinch of the calipers; THIS IS WHY WE'RE GOING TO DEXA!

you have alot of nice exercise equipment. the lavender skates definately rule the roost at Venice--hehehehehe

Glad you finally posted some pics and got real.

from personal experience, the sooner your let your gut go and relax into yourself, the better you will feel. The sucking up all the time disrupts digestion, breathing, and everything.

in yer corner,
FF

I can't help it....yes; I was totally sucking it in! You should see my before/after pose...I can stick it out and then pull it in, it looks like a before/after pic from 50 pounds! I suppose everyone can do it, but I think my faked before/after is the best!

You rock FF, love the humor....jealous much of those skates? YES! :D

WTF were you complaining about? Looks like you are getting pretty good results. Plus you look like your built like a friggin tank. If you were under 200 lbs you wouldn't look right. I wouldn't get so hung up on that number if I were you.

Kraken; this is America and it's our God-Given right to complain, b!tch, moan & groan! ....besides, complaining raises HR and that burns more caloires! ;)

Steve,

It actually looks like you're a lot less "chubby" then when you first started showing me photos! Dude, you're doin' alright stop panicking!

I LOVE YOU SARA....some people may think you're an evil b!otch from which there is no escaping the bounds of your relentless HELL, but I think you're awesome! ;)

Steve, your muscle mass is greater than and your body fat is lower than I thought they were. Nice work.

I'm sorry, I couldn't read anything you wrote cause that avatar of yours is just plain scary! ;)



THANK YOU ALL FOR THE KIND WORDS

I actually think those pics make me look heavier then I am, but wtf....this way I'll look better in the pics to come. Thanks to Sara & Wrangell, I'm really putting the intake under the microscope. As Alan says, my body is very resistant to fat-loss....but inevitably I'm at the helm and this chubby b!otch is going Down-Town!!!!!!

Okay, I'm walking out the door with my family to enjoy Yostemite Nat'l park for 4 glorious days....I will be away from the computer so obviously no posting or responding will be possible.

Thank you all again for your support and positive reinforcement. More then you may realize, it really feels like a family here and the support, encouragement and ACCOUNTIBLITY are just outstanding!
 
Just got back from Yosemite....

Beautiful, stunning, awesome, wonderful....and I'm just describing the 3 slices of pepperoni & pineapple pizza I had! :D

The first day was okay, but once I started eating a few fries and soda, it all came back hard & fast! I tried to graze on salads and keep things lean, but the old "Your on vacation, let it go" came into play. Of course, my version of "sin" is a distant cry from what it used to be....but still, it's gotta be a gain.

So...here's the deal. Alan told me to lay-off the exercise for a while and a few people even told me to eat a bit more. Now my body is feeling the calories and not being pounded to perform...so let's hope the metabolism fires-up, I get distant from any concept of "starvation mode" and then I'll hit it again tomorrow and get back into form.

Ya know...it's shocking how eating lots of bad food so quicly leaves you hungry and craving more of it....you can chase that appetite into oblivion and into sizes they don't carry at regular department stores!!!!!! :eek:
 
Okay....

Under the advice of my nutritionist and others, I've laid-off my workouts & dieting for a week (a week as of Saturday). My vacation to Yosemite certainly saw some heavy-calorie days and I've not broken much of a sweat or touched any of my usual 2+ hour workouts lately.

I'm going to re-approach this whole thing with a more careful look at my diet, everything will be under the microscope. I'm also going to maintain a deficit no greater then 20% less my maintainence.

I've also been in touch with a few doctors who work with people who have issues with weight loss & hormones...I'm gonna get some real blood-testing done and just eliminate that as a part of the problem.
 
RealWorkSucks sent me a pm which I responded to with over 3x the 1k-limit, so I put it here:

RWS,

Yes, I did take a week off from both diet & exercise. Last Friday I did my 2 spin classes, but when I came home we left mid-day to go to Yosemite Nat'l park. Since then I've not exercised or really been watching the diet. I ate too much and only went on a few short hikes with the kids. I ate pizza, drank diet soda and had some chocolate: I took in more calories then I burned! To make matters worse, now I've got a cold w/congestion so I'm sick :(

What were the results of my taking a break? I don't know! I only weigh-in when I see my nutritionist, so I haven't been near a scale since. How do I feel? FAT, heavy, sluggish & bloated. From what I gather this rest period won't help me lose weight in and of itself, it'll just "reset" my metabolism & thyroid...tells my body to get out of starvation mode, OR SO THE THEORY GOES.

Greenhorn Gal sent me an email where she said she wasn't losing weight at 1,600 calories per day, but (upon Sara's suggestion) when she went to 1,900 calories per day she began losing weight...and now I have that and that thread where someone else had the same results. So now we can conclude that eating MORE = more fat loss; wonderful! Wonder where Wrangell would weigh-in on this notion.....

What did Sara (Der) tell me? She strongly discouraged me from a keto-based diet. She said I wasn't eating enough and that I had to eat more. She gave me some outlined meal plans which basically had me at 20% less then my maintainence level and she suggested going lower on the cardio so as not to freak-out, over-tax and over-work my system. She's a smart gal.

What have I done with my diet? Since getting home I've not been able to exercise due to the cold...so I decided to just finish-up the week of not exercising, but I may do my spin-classes tomorrow anyways (6 days instead of 7). As for diet, as of yesterday I just kept it really lean. How many calories?..I don't know, but they've all been small healthy meals...I'm just trying to dump this bloated/heavy feeling from eating all that vacation food.

Honestly, I'm still confused. I think I'm gonna start avoiding carbs, BUT I need carbs if I continue with these 3+ hour cardio sessions...which rather means the keto-plan is not going to work if I maintain an "athlete in training" game-plan.

I think & figure I should just stick to a good 20% below maintainance game-plan and only hit carbs (healthy carbs) just before & immediately after exercise...otherwise keep it protein & vege's. I just don't think it's wise to do 14 hours of exercise per week w/o any carbs...my routines just aren't conducive to a keto-plan. Keto might work if I only walked 30 minutes per day, but my workouts tax my body to the tune of 2,000+ calories: yes, I'll burn fat, but I'll also burn-up muscle and go into starvation mode. I think it'd be too tough on my body. I should have done the keto-thing when I stopped excercising for a week, but instead I ate vacation-food.

In all honesty & reality, my body has transformed since a year ago and progress is being made...I'm just psychologically gunning for a flawless model's body and being 43 and having a tough metabolism, it's gonna be a while before I'm there.

Btw, in the past I have done an Atkins-based thing and it was pretty tough for me. If my new plan doesn't work, I'll probably turn to the hardcore keto-thing...but based on what I've read from 2 people and what I've heard...I think I was just in starvation-mode, not getting enough sleep/rest and just freaking my body out. I may have gained 5 pounds, but my abs started showing a vertical definition in the center, my arms got more cut and that scale may say more, but I'm seeing a leaner body in the mirror. F that darn scale!!!!:SaiyanSmilie_anim:
 
Did you get the other body fat test done?

Not yet....been out of town and now just plain super-busy. I'll get the details about the DEXA process and other stuff when I do it. Promise.

Dude...how 'bout those tunes I sent ya? Diggin' any of 'em? :)
 
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