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How the hell could I be looking for attention? According to something I read... It said that for my age, weight, height, I should be eating 1500 calories a day. Then if I wanted to go on a diet I would need to eat 500 less calories.

Anyways, I don't see how im supposed to eat more even though im not hungry. Also the problem I have is usually if I start eating more I just keep eating and eating which ill end up eating like 3000 calories a day, thats why I also don't try to eat any more. Also is it possible to trick your body to thinking its eating a meal when you have half of a power bar?
 
hey, don't let any of those fads get to you. I seen that on MTV's: I want the perfect body. Tricking your body is only hurting it, sometimes you're not hungry but you need a specific amount of calories. There are some wonderful aids on this site with great references to reputable sites. Do some more research, if you get a lot of conflicting information don't follow it.

We're reaching out and telling you 500 calories is definitely not enough, we're not trying to hurt your feelings.
 
JRauck said:
How the hell could I be looking for attention? According to something I read... It said that for my age, weight, height, I should be eating 1500 calories a day. Then if I wanted to go on a diet I would need to eat 500 less calories.
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There is no way that you read you should be eating 1500 calories a day for maintenance. I'm 4'9" and I'm supossed to eat more than that. Maybe you read a suggestion for 1500 a day to lose weight. You don't subtract from that.
 
JRauck said:
How the hell could I be looking for attention? According to something I read... It said that for my age, weight, height, I should be eating 1500 calories a day. Then if I wanted to go on a diet I would need to eat 500 less calories.

Anyways, I don't see how im supposed to eat more even though im not hungry. Also the problem I have is usually if I start eating more I just keep eating and eating which ill end up eating like 3000 calories a day, thats why I also don't try to eat any more. Also is it possible to trick your body to thinking its eating a meal when you have half of a power bar?
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Here is a post I made on another thread:

Cams Habs said:
As long as you are following the guidelines of calories in and calories out, a long with routine exercise and some strength training, you will lose weight. HERE is a link to a BMR calculator. Input your stats. The number that it gives you is the required calories you need to maintain your weight if you stayed in bed all day. But, if you're like 99% of people, you don't stay in bed all day.

Here is the Harris Benedict formula:



Harris Benedict Formula
To determine your total daily calorie needs, multiply your BMR by the appropriate activity factor, as follows:


If you are sedentary (little or no exercise) : Calorie-Calculation = BMR x 1.2
If you are lightly active (light exercise/sports 1-3 days/week) : Calorie-Calculation = BMR x 1.375
If you are moderatetely active (moderate exercise/sports 3-5 days/week) : Calorie-Calculation = BMR x 1.55
If you are very active (hard exercise/sports 6-7 days a week) : Calorie-Calculation = BMR x 1.725
If you are extra active (very hard exercise/sports & physical job or 2x training) : Calorie-Calculation = BMR x 1.9

So basically, take the BMR that you got, and multiply it by the number that BEST REFLECTS your lifestyle. For example, if your BMR was 1700, and you are moderately active, multiply 1700 by 1.55 = 2,635 calories in order to maintain your weight.

A good idea is to subtract 500 calories from your maintience weight. This will give you a weight loss of 1 pound per week. So if that were my, I would eat 2100 calories and lose a pounder a week.
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Your stats:
17 Years old
5'8
150
I don't know if you are male/female. Anyways, here is your BMR:

Female: 1547.2
Male: 1748.5

That is the amount of calories you need to maintain your weight, as I wrote in my post above, if you stayed in bed all day. However, you need to factor in your activity and fitness level.

Even if you are lightly active, this gives you your BMR x 1.375, giving you:

Female: 2127 calories per day.
Male: 2404 calories per day.

This is an example if you were lightly active, I don't know your fitness routine. I urge you to take your BMR and multiply it with your correct fitness level - the result is your magic number needed to maintain your weight. From that number, simply subtract 500, and eat that per day; this will give you a pound of weight loss per week.

I simply cannot stress this enough, you are going to end up with bad consequences if you continue to eat that few of calories. Find your BMR, multiply it by your fitness level modifier above, and subtract 500. Eat that and you will achieve healthy weight loss :D

Good luck!
 
LandonsBaby said:
There is no way that you read you should be eating 1500 calories a day for maintenance. I'm 4'9" and I'm supossed to eat more than that. Maybe you read a suggestion for 1500 a day to lose weight. You don't subtract from that.
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Actually I have weather you want to believe it or not. I think it may have been something from about.com im not sure. If I find it ill post it... It said that you take your weight (150) and multiply it by 10 (150x10 = 1500). Theres like 15 million sites that say different numbers you should go by...
 
Alright cool... also is there any possibility to loose more than 1 pound a week without going overboard I guess like I currently am?
 
I would go with the number 2404 for calories used, eat 500 less a day (around 1900) to loose 1lb a week.
 
JRauck said:
Actually I have weather you want to believe it or not. I think it may have been something from about.com im not sure. If I find it ill post it... It said that you take your weight (150) and multiply it by 10 (150x10 = 1500). Theres like 15 million sites that say different numbers you should go by...
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That is just too general - finding your BMR and multiplying it by the correct number related to your fitness is much, much more accurate :)

Use that formula I gave you, guaranteed it will work, so many people can vouch for it, and I'm one of them, I have lost 40 pounds eating over 2000 a day when I started.
 
Cams Habs said:
That is just too general - finding your BMR and multiplying it by the correct number related to your fitness is much, much more accurate :)

Use that formula I gave you, guaranteed it will work, so many people can vouch for it, and I'm one of them, I have lost 40 pounds eating over 2000 a day when I started.
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Yes I definately will go by what you told me... it will probably take me a few days to get some more foods and such. I have lost 45 pounds but I had much more than 1000 a day, I just burned it off by walking. I did this 600 thing since I haven't been getting as much exercise and such.
 
Anyone who counts every calorie they consume must have a whole lot more time and patience than me.

I've lost an average of around 2lb a week and I haven't a clue how many calories I'm eating. All I know is that I was previously eating too many so now I'm eating less especially anything high in fat or sugar.

Keeping weight off needs a permanent change and for me that isn't going to be checking a calculator before every meal for the rest of my life. If I lose too much I'll eat more and if I start to gain I'll eat less. I don't want worrying about weight to be a lifetime hobby. :)
 
Ned said:
Anyone who counts every calorie they consume must have a whole lot more time and patience than me.
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I dunno about where you come from, but the law says it has to have the energy on the back of the label. Either Kjoules or Kcal. Its not that hard to read the label and do basic 6yo math.

Some people just 'know' whats good for them, some people eat what they 'think' is good for them but dont actually have a clue - this is when learning the calorie content is good (lets just say I got some bad wakeup calls early on!)
 
Ned said:
Anyone who counts every calorie they consume must have a whole lot more time and patience than me.

I've lost an average of around 2lb a week and I haven't a clue how many calories I'm eating. All I know is that I was previously eating too many so now I'm eating less especially anything high in fat or sugar.

Keeping weight off needs a permanent change and for me that isn't going to be checking a calculator before every meal for the rest of my life. If I lose too much I'll eat more and if I start to gain I'll eat less. I don't want worrying about weight to be a lifetime hobby. :)
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Couple points:

-That approach may work for some people but for a lot of us, we need to make sure we are keeping things accurate. Those same people might have trouble with the amount they eat, or in other words justifying eating too much. I think calorie counting is very important when you start out, but if just simply eating less and healthier works for you, and you lose weight, then who the hell am I, go with the flow :D

-I'm not a robot when it comes to food, too. I don't plan on eating 1800 calories every day until my goal weight, then eating 2500 to maintain it every day for the rest of my life. That isn't my idea of a fun/interesting diet. I mix it up all the time and keep myself guessing, but as long as I am controlling my calories throughout the week, it works for me... everyone deserves a pizza once in a while :piggy:
 
I plan all my meals aside from cheat meals or whatever you want to call them so it's easy for me to track my calories.
 
wishes said:
I dunno about where you come from, but the law says it has to have the energy on the back of the label. Either Kjoules or Kcal. Its not that hard to read the label and do basic 6yo math.

Some people just 'know' whats good for them, some people eat what they 'think' is good for them but dont actually have a clue - this is when learning the calorie content is good (lets just say I got some bad wakeup calls early on!)
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All the food you eat in restaurants has labels on it? Not here they don't. Don't you ever eat at friends? Does everything you eat come from packets?

Do you alway eat the whole pack or do you weigh it out too? And you're really going to do that for the rest of your life? If that's the way it needs to be it's no wonder so many people slide right back to where they were.

The packets tell me how many calories in 100gm or "a portion", not how much I've eaten. Yes, I know the amount of calories food contains, but no, I don't measure everything before I eat it to know exactly how many calories I've eaten.

Eating well involves a whole lot more than just counting calories. Just as important as calories I've some idea of the nutrients foods contain and those to avoid to control cholesterol levels and keep salt intake low. Most of our fruit and vegetables we grow ourselves which comes without the insecticides and sprays.

If you are fine with measuring out everything you eat, writing down, and adding up the calories for your entire life while avoiding eating at anywhere but your own home from labelled packets then there's no problem but if you'd like to stop doing that some day you might just have a problem.
 
So, suppose Dr. Peter's hadn't told us in her diet book back in 1917 that: "Hereafter you are going to eat 100 calories of bread, not a slice of bread." and started this whole calorie counting thing, how would we be measuring our food intake today?
 
Cams Habs said:
... everyone deserves a pizza once in a while :piggy:
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You'd have to pay me good money to eat a pizza but would be right with you on the principle. :)

Eating by numbers is no way to live the rest of your life. At some point you have to train yourself to rely on your own judgement or you'll be "a dieter" for ever.

And if you're wondering, my weight was fine till after an injury and zoom, there I was 231 lb with a BMI borderline obese. :(
 
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Doc Bunkum said:
So, suppose Dr. Peter's hadn't told us in her diet book back in 1917 that: "Hereafter you are going to eat 100 calories of bread, not a slice of bread." and started this whole calorie counting thing, how would we be measuring our food intake today?
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Assuming no-one else told us in their diet book after 1917 I'd guess just as we did before, by what we need and what our grannies tell us. Some of the longest lived peoples on the planet don't know what a calorie is. ;)
 
Ned said:
All the food you eat in restaurants has labels on it? Not here they don't. Don't you ever eat at friends? Does everything you eat come from packets?

Do you alway eat the whole pack or do you weigh it out too? And you're really going to do that for the rest of your life? If that's the way it needs to be it's no wonder so many people slide right back to where they were.

The packets tell me how many calories in 100gm or "a portion", not how much I've eaten. Yes, I know the amount of calories food contains, but no, I don't measure everything before I eat it to know exactly how many calories I've eaten.

Eating well involves a whole lot more than just counting calories. Just as important as calories I've some idea of the nutrients foods contain and those to avoid to control cholesterol levels and keep salt intake low. Most of our fruit and vegetables we grow ourselves which comes without the insecticides and sprays.

If you are fine with measuring out everything you eat, writing down, and adding up the calories for your entire life while avoiding eating at anywhere but your own home from labelled packets then there's no problem but if you'd like to stop doing that some day you might just have a problem.
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Well, obviously one will not be able to accurately measure every time, but it is very important to at least estimate it (calories). I'm not trying to pick a fight or anything, but it sounds like you are promoting the idea "counting calories is foolish", and "it's not way to live your life." I don't live my life around counting calories, but counting calories are a part of my life - saying to people "you shouldn't be doing that, it's a waste of time" is kind of promoting the wrong thinking.

This brings into play the fact that EVERYONE is different. The very strong majority of people choose to count calories, which isn't as nearly as difficult as you have made it sound, simply so they can accurately monitor their food intake.

But guess what? That's not the correct way.

The ONLY correct way is what works for you. I have full faith and I am happy to see you getting very close to your goals simply but reducing what you eat and eating healthier foods without counting calories. However, that simply will not work for me, and won't work for many others who try it - I need to at least have SOME method of tracking my food intake (and believe you me, I am definitely not a meticulous counter!)

So again, if someone wants to try to simply cut back on unhealthy foods and eat healthier without a means of tracking it by journal/calorie count/etc, then go for it! If it works, no one on the planet earth deserves to tell you it's wrong. If you need to count calories, then do it!
 
I understand what your saying ned... I have lost about 45 pounds the way your talking about. I just started counting calories since I haven't been able to workout and such as much. When I get to the weight/waist size I am happy with I am going to go back to eating what I like just not as much fast food etc...

And like Cams is saying... don't tell people that its foolish to count calories, because there is a lot more people im sure that need to count calories to watch what they eat. Even though you didnt say that, thats what it sound like you are saying.
 
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I'm sure you'll be successful JR long-term.

All this dieting is totally new to me, never needed to diet before in my whole life, so I may know less than anyone.

But when I asked around it just amazed me how many told me they had been on many diets before, often lost weight, but it usually eventually all ground to a halt at some point or other and then ended in failure.

All of them followed "diet plans" that for one reason or another they got bored with. Some had been to some sort of classes such as Weight Watchers or Rosemary Connelly. When they stopped the classes the weight went back on. All are franchises making money and the more often their customers fail and come back the more money they make. It's a huge industry that wouldn't survive if they didn't make people fail or become forever dependent on their services.

Worse still, they too often make dieting sound like rocket science and the idea that you need to weigh, record and count every calorie must encourage that view.

I've heard it said that "Dieting makes you fat" which surely can't be true but following rules that are so difficult to follow forever possibly does.

It really isn't that complicated surely? Sure, people need to know what food contains and which could make them fat. They also need to know which are the "good fats" and the cholesterol building "bad fats" because being skinny yet eating bad food isn't good for anyone either.

But I can't see it's helpful to encourage the idea that it's so difficult and complicated. It really isn't.

I've got back down to a reasonable weight in about 3 and a half months without any hassle or tears. I've just cut out the foods that are obviously high in calories and reduced a bit overall. No pain, no drama. I know what's fattening and can see with my eyes what's too much without weighing it.

With so many people going on "diets" only to fail there must be something amiss and a better way. Let's keep it as simple as it really is.
 
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